Anyone actually like the disk?

[Zappy]

Does anyone think the disk looks even remotely good? I assume and hope the animations will be getting improvements, because it just looks silly to me now.

[Aqe]

It is iconic. Will probably feel weird at start but you get used to it.

[Zappy]

I feel more that it looks butt ugly and if they dont improve it, it will keep looking butt ugly.

[dutch_gamer]

I feel more that it looks butt ugly and if they dont improve it, it will keep looking butt ugly.

And why is it butt ugly? You don't get anyone to listen to you when you aren't being constructive about it.

[Azrayne2.0]

Yeah I'm really not a fan of it either. Might be ok as a mount, but it would just look ridiculous to zoom around on it 24/7, never touching the ground. Aesthetically I'm not a huge fan of it either.

Overall the disc is pretty much the reason I'm set on not playing a Magus, come release, unless every single other caster sucks horribly.

[Zappy]

And why is it butt ugly? You don't get anyone to listen to you when you aren't being constructive about it.
Its pretty obvious isnt it? They stand on a uimpressive looking round disk (witch they said was only a placeholder afaik) and they lean awkwardly towards the direction they wanna go and then they... slide.

Do you think it looks good?

[Zeetchmen]

The current disk weve seen is just a place-holder, the final disk will look much better and mutate with your magus :D

[Dudds]

I like the disk, I think it looks good and is fitting.

[Malvos]

The current disk weve seen is just a place-holder, the final disk will look much better and mutate with your magus :D

Got proof?

[Zeetchmen]

Got proof?

Place Holder Texture from the Mouth of Jeremy
http://www.warhammeronline.com/english/behindTheScenes/vidPhoneDiaries/windowopen/mar_2007_w00h000/view03_2007_march.html

[Ralzar]

Place Holder Texture from the Mouth of Jeremy
http://www.warhammeronline.com/english/behindTheScenes/vidPhoneDiaries/windowopen/mar_2007_w00h000/view03_2007_march.html

I don't think that's the disk we're seeing in other footage. If you look at the screenshots, I think the mabus disc is bigger there and doesn't have that yellow edge Jeremys placeholder has.

[tr1ckster]

I like the disk idea, except if i will be much taller than other classes and the enemy will target me easily...

[Perp]

I hope LOADS of people hate the disk and go play another class. I like playing the "minority" class who people don't fight often and generally have little idea how to fight them.

[Typhael]

Got proof?

Got proof that it'll stay the same? Honestly.

That said, I both love and hate the disk.

I love it because it's cool, and if I decide to roll a Magus, I'll enjoy flying about on such a neat gift from my god.

I hate it because there is no end of inane commentary about it. There's a disk, we don't know exactly what it'll look like, get over it.

[Nathar]

Not too high above ground, more spikes, more flames and I'll really like it. Currently it's a bit meh to me. I think the idea is lovely and Tzeentch without it would suck! Just do it justice and I'll love the thing!

[Ralzar]

Not too high above ground, more spikes, more flames and I'll really like it. Currently it's a bit meh to me. I think the idea is lovely and Tzeentch without it would suck! Just do it justice and I'll love the thing!

Yeah, have to agree. It's a bit "meh" at the moment, but add some flames underneath, some tentacles and/or claws and make it more organic and it'd be great.

[Malvos]

Got proof that it'll stay the same? Honestly.

Since I didn't make a statement like, "OMGZ your lieing, teh disc will always be the way it is." I don't I have to provide proof of anything. He, however, made a statement that sounded (as much as something can sound) like a fact. I simply asked for proof.

That said, the disk from current footage/screen shots doesn't look alot like the yellow starburst from the video blog. So the current may not be a complete placeholder although logic says like everything else in the game its going to evolve as the game gets nearer to completion.

[Enkmar]

I like it. I hope that the abilities that the Disc itself uses/casts have nice animations. I like seeing the Magus stand calmly atop the disc, or casually casting spells from on top of it, but I'd also like to see the disc do a little more than just float there.

Blocking or resist animations... I'd love to see the Magus bend his knees and bring the disc up to absorb the blow or spell. How sweet would it be if a Bright Wizard tosses a fireball at you and you lean back and absorb it into the disc, like Silver Surfer! Muahaha!

[spirit]

Well I imagine the disc will get more impressive as the magus gets higher ranked. Most of the magi we have seen are all low rank, mostly tier 1 and fresh. I mean even chosen armour looks fairly unimpressive at that stage.


