Butchering will get stabilizers ? ( Waters)

[luciole]

scavenging gets fizzling, mineral glacier purified fortified waters which are a big must in apothecary.

Does butchering get any waters or equivalent stablizers ?

[CapnSquig-WHA]

Butchering gets Zoic Gore, which is a Stabilizer.

[Haevlyn]

The problem is that for mobs you kill 80% of them are humanoid.
In PQs they're humanoid 90% of the time.

This means you can scavenge an aweful lot more water than you will ever get Gore.

Personally I'll be taking scavenging again as I find butchering almost worthless with the amount of creatures vs humanoids killed.

[luciole]

cool - i guess butchering is a "white elephant" i will take up scavenging..

[zerj]

Butchering does get you a few items that don't seem availble from scav.

You get:
Fertilizer for cultivation skill
Ingredients that increase duration of potions. (some types of blood)
Armoring potion mats (from crabs/lizards)
And it seems like more restoration/healing mats than scav.

I went with butchering as it seems everybody else went scavenging. I think overall it may be more useful on a class that uses a lot of healing potions than scav.

[Latreen]

Wolves in Bark Varr, and I assume other places too, drop various levels of zoic gore on a regular basis. They are as good as water for apothecary.

[Aeronor]

They are as good as water for apothecary.

Actually, just yesterday I had a potion fail that was using gores. I replaced the lvl 1 gores with lvl 1 waters, and the recipe worked. I don't know if it was a bug, or if every stabilizer has different strengths, even at the same level requirement. I wish I could remember the recipe so I could reproduce it, but it was very odd.

[Killy]

Actually, just yesterday I had a potion fail that was using gores. I replaced the lvl 1 gores with lvl 1 waters, and the recipe worked. I don't know if it was a bug, or if every stabilizer has different strengths, even at the same level requirement. I wish I could remember the recipe so I could reproduce it, but it was very odd.

I've also noticed gores to be weaker than waters. But I think in return butchering gets better healing ingredients(ticks as opposed to leeches). I took scavenging up to level 90 and switched to butchering today. I got frustrated with all the talisman stuff when all I wanted was healing pots =/...

[Stafford]

But I think you need water all the time - at least once. My brothers profession is scavenging and he is sending me all this cool water via mail. So what I do is take 1 water and use my own stabilizer. In this case I save a lot of those water.

[Magdain]

I've also noticed gores to be weaker than waters. But I think in return butchering gets better healing ingredients(ticks as opposed to leeches). I took scavenging up to level 90 and switched to butchering today. I got frustrated with all the talisman stuff when all I wanted was healing pots =/...

It doesn't seem much better honestly. I'm still starved for stabilizers but instead of talisman mats I'm getting cultivation mats and extra effect apoth ingredients. :|

[Talisac]

The great thing about butchery is the fact that each type of creature drops a specific mat.. so you know exactly what to look for when you're in need. Wolves, for example, are an excellent source of "water" for alchemy, as well as wolf's blood.. which is a great ingredient for restoration potions. Boars tend to give you the blood needed to make effects last longer, while spiders give scales for armor potions and weak poison for toughness potions.

As a chosen I find myself not butchering birds, simply because the accuracy potions (feathers) I make from them are pretty much useless for me. On the flip side though, I'm constantly hunting for wolves for restoration potions and waters.. with the occasional boar to make things last longer.

Oh, and watch your kill collectors. There's quite a few of them who want you to kill animals. Check to see if it's something you would want to farm normally (such as wolves) and if it is, go do a mass materials run. You get a ton of mats you'd normally use as well as a hefty XP bonus when you return to town. :cool:

[forsettii]

I butchered some stuff last night in Empire Chapter 10 I think.

I started to get Soil, and even got some Blue Soil last night.

[Calavel]

I've also noticed gores to be weaker than waters. But I think in return butchering gets better healing ingredients(ticks as opposed to leeches). I took scavenging up to level 90 and switched to butchering today. I got frustrated with all the talisman stuff when all I wanted was healing pots =/...
Remember that you can use both an animal part stabilizier and the crappy vendor water. They stack and it makes a difference (at least at lower levels, I don't know about later).

