Does it bother you that...

[Damask]

Does it bother anyone that in the cinematic trailer the warrior priest get annihilated by a chosen?

One of my friends just watched the video and exclaimed 'Oooh that guy got owned'.
I sure hope its just for cinematics :S

[Ralzar]

No, it's one of the primary features of the game. "Warrior Priest will get WTFPWN by Chosen."


Sarcasm: it's just one of the many services I offer.

[Arazael]

Now that I think about it, the WP fought well but eventually got owned in the cinema for Mark of Chaos too.. until some wood elf saved him ?? I'm not too sure, I only did the Chaos campaign.

[Thunder_Head]

Now that I think about it, the WP fought well but eventually got owned in the cinema for Mark of Chaos too.. until some wood elf saved him ?? I'm not too sure, I only did the Chaos campaign.

That elf looked evil, man...makes me wonder what Dark Elves look like.

[Tapela]

It had been discussed to death when the final trailer came out. Several ridiculous complaints were brought up, most of the people with these "concerns" (can't believe i'm even referring to cinematic plot as a concern) really did not understand that the priest was wounded in the fight by a damn axe stuck in his side. During the struggle the chosen warrior kicks that axe further into his side. The pain of course stuns him and he loses control of the spell.

Most of the concerns were that a cinematic would sway people into being chaos and cause population problems. Seriously.. they were ridiculous.

[Damask]

It had been discussed to death when the final trailer came out. Several ridiculous complaints were brought up, most of the people with these "concerns" (can't believe i'm even referring to cinematic plot as a concern) really did not understand that the priest was wounded in the fight by a damn axe stuck in his side. During the struggle the chosen warrior kicks that axe further into his side. The pain of course stuns him and he loses control of the spell.

Most of the concerns were that a cinematic would sway people into being chaos and cause population problems. Seriously.. they were ridiculous.

Fair enough, I suppose that battle (The chosen and the WP) was the only one that gave me goosebumps. Doesnt really concern me all that much I suppose. Just hoping we arent like... reliant on other people and what not.

[Radlec]

i belive that the WP could have won... haha nah i dont ^.^
anyways all i have to say is that the movie didnt have enough doomdivers (if you know what i am talking about) the movie hasnt made an impact of what i want to play as. well... when i saw the dwarf slayer i was like WOAH... then i saw the classes for dwarves and became disinterested. long story short.
golbins its what has you for dinner!

[Wyrmtongue]

Reminds me of the Rock Scissors Paper video... Chosen being Rock and Scissors of course :)

[Taurth]

The evidence is right in your face people! Warrior Priests suck! Chosen are overpowered!!

Nerf!!!

[Obey_The_Crab]

In an interview with those who made the trailer, they say that they wanted the Chosen to win because he's the evil one and get this: "WTF-reaction".
It seems that it worked:)

[Evander]

I couldn't care less, the treuth of the story is in fact readable on Mythic's main website here (http://www.warhammeronline.com/english/behindTheScenes/theMakingOf/WARCinematicTrailerPartFour.php)

Following the Elf fight (http://www.warhammeronline.com/english/behindTheScenes/theMakingOf/WARCinematicTrailerPartThree.php), we continue the ongoing Realm vs. Realm® battle with the Empire and Chaos facing off in the final duel. By far the most controversial of the three fights, the ending to the video created a firestorm on the message boards. We knew this would happen as soon as we allowed one side to defeat another. However, it was important that we ended the video with a bang, or in this case, a cracked skull. This is Warhammer after all. Draws are for the weak!

If you are one of the people that read way too much into the ending of the video, let me set the record straight. The video is in no way a reflection of the final game balancing and certainly does not mean Chaos is more powerful than the Empire. It’s a video, we needed an ending, and the Empire drew the short straw. Ok, there was a bit more to it than that.

Meany of my fellow brethren die in our eternal struggle against chaos. And in return we kill meany of their chosen.
I mean, look at the Mark of Chaos Cinema where the Warrior Priest mashes up hordes of chosen Warriors of Khorne with his Sigmar guided swings. Warrior Priests are not martial fighters and it hapens once to often that they loose.

[boiled_owl]

It seemed to me like all the order boys were getting beat around a bit, even before the addition of the Warrior-Priest.

It does make a certain degree of sense though. A hideous armoured mutant abomination vs. a regular human who really doesn't have much beyond his faith. Stands to reason the gigantic freak of nature would win.

Oh well, the WP in the MoC trailer kicked some tail. Besides, I could have sworn I saw him getting back up right at the end... ;)

[Krulltak]

IN the lore, a Chosen would mop the floor with a Warrior Priest, so the cinematic was justified.

But don't worry in won't be like that in game.

In an interview with those who made the trailer, they say that they wanted the Chosen to win because he's the evil one and get this: "WTF-reaction".
It seems that it worked:smile:

Yes, this is the reason for the video being made that way; to show off the true nature of Warhammer.

