Why do you like Dark Elves?

[Zoatibix]

Another 'while we still waiting' thread...light hearted and not the place for our usual Dark Elf bickering unless it is 'in character'...

What drew you to the Druchii?

I loved elves since I read the Hobbit as a kid. Magic, beauty, skilled swordsmen and archers.

Then I hit my teens and suddenly fantasy evil seemed cool! Forget those Wood Elves standing around being dripped on by the rain. Those whiter than white High Elves just made me yawn.

The Drow and Warhammer's Dark Elves were dark and seductive. They got out and did stuff while the other elves were lamenting glories past.

Twenty years later and I still think that Cold One Knights are cooler than Dragon Princes and Witch Elves beat the snot out of Maiden Guard.

[svart_lotus]

I was considering DE or HE a long time ago, not know so much about warhammer at that time. Then, while i was considering, my sister bought me a box of DE warriors to start my army. It was that simple, but i do not regret anything, though today i play Tomb Kings if i get around to playing warhammer fantasy, mostly 40k nowdays (space marines).

[Joeydevil]

I love that they kill for pleasure and revenge and wear skin for armor!

[Nathar]

They're evil. Not the (to me) boring old 'evil for the sake of evil' but has a purpose. I also love that they're evil for a reason. Chaos just want to take of the world, same goes for skaven, undead (vampires, TK are hardly really evil) wants power and greenskins just want to kill. Dark elves have a reason for why they got where they are now and wether you agree that it's Malekith's right to rule Ulthuan everyone should be able to agree that even if screwed up it's still a reason.

I like that.

Also they look awesome, they're extremely skilled and powerful, fear no opponent (even if they should) and enslave most everyone in the world (even dwarfs and orcs!). They're more awesome then having your own monkey!

[Soybe]

Hot and scary... and hot.

[Kimmie]

i like dark elves for a few reasons

they have powerful women who are sexy at the same time
the witch elves and sorceress are what really make dark elves special to me. they don't run away from being sexy. the are intoxicatingly beautiful but totally deadly at the same time. they are every bit as twisted as the guys they just look better doing it.

the don't care about right or wrong. they do something just because they can or even better they do something because they aren't supposed to. thats actually why the women are so sexy. they don't look politically correct because they don't want to be goodytwoshoes

how can you not like that

[V'raneth]

Because vengeance is the sweetest satisfaction; debauchery the most succulent of pleasures.

[Necrophyt]

I like elves in all Fantasy settings... except Warcraft

I like the bad guys.

Put them together

dark elves.

When my friend introduced me to Warhammer I found his book on High elves and was all gung-ho about them. I went on the GW website and looked at a list of their armies what do I see? DARK elves.:o

[wojo2024]

IF you look at it all on the side of the Dark Elves, they are the "bad guys" who just want there rightful home back. They might be warlike and what not, but they just want ulthuan back.

[Enide]

Just start looking into DE, I like dark and evil part. Still waiting for the book I order.

[kharnage]

They are dark, evil and sadistic --- three of my favorite qualities!!!;)

They are totally unlike the normal elf stereotype. They have so many good units, it sets them above just about everything else. Their fluff is awesome too!!!

There's really too much to say about it!

They just rock!!

[Theloreapprentice]

I like the fact they are vicious in a way that can only be described as egotistical evil, not even druchii like other druchii and they are always trying to assassinate or trick their foes into something.

But then again I can find something I like about every race.....

[Illya]

Despite the minis being old, they're still some of the best GW minis around. They look exactly like they should.

Dark Elves were my first miniatures, and though I later on strayed to various types, I always looked back at them with fondness.

They're evil, but then again, they have good reason to be so. Gotta love dark elves.

[Blaze]

I like them because they are elves with some balls. Not in the literal sense with the females of course but you know what I mean.
Someone who knows nothing about Warhammer and seeing their "dark" look may think "Ok so they are emo elves then". Nothing could be farther from the truth.
They are frail elves but they aren't aftraid to get down and dirty in melee combat. They are not angsty, they are fanatical and bloodthirsty.

I like them because they conflict with the usual elf clicé.
Show me your average leather wearing bow weilding panzy Legolas wannabe and I'll raise you a spiky heavy armor wearing two-handed sword weilding Executioner, charing into battle to cut off some heads for the glory of the bloody handed god.

