April Newsletter Arrives

[Bhazrak]

Read the full article here (http://www.warhammeralliance.com/article/war-news/april-newsletter-arrives.html).

At last the April newsletter has arrived. Chock full of Warhammer goodness and plenty of details to tide us over untill E3.

[Hattemaker]

I have it too :D
thanks for the info ;)

[Koyochi]

hurray, I just got it too now :)

[snapmaster]

I don't have it yet :(

Hurry up and get a link up Garthilk!

[XadeemTG]

GAAAHH!!!

I always get it late!!

:grumbles. goes off to sacrifice humans to Khaine in hopes of receiving newsletter faster:

[twotimes]

maybe i signed up for it to late. I was all excited, and figuratively ran to my inbox... and alas... nothing.

[Mistorpotatomoto]

Nope, nothing. Just a letter from my teacher saying i'll fail if I miss class next week :(

[slvrfang]

Gah, nothing here either....

[Mistorpotatomoto]

Can't someone link? Or email their copy to me? Mistorpotatomoto@gmail.com :)

[checkthis5000]

I'm at work and work is very strict about what email I can and can't access. So if anyone would like to forward their copy to me, let me know. I can give you my work email.

[Koyochi]

links to screenshots :

http://www.warhammeronline.com/english/media/screenshots/full/giant_ss_01.jpg

http://www.warhammeronline.com/english/media/screenshots/full/gob_ss_01.jpg

http://www.warhammeronline.com/english/media/screenshots/full/gob_ss_02.jpg

http://www.warhammeronline.com/english/media/screenshots/full/gob_ss_03.jpg


and a sketch of a goblin hangglider ?

http://www.warhammeronline.com/english/media/conceptArt/full/gob_cc_01.jpg

[Vegetta]

Bhazrak you beat my post by a couple of min :) (I didnt see yours or I would not have posted mine hahaha)

Awesome newsletter

marshes of madness sounds really cool

and the giant and gobbo pics NIIIIIIIIIIICE

But my fav section was the question and answer part
Beta this summer
Guild beta invites

[Hattemaker]

Can't someone link? Or email their copy to me? Mistorpotatomoto@gmail.com

look in your inbox ;)

[Koyochi]

and a page about a new zone called 'Marshes of Madness' (link not yet added on zones overview on site)

http://www.warhammeronline.com/english/gameInfo/zoneOverviews/marshes_of_madness/marshes_of_madnessOverview.php

[Mistorpotatomoto]

Now all I need is the link to the video blog :)

[Dungeoneer]

A very nice newsletter again - especially great artwork this time, and also fantastic videos (but most of us saw those already - naughty!)

I'll write something more detailed later.

[Koyochi]

Now all I need is the link to the video blog :)

I think those video blogs mentioned are not totally new, they were already placed online some weeks ago (and talked about in this announcement http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1438 ) . There are no new ones added I guess.

[Hattemaker]

vidio blogs: vid (http://www.warhammeronline.com/english/behindTheScenes/vidPhoneDiaries/2006april.php)

[XadeemTG]

Guild beta invites

what did you mean by this? i dont have my newsletter yet so im dying for info, lol

[Hattemaker]

I think they meant that they will invite the guilds (to the beta) with the most active members (not the guild with most members but the guild with alot of people that really want to play and stuff...) and best website..

[JonesyMan]

HHHMMMM....beta this summer......is it to early?

[checkthis5000]

You know what? It's Friday, I have nothing to do at work and I just had a string of exams the past few days. I think I'm going to go home, pour a pint of Guinness, kick back and enjoy the newsletter.

[XadeemTG]

I think they meant that they will invite the guilds (to the beta) with the most active members (not the guild with most members but the guild with alot of people that really want to play and stuff...) and best website..

hmm, this is interesting. i have been one of the biggest supporter of WAR in my guild (which includes DDO, WOW, CoH/V, DAoC and others). perhaps i should turn up my skills of persuasion and convince more people to look into this. with almost 2k members my guild could really help out in beta testing.

