Chaos Chosen

[Maisler]

I'm looked over the Chaos classes and I've seen that Chaos hasn't got a tanker (with shield) so then I assume that the Chosen will be the tank, but I have really been looking forward to play a big 2 hander class (Chaos) like the Dwarf Hammerer. So my queistion is, will the Chaos Chosen be a dps class or a tanking class?

[Kresh]

I'm looked over the Chaos classes and I've seen that Chaos hasn't got a tanker (with shield) so then I assume that the Chosen will be the tank, but I have really been looking forward to play a big 2 hander class (Chaos) like the Dwarf Hammerer. So my queistion is, will the Chaos Chosen be a dps class or a tanking class?

Chosen will be their tanking class
Marauder will be their melee dps
Magus will be their ranged dps
Zealot will be their buff/debuff/healing class it sounds like

[kamikaze]

Theres nothing saying they wont be able to use shields. If you look back at alot of promo video's for most games alot of them involve any class/unit using big weaons or multiple weapons. It tends to make them more exciting.

[Maisler]

So no cool pure 2 hander class like the hammerer for Chaos :( What to do now, I rather go to hell then playing Order

[Steel*Faith]

Orc Choppa (http://www.warhammeronline.com/english/media/podcast/files/WAR-VotM_2007-03_Login.html) is a dps class that specialzies in 2h choppaz or duel wielding choppaz.

Chosen is going to do some nasty damage still, don't be fooled by "tank", the Marauder will do more obviously.

Check out that scary *&$ choppa with the two hander. Tell me that isn't better than a "hamerer" lol. Btw a hamerer is the same as a choppa, specializes in 2h or duel wielding weapons.

[Father Jack]

So no cool pure 2 hander class like the hammerer for Chaos :( What to do now, I rather go to hell then playing Order

Like Black Orc said I think there will be more options and specs for each class than we have seen, they have actually released very little detail about this so far and probably wont as I expect they are trying something very different and don't want to tip thier hand yet.

[Steel*Faith]

Warrior's in WoW weren't known to be a "dps" class like mages, warlocks, or rogues. Guess what warriors could do some mean damage, it wasn't as much as the other dps classes, but it was more than enough to kill players.

WAR will be the same way, "tank" classes aren't going to be pushovers that just "hold aggro". Chosen are going to be in mutilating players, and making them feel some serious pain with some heavy weaponry. Fools will look at "tank" classes and think they aren't a threat to their lives.

[Urnn]

Hand held weapons... I would rather have my hands as the weapons. Being able to mutate your hands into different forms is much cooler than using a normal mace, axe, or sword.

[Steel*Faith]

Hand held weapons... I would rather have my hands as the weapons. Being able to mutate your hands into different forms is much cooler than using a normal mace, axe, or sword.

Hehe, in your opinion.

I'd rather cut you in half with a big choppa, or bash you in your face with a shield.

[Zalkin]

Warrior's in WoW weren't known to be a "dps" class like mages, warlocks, or rogues. Guess what warriors could do some mean damage, it wasn't as much as the other dps classes, but it was more than enough to kill players.

WAR will be the same way

I don't think the classes in warhammer will not have as much variety as the classes wow has.
I don't think a Black Orc will be able to put the tanking part of his class aside and go on killing in pvp with a great choppa. I still think a chosen will be able to wield a two handed sword but it will be for pve purpose

[Disciple]

bottom line is we dont know how the mechanics will work for the classes yet. who knows, with the specialization trees each class gets, chosen could be heavily armored dps as well..perhaps not as good as marauders but more survivable.

we can speculate all we want. but we wont know squat for sure until we start getting to play in beta phase 3 and 4, and not convention alpha builds.

[Sickpup]

what if he could mutate his hand into either pierce/crush/slash. oppps. good idea for a post are all weapons neutral to all armor types. I'de post it but it's prolly buried in the faq's and killrog would appear.

[Steel*Faith]

I don't think the classes in warhammer will not have as much variety as the classes wow has.
I don't think a Black Orc will be able to put the tanking part of his class aside and go on killing in pvp with a great choppa. I still think a chosen will be able to wield a two handed sword but it will be for pve purpose

Every class will be geared to killing people in pvp. Black Orcs "tanking" is not the same as other MMO's, especially when the entire game is centered on pvp mainly. Taunts are going to be -% damage.

