Firearm of Choice

[Ravana]

Havent been hearing the end of it since 'Weapon of Choice' , so heres the ranged weapons poll.

Me, i choose pistols. Ever since that scene in The Musketeers ....*smirks and remembers with fondness of the time some poor schmuck got shot in the head at point blank with a pistol*

*edit* Took my time trying to decide whether to put 'unique' weapons in it (e.g Repeater Handguns), but decided that if i do that , then theres probably a whole bunch of other weapons people will want in, so these are just the mainstream.

[badkarma]

.... ::wonders where the actual "Poll" part of this thread is::

never mind. it just popped up.

I love me handguns/rifles/muskets. The pistols on the WH screens look too big just to be pistols, so I'm assuming they are handguns.

[Nordug]

crossbows.. there's just something cool about them, being silent and all..

[Shacklock01]

A brace of Flintlocks and a Blunderbuss! pewpew.

[Ojike]

Crossbow.. the weapon that mostly fits a assassin.

[Shacklock01]

Crossbow.. the weapon that mostly fits a assassin.


Waylander the Slayer pewpew!

[Lowen]

Havent been hearing the end of it since 'Weapon of Choice' , so heres the ranged weapons poll.

Me, i choose pistols. Ever since that scene in The Musketeers ....*smirks and remembers with fondness of the time some poor schmuck got shot in the head at point blank with a pistol*

*edit* Took my time trying to decide whether to put 'unique' weapons in it (e.g Repeater Handguns), but decided that if i do that , then theres probably a whole bunch of other weapons people will want in, so these are just the mainstream.


I voted but you forgot throwing knives, spears, javelins, and mentioning a recurve bow...
Recurves came in between 300 BC and 300 AD...some of the earliest found dats back to 100 or so years after christ with a few artists depictions dating back to around 200BC

[AlienOverlord]

Me, i choose pistols. Ever since that scene in The Musketeers ....*smirks and remembers with fondness of the time some poor schmuck got shot in the head at point blank with a pistol*

Which Musketeer movie do you mean? The only one I ever think of is the 1974 classic with Michael York, Richard Chamberlain, Christopher Lee and, of course, Raquel Welch.
More sword fighting than any cool pistol-play but still enormously fun.

[Ravana]

I voted but you forgot throwing knives, spears, javelins, and mentioning a recurve bow...
Recurves came in between 300 BC and 300 AD...some of the earliest found dats back to 100 or so years after christ with a few artists depictions dating back to around 200BC


In case you missed it , here it is again.

Took my time trying to decide whether to put 'unique' weapons in it (e.g Repeater Handguns), but decided that if i do that , then theres probably a whole bunch of other weapons people will want in, so these are just the mainstream.

Which Musketeer movie do you mean? The only one I ever think of is the 1974 classic with Michael York, Richard Chamberlain, Christopher Lee and, of course, Raquel Welch.

More sword fighting than any cool pistol-play but still enormously fun.

I mean the one made in 1993 'The Three Musketeers'. One of the musketeers, I think Aramis, the one who is the most religious, is fond of using pistols. I think in total of the whole movie there was some 7 pistol kills by him , not sure.

[JD_Brett]

The enginieer with the modified musket has always been one of my favorite Empire models.
http://ca.games-workshop.com/storefront/store.ca?do=Individual&code=99060202107&orignav=13

The blunderbuss is cool too but it isn't really something I would want to use. The noise must be deafening.

[versuvius]

Blunderbuss FTW!! well, i am a dwarf engineer

[Lowen]

Blunderbuss FTW!! well, i am a dwarf engineer


I'll still take a bow anyday... Fat loud, smelly obnoxious orcs and gobbies make great targets..and with no stealth in game the less noise a kill makes and the more "hidden" you are behind cover, the better a bow will be.

Firing a gun off all the time is a dead give away of your location.

[versuvius]

fire a few grenades (plus we have an artillery strike skill) they wont have time to run and attack us, they will all be quorn and in small vacuum packed cases where they belong

[Thorval]

blunderbuss, pistols and rifles would still miss and you have one little pebble to hit the enemy, with a blunderbuss, you can blast everything in front of you and have a high chance of hitting them with something.

[Brandotheninjamaster]

Has anyone ever seen the kinda damage a blunderbus can do?!? There is nothing I would like better than blow a gigantic hole in an orc torso with one of those things or go squig hunting. The only problem would be the reload time and the fact that it would be a million time easier to carry 2 or more pistols than a 2 or more gigantic blunderbuses...and you only have one shot and it has to count...