I love the disc though, can't wait to make a magus alt.

[Zappy]

Yes, animate it like the silver surfer. Then I'll think its cool. :rolleyes:

[V'raneth]

The disc needs some work, and possibly a total rethinking in my opinion. Tzeentch discs are awesome. The one the Magus has is not. The idea that they can never get off it is fairly daft as well. The animations are pretty good though. At least as good as any of the other animations anyway.

[Axxar]

I think the disc is one of the things that really makes this career attractive to a lot of players.

[Zagok]

As long as it doesn't make me considerably taller or easily distinguishable in battle, I don't really care what it looks like. Functional is top priority but if some damn ironbreaker can easily identify me clear across the battlefield, than I'll be re-rolling quick.

[Zappy]

As long as it doesn't make me considerably taller or easily distinguishable in battle, I don't really care what it looks like. Functional is top priority but if some damn ironbreaker can easily identify me clear across the battlefield, than I'll be re-rolling quick.

Well, so far pretty much every class seem easily distiguishable.

[spirit]

As long as it doesn't make me considerably taller or easily distinguishable in battle, I don't really care what it looks like. Functional is top priority but if some damn ironbreaker can easily identify me clear across the battlefield, than I'll be re-rolling quick.

Mythic are aiming to make every class easily identifiable at a distance. It was one of their main goals. So yeah the ironbreaker will be able to easily identify you, but he'll be able to identify everyone else too, so it's no biggie.

The idea that they can never get off it is fairly daft as well.

Anyone who thinks of getting off the disc isn't worthy to play a magus anyway :p

[harrogath]

if they make the disc look like the TT one it will look godly, with spikey blade thingys all around it and its supposed to be bigger then the ones ive seen in screenshots

[Rowhin]

if they make the disc look like the TT one it will look godly, with spikey blade thingys all around it and its supposed to be bigger then the ones ive seen in screenshots

I'm hoping that the discs we've seen so far are Tier 1 discs. Let's hope for all spikey blady things to grow from the disc as we progress through the tiers.

btw: I DO like the disc ;)

[Zappy]

How does the disk look in the TT?

[Rowhin]

How does the disk look in the TT?

It looks like this (http://www.coolminiornot.com/163907) or like that (http://www.coolminiornot.com/158413) or somewhat similar, depending on which miniature it is and how you color it ;)

[Sporefries]

Without seeing how it'll turn out later on, I'm guessing it'll expand the model and not just the textures.

As it stands for Tier 1-2, I really don't mind. I kinda like being the oddball out to be honest

But seriously I'd love a quest to actually get the disk rather than "poof" <Welcome, Sporefries, you enter a land of evil, bearing your mark of Tzeentch and his disk -> "wait what disk... oh... oh look at that."

[Arijharn]

Yay I'm thread 'rezzing' a sort of fresh corpse!

Anyway, I think if the animations shown on the latest videos are the final finished ones, then I sorta fear for the game. I'm hoping they aren't finalised because to me they look rather stiff, especially the video entitled 'Hovering Fun' (http://au.media.pc.ign.com/media/748/748723/vids_1.html) they certainly don't look as fluid as WoW's for example, and I'm not sure you can argue that rigging and animating a model is an artistic style.

Of course, I can't really provide constructive criticism on something as vague as an opinion, but I showed my housemate and the first thing he observed was it's animations as well so I know it can't just be me.

[Ranti]

Yay I'm thread 'rezzing' a sort of fresh corpse!

Anyway, I think if the animations shown on the latest videos are the final finished ones, then I sorta fear for the game. I'm hoping they aren't finalised because to me they look rather stiff, especially the video entitled 'Hovering Fun' (http://au.media.pc.ign.com/media/748/748723/vids_1.html) they certainly don't look as fluid as WoW's for example, and I'm not sure you can argue that rigging and animating a model is an artistic style.

Of course, I can't really provide constructive criticism on something as vague as an opinion, but I showed my housemate and the first thing he observed was it's animations as well so I know it can't just be me.

Several things to point out.

1) The information, animation, and graphics we are receiving (those of us not in beta) is a couple of months old, possibly up to 6 months if not more old

2) the game is coming out in Q1 2008, that is 5-8 months away from shipment from today, this gives them 4-7 months of really hard development time left

so basically, i am thing the animation will improve. Furthermore, comparing a game that isn't finished to a game that is 3-4 years running is a little...um....not good.