Choppa will do fast burst dps. Where a Black Orc is going to do a good damage after he has built up combo points and disabled his opponent, then releasing some big damage attacks or disabling attack.

Even a shaman or zealot is going to do good damage. So it's not like one dps classes are going to do enough damage to kill people.

[Wyrmtongue]

I wonder if anyone really reads up on this stuff before posting anymore? O.o

[Archangel-WHA]

Moving to Chosen Discussion.

I bring you change

[kamikaze]

lol warriors in WoW beta could pump out the highest dps. The fury tree was a little imba back then.

[nWe]

So no cool pure 2 hander class like the hammerer for Chaos :( What to do now, I rather go to hell then playing OrderChosen WILL be able to use both 2hand and 1hand.

[TaurenMoo]

First off... if I ever hear "You need to spec this way just to play" I am gonna maul someone...

That being said a tank is simply someone in heavy armor to take blows and causing agro... blizzard made warrior tanks have static agro abilities that did jack in pvp... thusly no prot warriors in pvp and no non prot warriors MTing. Mythic won't make that mistake and most certainly won't require 100's of hours of raiding to be a good player, Skill makes the player not gear, something blizzard could take a lesson from.

[Axxar]

You need to spec badass to play a Chosen!

[Maus]

damn straight man, quoted and noted =D

[raand]

I will be so happy to never hear the words "sorry we cannot use that spec in our party" and " you will need to respec to join our group or guild"

[Groa]

From what I've seen in beta videos from cons, is that Tactics can be changed anytime you want to out of combat. No respec costs/talking to your trainer. So there'll be no definite specs. You just assign the ones you need based on the situation/your playstyle.

As a Zealot, I'm loving the Black Orc taunt and hope the Chosen will get one with similar effects. Taunt & -50% damage to any target other than the tank for 30 seconds!? Woo!

[raand]

That would be awesome to be able to change "specs" or talents at any time without have to spend money or travel to a trainer.

[Foofmonger]

That would be awesome to be able to change "specs" or talents at any time without have to spend money or travel to a trainer.

That would be nice, as long as it can't be done in combat, can't be macroed, and takes at least 20-30 seconds.

[Revan]

I hope Im not walking into a 'tank' class here,. :P

Thought this was a PvP game :P

[Kroo]

I hope Im not walking into a 'tank' class here,. :P

Thought this was a PvP game :P

sorry to dissapoint you, but chosen will be chaos pvp tank. Still, that doesnt mean he isnt a viable class like in other games where tanks cant do crap when it comes to pvp situations. In WAR tanks will have (as far as I know) relatively high dps, taunts that work in pvp and abilities that make them very dangerous if ignored, like ironbreakers grudge or black orcs large CC arsenal.

Chosens "nasty" ability isnt known yet but it has been speculated to be some sort of aura of fear that gives enemies either nasty debuffs as time goes by and chosen is still alive or slows enemy morale generation among other things. Whatever the ability is, it will most likely be nasty enough to make chosens too dangerous to ignore like tanks are usually ignored in pvp. Also the fact that collision detection is in will make it possible for a tank to bodyblock enemy melee dps before they reach ranged casters and/or healers.

If you prefer to be the top dog when it comes to melee damage, you should look into classes that specialize in melee damage like marauder or choppa in destruction side or witch hunter or hammerer in order side.

[Damienx247]

"A true Chosen smites his foes with lighting bolts from his eyes, and fireballs from his armor plated . He cuts swathes through Imperial armies like Moses parting the sea with the evilest looking greatsword that you had the displeasure of looking upon."

I had to let it out, I play WoW and even I'm tired of the tank class comparisons.

[Arijharn]

In my honest opinion, let the plebians think we can't kill them. So when we walk up to them unopposed (we are not a threat!) and kill them, it'll be even more viscerally satisfying.

In the immortal words of a Protoss zealot:

"I long for combat!"

[reality]

Fresh Meat!! "$&%§/!

[Oasis]

That would be awesome to be able to change "specs" or talents at any time without have to spend money or travel to a trainer.
We have no idea if there even is spec or talent

[XShrike]

I believe there will be.

Last I heard there will be three skill trees. Everyone of the same class with have the same core abilities but, the other two trees will let you specialize your character. I remember reading that they are planing some way to respec.