[versuvius]

not really...have pre packed canisters of shots in rolls of paper. all you need then is the powder down the end, that doesnt take long to pour

[Retribution]

Oh c'mon...how can you like pistols over a blunderbuss....pistols are tiny...blunderbuss blows yer arm off....heh heh heh....that'll show them elves

[Brandotheninjamaster]

Oh c'mon...how can you like pistols over a blunderbuss....pistols are tiny...blunderbuss blows yer arm off....heh heh heh....that'll show them elves
lol that was funny retribution!

[versuvius]

lets all agree pistols are ELF weapons! infiltrated into dawi and empire society to screw us over!

[Okri]

lets all agree pistols are ELF weapons! infiltrated into dawi and empire society to screw us over!

Bah, and elf couldn't even lift a decent pistol, not even one of them flimsy Empire ones that'll shatter even before the first shot has gone off.

[versuvius]

Okri has an exelent point...i must rethink my conspiracy theories to do with elves...

[Rofllove]

Okri has an exelent point...i must rethink my conspiracy theories to do with elves...


Only elves are getting beta invites.

[versuvius]

Versuvius twiches sporadically and goes to shoot the people who give out invites

[mockingbyrd7]

Pistols, from what I've seen in the pictures of Witch Hunter (which is probably going to be my main) both in concept art and in the game itself, pistols look awesome and, quote, "are devastating and powerful". <<From Witch-Hunter class description.

[Helios]

Muskets / Rifles - One shot, one kill. Rinse and repeat while the body count soars. ^_^

[Ghrond]

Shot goes in. Flint comes down. Head comes off!

Whats not to like?

Although I have to admit that Dark Elf rapid-fire Crossbows are awsome.

[Thoden Firehammer]

Isn't this supposed to be a poll of "firearms" .... heh what ever I vote BLunderbuss!... bigger the gun the more it can fire XD

[versuvius]

why isnt gattling gun on there?? Dawi have gattling guns

[Ghrond]

Or Skaven "Rattling" guns for that matter :D

[versuvius]

Sod the skaven, is a human thread:rolleyes:

[Thoden Firehammer]

There is no Ratling gun choice becuase shoddy things that will blow up the second time you fire them do not count as an actual weapon :P

but on a slightly more serious note, come on!! how can you people pick a tiny pistol over a Blunderbuss!!... I mean come on the damn thing is a freaken slug gun!!, you fire that thing and it'll tkae your arm off along with your opponens waist!

[Ghrond]

Suit yourself manthing how bout' a hellblaster then? ;)

[Thoden Firehammer]

Suit yourself manthing how bout' a hellblaster then? ;)


It's called a Hellcannon, and that's made my Chaos Dwarfs, also Helga would show that thing who's the real cannon! :p

[Krulltak]

It's called a Hellcannon, and that's made my Chaos Dwarfs, also Helga would show that thing who's the real cannon! :p


Don't make me remind you of Skaven weaponry again, Thooden.




It's not really a firearm(and niether is a crossbow), but I chose throwing axe, because I love Vikings. :p

Also, orcs get to use massive throwing choppas.

[Thoden Firehammer]

Don't make me remind you of Skaven weaponry again, Thooden.




It's not really a firearm(and niether is a crossbow), but I chose throwing axe, because I love Vikings. :p

Also, orcs get to use massive throwing choppas.

Why would you remind me I already beat you on this argument

[Krulltak]

Why would you remind me I already beat you on this argument


No you didn't. I wasn't even the one arguing against you.

And they still have machines 10 times as destructive as anything the Dawi can muster.

[Thoden Firehammer]

No you didn't. I wasn't even the one arguing against you.

And they still have machines 10 times as destructive as anything the Dawi can muster.


Oh right it was that throt guy ... I beat em :P

pfft Helga owns em :P

They may be 10X destructive, but they can only fire once, the second time they fire it will go up in an explosion that's atleast 20x more powerfull than what it would fire :P

[Krulltak]

Oh right it was that throt guy ... I beat em :P

pfft Helga owns em :P

They may be 10X destructive, but they can only fire once, the second time they fire it will go up in an explosion that's atleast 20x more powerfull than what it would fire :P


That's why they have a new strategy. Run into the enemy, and COUNT on it to malfunction.:D

[Ghrond]

It's called a Hellcannon, and that's made my Chaos Dwarfs, also Helga would show that thing who's the real cannon! :p

Er... i'm talking about the Empire Hellblaster Volley Cannon, you know, from Nuln.