In conclusion, i am saying don't worry to much

but you should voice your opinion...which you did



oh and on topic

1) i LOVE the idea of always being on the disk, it is very unique and class defining
2) i hope they add more leg animations top magus
3) I hope they really make the disk more ornate, much more organic, and definitively add some customization options, possibly even in the character creation page

the disk has a lot of potential, and even more critics it seems

[Razma]

They could have done so much more with the disc like using it as a pet which you can mount when needed and which you actually can send into battle and use as a magic amplifyer(sp?).Oh well,nothing you can do about that so late into dev.I sure hope the tier 4 disc will looks a lot better than what we were able to see till now because that just looked horrible.

[Arijharn]

Well artistically speaking I wonder if the animations and 'models' would be finished or yet to be finalised, it doesn't seem to be a good idea (although I'm just musing, I don't have industry experience of course) to finalise every model's animations in the last 2-3 months, other than if there are clear errors in the process.

[Gemini]

Heh, nothing is truely, absolutely finialized until they start printing the game onto discs, Wether or not the models will get more work, I would be very surprised if they don't all get alot more work. We are a long way from launch, after all. And, they gotta give the character artists something to do, eh?

[Utruf]

It would be nice if they made the magus fly abit more agressive on it, in the video it looked more like he had a hard enough time just standing on the thing. As someone said, they should be surfing more on it then trying to stand on a hovering plate.

[Thoden Firehammer]

They could have done so much more with the disc like using it as a pet which you can mount when needed and which you actually can send into battle and use as a magic amplifyer(sp?).Oh well,nothing you can do about that so late into dev.I sure hope the tier 4 disc will looks a lot better than what we were able to see till now because that just looked horrible.

This game is bound by it's IP , Lore is what made this game Lore is what will stay in this game.(they sdaly bent for genders, and reasons of the alliacne but that's acceptable, or else this wouldn't really be an MMO :P)

1. The Magus NEVER gets off his disk(I wouldn't mind if they let him though) but the disk is literaly bound to him.

2. Using it as a pet?....did i mention it's bound to him?

[Razma]

Now my knowledge of Tzeentch lore is limited(khorne 40k player here)but might you give me the source where its stated that the Magus is bound to the disc in a way that he can never get off it?I seriously doubt that.Its stated that the disc will rip the magus apart if it gets the chance but that doesnt mean he cant get off it.Its more or less bound to his will(to a smaller degree)so its quite thinkable that,having obtained the favor of his god and so enough strengh,he would be able to at least give some basic commands to it,minor demon or not.
Also bound doesnt mean physically connected(there might be some cases knowing Tzeentch but i doubt that he does this kind of mutation to every Magus,wouldnt be Tzeentch like eh).

Ah i might just as well be wrong so im happy if you prove me false with a source.

Besides that,as you already mentioned the lore gets bend as mythic wants already for the playability quite alot(matter of opinion but female priests of sigmar alone are a little much already imo).

[Gorrr]

Does anyone think the disk looks even remotely good? I assume and hope the animations will be getting improvements, because it just looks silly to me now.
I like it.

At least i wont have to see the same run animation like all other classes. =P

Plus it's sorta unique and pretty cool,and if it really transforms into something cooler at lvl 40,it's even better.

[Gemini]

Now my knowledge of Tzeentch lore is limited(khorne 40k player here)but might you give me the source where its stated that the Magus is bound to the disc in a way that he can never get off it?I seriously doubt that.Its stated that the disc will rip the magus apart if it gets the chance but that doesnt mean he cant get off it.Its more or less bound to his will(to a smaller degree)so its quite thinkable that,having obtained the favor of his god and so enough strengh,he would be able to at least give some basic commands to it,minor demon or not.
Also bound doesnt mean physically connected(there might be some cases knowing Tzeentch but i doubt that he does this kind of mutation to every Magus,wouldnt be Tzeentch like eh).



I don't have the link to the video currently, but I will try to find it. Paul states(and remember, he used to work for GW before he worked for Mythic) that the disc is a gift from Tzeentch, a demon taken out of the aether for the Magus to ride. It is still, however, a demon, and the magus barely controlls it. If his connection with it is broken, it will devour his soul.

Think of it this way. Your significant other gives you a present. Maybe you like it at first, but eventually you get tired of it, so you put it in that top shelf in your closet. The disc is that gift, but instead of your significant other giving it to you, a chaos god gave it to you. Getting off it would be rejecting Tzeentch's gift to you, it would be like the Chosen trying to take off his armor, and we all know how that ends for the Chosen. Maybe you could get away with it with your significant other, but Tzeentch is always watching.

