the swordmaster's armor needs an upgrade (look wise)

[Bloodboil]

from what i understand this is the tank right? (could be wrong here)

his armor seems pretty weaksauce compared to the other tanks
i KNOW hes supposed to defend himself more with his swords but still...

nobody else feel this way?

[dutch_gamer]

What do we really know about the Swordmaster? We have only seen him in one type of armor. So we have basically only seen one Tier. So I don't see how anyone can even determine that the looks is weaksauce, based on the videos from Leipzig.

I do, however, count on it that his look does stay pretty much like it is now. And his armor has a lot in common with the Warrior Priest, I wouldn't call him weaksauce either. High Elves aren't known for wearing full plate, but more for half plate as you can already see on the Swordmaster. The Swordmaster will probably focus more on damage avoidance instead on damage mitigation as the other tanks do. I am glad that it doesn't seem like Mythic will make all tanks wear full plate, just because they are tanks. And yes, I know what they have stated in the podcast about the archetypes, but lookwise that probably doesn't always hold true. All you have to do is look at the difference between the Warrior Priest and the Zealot and you will notice they don't all wear moderate armor.

[Jest]

I think he looks fine. Looks like an archetypal High Elf.

[Fellhahn]

He appears to be wearing a dress:

http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/media/images/conceptArt/ConArt0807_53.jpg

This is fine though, it's a good thing.

It will make things easier on my foot while I'm kicking him in the balls.




Repeatedly.

[Lord_crapalot]

In TT his armor is classified as being heavy. But as dutch said he avoids or parries blows instead of taking them.

[Jest]

He appears to be wearing a dress:

http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/media/images/conceptArt/ConArt0807_53.jpg

This is fine though, it's a good thing.


Looks more like a robe covered by mail, to me.
Just like the Tabletop Models (http://us.games-workshop.com/games/warhammer/highelves/catalog/images/Swordmasters_large.gif)..


It will make things easier on my foot while I'm kicking him in the balls.




Repeatedly.

What are you.. 13?

[Jumpe]

Indeed, it's just one set we have seen now, and i think it looks completely fine.
Besides Swordmasters are more about avoiding the damage instead of tanking it.
And there are other classes too, if you don't like swordmasters.

[Vikingkingq]

That's what Swordmasters look like. They don't wear human armor.

[Kermichil]

What are you.. 13?

Actually, that is a Black Orc attack in the game. I will go out on the limb and say that is what he has in mind.

[AlienOverlord]

The fancy clothes/dress and long, saloon shampooed hair could throw off anyone from thinking an elf could tank. Keep in mind, in addition to spending centuries practicing they will probably also use magic to supplement their martial skills so they really don't need heavy armor that other tanks require.

And yes, it's annoying that they get away with tanking while wearing flowing, fancy clothes. They're an elf, they're supposed be annoying.

[Bloodboil]

The fancy clothes/dress and long, saloon shampooed hair could throw off anyone from thinking an elf could tank. Keep in mind, in addition to spending centuries practicing they will probably also use magic to supplement their martial skills so they really don't need heavy armor that other tanks require.

And yes, it's annoying that they get away with tanking while wearing flowing, fancy clothes. They're an elf, they're supposed be annoying.

lol yea elves are something different allright:D

[Biocide]

Elves are supposed to look frail and the suchlike, and the armor looks about on par with a WP, which suits me fine.

[Nerothos]

He appears to be wearing a dress:

http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/media/images/conceptArt/ConArt0807_53.jpg

This is fine though, it's a good thing.

It will make things easier on my foot while I'm kicking him in the balls.




Repeatedly.

It's a robe you closed minded git.

Stop spamming the elf forums if you don't like elves.

[Thoden Firehammer]

It's a robe you closed minded git.

Stop spamming the elf forums if you don't like elves.
And guess who's here!!:cool:

Yeah, I think that looks like a dress....I always knew them elves were a bunch of dress wearers.

Ok well seriosuly I think the Sword Master looks great, he really shows off that High Elvishness...

Also we don't know that much about this class to judge anything at the moment.

[Browncoat-WHA]

I've seen a bunch of the trash talking race content in posts around lately. Let's try to stay away from those - they really contribute next to nothing to a thread and people tend to take them the wrong way.

Back on topic, I do agree that it's a bit premature to judge apperances, especially on a brand new class announcement.

[Athenys]

It will make things easier on my foot while I'm kicking him in the balls.
Repeatedly.