Not a side arm I know and more likely to blow up but what a way to go :cool:

And besides a Hellcannon is more likely to grab you, chew you up and then fire you're flaming corpse at you're enemy. Not nice.

[Zacaris]

Muskets and Rifles simply pwn. Although Repeating crossbows like in Van Helsing pwn everything.

[Ghrond]

I've not read the Dark Elf TT army book in a while but I seem to remember that the repeating crossbow was slightly weaker than a normal one, in terms of range and armour penetration. Its probably the closest thing to an Uzi you're going to get :p

Would be interesting if they actualy implemented it in the game.

[Rembrant]

Repeater Crossbow. Why?

I don't know. Something about riddling my opponent from far away, and seeing every single arrow lodged in their armor and flesh brings a happy smile to my face...:D

[checkthis5000]

Wheel Lock pistols for me. And if you're really crazy Pistols with multiple wheel locks. To fire a quick burst.

[Thoden Firehammer]

Er... i'm talking about the Empire Hellblaster Volley Cannon, you know, from Nuln.

Not a side arm I know and more likely to blow up but what a way to go :cool:

And besides a Hellcannon is more likely to grab you, chew you up and then fire you're flaming corpse at you're enemy. Not nice.


Oh that. gotcha, wait I want an organgun!! it's shots may not be as big as a normal cannon but it can damn well fire 4 of em! XD

[Krulltak]

Repeater Crossbow. Why?

I don't know. Something about riddling my opponent from far away, and seeing every single arrow lodged in their armor and flesh brings a happy smile to my face...:D


Crossbows were never a very long ranged weapon, actually. And they were considerably weaker in power then single shot crossbows.

Of course in Warhammer, the laws of history don't apply, so Dark Elven repeater crossbows are actually deadly. :P

[Teljor]

pistols, there small, pack a massive punch, and can be easily consealed and used in close combat.

[Ofaloaf]

Blunderbuss, although I would take a musket if it came with a bayonet.

[KyanMehwulfe]

Big old heavy crossbow. Preferably strapped to the back of a goblin.

[Dracnye]

Bow (short and long). This is one of the fastest weapons of it's time, faster to reload and fire then all other weaponry, and since it lacked the mechanical knowledge and components of the other weaponry whether it be a crossbow or a gunpowder weapon, short of breaking the string, it would last out the entire battle.

Gunpowder if it got wet was useless. Crossbows had lots of small mechanical pieces that could break in combat, making it a pile of wood clumped together in the form of a weapon.

[Thoden Firehammer]

Bow (short and long). This is one of the fastest weapons of it's time, faster to reload and fire then all other weaponry, and since it lacked the mechanical knowledge and components of the other weaponry whether it be a crossbow or a gunpowder weapon, short of breaking the string, it would last out the entire battle.

Gunpowder if it got wet was useless. Crossbows had lots of small mechanical pieces that could break in combat, making it a pile of wood clumped together in the form of a weapon.


Yes but the advent of certain armor made your weapons pretty useless

[Ofaloaf]

Bow (short and long). This is one of the fastest weapons of it's time, faster to reload and fire then all other weaponry, and since it lacked the mechanical knowledge and components of the other weaponry whether it be a crossbow or a gunpowder weapon, short of breaking the string, it would last out the entire battle.

Gunpowder if it got wet was useless. Crossbows had lots of small mechanical pieces that could break in combat, making it a pile of wood clumped together in the form of a weapon.
This is why gunpowder-based weapons never became popular. Since it rains every single day of the year on earth, gunpowder just can't work outside.

Also, the usefulness of the bow depends entirely on the user, and how strong he/she is and how well-trained he/she is. Meanwhile, you can give a crossbow to a peasant and say "Here, point at the enemy and pull the trigger," and it will work well enough.

[Kharyon]

Muskets/rifles, there isn't much that is quite as satisfying as seeing your target go *splat* from fifty-plus yards off.

Edit: on the point of rain, ever try to fire a bow with a wet string? Doesn't work so well. (the natural type I mean, not Kevlar but the old school stuff)

[Steel*Faith]

I like crossbows. Reliable, user safe, quick to reload (compared to black powder weapons) and powerful enough to pierce strong armor.

[Krulgar Neckripper]

Just something cool about pulling out two flintlocks and dusting someone.

[VeriusCarth]

Bows, for exactly the reasons pointed out earlier.