"Your devoted to me, eh? You think so? Okay, here, take this powerful demon-disc, it will make you more powerful, so you can serve me better. But, to prove your devotion, you will never get off of it. Ever." Think of it as weeding out of the weaklings and those not truely devoted to the Raven God's will.

[Zacaris]

I havn't really taken the time to read the whole, thread, but yeah.

I don't know what the fuss is about. In any game, everything will change and develop as things go on, especially more so when the beta comes. If every beta person playing a chaos magus decides that the disk sucks, they will change it. However, if the majority don't then there's no point in changing it.

[dampunge]

just to clearfy the lore, i will write down the holy words from the Chaos army book about the dics of Tzeentch

Discs of Tzeentch

"the daemonic mounts of Tzeentch are known as discs. these bizarre creations are neither daemon nor construction, but the nightmarish blend of the both. coruscating with mystical force, Discs hover several feet above the ground, skimming gently fowards upon the winds of magic themselves. while the gibbering hordes of the Changing One leap and gambol along the ground the proud socerers of Tzeentch ( magus) drift above them on the foating Discs, raining magical fire upon their foes. The Discs of Tzeench themselves are not defenceless either, lashing out around themselves with bolts of magical lightning, or manifestiong whirling tentacles or ripping claws to slash at enemies who approach to close"

hope this will help some of you out

Cheers

-Dampunge

[Chzrm3]

I personally love it, just because things like this that significantly differentiate classes/races always add flavor without having to worry about actually jarring the game balance. No harm done, eh? That said...

The idea that they can never get off it is fairly daft as well.

I agree with this. It seems really odd that they're forced to always be on it, and I worry that after a while I'd want nothing more than to just have my magus hop off it and take a nice walk or something, stretch out his legs, y'know?

Has anything been said about how it functions as far as movement? I'm assuming it can't fly upwards, but can you make it so that it's got increased movement speed or something?

[Arcadox]

I actually plain love the disc. It looks good, and is so class-defining and unique, being a magus without one now would be a real bummer.

It's even better to know that the disc we've been seeing is a likely placeholder, and it gets cooler looking as you rank up.

I'm a bit iffy on the animations, but I'm sure mythic will come up with something good. If it weren't for high elves being much more appealing to me, I'd jump at the chance to be a magus.

[Immortal_Spazbite]

I really hate the disc! :confused:
I think it looks more than strange, especially when you see videos of the magus hovering down stairs, jumping over hedges and so on. I´d have to agree it is something very special and iconic. However it would not be needed in an Warhammer Roleplay sense. Of course there are magic-users with discs in the chaos-tabletop army, but within all the battles I have fought with my chaos armys or against other chaos armys I have yet to see 1 disc...

What also concerns me is: How will they manage mounts for the magus? I mean, he won´t be sitting on a horse, and the horse standing on the disc, will he? Maybe the magus will be using the flying chaos rays (I don´t remember the exact english name) as a means for traveling with a "mount".

my 2 cents

[Psycojester]

If i remember properly the Chaos Manta are screamers. Personally i'd like to see the disc bubble and mutate into something more demonic when the Magus chooses to become "mounted" and then subside into its more passive state when he "dismounts"

[Murmuur]

Im thinking the disc we've seen now is like a lowbie disc. Much like the way races change physically as they advance(Dwarves beards, Orcs size), the disc would also advance in its visuals as we advance in levels, becoming more organic, spiky, and cool.

[Ojike]

Well i must say that when i started to look at the characters in this game i didn't like the look of the disc. But now i think it's kinda cool, it's a unique thing with this disc really hope the videos and such is just a placeholder/lowbie disc.

Will be a hard choice later when im going to choose between a Choppa, Magus, Marauder or Dark Elf classes.

[Zakavar]

I like it, I just hope there are more animations to it, the disk AND the magus himself. I hate those frozen legs in those casting animations!

[jkdfhk]

It would be cool if you could get a finishsing move to decapitate an enemy with the spikey disc of doom!

[Syr]

I don't like the idea of a disc on my character at all times, but I do think the chaos army will look awsome with magus floating around in it. I like that the magus actually looks intimidating on the disc, unlike the bright wizard and many casters in games :) I'll give it a chance, the disc might grow on me.