Kick him in that general area enough times and you *might* find your target...or not.

Questions of 'manliness' aside, the mail is split so as to not overly impede mobility. I don't think there is secondary armor under there other than padding. Sizewise it deviates a bit from the TT imagery, but IMO it's a good change. I don't think he'd be too happy prancing around in a 30 lb. metallic hobble skirt :rolleyes:...

[Jest]

Sizewise it deviates a bit from the TT imagery

M'eh, not really
http://us.games-workshop.com/games/warhammer/highelves/catalog/images/Swordmasters_large.gif

[Yavvy]

Yeah, I think that looks like a dress....I always knew them elves were a bunch of dress wearers.*cough* Whats this (http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/media/images/screenshots/SOG_01.jpg)? ;)

[Duncan]

*cough* Whats this (http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/media/images/screenshots/SOG_01.jpg)? ;)

HAHA...Brilliant!

[Aldebrand]

*cough* Whats this (http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/media/images/screenshots/SOG_01.jpg)? ;)

The dwarfs however needed something to justify the look, thus the word "tunic" was invented.

[kizen]

That stuntie is not wearing a tunic =p.

He is fashionably showing off this new skirt. I mean, if he hikes that thing up a couple inches and shows some leg we could be going down a very seriously disturbing path.

[Krulltak]

That stuntie is not wearing a tunic =p.

He is fashionably showing off this new skirt. I mean, if he hikes that thing up a couple inches and shows some leg we could be going down a very seriously disturbing path.


I really hope you're joking.

[kizen]

Yeah, I was kidding.

But, what if you got like 15 stunties together, and they did a "Braveheart" where they mooned the greenskins as they came charging in?

[Thoden Firehammer]

Kick him in that general area enough times and you *might* find your target...or not.

Questions of 'manliness' aside, the mail is split so as to not overly impede mobility. I don't think there is secondary armor under there other than padding. Sizewise it deviates a bit from the TT imagery, but IMO it's a good change. I don't think he'd be too happy prancing around in a 30 lb. metallic hobble skirt :rolleyes:...
This is great work, I mean really, this is such a good one I can't believe you're not a dwarf((Compliment))

*cough* Whats this (http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/media/images/screenshots/SOG_01.jpg)? ;)

Bah!, how dare you, an' to yer own kin. Yeh also know damn'd well that chain mail has always been made like then even in Real Life, the kilt/skirt/dress part(what ever you wish to call it) has been made like that for several reasons

1. Allows for even more preotection
2. It doesn't requier you to form fit legs
3. It's faster to make
((By the way that was half Rpish and then it devevoled into puting out facts about real history...))

Bah! lass, yer a traitor tew our kin, damn'd Zharr Dawi!! go back t' yer Elf lover and Greenskin allies and slaves!

[Yavvy]

Bah!, how dare you, an' to yer own kin. Yeh also know damn'd well that chain mail has always been made like then even in Real Life, the kilt/skirt/dress part(what ever you wish to call it) has been made like that for several reasons

1. Allows for even more preotection
2. It doesn't requier you to form fit legs
3. It's faster to make
((By the way that was half Rpish and then it devevoled into puting out facts about real history...))Indeed.

Bah! lass, yer a traitor tew our kin, damn'd Zharr Dawi!! go back t' yer Elf lover and Greenskin allies and slaves!Really, that wasn't needed. Yes, I made fun of you, but thats taking it a bit far :(

[Paintbrush-WHA]

*cough* Whats this (http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/media/images/screenshots/SOG_01.jpg)? ;)

LMAO.. Nice, Yavvy. Nice.

[Krulltak]

Yeah, I was kidding.

But, what if you got like 15 stunties together, and they did a "Braveheart" where they mooned the greenskins as they came charging in?

They wouldn't be able to turn fast enough to avoid having a spear shoved up their arses.

[Vaeronthar]

1. Allows for even more preotection
2. It doesn't requier you to form fit legs
3. It's faster to makeI like how those only matter when it's dwarfs we're talking about.

[Krulltak]

I like how those only matter when it's dwarfs we're talking about.


They DO only matter when speaking of Dwarfs. Dwarfs use a very strong, very refined steel to make their armor and weapons, where as elves just use...........elf stuff, and everyone knows elf stuff is light-weight, but fragile.

