Analysis of WP RvR

[Vikingkingq]

So, having looked at the new RvR video, and then finding a different version that was a bit easier to see, I thought I'd write up a few thoughts on how the Warrior Priest fared in RvR.

- Overall DPS was somewhat lower than that of Melee Tanks, but not by so much that the Warrior Priest was unable to kil lthings.

- Wave of Righteousness (the big glowing circle at his feet) will be one of the most-used Warrior Priest spells for RvR, combining healing and dps in one AOE package that's perfect for bottle-necks, flag/objective fights, etc.

- I believe the gold glowing outlines around the icon represent Righteous Fury, while the green bar to the right seems to be Renown.

- Target choice will be important: the Warrior Priest did much better attacking Shamans and Sorcerers than he did attacking Black Orcs.

- Putting down CC in the form of Weight of Guilt will be important, as running enemies can lead you back to their friends.

- Heals made when the Warrior Priest has plenty of Righteous Fury are really good, ranging from 800-2300 Health. Healing is made easier by the fact that you can see the health bars of your team on your UI, and fellow Order players not on your team by looking at their names.

- RvR loot looks rather easy to deal with - it just pops up and you choose something, something, or pass.

- Healing on the run and heals over time helps a lot with survivability. At one point, the Warrior Priest is being chased by about 5-6 enemies and survives for a long time just by healing himself.

Any other thoughts?

[maraxus94]

Let me head off the incoming people that will scream that this is pointless because the abilities will not be the same at launch. Who cares? Give us our speculation.
Other than that I would say good write-up. Very nice summary and helps get a further defined idea of what the WP does. Nice to see the loot system.

[SoD]

Warrior priest does lower damage then a tank? =( Darn, that's really stupid. Why can Shamans and Zealots deal much more damage than tanks? =S

[Kermichil]

Warrior priest does lower damage then a tank? =( Darn, that's really stupid. Why can Shamans and Zealots deal much more damage than tanks? =S

Well my first thought is that Shamans and Zealots can do more damage than the WP because they are squishies. They make up for their lower survivability by higher damage...the same reason that squishies in general do more damage than tanks in general.

[SoD]

Well my first thought is that Shamans and Zealots can do more damage than the WP because they are squishies. They make up for their lower survivability by higher damage...the same reason that squishies in general do more damage than tanks in general.

They are squishies because they are ranged while WP is melee, so obviously he should have a better survivabilty. Just like a Choppa compared to Magus. And ththeir damage is also ueffected by armor

[Thoden Firehammer]

They are squishies because they are ranged while WP is melee, so obviously he should have a better survivabilty. Just like a Choppa compared to Magus. And ththeir damage is also ueffected by armor

Yes but you're forgetting that fact that you're in stronger armor than they, and you have more health

[Krulltak]

Sounds excellent. Just what I wanted the Warrior Pries to be.

[Reaper]

can you link the WP video please? As well as any other vids (I saw the zealot one, but other people might not have)

[Crazy ol' dude]

can you link the WP video please? As well as any other vids (I saw the zealot one, but other people might not have)
it's on front page :) links to vids -> http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17162

WP RvR vid
(http://war.curse.com/videos/details/637/)

[heavyhebrew]

I think Reaper was asking Vikingkingq for a link to the better quality one rather than the one on the Homepage.

I would like to see that one as well, even if it is a download instead of stream.

[Vikingkingq]

can you link the WP video please? As well as any other vids (I saw the zealot one, but other people might not have)

http://www.jeuxvideo.tv/warhammer-online-age-of-reckoning-video-42430.html

- Slightly better quality.

[Engelfaust]

I noticed the wp in the video was focusing largely on healing, could it have been possible he was using healing based moves and moral abilities? His heals looked very nice, I think he could have done some nuke damage of his own should he have focused everything on it.

I would disagree with the statement that a warrior priest has less damage potential than the other support classes, armor and health are given to melee classes for that reason alone, they need to live long enough to get within range of their targets. I wouldn't give up hope for high wp damage yet.

[Emurar]

Sounds excellent. Just what I wanted the Warrior Priest to be.

Completely agreed.

[heavyhebrew]

He did some serious hurt on the Magus. He also held his own quit well with a Choppa. He only ran into trouble when he chased into a big group and that always spells pain.

He focused more on objectives and then switched to majority healing as his team got spread out on the beach. That Engineer was doing some wicked bad damage as well, I assumed that was the Engineer doing the mass explosions.
And I never will get tired of the BW breath attack.

Vikingkingq, I will download that video and see if I can't recode for better clarity and maybe, just maybe, get a better view on the tooltips.

[Tremos]

Warrior priest does lower damage then a tank? =( Darn, that's really stupid.

WP won't be doing less damage/dps then a tank with a shield. From all the footage i've seen I have yet to see a tank with a shield do as much as a WP. WP should be doing more damage anyways because he's using a 2hander.

Why can Shamans and Zealots deal much more damage than tanks? =S

Balance.

