Will Choppa's be able to use 2h?

[WARalka]

So far all the videos and information about choppa's show them duel wielding but much of the lore would allow them to use 2h, id really like them to use 2h cuz im aint down with duelwielding that much (better then magic or missiles though)

Krulltak says they can (i know he knows quite a bit about the choppa class) but can this be confirmed for the final game release?

That's a Black Orc.


But Choppas do use two-handers.

The Choppa is the heavy damage Melee class for Greenskins.

Black Orc is the tank, so you want the Choppa for greater damage.

Also, this is information you could REALLY find out on your own easily if you weren't so lazy.

[Shafted]

Remember: no person in the beta can give you info on this. And Mythic hasn't said anything specifically, but I heard something about "Great" choppas. Which are two-handed.

[WARalka]

I know but you think they could release the fact that they could use 2 handers, its not going to affect their beta, just let people know that Choppas are not going to be rogues like in WoW, cuz i aint wana be no damn duel-wielding rogue ;)

[Amehnas]

I know but you think they could release the fact that they could use 2 handers, its not going to affect their beta, just let people know that Choppas are not going to be rogues like in WoW, cuz i aint wana be no damn duel-wielding rogue ;)

And why should be double 1hander combat should be related to the wow rogue???

It's different game, different mechanics, meaning it will be far different than wow even with double choppas wielding ;)

[WARalka]

Yea, thats why i am going to play a choppa either way... but i would enjoy using the 2h even more because they are more intimidating

[Krowen]

You need stealth, 3 stuns and four 5 min. cooldowns to be a WoW rogue.

[Flicken]

The Choppa would be closer to a Fury warrior than a rogue if you wanna WoW-anise it.

Knowing Orcs, the basic thinking by there standards is either, as many weapons as posible (duel wielding) or the biggest weapon posible... Knowing this, I think it'd be safe to assume that there will be many Choppa's (Class and Weapon) that will be 2 handers...

[sualty]

Don't forget kick krowen:grin:.

[Fusko]

I'm gonna call it now, Choppas get to use 2 handers. Anyone wanna take me up?! If I lose you get 1 in-game kill on me.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume the name 'Choppa' means that they use Choppas, things that chop, whether they be big or small, if they chop they're a Choppa. Correct me if I'm wrong, Krulltak. ;)

[Flicken]

I'm gonna go out on a limb and assume the name 'Choppa' means that they use Choppas, things that chop, whether they be big or small, if they chop they're a Choppa.

While your assumption is correct, in the TT game, Choppa's themselves have there own rules like Halberds and Great Swords which suggest that they aren't just some random shard object. Basically anything made by an Orc and called a Choppa by an Orc would be a Choppa. I think maybe Orc affinity with the weapon combined with it's Waaagh power might imbue the weapon with extra (perhaps slightly magical) properties... Who knows... not me that's for sure...

[Throwhemon]

please see

http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6769

[Vidrak]

1) The Choppa will not be even close to a Rogue in WoW, or a Rogue in any game. It is a Berserking class. So I am not worried at all about that.

2) There is no stealth in WAR, which is great (as stealth I think is probably THE worst game design decision in a PvP game, ever). So classes that do dual-wield shouldn't be associated with "rogues" anyways.

3) This is Warhammer, the only "rogue" like class I have seen are Assasins. And those are not even in the game. Orc Choppas, Dwarven Hammerers, Witch Hunters, Marauders and Witch Elves? These are hardly classes that seem rogue like at all. They are all blood frenzied fighters, blood thirsty mutants or heretic purgers. The last thing they will be doing is stealthing around and stabbing people in the back.

I see the Choppa, especially, as a full blown Berserker class (Like a Barbarian from D&D, or even the Berserker from DAoC). Even comparing it to a rogue is very narrow minded, just read the Warhammer Online site. It doesn't smell like rogue at all.

[Ramiraz]

As far as comparing a dual wielding Choppa to a WoW rogue is nonsense to me, being "rogueish" just isnt in the orc nature. If you wanna compare them to anything "wowish" the closest you get is a fury warrior.

As far as them getting to use 2 Handers, I damn well hope so. 2 handed damage dealers should be just as viable as dual wielders and it should be up the the player witch one he(or she) will choose.

[Axxar]

Here (http://www.warhammeronline.com/english/media/podcast/files/WAR-VotM_2007-03_Login.html) is an orc in high tier choppa armour wielding a two-handed choppa. I've never seen any gameplay footage where choppas use two-handed weapons, and they seem to prefer dual wielding. I don't think anyone can truly say if they'll be able to use two-handed choppas or not at release, but I get the impression they're generally supposed to be dual-wielding, which also fits with how melee DPS generally are supposed to be a "flurry of blows". Though of course that doesn't mean it's not viable to do something else.