[zoa]

Deadly finesse basically describes it for me, you can elaborate on it if you like. It has nothing to do with the evil pretences or dark nature that is show in them. They can wipe out a battle field as a frail looking creature, and I love characters that have more than meets the eye.

[Bulwyf]

I love Dark Elves because they are extremely pragmatic and will do any means to justify their ends to a goal. If they need to play nice, they do so. If they need to murder, maim and torture then they do so. They probably get more of a pleasure of the latter but if it impedes them on what they really want then they eschew it for their own ends.

[Kellaris]

I love their combat style. Very aggresive, but also lot of finesse inside.

Also, the are not "evil" just becouse the want to be.
They want their home back, and if the rest of the world don't like this,.... that is the problem os the rest of the world.
They are essence of Warhammer world. Dark, brutal and cool.

[Noli me Tangere]

I would say, that the message that best describes my all around feeling of dark elves is, "I don't dislike Dark Elves." I just prefer a more modest, but still gender equated and vicious race to match my play style. Oddly, this usually means humans in any game I play. Simply because, while they can be many things, they can easily fill the vision of a cynical, sarcastic, power hungry, maniacal and somehow still somewhat endearing character.

:)

[Zappa]

Why do I like them? I don't. All. Elves. Must. Die.


Dwarfs & Greenskins > All

[Thoden Firehammer]

Why do I like them? I don't. All. Elves. Must. Die.


Dwarfs > All

Let me correct that for you, there now I agree! XD

[Eltair Shadowblade]

because, they are pure , really pure evil.

these arent no emo pansies, no they sacrife people for their gods.

they torture victims, use black magic, tame the most ferocious beasts for their own will.

need i say more?

[Zappa]

Let me correct that for you, there now I agree! XD


I'd argue, but I love Dwarfs too much. = /

*Ponders rerolling Ironbreaker or Hammerer*

[Zappa]

because, they are pure , really pure evil.

these arent no emo pansies, no they sacrife people for their gods.

they torture victims, use black magic, tame the most ferocious beasts for their own will.

need i say more?


Sounds kinda emo to me... Or at least designed specifically for emo appeal. But, hey, these things were developed before the emo fad was made.

[Thoden Firehammer]

Sounds kinda emo to me... Or at least designed specifically for emo appeal. But, hey, these things were developed before the emo fad was made.
I was thinking the same thing, you know for a Gobi your alright, it'd be a shame that i'd have to smash your face in on the battle field XD

[Zappa]

I was thinking the same thing, you know for a Gobi your alright, it'd be a shame that i'd have to smash your face in on the battle field XD


Well I do plan on having a Dwarf alt.... Probably an Ironbreaker....

Scratch that, they were made for GOTH appeal. Emos didn't exist back then...

[Xurré]

Scratch that, they were made for GOTH appeal. Emos didn't exist back then...
I think you're confusing dark elves with vampires.


- Xurré

[Triloq]

I'm beginning to doubt whether many people on these forums even know what emo is... :confused:

[Xurré]

I'm beginning to doubt whether many people on these forums even know what emo is... :confused:
It's a very rare surname (popularity rank in the U.S.: #85466).


- Xurré

[Zappa]

I'm beginning to doubt whether many people on these forums even know what emo is... :confused:


The more you mention it the more I think I'm wrong. It's definitely goth, not emo. Emo's are self-destructive, goths are generally destructive to everyone else. <_<

Well.... The crazy ones anyway.

[Xurré]

The more you mention it the more I think I'm wrong. It's definitely goth, not emo. Emo's are self-destructive, goths are generally destructive to everyone else. <_<

Well.... The crazy ones anyway.
I think you might want to read this page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goth_subculture). Note in particular that Goths are pacifists, creative and individualists. They just tend to have a leaning towards darker and macabre themes.

Either way, I don't see how this, in any way, even resembles dark elves. It does fit with the Toreador-esque Vampires of Anne Rice (for example).

And while we're at it, read this page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo_%28slang%29) for Emo, which also doesn't fit dark elves (dark elves don't wallow in their self-pity :p ).

In short, I doubt that dark elves were created for any particular sub-culture.