For RVR it might be a minus if the magus is taller than everyone and sticks out because of the disc, for primary target reasons :o

[Gemini]

For RVR it might be a minus if the magus is taller than everyone and sticks out because of the disc, for primary target reasons :o


They'll be behind the massive, hulking Chosen and the tough-as-nails Black Orc who will grow to 9 feet tall end game. I'm pretty sure being a foot off the ground won't be too much of a problem.

[Fluks]

I think the disc should be alot closer to the ground, anyone else agree?

[VeriusCarth]

I don't know if it'll hold true, but from the looks of some of the videos, it seems that the disc settles to ground-level (or close) when not moving, so it probably won't be much of a problem while you're standing around flinging spells.

[Rerisen]

I think the disc should be alot closer to the ground, anyone else agree?

I think it's height is intentional in order to make him easily identified on the field of battle or help create the 'iconic' look they want for all classes.

It just needs to get some cool abilities because right now it might actually be a negative since the Magus is already a squishy class that people will like to target first and floating 12 feet in the air is like having a giant pointing arrow over your head saying, "Here I am, come kill me."

[Zappy]

What also concerns me is: How will they manage mounts for the magus?
Rocket engines monted on the disk. Now THAT would be awesome. :)

I think we'll see alot of improvements to it, I just wonder what.

[logicalmayhem]

when they talk about the disk i like it but in game it dosnt look like "a mutated shark just barly kept under the magu's control"

if it was this like chayos thing that constantly mutated and looked cool and hovered and attacked people who came close thats cool

riding on a pain tin lid isnt lol :P

[Borluc]

*sigh*

Why do people always criticize new ideas? The magus isn't supposed to run around like other characters. He is bound to the disc and it to him. What do you want him to do? Push off with one leg like a skateboard?

Personally, I think its a cool feature that sets the class apart.

[Zappy]

*sigh*

Why do people always criticize new ideas? The magus isn't supposed to run around like other characters. He is bound to the disc and it to him. What do you want him to do? Push off with one leg like a skateboard?

Personally, I think its a cool feature that sets the class apart.
How about not looking lame. What makes you think new things are good? New things actually have to be good to be good in my book.

Hopefully, when the improvements come, you'll see what I mean.

[SinnersDoom]

Why do people complain so much. No the disc doesn't look super bad right now:
1. Early Beta placeholder art
2. Lower level characters.

Did you people roll a character in WOW and then that the starter sword wasnt epic level?

My guess is that the disc will be customizable with trophies and such like warriors can do with skulls and medals etc.. So you can add your precious spikes or tentacles and stuff. It will probably also be the characteristic that changes with the caster level (like orcs that get bigger and dwarves get longer beards)

[Grimfell Gromgear]

Why do people complain so much. No the disc doesn't look super bad right now:
1. Early Beta placeholder art
2. Lower level characters.

Did you people roll a character in WOW and then that the starter sword wasnt epic level?

My guess is that the disc will be customizable with trophies and such like warriors can do with skulls and medals etc.. So you can add your precious spikes or tentacles and stuff. It will probably also be the characteristic that changes with the caster level (like orcs that get bigger and dwarves get longer beards)

I'd like to raise my hand for complaining about subligars in FF XI.

Stuff needs to look bad at low levels so you're happy to be rid of it though.

[Warsaw]

So all our newbie equipment should look ugly? riiiight... It should look good. The higher level stuff just needs to look way cooler. The disc idea itself is a cool but I don't think it looks polished yet along with a lot of other chaos stuff. I think once elves start get been released and they start showing more chaos stuff into of orcs and dwarves we will see cooler disks and what not.

I really hope newbie equipment looks good anyway. I love rolling low level characters for some reason. It's always been the higher I've got in a game the worse the equipment looks for me.

[SinnersDoom]

So all our newbie equipment should look ugly? riiiight... It should look good. The higher level stuff just needs to look way cooler.

It will look better when the game goes live. But how do you improve on what these people want. At epic level the magus disc is gonna be the size of a monster truck tire covered in spikes and tentacles while the magus does back flips doing barrel rolls.

[Dasquigman]

Well I like the disc idea and hopefully you can change it after a while so it doesn't get old after a while

[Eliphas-WorldBearer]

I think the disk is a great idea its a brilliant obstacle for the foolish dwarfs while you blow them up with your ruinous powers...

[Zeno]

I hope LOADS of people hate the disk and go play another class. I like playing the "minority" class who people don't fight often and generally have little idea how to fight them.

