New on Warhammer Lore

[Ritalin]

Hi there, I'm kinda new to the Warhammer lore and I just had some questions I hope some may be able to awnser...

Firstly, I have the game Dawn of War, is this part of the Warhammer lore? Reason I ask is because I thought this game was gonna have space marines and elders as well. . Or are the Space Marines part of the Empire?

Also, in the game they had robots and guns and it was future based right? Is Warhammer Online set back in the past before this happened or something?

One more thing, I was trying to find some videos on Youtube of some people playing the Tabletop game, I'd really like to see how its played and what they do but I couldn't find any videos on it, only poeple showing off their figures but not actually playing the game. If someone could explain or show me a clip of how they fight in the table top would be great.

Forgive me if my spelling isnt the best, I just woke up and its still early morning here.

Thanks.

[Tatile]

Warhammer Age of Reckoning is Warhammer Fantasy. Dawn of War is Warhammer 40,000. One has bows and arrows, the other lazor guns.

The two system are seperate, yet intertwined a bit. It's kind of complicated due to old fluff and licencing issues over the years. Fantasy doesn't really take place in the past of 40k, or in the smae timeline, I think. It may be a parrallel dimension and Chaos is the linking factor, I don't know really.

I don't think there are going to be many videos of the TT because most decent sized game can take about an hour. The easiest thing would be to find a place where people play the game (like a hobby club or a Games Workshop store) and just... hang out.

[Ritalin]

Alright, but what would be the basics.. Like, I'm assuming its a turn based table top, but do you roll dice? How do you attack someone else and how do you decide how much dmg you do or if you hit or miss them?

[Guardian]

Warhammer Fantasy is a turn-based stategy game. Every model has it's own stats and when two units fight you use dice combined with the stats of the models to determine the outcome. If your models has Weapon Skill 4 and the enemy has the same you'll hit him on a roll of 4+ with a normal 6 sided dice for example. All damage deal 1 Wound unless they have a special rule like Deals D6 damage or Killingblow. Most models have 1 Wound.

I doubt you'll find any youtube videos since a game usually takes over an hour :p

[Cave_Troll]

The two system are seperate, yet intertwined a bit. It's kind of complicated due to old fluff and licencing issues over the years. Fantasy doesn't really take place in the past of 40k, or in the smae timeline, I think. It may be a parrallel dimension and Chaos is the linking factor, I don't know really.


At one time the were intertwined, you could even have Chaos with 40K weapons. As the Warp was timeless, so you could enter in the future and exit when ever. Basically like the Nexus from Star Trek Generations.

If I remember it was also stated that the old one's hid the Warhammer Fantasy planet in the warp.

I am pretty sure GW has clearly stated there is no connection to the fantasy and 40K universes now, except for Chaos.

[Ritalin]

Wow.. so this stuff goes pretty deep.. Like there's a more than just a basic story.. there's like a whole history...

So space marines are like the empire in the future? What happened to the High elves? They wernt in Dawn of War, nor were the dwarfs or Dark Elves. Did the dwarfs finally die out? I know briefly that they were fighting to survive or something.

So does Warhammer Age of Reckoning follow the lore at all? Like Game workshops lore that they've put together cuz this game seems completly different...

[Dougal Meatshanks]

40k isn't the future of Warhammer Fantasy. 40k is the future of OUR universe. It has Earth and the milky way in it along with Mars etc. WF is not set on Earth, it's set on a planet we don't know the location of in a multiverse we can't see.

The Warhamer world used to be a planet IN the 40k galaxy but they dropped that line. Now the two are seperate entities.

Age of Reckoning is set in an alternate time line of Warhammer. The history is pretty much identical it's just the PRESENT that's different. The last big battle to happen in Warhammer didn't happen in WAR, instead we have the Age of Reckoning timeline as seen in the game.

Some small things are different (like for instance that Karak Eight Peaks in Warhammer has been controlled by Orcs for hundreds if not thousands of years, whilst in WAR it was only recently overrun).

A brief over view of the Warhammer world's history is in this thread:
http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/showthread.php?t=156448

I haven't finished it yet, it's still about 7000 years before the present time.

Dougal

[Tatile]

Wow.. so this stuff goes pretty deep.. Like there's a more than just a basic story.. there's like a whole history...

So space marines are like the empire in the future? What happened to the High elves? They wernt in Dawn of War, nor were the dwarfs or Dark Elves. Did the dwarfs finally die out? I know briefly that they were fighting to survive or something.

So does Warhammer Age of Reckoning follow the lore at all? Like Game workshops lore that they've put together cuz this game seems completly different...

40k and Fantasy are seperate. Space Marines and the Imperium are not the Empire, they're just similar. The Dwarfs didn't 'die out' because they never existed (Squats are no longer 'canon'). The Eldar and the Elves are similar, but they are not the same. There's no past or future, 40k and Fantasy exist parallel to each other, like a green apple and a red apple seperated by a sheet of glass. Similar, but not the same and capable of meeting.

WAR follows some lore, but due to the nuances of gaming (and the 'need' for factions) the lore has been tweaked. It's not 'completely' different I don't think, it's just cleaner and has less overall fighting.

The TT is played with Dice (d6's) and tape measures. The stats you find in WAR are based on the stat lines for the TT models. For example, you have 70 Peasant Bowman in you Bretonnian army (I know a guy who does acutally have this, he's a longbowman) and you want all of the to shoot the idiot character unit charging the field. You need to grab 70 six-sided dice and roll them. It gets complicated from their based on Strength vs. Toughness and what-not, but that's the basics.

[Ritalin]

Alright, thanks alot for clearing that up. . . And thanks alot for that link.