- Xurré

[Zappa]

Crazyass, violent, dark, homocidal, madmen. THAT'S what I was looking for!


EDIT: I'd hardly call goths individualists....

[Ikego]

What is there not to like? Strength, grace, and power twisted with evil... yum.

[Psycojester]

I like em because they lack the traditional masturbatory wish-fulfillment that defines most elves in fiction.

"Oh i'm exactly like a human, only brilliant at everything, immortal and beautiful. But my ears are pointy, how can i not be the pinnacle of imaginative creations"

[Tiervexx]

I like em because they lack the traditional masturbatory wish-fulfillment that defines most elves in fiction.

"Oh i'm exactly like a human, only brilliant at everything, immortal and beautiful. But my ears are pointy, how can i not be the pinnacle of imaginative creations"

BWHAHAHAHA



Dark Elves just kind of define cool. And are hot.

[Zihark]

Well, I love the dark elves for many reasons.

Their background story is just awsome, they got a damn good reason for what they do
Their armours and clothings looks really good.
They are elves, I have always loved elves
They are "evil type" I have always loved the evil types
They arn't your regular pansy elf standing in the background with a bow, they willr ather charge directly in to your lead without even thinking twice
My first and favourite warhammer army. To start with i was thinking about high elves, then i saw the dark elves and i fell in love with them

[DownPhoenix]

Crazyass, violent, dark, homocidal, madmen. THAT'S what I was looking for!


EDIT: I'd hardly call goths individualists....

Yes, exactly! Dark Elves are selfish, homicidal lunatics on all sorts of whacked-out drugs and will do anything to anyone to get something beneficial or somewhere they want to be.

And yes, they're hot too!

[Mogdin Wrathammer]

Yes, exactly! Dark Elves are selfish, homicidal lunatics on all sorts of whacked-out drugs and will do anything to anyone to get something beneficial or somewhere they want to be.

And yes, they're hot too!


Well, their "hotness" is arguable. Personally, I like my women with, you know, bodyfat.

[Xurré]

Well, their "hotness" is arguable. Personally, I like my women with, you know, bodyfat.
And a beard I'm sure. ;)


- Xurré

[Thoden Firehammer]

And a beard I'm sure. ;)


- Xurré

Now now, that would only be in LoTRs, besides we all know Tlken was an elf lover! *grunbles*

[Mogdin Wrathammer]

And a beard I'm sure. ;)


- Xurré


I'm sure you'd like to think that ya ruddy, meatless, Tolkein-lover.

[Estebar]

I posted this in the "Why do you want to be a High Elf" sister-thread to this one on the Asur forums. It could be relevant here too.

I think, with me, it's mostly to do with patriotism. I'll admit that the Dark Elves seem more characterful, with their ivory-skinned red-lipped beauties, and their murder gods and their dark magic, but I've often seen the High and Dark Elves as the extremes of somewhat negative traditional national stereotypes of the British and the Americans.

British - Emotionally constipated, stuffy, snobbish, sexless intellectuals obsessed with formality and proper conduct, indifferent to religion, constantly exhuding a sense of superiority over every country they frequently travel to in a way which indicates they may have once owned it. (High Elves)

Americans - Ruthlessly motivated, passionate, highly sex-oriented, insensitive, determined game-players obsessed with winning, religiously fanatical, living in extremes, constantly exhuding a sense of superiority over every country they frequently travel to in a way which indicates they will soon own it. (Dark Elves)

...and as a Brit, I feel compelled to defend my stuffy old compatriots and our silly little island against the increasing popularity and growing strength of our vulgar, headstrong cousins across the waters. That was my reasoning behind wanting to play a High Elf, but it also makes a comment about the Druchii. One thing I wanted to add regarding the Druchii was the famed females in high society desperate to preserve their youth and voluptuous (un-Elven) beauty using unnatural means, such as daemonic pacts and cauldrons of blood (plastic surgery). Reminds me very much of Hollywood, and the image/reputation-based fame game. Everybody wants a piece, everybody wants to climb the ladder and they'll use any means to get there. There's clear cut division between the "winners" and the "losers". *does an L-sign on his forehead*

EDIT: In fact, if you're fortunate enough to be able to see the artwork for Morathi from the 5th edition Dark Elves army book which inspired the latest Sorceress model (before they turned her into a goth Britney Spears with a Janet Jackson "wardrobe malfunction"), Morathi's perfectly porcelain emotionless youthful face looked like a surgeon's botox-fuelled masterpiece, which counteracted perfectly with her old, haggard stance, leaning wearily on her staff.