[Vaeronthar]

They DO only matter when speaking of Dwarfs. Dwarfs use a very strong, very refined steel to make their armor and weapons, where as elves just use...........elf stuff, and everyone knows elf stuff is light-weight, but fragile.Time, effort and blood saved counts for everyone. Even if the materials aren't exactly the same, you're still hammering out metal on the forge, still wearing metal while you fight. The same principles apply when we're talking about defense, even if the values and materials differ.

[Krulltak]

Time, effort and blood saved counts for everyone. Even if the materials aren't exactly the same, you're still hammering out metal on the forge, still wearing metal while you fight. The same principles apply when we're talking about defense, even if the values and materials differ.


Aye, this is true.

But everyone knows you can never get a dwarf to admit it! So don't bother trying.

[Master]

Well, although I will admit the idea of a tank, a guy who wears thick, thick armor and runs up to the most dangerous, well trained and skilled masters of magic or combat and yell 'YOU! YOU! LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME!!! NO! PAY ATTENTION! PAY ATTENTION!!! DON'T LOOK AT THE GUY HEALING ME! PAY ATTENTION!!!!' wearing... well a dress.

Now, this is obviously for the reasons that High Elves are magical. Ergo even their tanking class relies heavily on channeling the powers of the Arcane into their weapons and tearing baddies apart. So, they wear some bizare plate robe.

The armor of the Warlord combined with the armor of the Wizard. In theory, awesome. Yet somehow, it appears like you took carefully crafted Elven Armor, and then ran out of materials halfway down and just re-painted a wedding dress bottum.

But when it comes down to it, when someone is in mid-air spinning while slashing with some Arcane empowered blade, who cares if they're in a dress? So, if anyone says 'Ha! Your wearing a dress!' just respond by showing them the mass amounts you've slain WHILE wearing that dress. And to think they needed pants to do it.

[Athenys]

I know, I know. We'll just have to get to used to it, it's not like HE players will be able to avoid cross-dressing. How does that (http://www.aimelek.com/locker/swordmastersong.mp3) song go...

[Baradun]

The Swordmaster will probably focus more on damage avoidance instead on damage mitigation as the other tanks do. All you have to do is look at the difference between the Warrior Priest and the Zealot and you will notice they don't all wear moderate armor.

Kindof like a monk with a sword? not realy a tank but who needs armour if nobody can hit you. Kindof an inscentive to attack the tank too if hes prancin about tauntin ya with his fancy footed moves thinkin hes better than ya.

[Thoden Firehammer]

Time, effort and blood saved counts for everyone. Even if the materials aren't exactly the same, you're still hammering out metal on the forge, still wearing metal while you fight. The same principles apply when we're talking about defense, even if the values and materials differ.

.... Aye but i'm not the one wearin the cloth dress, with elven armor underneath.

I know, I know. We'll just have to get to used to it, it's not like HE players will be able to avoid cross-dressing. How does that (http://www.aimelek.com/locker/swordmastersong.mp3) song go...

Why did you have to be an elf lover, you're briliant! :(

[Vaeronthar]

.... Aye but i'm not the one wearin the cloth dress, with elven armor underneath.
I like the breeze...

[Krulltak]

I like the breeze...

Take pride in your kilt.

Only a TRUE man wears a man-dress, because the Scottish ROCK.

Unfortunately for you elf, elves just wear robes and/or nighties, which are much different then a kilt. Only thing I've seen in Warhammer with a kilt was this Black Orc once.....

[Vaeronthar]

I've aquired some new respect for the black orc. That's just awesome.

[Krulltak]

http://uk.games-workshop.com/orcsandgoblins/ardboyz-tactics/images/orc4.jpg


There we go.

Also notice he has a hafling tied to his round shield.

[Axxar]

They wouldn't be able to turn fast enough to avoid having a spear shoved up their arses.Stunty-on-a-stick?

[DrainBamaged]

I know, I know. We'll just have to get to used to it, it's not like HE players will be able to avoid cross-dressing. How does that (http://www.aimelek.com/locker/swordmastersong.mp3) song go...
I....

LOVE....

YOU!!!

[Athenys]

Bet you didn't know Beyonce (http://www.aimelek.com/locker/freakdress.mp3) also collects HE. It's true :neutral:.

[Nerothos]

http://uk.games-workshop.com/orcsandgoblins/ardboyz-tactics/images/orc4.jpg


There we go.

Also notice he has a hafling tied to his round shield.

That model is full of win.