I'm with you on this one.

Personally, i love the disk. Very refreshing idea! And i don't mind sticking out on the battlefield. Let them come and be burned by my fire.

[Kevinskewl]

I think it's pretty ugly too in its current state. Either make it look better or make it some magus ability to maybe pull out the disk and increase run speed temporarily for x%.

[CHOP]

I like the fact that you might be able to flip on it

http://www.warhammeronline.com/english/behindTheScenes/vidPhoneDiaries/windowopen/april_2007_d0ntfindm33/view15_2007_april.html

[Adophnil]

I like (and think you guys should all like) the fact that the disc has a point blank, melee range, Area Of Affect spell that damages everyone attacking the magus. That's just astronomically good as a spellcaster.

[Throwhemon]

ok, regadless if the disk's concept is silly it is a symbol of Tzeentch's magic and because of that mythic gave it to the magical dps class.

and for proof that the magus should have the disk heres a pic.
http://us.games-workshop.com/games/warhammer/hordesofchaos/catalog/tzeentch_lord.htm

the figure looks alot like the concept art of the end-tier magus.

[Forse]

I don't have a problem with the disc. I like discs of tzeentch, and I don't think it looks that bad, even though it's low level.

The only thing that bugs me is that the magus will not be able to get off it. Being glued to it is the only downside. Partially for roleplaying reasons.

"Hey, get down here and take a look at this mark on the ground.. what do you think it is"?

"Err.. I can't. I'm magically glued to this thing"!

[Romple-WHA]

I agree with this. It seems really odd that they're forced to always be on it, and I worry that after a while I'd want nothing more than to just have my magus hop off it and take a nice walk or something, stretch out his legs, y'know?



The magus and disc are bound to each other. So it's not odd that they must always be on it. Once they summon a disk it's pretty much part of them.... You don't take off your feet every time you stop moving do you? disk = new feet

Another reason is that the disk in the world in which it got sucked out of is akin to a ravenous bloodthirsty shark. The disk is just the form it takes in this world. but it still has the same killer tendencies. The Magus controls it, but just barely. Were he to get off the disk chances are the disk would make him its next meal.

So far in all different videos there's only been one disk model. But it IS very early and I'm confident that Mythic has cooler models to use as the magus moves up in ranks.

I like the disk so far. It doesn't feel goofy to me when you actually play it. You just glide along like any good spellcaster should. Walking is for noobies and bright wizards like me.

[sithborn]

I like the disk. For one it makes the Magus distinct like a chosen and his armor. I have high hopes for the graphics on the finished disk and how it can evolve with you. For me personaly I don't care if he can never get off the disk. It's just not important to me if he hovers or walks around. He still gets around all the same. Also if he draws out his power from the disk If i were him i'd never get off but i guess i just love power alot lol.

[silex]

Overall, I quite like it. I was hoping that it would play a bigger part into how the Magus actually plays, but that doesn't seen to be the case so far. Oh well.

I'm hoping this is one of the things that "grows" with your character as you become stronger and stronger.

[Jamesmor]

I've also got to say that I like the disk, however, my wife doesn't...

[Rerisen]

I've also got to say that I like the disk, however, my wife doesn't...

You just need a convertible disc, maybe with some fins on back. Or maybe offer her a ride. Can't knock it unless you've tried it type thing. :)

[Josue]

If i remember properly the Chaos Manta are screamers. Personally i'd like to see the disc bubble and mutate into something more demonic when the Magus chooses to become "mounted" and then subside into its more passive state when he "dismounts"

I really like this idea.

[Romple-WHA]

I've also got to say that I like the disk, however, my wife doesn't...

Sounds like you guys need counseling

[Morin]

I really love the disc and thats what will most probably make me roll one some time...but yet i was never a fan of the DoT classes even thought they end up winning in the end :)

[Jamesmor]

Sounds like you guys need counseling

meh, she compares everything to WoW as it's her first MMO, and the first game she's really gotten into (thank god I've finally gotten her into gaming, life was hard sometimes with "wife aggro")

she thinks the whole game is too dark/grungy, but time will tell.

I just hope the sys reqs aren't too steep for her computer, as it's older, and kind of a p.o.s.

[Khazghoul]

I think it needs to hover off the ground more. It looks kinda silly at its current height. Other than that, I think the Magus looks stupid. I have seen some awesome minitures that look far better than what they have been showing us. I think that Chaos characters should have more mutations as they level like the Orcs grow larger.