EDIT2: Found it! (http://www.collecting-miniatures.com/wiki/index.php/Image:DECA-11.jpg)

I realise this could be somewhat offensive to Americans, (just as that High Elven/Star Trek Vulcan personality could be offensive to the British), but remember that these are traditional negative national stereotypes. People assume that, essentially, the Americans broke away from the British because they were sick of their stuffy formality and wanted to be able to express themselves in a completely liberal new land where anyone could do anything they wanted. Warhammer having come from roots in the UK, perhaps this is why the Dark Elves have become so "outrageous and vulgar" from a High Elven point of view, with their naked women dancing around and their extremist views on everything...

Thought I'd just make that point. Anyway, all that aside, I like the Dark Elves because I've always liked adversaries and arch-nemeses. The two sides of the same coin - good and bad, ying and yang, light and dark.

[jkdfhk]

The females look like ...... um lets use nicer words than the one i was thinking of .... Girls that get around alot ....... who doesnt like that kind of girl free ride :D

[Illya]

The females look like ...... um lets use nicer words than the one i was thinking of .... Girls that get around alot ....... who doesnt like that kind of girl free ride :D

Anyone past puberty.

[Malal]

Pure undiluted evil. Freedom from morals,scruples, where the only law is the law of "If im smarter, harder,faster or more cunning then you your ( and everything that gose with it)are mine.".

[Shmu2k]

I think, with me, it's mostly to do with patriotism. I'll admit that the Dark Elves seem more characterful, with their ivory-skinned red-lipped beauties, and their murder gods and their dark magic, but I've often seen the High and Dark Elves as the extremes of somewhat negative traditional national stereotypes of the British and the Americans.

British - Emotionally constipated, stuffy, snobbish, sexless intellectuals obsessed with formality and proper conduct, indifferent to religion, constantly exhuding a sense of superiority over every country they frequently travel to in a way which indicates they may have once owned it. (High Elves)

Americans - Ruthlessly motivated, passionate, highly sex-oriented, insensitive, determined game-players obsessed with winning, religiously fanatical, living in extremes, constantly exhuding a sense of superiority over every country they frequently travel to in a way which indicates they will soon own it. (Dark Elves)

...and as a Brit, I feel compelled to defend my stuffy old compatriots and our silly little island against the increasing popularity and growing strength of our vulgar, headstrong cousins across the waters.Huh, never actually saw it that way, but now that you mention it, it does make a kind of odd, sociologist's logic type of sense. =P

Anyway, I first encountered the Warhammer universe through 40k and fell in love with the Dark Eldarr who do what they do so they can stave off on having their soul feasted upon by...Slaneeshi? I think? I forget. But, for all intents and purposes, they are identical to the Dark Elves in terms of society and culture, which I like. I don't live my day to day life in a hyper-Machiavellian world of backstabbing and treachery, but that doesn't mean I don't love those kinds of characters. I enjoy fiction that explores moral ambiguity with a touch of insanity and the Dark Elves seem to epitomize this in the Warhammer universe more than any other race. It seems like the kind of society in which Vicomte de Valmont and Lady Merteuil would live in (well, early Valmont, not end of the book Valmont) and I just love that.

[Axxar]

Dark elves... What are they? They're not very nice at all. That's why people like them. And you can bet their quests are themed accordingly.

[Arceaus]

I like the political intruige, the machievellian aspect of their society, the purity of their motives. The fact that as a Dark Elf, you really have no reason to trust any of your kindred, and that they will remove you in the instant that it becomes beneficial to and that you should really be doing the same to survive.

I dont believe it is Emo, because Emo is so emotive and soft, its about being weak and showing people that you hurt inside, self sympathy and attention seeking and so on. a Dark elf would tear that to pieces because it is exactly what they aren't - you never display weakness, you never show what you are thinking, you are subtle in getting what you want and you never ever let anyone see you bleed.

Like I say, it is purity of motive and focus.

