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Rakthen
07-26-2007, 02:27 PM
I was thinking of switching over to Order from Destruction because i'll end up playing by my self and after the game goes live it'll be the side with more people... But thats not what this is about!
I read a bit on Dark Elves and now I'm doing some reading on High Elves. And while we know that Dark Elves warship Kaine and Slaanesh, The Empire has Sigmar, and Orcs Gork and Mork. What does High Elves have? (and to a lesser extent what about dwarfs though i wonder about High Elves more.) I started wondering when i read about the Fires the burned the Dark Elf king. And while the Dark Elves say that the fire was tampered with, the thing i read said that the High Elf god knew the evil in his heart and "smote" him for it. I tryed to search but I couldn't find anything on it.
Thoden Firehammer
07-26-2007, 02:30 PM
I was thinking of switching over to Order from Destruction because i'll end up playing by my self and after the game goes live it'll be the side with more people... But thats not what this is about!
I read a bit on Dark Elves and now I'm doing some reading on High Elves. And while we know that Dark Elves warship Kaine and Slaanesh, The Empire has Sigmar, and Orcs Gork and Mork. What does High Elves have? (and to a lesser extent what about dwarfs though i wonder about High Elves more.) I started wondering when i read about the Fires the burned the Dark Elf king. And while the Dark Elves say that the fire was tampered with, the thing i read said that the High Elf god knew the evil in his heart and "smote" him for it. I tryed to search but I couldn't find anything on it.
They worshop Khaine as well, but alow other gods if I remember i'm a Dwarf fan so I don't know much on their religion :P
Rakthen
07-26-2007, 02:33 PM
Ah, alright. Thanks very much my good person!
Willstar
07-26-2007, 02:36 PM
They have Asuryan, Vaul, Khaine, ( though they see their religion differently than the dark elves ) Isha, and a few others of whom I can't remember the names at the moment. Asuryan is like 'the lead god' if I remember correctly.
Vaul is the god of... whatever. His priests forge great magical weapons, you figure it out.
Kaela Mensha Khaine ( if that's even how you spell it ) the bloody handed god of death.
Isha : Goddess of healing, I believe?
Vaeronthar
07-26-2007, 02:39 PM
http://www.asur.org.uk/ulthuan/religion.htm
This is all you need, now read on.
It was the flames of Asuryan( the eternal flame) that burnt Malekith, all Phoenix Kings must pass through them. The flame is located at the shrine of Asuryan and guarded by Phoenix Guard.
wellsy
07-27-2007, 12:54 AM
Asuryan - King of the Elven Gods
Khaine - Elven God of War
Isha - Elven Goddess of the Harvest
Hoeth - Elven God of Wisdom and Knowledge
Vaul - Elven God of the Forge
Kurnous - Elven God of the Hunt
Lileath - Elven Goddess of Dreams and Fortune
Mathlann - Elven God of Storms
Morai-Heg - Elven Goddess of Souls
Torothal - Elven Goddess of Rain and Rivers
Loec - Elven God of the Night and Shadows
There are two more (you can find the full list here (http://www.asur.org.uk/ulthuan/religion.htm). The Gods listed in bold type are the major Gods and Goddesses. The others are relatively minor.
Mogdin Wrathammer
07-30-2007, 01:09 PM
Whatever it is, its name probably has lots of commas and "sh" sounds, and grants eternal life and stereotypical perfection to its followers.
Estebar
07-30-2007, 01:32 PM
Here's an extract you might find interesting, explaining Elven attitude towards religion:
My continued research into the Magisters' records has proven fruitful! As I have shown previously in my investigations, when humans give themselves over to the worship of Chaos, in a very short space of time their own motivations and desires seem to be subsumed by the motivations and desires of the Chaos God they worship. So how is it these 'Dark' Elves have not been consumed by Chaos as well? They are, after all, a cruel people, saturated with magic and openly worshipping Chaos, all while living in close proximity to the Northern Wastes. One would therefore be forgiven for assuming that their race would be a prime feeding ground for the Daemon Gods.
Yet the truth is that the people of Naggaroth do not consider themselves to be the slaves of Chaos, and they are right. So how have they remained so independent of the active dominion of the Chaos Gods?