[Rudger]

Well, I did read somewhere that the ending wasn't the original idea. If I remember correctly, it was first going to be a Witch Hunter against the Chosen. The Hunter would start to get beaten, then some hand gunners would swoop in and shoot the Chaos fool to crap and back again, then a demon would come down and they'd be all "omgwtf, haxxz0r. l0lz."

Then they decided to make it a Warrior Priest, and that he'd win. But eventually it was decided that such a thing was too cliché, so they had the Chosen win.

At least...I think that's what I read...somewhere...before...a while ago.

[Dustandpolos]

I'll be honest, I thought the Chosen winning was the only way it could go.

While in TT a Warrior Priest would slaughter a Chosen Krulltak (Hero class with 50pts magical items and spell-like abilities vs. admittedly uber-elite but still rank and file infantryman anyone?) the point had to be made to those who don't know the lore that this is a dark world. This isn't Warcraft III, where the bad guys turn out to be misunderstood and everyone makes friends to fight demons and undead - there are good(ish) people and just plain evil. Nor is this a fairy story where the good guys have Truth, Justice and the American Way on their side and despite being massively stronger the bad guys can't win against Virtue and Freedom and Friendship and Fluffy Bunnies.

Order look like the standard 'good guys'. Good guys are normally more popular. Destruction needed the win to encourage people into thinking they weren't fighting a losing battle and doomed to lose in the plot, and the result is that, from the limited group commenting on these boards, Chosen are looking very popular. Job's a good'un.

[Wyrmtongue]

We shall do our best to make the events in the trailer a reality, as often as is possible..

[Heno]

The Warrior priest lost because usually in Trailers the good guy comes out victorius. They woanted something different to show the game isn't going to be THAT sort of game. Thier original version had the Chosen losing on the verge of victory by getting shot through the neck froman injured pistolier nearby, but it was too cliche to let the good guys win.

Considering the people who made the trailer didn't even know what the classes for the game were going to be (They say in "The making of.." articles) I wouldn't look into this as class balance. Even if they did, I still wouldn't because that's just stupid.

[Damask]

The Warrior priest lost because usually in Trailers the good guy comes out victorius. They woanted something different to show the game isn't going to be THAT sort of game. Thier original version had the Chosen losing on the verge of victory by getting shot through the neck froman injured pistolier nearby, but it was too cliche to let the good guys win.

Considering the people who made the trailer didn't even know what the classes for the game were going to be (They say in "The making of.." articles) I wouldn't look into this as class balance. Even if they did, I still wouldn't because that's just stupid.

I think I like the explanation here.
Its not a 'cry' post persay.
Just was wondering about the logic behind this part of the movie. All in all, I think they did a fantastic job.

[Heno]

Well I didn't come up with my reason, it's the offical one from the Makers of the Movie.
http://www.warhammeronline.com/english/behindTheScenes/theMakingOf/index.php

Behold!

[litewolf]

As stated before, I think the trailer sends a good message. This isnt pansyland. A war is happening and its real. Heads will be smashed, good guys will lose and you had better bring your A game. Loved it....just watched it again for the 101st time.

[heavyhebrew]

Order will have Cake, Fluffy Bunnies and Care Bears. No 'chosen' will be able to withstand the awesome and overpowering Might that is.......Cake Land!

People who watched that movie and came away from it disturbed have no idea of the Lore behind Warhammer. Eventually the Cake will be eaten, the Bunnies will lose their fluff and the Care Bears will be commodified by merchants and debased by Slaneesh. Order can make it's stand and fight valiantly but Chaos is eternal.

Now excuse me, I have to be burned at the stake.

[Guilliam]

Order will have Cake, Fluffy Bunnies and Care Bears. No 'chosen' will be able to withstand the awesome and overpowering Might that is.......Cake Land!

People who watched that movie and came away from it disturbed have no idea of the Lore behind Warhammer. Eventually the Cake will be eaten, the Bunnies will lose their fluff and the Care Bears will be commodified by merchants and debased by Slaneesh. Order can make it's stand and fight valiantly but Chaos is eternal.

Now excuse me, I have to be burned at the stake.

Burn the witch!

I for one intend on proving the video wrong, but I do so love to play the underdog:cool:

[Steel*Faith]

IN the lore, a Chosen would mop the floor with a Warrior Priest, so the cinematic was justified.

Sorry Luthor Huss is a Warrior Priest and he kicks much Chaos butt. I think it really depends on the power of the Warrior Priest and Chosen we are talking about.

I think the trailer should have ended in a neutral way, like the first two fights. Although the Black Orc kicked the slayers butt the whole time, and it looked like the Witch Elf was going to kill the HE Mage.