[Gor]

they didn't say beta would be this summer, they said contests and the like to get into beta would be this summer. bit of a difference.

in the grab bag sanya *sort of* answered the 2 or 3 side issue. quoted here for those of you who don't have the newsletter yet:

"Q: How many realms will there be in WAR?

A: Short answer: we are launching with two realms, six armies, and three battlefronts. Each realm is comprised of a loose alliance of armies that have formed out of circumstance (see the game’s backstory for more details) – the Alliance of Order (Dwarfs, High Elves, and the Empire) and the Armies of Destruction (Greenskins, Dark Elves, and Chaos). Everything you do in WAR furthers the cause of your army and thus your realm.

Realm vs. Realm™ combat in WAR centers around the above armies and takes place on one of three fronts where ancient foes battle one another – Dwarfs vs. Greenskins, High Elf vs. Dark Elf, and Empire vs. Chaos humans. Players begin the game fighting their racial enemy, but are later free to journey to other battlefronts to help their allies in the larger struggle.

A particular dark elf, for example, can work with allies to invade the capital cities of the Empire, high elves, or the dwarfs. That same dark elf can choose instead to defend his own lands or those belonging to his Greenskin or Chaos "allies." Assuming his own interests don't incline him towards betrayal, of course."


Her last line makes one wonder though...

[Vegetta]

what did you mean by this? i dont have my newsletter yet so im dying for info, lol


Q: Betaaaaaaaaaaa. *drools* Where is the beta sign up!

A: There will be contests, sign up forms, guild betas, and more. Starting (for the most part) this summer. Watch the newsletter and the websites for more information.

Yes, I said guild beta. I'll be putting that together and taking applications late this summer. Guilds will be judged based on how active your members are in your current game or forum (NOT number of members), the length of time you've been together, your website, and more. We'll want a mix of guild types, of course, so my best advice for potential guilds is to be who you are with as much style as possible.

[XadeemTG]

This is turning out to be excellent news. I just wish MY newsletter will hurry up and get here.

:grumbles and sacrifices more humans to Khaine:

[axels15]

The fluff for the marshes of madness were great- definately gonna be where i go first with my dwarf

[Vervayne]

I noticed the bit on betrayal. Whatever could it mean, hmmmmmm.

[Gor]

yeah verv, after re-reading the answer again for the 180th time i think the last line is just to put us on our heels...in other words, it doesn't really mean anything.

Like in her example:

"A particular dark elf, for example, can work with allies to invade the capital cities of the Empire, high elves, or the dwarfs. That same dark elf can choose instead to defend his own lands or those belonging to his Greenskin or Chaos "allies." Assuming his own interests don't incline him towards betrayal, of course."

her use of the word betrayal is probably too strong of a word. the dark elf probably can't attack his allies or back stab them through an action - the only way he could "betray" them is through inaction and not helping them defend their capitals or attack their enemy capitals. And by being inactive they aren't really betraying their allies, they're just not helping them. So i think that last sentence really holds no meaning in the grand scheme of rvr and it appears that the system will indeed be 2 sides, 6 "races", 3 fronts - at least at lower levels. If mixing is encouraged, as it appears it will be, at higher levels we shall see a new emain.

[saethone]

Can't someone link? Or email their copy to me? Mistorpotatomoto@gmail.com :)

umm, ditto, saethone@gmail.com please

[Alanthus]

*sigh*

Looks like it's taking a looooong time for the email to get to some addresses :(

[ChaosDreamer]

nope.. havent gotten my copy yet........

[Gor]

Some of you people need to check your "Trash" folders imo

[Alanthus]

Warhammer newsletter has been approved for a long while so it wouldn't be in the trash/spam folder for me unless they changed sender.


Edit: Ok, mine is here, checking the header it took 2 hours 20 minutes to get from Virginia to North Carolina so there is a congestion someplace.

[Phosphoros]

Mines not here!
*grumble*
Must... kill... something....