This self-same question seems to have bothered Volans also, and he tries to address them further on in his dissertation:
"...and so it was the collapse of this polar 'Gateway', or, at least, so the Asur maintain, that led to the creation of the world as it is today. The vast area of dimensional instability created by its collapse, enabled many of the strange entities that lived within the Realm of Chaos to manifest themselves to some degree or other upon the physical plane. These entities were then free to pursue their incomprehensible whims and compulsions with the mortal inhabitants of our own world.
"The most ancient annals from Ulthuan described how the majority of these entities were small, wild things - creatures we might now recognise as the various elementals, sprites, fairies, imps, dryads and sylphs (to name but a few), of the 'natural' world. Yet there were also other larger and more powerful beings that began to manifest themselves with the collapse of the Old Slann's gateways. These large entities, being creatures of thought and magic, had no physical shape of their own, and often took on forms that were dictated by the conscious and subconscious fears, beliefs and expectations of the mortals they had come to prey upon.
"In this way, the simple deities that the eldar races had developed for themselves across millennia of evolution, suddenly stoppd being mere concepts or items of faith, and became actual beings wirh immense power and independent identity - they truly were the first daemons, gods and angels of the Empyrean.
"But the Asur have never made good servants. Long before the collapse of the Slaan's Gateway, the Asur already had a strong understanding of magic and the basic laws governing how Chaos interacted with matter and intelligence. This knowledge allowed them to control many of the lesser Chaos entities, and form a more symbiotic relationship with some of the more ordered great entities. Without even realising what they were doing, the Asur began to impose their will and expectations onto some of these greater entities, forging them into benign deities that personified various aspects of the Asur's ideals, hopes and aspirations.
"It was Aenarion, called The Defender, who first took this a step further by allowing the most powerful of the Asur's newly manifested gods, Asuryan, to use him as a vessel for His power. In a sense, Aenarion became a kind of Chaos Champion, although, because his god was (amongst other things) a manifestation of Asur dignity, culture and self-belief, he fought against the forces of Chaos Unbounded rather than with them. Yet despite his success, Aenarion went too far, and was eventually consumed by the drives that made up the deity that possessed him.
"It did not matter that Asuryan personified all that was good and beautiful about the Asur as a race, He was still a god, and just as with the Gods of Chaos and their Champions, eventually His Purpose subsumed the will of His vessel. In time, Aenarion was consumed by feelings of duty towards his people, taking all their sorrows onto himself, and, with personal tragedy stacking atop racial murder, he eventually walked the path to oblivion. He drew the sword of Khaine, opening himself up to become a vessel for the war-god's power and will as well as Asuryan's. No mortal frame, however mighty, was designed to contain the conflicted spirits of two opposing deities. Not even Aenarion.
"Once the Chaos threat had been nullified and Aenarion had forevermore left the pages of Asur history, the people of Ulthuan chose to never again allow themselves to be possessed by their gods in the way that their first Phoenix King had done. To this day, though all the Elven Kindreds venerate and respect their individual gods, they do not dedicate themselves body and soul to their service - instead they treat and use all deities as sacred tools and icons to further their aims."
Pendrako
07-30-2007, 02:02 PM
Here's an extract you might find interesting, explaining Elven attitude towards religion:
That's a fantastic bit of text. Really puts things into the right perspective.
Krulgar Neckripper
07-30-2007, 02:18 PM
Why GW make all the Gods the same but then they try and disdance 40k from Fantasy...Silly GW xD
Nerothos
07-30-2007, 08:58 PM
And that, my friends, is why High Elves (particularly Aenarion) are much cooler than you think. 8)
Saerain
07-30-2007, 11:01 PM
Whatever it is, its name probably has lots of commas and "sh" sounds, and grants eternal life and stereotypical perfection to its followers. A comma in a name?
wellsy
07-30-2007, 11:31 PM
I think he was after "apostrophes".
And that is an awesome find Estebar.
Mogdin Wrathammer
07-31-2007, 08:06 AM
I think he was after "apostrophes".
And that is an awesome find Estebar.
Yeah, bleh, that one.
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