Bows take skill. Besides, arrows are much more interesting than bullets. Sure, bullets are probably more deadly, but they're fired from guns, and I don't much enjoy the thought of guns at all. Something less deadly, that takes more practice than "Aim and pull trigger." So that not every freak on the street with a gun can kill someone if he well and feels like it.


There's also something about the way bows look, too. They're graceful, whilst guns are large and clunky. Besides, when you're descended from a race of nomads who used recurve bows from horse-back, there's a bit of a draw. :)

[versuvius]

Pah, Pansy elf bow or a beautifully crafted triple barreled musket with an axe on the hilt? No i have to say Fire Arms have it from the dwarf perspective.

[VeriusCarth]

Pah, Pansy elf bow or a beautifully crafted triple barreled musket with an axe on the hilt? No i have to say Fire Arms have it from the dwarf perspective.

I'm hardly a dwarf fan. :) You're all just a bunch of hooligans. I prefer races that can reach my shoulders, at least. ;-)

But, yeah, I was always an Elf person, while my twin brother was a Dwarf person. Funny how I'm tall, and he's short. Thus, I like bows more for that reason as well. :)

[Krulltak]

I'm hardly a dwarf fan. :smile: You're all just a bunch of hooligans. I prefer races that can reach my shoulders, at least. :wink:


Last I checked, having yer feeble Elgi legs chopped off, which barely held yae' anyway, will put ye' right down tah size.





Apperantly no one has mentioned a good old arbalest yet. Now those are some deadly machines.

[Kinthral]

I had to give my vote to pistols, as my real life preferences outweigh any medieval-era usefulness I might be inclined to consider. In all seriousness though, I'm a huge fan of crossbows. It's a gun that (a) works, and (b) shoots straight. er.

Though thrown weapons get the style point. No knives though - axes are much cooler.

[VeriusCarth]

Last I checked, having yer feeble Elgi legs chopped off, which barely held yae' anyway, will put ye' right down tah size.

Assuming you can get to them. :)

[Sir Athanasius]

I vote for rifles, as they can easily pierce through the heaviest of armor at a relatively safe distance.

[versuvius]

PAH! Cant go through gromil.

[devilslayer0]

I think musket/rifles are the best just because of the black cloud of powder that comes out of the gun after its fired.

[Krulltak]

I think musket/rifles are the best just because of the black cloud of powder that comes out of the gun after its fired.


FYI, that black cloud of powder iS NOT BENEFICIAL. Why the heck do you think smokeless powder was invented for?

[Sir Athanasius]

PAH! Cant go through gromil.

Hmmmm maybe if I get really close? :D

[versuvius]

Miners clad in gromil survive mine cave ins unscathed, a puny musket wont to squat

[Krulltak]

Miners clad in gromil survive mine cave ins unscathed, a puny musket wont to squat


Well, it's not like Dawi and Empire will be fighting each other, so the wheelocks are still effective on a Chaos Warrior's armor.

[Thoden Firehammer]

Well, it's not like Dawi and Empire will be fighting each other, so the wheelocks are still effective on a Chaos Warrior's armor.


I'm agreeing with Ver here, Dwarf armor is better than Chaos armor, as odd as that may seem, but I will not say it's the Ultimate shieldm but then again that's the entierty of the Dwarf tactics... hell if they decided to use a phalanx i'd say bye bye Orcs

[Krulltak]

I'm agreeing with Ver here, Dwarf armor is better than Chaos armor, as odd as that may seem, but I will not say it's the Ultimate shieldm but then again that's the entierty of the Dwarf tactics... hell if they decided to use a phalanx i'd say bye bye Orcs

What? Did you think I was disagreeing? Chaos armor is nowhere near the quality of a full suit of an Ironbreaker's gromril. A real tough dwarf in that tin can can fight on for hours, days even, and unless he gets stabbed in the eye, or his helmet gets knocked over, the only other way to kill an Ironbreaker is to smash him under his armor until he is nothing but soup. But I'm sure you know the difficulty in that, considering they can survive a cave-in.

[Thoden Firehammer]

What? Did you think I was disagreeing? Chaos armor is nowhere near the quality of a full suit of an Ironbreaker's gromril. A real tough dwarf in that tin can can fight on for hours, days even, and unless he gets stabbed in the eye, or his helmet gets knocked over, the only other way to kill an Ironbreaker is to smash him under his armor until he is nothing but soup. But I'm sure you know the difficulty in that, considering they can survive a cave-in.


Actauly lol no I didn't think you were diagreeing I was only saying I was agreeing with him, I quoted you becuase you agreed as well, sorry if it was confusing.