[Varli]

Huh. Well, I got mine at my gmail address. Makes you wonder...

[Gharunkal]

Could it just be that they sended newsletters in batches, seeing maybe over 1000 people signed up, and living in different regions, it sounds a bit unlogical to me that all 1000 get it at the same time?
Don't attack me if I'm wrong, I'm not that technical.

[Requiemourn]

The newsletter is sent in batches, so be patient ;).

As for the content - a bit of a disappointment here, mainly because I saw Paul's videos earlier, but still good :). I love the artwork for the chaos giant. The jaw on the side of his belly is a nice touch but I absolutely hate the eyes on his thigh. I hate eyes in such awkward places ;).
The in-game model of the normal giant isn't as menacing as his concept art brother. I think it reminds me of one of our polititians...

[Odan]

Many years ago I worked for a place that did email surveys on the side, and it would take half a day just to send 50k emails. I'm sure newer hardware can do it much faster, but even just sending them can take a lot of time.

[Necrophyt]

hey ya send teh newsletter this way too

inferno552@hotmail.com

would really apreciate it

[checkthis5000]

I have to say that concept picture of the goblin shaman was wicked. Especially with the mummified dwarf skulls complete with hair and beards. And the Chaos Giant concept was awesome as well. Finally my thirst for WAR is satisfied.

I think I'll just have to infiltrate Mythic as a tester and do nothing while I watch the content develop. Muwahaha

[XadeemTG]

Many years ago I worked for a place that did email surveys on the side, and it would take half a day just to send 50k emails. I'm sure newer hardware can do it much faster, but even just sending them can take a lot of time.

Yeah, actually last newsletter I think I didn't receive it untill the next day maybe. So I'm not worried, just jonesing :)

[Rohan]

I have to say that concept picture of the goblin shaman was wicked. Especially with the mummified dwarf skulls complete with hair and beards.

I agree, I thought that screen shot of the shaman looked awesome. Full of detail and not cartoonish at all. :)

Edit: and still no newsletter here either. :cry:

[Gor]

yah the shaman pic was awesome

[Kilrogg-WHA]

Can't anyone just post the link to the newsletter? =/ It should be hosted somewhere in theory...or can someone just host it somewhere?

[Alluvian_Est-Endrati]

Man, after looking over the newsletter, I am actually at a loss for words...

I just can't think of the proper good things to say about how neat everything looks :twisted:

[Requiemourn]

Can't anyone just post the link to the newsletter? =/ It should be hosted somewhere in theory...or can someone just host it somewhere?
Done. Here's a linky:

http://decembermoon.w.interia.pl/wo/AprilNewsletter/newsletter.htm

Will host it as long as it's needed. Beware though - the server is SLOW (Poland is like a big black hole on bandwidth maps...).

[Alluvian_Est-Endrati]

Can't anyone just post the link to the newsletter? =/ It should be hosted somewhere in theory...or can someone just host it somewhere?

I have put up a temporary copy of the newsletter at my site, all of its links seem to be working just fine, but I plan to take this down when the same content is reproduced on the main Warhammer Online site (of if Mythic/etc says so :p).

Link: http://www.manicks.com/warhammer/april2006newsletter.html

[Goreth]

Just read the newsletter. Classic moments were the video diaries but the I think the Marsh of Madness seems so very intriguing aswell. Aswell as, obviously everything else.

[Requiemourn]

Trying to steal my thunder, eh, Alluvian?... :p

To add something to the topic, Karl Kopinski has to be the best artist ever (followed by Adrian Smith). Still, I find this picture of his (http://www.warhammeronline.com/english/behindTheScenes/theMakingOf/images/Decimation_of_Praag_Final_Full.jpg) not so detailed and good overall as his other works. Might just be the small size and too much brightness tho'.