[Mogdin Wrathammer]

Americans - Ruthlessly motivated, passionate, highly sex-oriented, insensitive, determined game-players obsessed with winning, religiously fanatical, living in extremes, constantly exhuding a sense of superiority over every country they frequently travel to in a way which indicates they will soon own it. (Dark Elves)


Oh I had no idea that I was insensitive..... Or religious. Because last time I checked I hated the church and everything it stands for..... Is there some time-space conundrum taking place in here?

[Shmu2k]

Americans - Ruthlessly motivated, passionate, highly sex-oriented, insensitive, determined game-players obsessed with winning, religiously fanatical, living in extremes, constantly exhuding a sense of superiority over every country they frequently travel to in a way which indicates they will soon own it. (Dark Elves)


Oh I had no idea that I was insensitive..... Or religious. Because last time I checked I hated the church and everything it stands for..... Is there some time-space conundrum taking place in here?
Negative stereotypes != fact. All British people aren't Oscar Wilde clones, either, but it's a common negative stereotype of them, especially here in the US.

[Tiervexx]

Negative stereotypes != fact. All British people aren't Oscar Wilde clones, either, but it's a common negative stereotype of them, especially here in the US.

Oscar Wilde clone stereotype is negative?!!!!!!!!:shock:

[Tiervexx]

Anyone past puberty.

True for the "getting around" part but everyone loves a crazy even if you don't know why...

[Grimfell Gromgear]

Oscar Wilde clone stereotype is negative?!!!!!!!!:shock:

Man, I wish someone would think I was like Oscar Wilde...

Anywho's! Races are stereotypical in Warhammer. They're very pigenholed.

On to the point!

Dark Elves, well... I'd say the politics, but even their backstabbing isn't to the ludicrous levels that the Skaven are at.

I think they have callous selfishness down pat though. It's like an entire race caught in the me generation, fun to watch. Oh, and the repeater crossbows, those are wicked cool.

[Estebar]

Oh I had no idea that I was insensitive..... Or religious. Because last time I checked I hated the church and everything it stands for..... Is there some time-space conundrum taking place in here? If you'd read my post a little more carefully, you would've noticed that I mentioned it being a "traditional somewhat negative national stereotype" of Americans, not a description of the average American.

Although,

"Fundamentalist Christianity is on the rise among the electorate of the world's only superpower, right up to and including the President. If you believe the surveys, 45 percent of Americans, that's about 135 million people, believe the universe is less than ten thousand years old."

That's gotta count for something ;)

[Shmu2k]

Oscar Wilde clone stereotype is negative?!!!!!!!!:shock:
Meh, I was trying to think of a male British celebrity that is pompous, over-educated (what the hell that even means, I'm not quite sure) and effeminate. Granted, Wilde's legendary wit might not really be considered pompousness, and he probably wouldn't be considered effeminate by today's standards but...dammit, well, I had to put something there. :confused:

[Mogdin Wrathammer]

If you'd read my post a little more carefully, you would've noticed that I mentioned it being a "traditional somewhat negative national stereotype" of Americans, not a description of the average American.

Although,

"Fundamentalist Christianity is on the rise among the electorate of the world's only superpower, right up to and including the President. If you believe the surveys, 45 percent of Americans, that's about 135 million people, believe the universe is less than ten thousand years old."

That's gotta count for something ;)


Please.... Don't type that again.... Those numbers make my heart sink.... :(

[Saerain]

I don't agree that America is 'highly sex-oriented'. We are extremely immature about it, however, like most things.. We must be the only nation on Earth that still giggles and gasps like eight year olds when we hear naughty words or see a nipple slip into view. We have issues. It's embarrassing.

But how did this start, anyway? I skipped a page and it had turned into this.

To the question:

Frankly, the Sundering and all the kinslaying that has ensued irritates me. I am a lover of the Asrai primarily because they are apart from such a wasteful, shameful, ridiculous struggle, focused on the threats that the Elves were focused on millennia ago. Asur and Druchii should be more concerned with the preservation of the Elves than with the extermination of half their kin, and I wish that the game would offer me a niche in which to use this opinion in-character (such as the Asrai). For some reason I had always been under the impression (or call it a hope) that while the Asur and Druchii clearly despised each other, either of them would sooner fight the Empire than each other. Evidently I was in denial because I absolutely loathe the Empire. A strong reason that I am considering Dark Elves over High Elves sometimes in my pining.