[Jonas]

Frankly, we have no idea how the damage of any of the healers compares with any of the tanks on the beta servers, which according to certain admins who beta test are not the same as what is being shown at demos.

[Lorik]

Yeah, dmg output and receiving is all askew right now - but the demos are probably the closest thing to beta we have right now.

However, I must say - WarPriest (or its DE counterpart) are going to be the most fun class for my type of personality - (old healers from WoW who were bored stiff but still wanted to heal)

[Vikingkingq]

He did some serious hurt on the Magus. He also held his own quit well with a Choppa. He only ran into trouble when he chased into a big group and that always spells pain.

He focused more on objectives and then switched to majority healing as his team got spread out on the beach. That Engineer was doing some wicked bad damage as well, I assumed that was the Engineer doing the mass explosions.
And I never will get tired of the BW breath attack.

Vikingkingq, I will download that video and see if I can't recode for better clarity and maybe, just maybe, get a better view on the tooltips.

He actually swung back and forth between healing and hammering quite a bit.

Thanks. Now, if only I can get someone to translate them from the German...

[balls055]

i would say the person playign the warrior priest did a good mix of dmg..heals and trying to get the objective....

and this was done with a lvl 20 warrior priest..assuming its been the same lvl for all the demos in all the events.

an average dps class at thata lvl ...with burst dps can do close to 300-400 dmg...and a warrior priest output is in the 200 area [with buffs] ...now you should not the "burst" dps that i used for dps clases...warrior priests are more of a sustained damage output....but has the option of using all the rf for a powerful attack

The damage output of wp is probably a lil better than that of the tank class.

if u would want me to put it simply...

if u were a wow paladin... was laughed at for meleeing..being bluntly told to stand back and heal....even though your decked out in plate armor ?

Mythic has come with a good solution..... a perfect " STFU " for all those leet players.

[sonofsigmar]

if u were a wow paladin... was laughed at for meleeing..being bluntly told to stand back and heal....even though your decked out in plate armor ?

I never quite understood that, having all that plate armor, big zweihander or sword and shield, and so many awesome spells with some of the best naming i have seen in a game. all for what?

only three of your spells out of all those meant jack to anyone. flash of light, holy light, and kings. everytime i think of it a kitten explodes.

i wouldnt have my hopes up too high for WPs in the game though, that is until i play the game and actually hit something.

[heavyhebrew]

You forgot Cleanse, sonofsigmar. For those times when Priests had to focus big heals and pallies had to play cleanse-bot. Oh and occasionally Divine Intervention or as I always put it "Raid screwed up; time to save us a run back". I always thought Pallys and Priests got the raw deal. Shammies too.

[sonofsigmar]

oh right heavyhebrew, how could i forget cleanse!! which even had a 50% chance of working after some random nerf. thanks for the reminder. (Divine Intervention and Divine Shield were my fave abilities, besides Judgement of Command, maybe because the previous have "Divine" in them)

i dont really mind what can be said through the video since so many things have been left out. i.e player skill level, gear level, tactics and morale abilities available etc.
all that matters to me are:
1 is the playable WP true to the WP mentioned in the class description?
2 are the WPs abilities useful in all situations, both to the WP and his group?

thats all i care about really, I dont want to feel cheatd out of a class, and i dont want to feel like most of my abilities are useless except healing.

[Volcano Mentality]

Yes but you're forgetting that fact that you're in stronger armor than they, and you have more health
Whatever happened to "They ALL have Medium Armor" eh? :rolleyes:

Sounds excellent. Just what I wanted the Warrior Pries to be.
Agreed.

everytime i think of it a kitten explodes.
Hahaha, poor kitties :p:D

***

But yea, that video really pumped me up for the game:

Everything seemed to be comfortably paced; not too fast to be able to assess your situation and react appropriately, but fast enough to make things interesting.
The WP played just as I hope he would; bashing a few faces in, healing/buffing, then bashing in a few more faces. :cool:
Only problem; whoever was playing seemed really reluctant to get into a fight. A few times I saw him run up to an enemy, then just stand there and watch the fight, not actually attacking like he should have to help his friends out. He seemed a little off-balance and that made him inactive; probably a former WoW Paladin, frightenedly thinking "They're gonna yell at me..." everytime the thought of getting into the fight. :p;)

He got a little too used to the idea later on though; charging into the pack of, what was it, 5 Black Orcs, a Magus, and I think 2 Gobo Shamans with only a couple dwarves at his back... his faith in Sigmar might have been just a BIT too great. :D;)

[Squalion]

You forgot Cleanse, sonofsigmar. For those times when Priests had to focus big heals and pallies had to play cleanse-bot. Oh and occasionally Divine Intervention or as I always put it "Raid screwed up; time to save us a run back". I always thought Pallys and Priests got the raw deal. Shammies too.

I actually cast DI on the MT on flamegor about 20% in when BWL was best end game instance.

one sec I was healing, next i was like "why arnt my spells casting?"

[Michael Darkmoon]

You forgot Cleanse, sonofsigmar.
And BoF for those nasty Warsong Gulch games.