Is it the Tzeentchian Champion portrayed here? Or another indication that only Tzeentch will be available at launch? I'm guessing the former, though making Karl decide how one of the main characters in the game would look like seems a bit awkward to me - but maybe that wasn't the case at all and Mythic has already finished the model for the Champion, or at least his concept art?... Hm, Mythic? :p

In the background you can see a demon and a chaos giant. Will those beasts take active role in city sieges? Would be cool if that was the case, no?

[Varli]

Trying to steal my thunder, eh, Alluvian?... :p

To add something to the topic, Karl Kopinski has to be the best artist ever (followed by Adrian Smith). Still, I find this picture of his (http://www.warhammeronline.com/english/behindTheScenes/theMakingOf/images/Decimation_of_Praag_Final_Full.jpg) not so detailed and good overall as his other works. Might just be the small size and too much brightness tho'.

Is it the Tzeentchian Champion portrayed here? Or another indication that only Tzeentch will be available at launch? I'm guessing the former, though making Karl decide how one of the main characters in the game would look like seems a bit awkward to me - but maybe that wasn't the case at all and Mythic has already finished the model for the Champion, or at least his concept art?... Hm, Mythic? :p

In the background you can see a demon and a chaos giant. Will those beasts take active role in city sieges? Would be cool if that was the case, no?

Its not a picture of the Tzeentchian Champion. Its a picture of the Great Chaos Invasion, which happened way back before the "current" Warhammer. It shows Magnus the Pious fighting against some Chaos leader, im not sure about his name. The Empire won that fight though.

[Requiemourn]

Yeah, that's what I thought at first too, until I read this paragraph:

"This is the first of three paintings by acclaimed Games Workshop artists commissioned by Mythic to illustrate the events leading up to the Age of Reckoning."

It doesn't really indicate one way or another but I figured that if it happened in the normal WH timeline (as we know the game will be put on a side track in terms of placing in time) then how could it influence the Age of Reckoning?
And "The Decimation of Praag" title doesn't really indicate that the Empire has won :p. Well, actually, I know that in Warhammer it could've happened but I still felt tempted to say that ;).

[Rohan]

"Whether or not we succeed at that balancing act remains to be seen in the beta process (starting towards the end of the year)." - Grab Bag

^^^ This may have been skipped over by a few readers that were wondering about Beta start times.

[XadeemTG]

Its not a picture of the Tzeentchian Champion. Its a picture of the Great Chaos Invasion, which happened way back before the "current" Warhammer. It shows Magnus the Pious fighting against some Chaos leader, im not sure about his name. The Empire won that fight though.

The Champion you are talking about is Archaon, Lord of the End Times.

[Kilrogg-WHA]

"Whether or not we succeed at that balancing act remains to be seen in the beta process (starting towards the end of the year)." - Grab Bag

^^^ This may have been skipped over by a few readers that were wondering about Beta start times.

No actually the beta will start late this summer, it's said in the grab bag. She was probably talking about a wider beta for pre-orders and such.

[Requiemourn]

Duh, for how long has this link been there?:

http://www.warhammeronline.com/english/newsletterCentral/archives/April2006.html

Anyhoo, I'm no longer hosting it, as it's clearly unnecessary.

[Seldaren]

The Champion you are talking about is Archaon, Lord of the End Times.

No, Achaeon didn't go to Pragg. He went to Middeheim to corrupt that sacred flame thing. He bypassed Pragg completely.

The painting we have here seems to indicate that Pragg has either fallen or been wrecked to the point where it may not appear in game.
If Pragg has fallen... that's.. that's just crazy, heh.

Its not a picture of the Tzeentchian Champion. Its a picture of the Great Chaos Invasion, which happened way back before the "current" Warhammer.

In the description of how the paiting was creating, it blatantly says that Champion is a Champion of Tzeentch.
As mentioned above, this painting represents something that has happened in WAR.

Seldaren

[Requiemourn]

If Pragg has fallen... that's.. that's just crazy, heh.
Praag is constantly in a fallen state, more or less, as far as I'm concerned ;). In one of the slayer novels (Beastslayer I think), Praag has indeed fallen and it was mentioned there that it has happened yet another time. It was said that from all the sieges and times the city switched hands the streets themselves became warped by Chaos.