[Kevinor]

The current model doesn't look or move that well in my opinion. I would probably rather the Magus have the disk as their mount and make it prettier; and just let them walk like every other Class. It seems kind of... gimmicky, currently.

[Jamesmor]

The current model doesn't look or move that well in my opinion. I would probably rather the Magus have the disk as their mount and make it prettier; and just let them walk like every other Class. It seems kind of... gimmicky, currently.

they said that was just a placeholder graphic, my only worry about the disk is this:

If I'm 3 feet taller than everyone else on my side, that makes me REALLY easy to target, doesn't it?

[Malvos]

I think it needs to hover off the ground more. It looks kinda silly at its current height. Other than that, I think the Magus looks stupid. I have seen some awesome minitures that look far better than what they have been showing us. I think that Chaos characters should have more mutations as they level like the Orcs grow larger.

Your the first person I've seen that wants the disc HIGHER.

[Kevinor]

In fact; the place-holder is not the current graphic for the disk. Whether or not it's a final version; I doubt it. I would imagine it's pretty close but who knows?

[Gemini]

they said that was just a placeholder graphic, my only worry about the disk is this:

If I'm 3 feet taller than everyone else on my side, that makes me REALLY easy to target, doesn't it?

You're behind huge, burly Chosen incased in huge armor and behind Black Orcs that grow up to 9 feet tall. I think you'll be okay.

[Tyron]

firstly, about the whole 'i want 2 walk thing', not happenin, chaos' catchphrase is power demands sacrafice. think about it chaos god's aren't known 4 forgiveness or fair deals u want a disc they want somethin in return: ur legs and ur freewill.

about the whole 3 feet taller thing as gemini said ur standin next 2 nine feet tall orcs/chosen. Also compare urself in ur black robes and general dark but tall apearence 2 the BRIGHT wizards, orange and red robes and fire shootin out of his head. besides the object of the game is NOT hide and seek it's seek and destroy.

About the look, the whole game is backed by one of the biggest art and hobbiest companies in the world, meaning alot of TALENTED artists. However they also have alot of gd ADVERTISERS that would slap them-selves with a wet Gnoblar if they showed u all the best bits of the game, even harder 2 show the stuff from the END-GAME. Just trust the artists who have produced some of the best 3D art of the generation.

Practicallity. i doubt the production team is gonna give the Magus a 'tin can lid'. they know that this is esentially a deamon bound 2 ur will and will probally make gd of it. think speed increase, spell protection/counters (what Tzeentch is famed for ;) ) and close combat damgaing auras as previously stated. They probaly want 2 make a size matters thing with it Disc size= Lvl

'not all ideas r gd ideas' correct, but in the cut-throat gaming industry all gd games have new ideas.

And finally the disc is only PART of the Magus, their could ( and this is just me thinkin out loud) be a feature where if u don't like the disc, fine u can concentrate on ur magus spellcasting power, 'Mana' efficency, etc. If u like the disc, then u can concentrate on speed increases, increases 2 the damagings aura's range and damage or 2 some of it's defensive abilities.

[Bargad]

I agree with Tyron. The entire fact about Chaos, is they're are crazy! Slightly less-so in Tzzentch's case. In the Chosen's Description, it says that even these big burly Northmen have tricks up their sleeves.
The Discs are Demons, virtually a less animate-form of the Screamers. The Magus is damn lucky to have one, and he probably will never want to touch the ground again.

[Fluks]

I still think that the disc should be lowered more closely to the ground :p Making it look less like "oh look at me and my shiny disc". But I guess the magus is all about that.

[Tyron]

I still think that the disc should be lowered more closely to the ground :p Making it look less like "oh look at me and my shiny disc". But I guess the magus is all about that.

every1 on the order side is like that

[Malerius]

i hate the disk i like the class, but the disk just take movility from the char itself.

[Gorrr]

I think it's pretty ugly too in its current state. Either make it look better or make it some magus ability to maybe pull out the disk and increase run speed temporarily for x%.
ahahahaha i can almost imagine a guy with 3eyes,long robes and maybe some armor sprinting and then throwing the disc in front of him and jumping on it like a surfer >_<

Seriosly,i have nothing against the disc in it's current state.I think it actually looks nice ...compared to ol' walking/running animations.

[Tyron]

if u DON'T like the current disc's look it may help 2 send in fan art