So, my answer is that I like the Dark Elves if for no other reason than they are not allied with the Empire. It is killing the Asur in me.

[Loekii]

IF you look at it all on the side of the Dark Elves, they are the "bad guys" who just want there rightful home back. They might be warlike and what not, but they just want ulthuan back.

Is there any good fiction from this standpoint?

I remember reading the game story with the original Tie Fighter, and its spin on the Empire as the 'Order' to the rampant 'Chaos' in the galaxy.

War is usually written by the victorys, who portray themselves as the 'good' and the other side as the 'bad'.

[Saerain]

Yes, if not for the sadistic torture and sacrifice, they would be more antiheroes than villains. More Elric than Yyrkoon.

Nevertheless, they remain more justified in their kinslaying than the 'Dark Elves' of certain other settings. Or, at the very least, they have a more convincing dogma.

[Xurré]

So, my answer is that I like the Dark Elves if for no other reason than they are not allied with the Empire. It is killing the Asur in me.
If you need help with killing the Asur in you just give me a call... I'm always happy to lend a hand (holding a poisoned blade). :)


- Xurré

[Ichorbog]

Revealing outfits > all. ;)

[Thoden Firehammer]

If you'd read my post a little more carefully, you would've noticed that I mentioned it being a "traditional somewhat negative national stereotype" of Americans, not a description of the average American.

Although,

"Fundamentalist Christianity is on the rise among the electorate of the world's only superpower, right up to and including the President. If you believe the surveys, 45 percent of Americans, that's about 135 million people, believe the universe is less than ten thousand years old."

That's gotta count for something ;)

Please don't show me the numbers, i'd like to say in denial, atleast till we have another nuclear war.

[Thrakkesh]

I've always thought Dark Elves = Americans, prmiarily because I used to think of High Elves as British.

Haughty, arrogant, been around for a while, not quite the power they used to be Have a decadent streak they try not to talk about. (Hi there pleasure cults.) Gets in a lot of conflicts with 'allies' by frequently overstepping their bounds.

Etc, etc. Not like the British counterparts really come out smelling like roses.

Edit: To clarify, I more think of Dark Elves = Roman Empire and High Elves = Greek Empire these days, to be honest.

[Estebar]

I don't agree that America is 'highly sex-oriented'. We are extremely immature about it, however, like most things.. We must be the only nation on Earth that still giggles and gasps like eight year olds when we hear naughty words or see a nipple slip into view. We have issues. It's embarrassing. I meant more the Hollywood aspect of America. The image-conscious west coast Los Angeles lifestyle, and the selling of sex through music and advertising. Sure, everywhere does it, but stereotypically it all came from Hollywood and MTV. Plus, you have to remember why there was a "warbrobe malfunction" in the first place. ;)

But, anyway, back on-topic? Who can say they never liked the Batman villains? Or the James Bond villains? Or many of the villains from Superhero comics? Give the villains enough character and everyone will enjoy them, particularly if they have a good counterpart in a sort of "Good/Bad twin" way, as the Elves do.

[Saerain]

I've always thought Dark Elves = Americans, prmiarily because I used to think of High Elves as British.

Haughty, arrogant, been around for a while, not quite the power they used to be Have a decadent streak they try not to talk about. (Hi there pleasure cults.) Gets in a lot of conflicts with 'allies' by frequently overstepping their bounds.

Etc, etc. Not like the British counterparts really come out smelling like roses.

Edit: To clarify, I more think of Dark Elves = Roman Empire and High Elves = Greek Empire these days, to be honest.

We already have Albion as Britain, even geographically. It just has a while to form an empire, because the early Britons still hold it and the Holy Roman Empire is still strong.

It's tough to say the Asur are somehow British. Most empires have had histories similar to theirs, many of them more similar than that of the British.

From another perspective, like Tolkien's Aman and the Arthurian Legends' Avalon, Ulthuan takes the role of Atlantis and the dozens of similar myths (mostly out of Europe but also Central America and Asia Minor). Of course, Naggaroth doesn't seem to relate to any myths whatsoever that I can think of. If they were fond of spiders, like the Drow, I would say they drew loosely from Native American legends of their people being deceived and manipulated by the malicious spider-god Inktomi, in this case Malekith, but I've never noticed any spider iconography.