But I don't really believe that it's going to be repopulated by Kislevites this time.

I always wondered, what would be the capitol of Chaos that other players might siege. And since Chaos can't really be beaten and doesn't have a capitol, does this mean that the best we can do is to push back the Chaos incursion by destroying their base camp at Praag?

Kinda like in the case of Orcs that made a new home for themselves out of Karak Eight-Peaks and I imagine it would be the exact same case with Dark Elves, since I don't think Lustria will be included at release. Sounds neat, if you'd ask me - the baddies in Warhammer always seemed to have the upper hand and it was the good guys that had to struggle to survive. The idea that pushing back the invasion is the best the Order can get conveys the feel of Warhammer well, IMO.

EDIT: Mispelled Eight-Peaks. I knew this was going to happen to me sooner or later. Karak Eight-Peeks sounds like a name for a cheap porno star. Not that I would know anything about it :p.

Also, I suck at geography :|.

[Rohan]

No actually the beta will start late this summer, it's said in the grab bag. She was probably talking about a wider beta for pre-orders and such.

I was pointing out the actual beta (in-game testing). I believe they are beginning the beta contests and guild signups in the summer not the actual beta testing.

But who really knows! :razz:

[XadeemTG]

Praag is constantly in a fallen state, more or less, as far as I'm concerned ;). In one of the slayer novels (Beastslayer I think), Praag has indeed fallen and it was mentioned there that it has happened yet another time. It was said that from all the sieges and times the city switched hands the streets themselves became warped by Chaos.

But I don't really believe that it's going to be repopulated by Kislevites this time.

I always wondered, what would be the capitol of Chaos that other players might siege. And since Chaos can't really be beaten and doesn't have a capitol, does this mean that the best we can do is to push back the Chaos incursion by destroying their base camp at Praag?

Kinda like in the case of Orcs that made a new home for themselves out of Karak Eight-Peeks and I imagine it would be the exact same case with Dark Elves, since I don't think Lustria will be included at release. Sounds neat, if you'd ask me - the baddies in Warhammer always seemed to have the upper hand and it was the good guys that had to struggle to survive. The idea that pushing back the invasion is the best the Order can get conveys the feel of Warhammer well, IMO.

Dark elves come from Naggaroth, Lizardmen come from Lustria ;)

But yeah, I see what you are saying. Order is going to be pushing back Destruction from encroaching upon anymore of its land. Seems like a great idea.

[Ahsas]

Sorry for my little outburst in the General forum, its been a long week, and almost as soon as I turned my comp on to get to work on one of many projects, it popped up. The Gobbos look great *sigh* back to work.

I may have missed something, but where did it say that that was Magnus the Pious? Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't there something about how WAR was going to be slightly displaced from the Games Workshop timeline?

[Halios]

Sweaaat Jeeesus, Give Us The Power To Love!! War.

[SnowMiser]

is there a link for the newsletter?

[Garthilk]

Check the front page of the site!

[Skodmunk]

those goblin screenies are sweet !

[Seldaren]

one of the slayer novels (Beastslayer I think), Praag has indeed fallen and it was mentioned there that it has happened yet another time.

It doesn't actually fall in that book though, the walls are breached and Gotrek kills the lead guy when he goes inside.
So it gets pretty messed up yeah, but Chaos doesn't take control of it.

And since Chaos can't really be beaten and doesn't have a capitol, does this mean that the best we can do is to push back the Chaos incursion by destroying their base camp at Praag?

Hmmm... that's a thought, hadn't considered that.

Question though. In Beastslayer, it's mentioned that something is "sleeping" under Pragg and that's why Chaos keeps trying to take it. Anyone know exactly what that is?

Seldaren

[DiabloX]

i just watched one of there video diaries and they mentioned this website, it's good to know we're being listened too