[Firthal]

Stacking three basic waters and only replacing them with higher grade stabilisers is what I usually do.

I would like to echo the notion about easy farming, and add to that:

The vast majority of kill collector quests send you to grab beasts. If your butchering is up to your level, you can turn decent exp and mats by finding an appropriate kill collector, which is especially nice if you detest travelling and would just like to settle down and grind for an hour or two every now and then. :P

[Fayea]

Actually, just yesterday I had a potion fail that was using gores. I replaced the lvl 1 gores with lvl 1 waters, and the recipe worked. I don't know if it was a bug, or if every stabilizer has different strengths, even at the same level requirement. I wish I could remember the recipe so I could reproduce it, but it was very odd.

Was the level 1 Gore a drop and the level 1 water vendor bought?

I noticed that level 1 drops, as far as stabilizers go, are weaker than the level 1 vendor bought one.

Someone posted a formula on the apoth board where they said the level 1 vendor water seemed to give about 25 "stability" where any other stabilizer gave a value equal to it's skill level.

When I did scavenging as gathering skill, I had recipes that wouldn't stabilize when using drop level 1 water and when I put vendor bought level 1 the bar would go green instantly.

[sycoman2]

I've also noticed gores to be weaker than waters. But I think in return butchering gets better healing ingredients(ticks as opposed to leeches). I took scavenging up to level 90 and switched to butchering today. I got frustrated with all the talisman stuff when all I wanted was healing pots =/...

Ticks and leaches are gathered by both actually. With scavenging ticks come from beastmen and leaches come from humans / dwarves / elves .. etc. With butching you seem to get leaches and ticks randomly from the same beasts.

[esefire]

Ticks come from mountain lion type mobs iirc. Also a nice kill quest I just found was in a dwarf town in black craag, south of the rvr area. He wanted boars killed and was a nice spot south of town for them along with some wolf packs nearby. Butching supplies an apoc crafter with everything he needs but the vials.

[Calamar]

I have found Gore zoids on different type of creatures (like boars) but the most reliable by now are spiders. I just farm them and stock with Zoids.

For stabilizers if I have problems, I use the vendor's water+ zoids. Between the two they pump the bar at green part. Usually when skilling up I only use water and save the zoids for "real" use, failling a few recipes is not a big deal with how easy is to stack ingredients once you find the right animal/creature. But I am low level so I don't know if this will work later or spiders will be still dropping lots of Zoids.

[Frosten]

Butchering gets Zoic Gore, which is a Stabilizer.
excuse me but have u found any 150+ stablizer locations in t4 i have passed the zoic gores from the wolves and spiders i'd be grateful if u can show me where i can find the 150+ been looking everywhere !

thanks,
frosten

[Blackdevil]

Just find Lvl36+ wolves.. they drop Zoic Gores 150, 175 (green), 185 (blue) & 200 purple) versions. I farm mine in Praag but it's Order side :(

[Kleavage]

Changing between Scavanging and Butchering did you have any problems levelling up the new skill, not being able to go back to the low levels. I have had scavanging since the very beginning.

[Xelix]

Changing between Scavanging and Butchering did you have any problems levelling up the new skill, not being able to go back to the low levels. I have had scavanging since the very beginning.

to lvl your new skill, just hunt mobs that are around your lvl. You don't need to go back to T1 to raise your skill.

So if you are for example lvl 32 and you changed your skill from butchering to scaveging, it is best to hunt lvl 32+ mobs to raise your skill.

[Reksio]

Wolves in Bark Varr, and I assume other places too, drop various levels of zoic gore on a regular basis. They are as good as water for apothecary.

Yep, all the wolves drop wolf blood (a nice and unstable healing main ingr) and zooic gore (stabilizer)

Boars drop boar blood which makes concotions last longer as far as I remember.

Squigs drop squig bits that make potions stronger.

Spiders drop mats for armoring pots and stabilizers (as someone else said)

Lizards drop tongues for explosion potions and mats for armoring potions.

Demons drop stuff for damage pots and stat buffs (different types of demons - different stats).

This is what I have noticed anyways.

[RedWolfeXR]

Another thing about scavenged L1 water is that its more valuable than the vendor water. You can sell it and buy several vendor waters with the coppers.