[Valythiir]

They're arrogant, hedonistic and cruel, just like me?

[Mogdin Wrathammer]

They're arrogant, hedonistic and cruel, just like me?



I think all of those aspects exist in everyone to some extent.

[Valythiir]

I think all of those aspects exist in everyone to some extent.
True, but most aren't likely to find them as delightfully enjoyable as I do.

[Onos]

Cold, dispassionate, calculating, heartless. What more could you want from a race? That's the way I generally like my heroes, I dislike Tolkien's little do good hobbits. I prefer a hero who is dark and does all for himself.

For those of you who have read the Malazan series by Steven Errikson (awesome fantasy series btw) I like "heroes" like Anomander Rake, Silchas Ruin. That is people who have no problems with killing those that stand in front of them, be they good or bad in order to achieve their goals.

[Gleipnir]

Ive allways hated the steriotype fantasy elf. Pale and mighty, beautiful and deadly. More a superhuman than anything else. They live forever too! Bollocks i say! What i like about the druchii is that they represent the single most horrid flaw and at the same time the greatest of desires buried deep in the high elf mentality. The desire to own, to indulge, to loose control. They are decadent, uncaring alien creatures who cares neither for the wellbeing of anyone but themselves.

A dark elf is a bloodthirsty predator, a creature so debased by its own desires that it cares for nothing but power and pleasure.

Gleipnir.

[Blaze]

Ive allways hated the steriotype fantasy elf. Pale and mighty, beautiful and deadly. More a superhuman than anything else. They live forever too! Bollocks i say! What i like about the druchii is that they represent the single most horrid flaw and at the same time the greatest of desires buried deep in the high elf mentality. The desire to own, to indulge, to loose control. They are decadent, uncaring alien creatures who cares neither for the wellbeing of anyone but themselves.

A dark elf is a bloodthirsty predator, a creature so debased by its own desires that it cares for nothing but power and pleasure.

Gleipnir.

Well said. I agree.
Just like the conflicted characters in movies are inevitably the most interesing ones, dark elves are cool because they are so obviously flawed.

Someone else was using LotR analogies so I will too.
I always found Aragorn a bit dull, both in the books and the movies. He was just too... good.
Now Boromir, thats an interesting charcter! He was human. Someone you can relate to.

The Druchii are the most awesome fantasy elves period.
Second are the Wood Elves of Warhammer. Those are old school fairies, the kind you don't want to mess with.
Third are High Elves. Arrogant, imperialistic and utterly alien in mindset. Not just perfect humans with pointy ears.

And this just further proves how Warhammer is superior when it comes to fantasy settings.
*nod*

[Mogdin Wrathammer]

My favorite Elf race was the Night Elves in WarCraft III. They suck in WoW, though.

WTB [Druid of the Claw beard] for Night Elf male character. Seriously...

[Gleipnir]

Well said. I agree.
Just like the conflicted characters in movies are inevitably the most interesing ones, dark elves are cool because they are so obviously flawed.

Someone else was using LotR analogies so I will too.
I always found Aragorn a bit dull, both in the books and the movies. He was just too... good.
Now Boromir, thats an interesting charcter! He was human. Someone you can relate to.

The Druchii are the most awesome fantasy elves period.
Second are the Wood Elves of Warhammer. Those are old school fairies, the kind you don't want to mess with.
Third are High Elves. Arrogant, imperialistic and utterly alien in mindset. Not just perfect humans with pointy ears.

And this just further proves how Warhammer is superior when it comes to fantasy settings.
*nod* ____________

Yeah the fact that even the so called *noble* asur only cares about themselves is a long step away from tolkiens version of the dogooders.

[Heno]

I quite liek the Villains that aren't evil just for evil's sake. Dark Elves have made a society where they can revel in the pleasures the High Elves deny themselves all the while trying to put a rightful king on the throne.

Sure it's a bit more messed up than that, but hey, the Dark Elves are messed up, and I like it! :D

Plus they seem to me a bit Dr Doom'ish, and that's got to be good.