[Vegetta]

Hochland Long Rifle

Outrider Repeating Rifle

[Teljor]

Miners clad in gromil survive mine cave ins unscathed, a puny musket wont to squat

lol i beg to differ, if those rifles actualy can hit (emipre makes the most accurate, but there hard to come by). theres a really good chance theyll puncture anything, even gromil. if an orc choppa can break the armour if swung by a poweful ork then a hochland sure could.

I'm agreeing with Ver here, Dwarf armor is better than Chaos armor, as odd as that may seem, but I will not say it's the Ultimate shieldm but then again that's the entierty of the Dwarf tactics... hell if they decided to use a phalanx i'd say bye bye Orcs

dwarfs are so slow that is they turned there formation into a box theyd be completly encircled or flanked and abused, at there speed its best they try to get the most lenth they can without over streching it. the reason elves are great with phallanx is because there so fast!

[Krulltak]

lol i beg to differ, if those rifles actualy can hit (emipre makes the most accurate, but there hard to come by). theres a really good chance theyll puncture anything, even gromil. if an orc choppa can break the armour if swung by a poweful ork then a hochland sure could.


Actually, dwarfs are the ones who make the most reliable and accurate black powder weapons. Empire black powder weaponry is a lot more volatile and primitive, except for thier flintlocks.

And I doubt an orc can actually manage to crush Gromril so easily, even a Big 'un.

Although, you could always aim the Hochland straight at the eyslit in the Ironbreaker's armor for a headshot.

[Garathos]

Actually, dwarfs are the ones who make the most reliable and accurate black powder weapons. Empire black powder weaponry is a lot more volatile and primitive, except for thier flintlocks.

And I doubt an orc can actually manage to crush Gromril so easily, even a Big 'un.

Although, you could always aim the Hochland straight at the eyslit in the Ironbreaker's armor for a headshot.
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[Snuggans]

bows for sure.

something about english longbowmen tickles my silly

[Elge]

Anything within the sniping-range is love.

[Lord_Mortimer_88]

rifles/muskets though i must stress that the only real rifle that the empire have would be the hochland long rifle the rest is smooth bore :D

dwarven blackpouder weaponary is more reliable however they do not experiment with it which is why the imperial armoury contains a greater variety

the empires stuff can work alot better and is in many ways statistically superior however it is less reliable or unpredicatable (this is the same again for skaven in comparision) Eg Volley guns have less shots but it is far less likely to explode compared to a volleygun :D same again with cannons empire cannons may be bigger nastier and longer ranged :D but they canty have runes which keep them in action longer. the same applies for 5th ed handguns empire handguns got xtra range on the 1st turn but the dwarven thunderers could move and shoot

ok One last thing THE IMPERIAL ENGINEERS GUILD IS BASED IN ALTDORF NOT NULN!!! VOLLEYGUNS COME FROM ALTDORF !!!!! cannons and mortars come form nuln. thank you

ps the above is a pet peeve of mine

(altdorf player :D

[Riggs]

Pistol or a small single hand crossbow. or maybe one that straps to your forearm.

[Bergelmir]

A pair of http://www.apachego.com/freeman/freeman.jpg in the belt, wouldnt say no to that! And a http://www.aurorahistoryboutique.com/products/C000055_L.jpg in the boot.

[Graven]

A pair of http://www.apachego.com/freeman/freeman.jpg in the belt, wouldnt say no to that! And a http://www.aurorahistoryboutique.com/products/C000055_L.jpg in the boot.

Pretty good choice, I'm prone to agree with you.

[Bargad]

rifles/muskets though i must stress that the only real
ok One last thing THE IMPERIAL ENGINEERS GUILD IS BASED IN ALTDORF NOT NULN!!! VOLLEYGUNS COME FROM ALTDORF !!!!! cannons and mortars come form nuln. thank you

ps the above is a pet peeve of mine

(altdorf player :D


Yes, but the College of Engineering and The Gunnery School is in Nuln.

Personally, I definetly would like a Hochland long Rifle with a Flintlock as back-up.

[Bergelmir]

Pretty good choice, I'm prone to agree with you.

Graven, lets hunt witches together, you and me.

[Chielz0r]

My fire arm of choice: an Imperial Great Canon ^^

[Chrismorris]

Blunderbuss (Not a long range weapon, more of a shotgun)

[Chiriokt T'vlkaailkt]

Double shotties with links of pre-packed cartridges and arm braces with shocks?
Or Inferno grenades and a flame thrower.