[Krulltak]

Sorry Luthor Huss is a Warrior Priest and he kicks much Chaos butt. I think it really depends on the power of the Warrior Priest and Chosen we are talking about.

I think the trailer should have ended in a neutral way, like the first two fights. Although the Black Orc kicked the slayers butt the whole time, and it looked like the Witch Elf was going to kill the HE Mage.


Luthor Huss is not that powerful, just look at his crappy tabletop stats. Sure, he has killed may a Chaos follower, but most Chosen, or of course anything higher, would kick his arse.

[Solidsnake]

what you didnt see was his " I shall not fail" tactic activate. He then came back to life with full health an brought his flaming hammer down on that chaos chosen's head

[Khail]

"I shall not fall"

Anyone thinking that it might be like the self res of the shammy in TGTSNBN?

[Engel]

I was a tad bothered to see the Warrior-Priest get downed, only because I'm partial to them. But, it's good to see the 'good' guys get clobbered once in a while instead of always showing the good guy prevailing once again and once again somehow winning over impossible odds.

The Space Marines in the opening DoW cinematic got chewed to bits (I don't really count it since scores of Astartes zoomed in afterwards). Oh, and the Necrons destroying the Marines in the Dark Crusade cinematic. I don't see alot of human love. >_>

Then again, the manipulator in me cheers for the Chaos but shh.

[Saucon21]

Does it bother anyone that in the cinematic trailer the warrior priest get annihilated by a chosen?

One of my friends just watched the video and exclaimed 'Oooh that guy got owned'.
I sure hope its just for cinematics :S

I laughed at it and said that was a great way to put it. Very rarely does someone who is getting the crap beaten out of them, get up and win the fight in the end.

[Krulltak]

While in TT a Warrior Priest would slaughter a Chosen Krulltak (Hero class with 50pts magical items and spell-like abilities vs. admittedly uber-elite but still rank and file infantryman anyone?)

The TT is not a proper nor accurate representation of the lore.

[Evander]

Luthor Huss is not that powerful, just look at his crappy tabletop stats. Sure, he has killed may a Chaos follower, but most Chosen, or of course anything higher, would kick his arse.

The TT is not a proper nor accurate representation of the lore.

Sometimes Krulltak. I just wonder if your trying to piss people off with your statements and your "I'm always right" additude.

Personaly I think the TT is a very nice representation of the lore. If it wasn't then I wonder why I don't need 700000 human soldiers to kill your "whatever-you-value-more-than-humans" entities.
Faith in Sigmar is the strength Warrior Priests use to even out their martial supreme opponants. Be it Elves or Chaos Chosen.

[Krulltak]

Sometimes Krulltak. I just wonder if your trying to piss people off with your statements and your "I'm always right" additude.

Personaly I think the TT is a very nice representation of the lore. If it wasn't then I wonder why I don't need 700000 human soldiers to kill your "whatever-you-value-more-than-humans" entities.
Faith in Sigmar is the strength Warrior Priests use to even out their martial supreme opponants. Be it Elves or Chaos Chosen.

I never claim "I'm always right", but I would not directly rely on the TT stats for such an argument, as I would not agree they are completly accurate. I mean, HEY, do you REALLY think a Goblin Warboss can kill an orc, even though the lore states that an orc would immediatly take over a goblin tribe?

I can make an acception for Huss I guess, he does seem to be doing a dandy job without having gotten rolled over yet. The Warrior Priests only seem to be truely deadly when they are uber glowy, otherwise they are pretty human.

[Buucho]

No, it's one of the primary features of the game. "Warrior Priest will get WTFPWN by Chosen." ...


I lawled irl. Should be on the back of the game box when it's released. :D:D

[Der_Eisenhans]

I think they knew what they were doing - imho every WP player is itching to kick some Chosen butt now.

That unpleasant "wtf?" feeling in your stomach when you see the trailer for the first time? Yes, it's intended. I guess WP's will be on fire in the first months of WAR at least.

[Gemini]

I loved the end of the cinimatic, not just because of the warrior priest getting smashed. Back when I first saw it and had no afilliation to any race of Warhammer, I absolutely took great joy in the ending. Why? Because of how they did it. Alot of times in cinematics like that, from my experience, the good guy is just about to lose, but managed to make a come back and save the day. People love the underdog and all that. I'm tired of that happening so much, so when I saw the warrior priest grab his tome, his hammer turn molten, and block the chosen's mighty would-be killing blow, part of me just sunk. "How could they do that, the cinematic was sooooo cool up until then, why are they gonna follow the cliche?" They really had me fooled, I thought the warrior priest would keep going. and then BAMN! Knee to the kidney, and hammer to the face, good guy loses.

If they had just had the chosen win without the warrior priests comeback, it wouldn't have been nearly as cool. But "Awwww, they did it again" and then realizing they didn't do it again, just wanted me to think that... it just made it ten times better.