[Throwhemon]

Here (http://www.warhammeronline.com/english/media/podcast/files/WAR-VotM_2007-03_Login.html) is an orc in high tier choppa armour wielding a two-handed choppa. I've never seen any gameplay footage where choppas use two-handed weapons, and they seem to prefer dual wielding. I don't think anyone can truly say if they'll be able to use two-handed choppas or not at release, but I get the impression they're generally supposed to be dual-wielding, which also fits with how melee DPS generally are supposed to be a "flurry of blows". Though of course that doesn't mean it's not viable to do something else.

as ive said before a number of times its a login screen, made to look awsome and in no way relates to in-game mechanics.

[Flicken]

Last night I read a chat hosted by MMORPG.com with some of the War Online Dev team where THEY state that all the Tank classes will be able to use Two handed weapons to great effect, so you'd assume that an Orc Choppa who's more DPS specced would also be able to Two Hand fairly proficiently...


MMORPG.com: Cayn :asks: Will 'tank' classes be able to use 2-handed weapons effectivly in RvR combat?
[WAR]EAMythic_Josh: Hell yes.
[WAR]EAMythic_Josh: Er... I mean... yes.
[WAR]EAMythic_Gersh: Yup
[WAR]EAMythic_Gersh: Great Weapons are an offensive tanks best friend
[WAR]EAMythic_Josh: And they look so damn cool.

http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm?FROM=features&SETVIEW=features&GAMEID=239&BHCP=1&LOADFEATURE=1496&bhcp=1

[Throwhemon]

That is a comment on Tanks useing great weapons, but if the choppa couls use a 2her then they would definetly be better at it because their entire purpose is to do damage. But there is no evidence that choppas can use great weapons and all the evidence to point that choppas are duel weild only.

[Tea TIme With Death]

witch elfs, though nothing official has been stated, im 100% sure will be and are dual wield only so its not a givin that the dps classes can use 2handers, look at the witch hunter as well. even marauders are fishy to speculate with 2 handers with their mutations that can be awkward.

[Throwhemon]

witch elfs, though nothing official has been stated, im 100% sure will be and are dual wield only so its not a givin that the dps classes can use 2handers, look at the witch hunter as well. even marauders are fishy to speculate with 2 handers with their mutations that can be awkward.

witch hunters only use a main hand sword and off-hand gun, witch elves onlt use daggers, and the marauder uses a sword in one hand and a mutation in the other.

[Tea TIme With Death]

witch hunters only use a main hand sword and off-hand gun, witch elves onlt use daggers, and the marauder uses a sword in one hand and a mutation in the other.


exactly, and we havnt seen any choppas with 2h, so only dps class with em is dwarf hammerers atm, if choppas dont.

[Axxar]

exactly, and we havnt seen any choppas with 2h, so only dps class with em is dwarf hammerers atm, if choppas dont.*ahem*cough*cough*ahem* (http://www.warhammeronline.com/english/media/podcast/files/WAR-VotM_2007-03_Login.html).

[Flicken]

I don't see how they could limit an Orc to using two puny choppas, most of us know that an Orc wants the biggest, spikiest, cuttiest (?) weapon they can get... trust me, if they can't use 2 handers, I'll complain till they can ;)

[Throwhemon]

*ahem*cough*cough*ahem* (http://www.warhammeronline.com/english/media/podcast/files/WAR-VotM_2007-03_Login.html).

repeating yourself? you keep showing us an unfinished login screen as your "proof" but its still not evidence. They could have used anything for it becuase of how simple it is, It could be a npc model everthink of that? what if they put a engineer with a giant axe on the screen. does that mean they will get 2h axes? or a goblin with a gun, does that mean that they will break the lore and let them use anything that advanced?

[Gemini]

repeating yourself? you keep showing us an unfinished login screen as your "proof" but its still not evidence. They could have used anything for it becuase of how simple it is, It could be a npc model everthink of that? what if they put a engineer with a giant axe on the screen. does that mean they will get 2h axes? or a goblin with a gun, does that mean that they will break the lore and let them use anything that advanced?

I agree that the login video is not proof of anything, espically that was at a phase where so many armors and such were just placeholders. That being said, I find it more likely than not that choppas will indeed be able to use great choppas/cleavas, whatever ya wanna call 'em.

[Axxar]

repeating yourself? you keep showing us an unfinished login screen as your "proof" but its still not evidence.It gives an indication of choppas using two-handed weapons, so yes it's evidence pointing towards the possibility of choppas using two-handed weapons. It doesn't necessarily mean it's 100% sure choppas can use two-handed weapons, but then again neither are screenshots of black orcs using a shield. The reason I repeated it was the he seemed to have missed the previous link. Sticking your fingers in your ears and shouting "LALALA!" isn't going to make it go away. I don't personally care if they can or not, but you have to see the whole of the discussion rather than ignore certain aspects and hope they go away.

[rokema]

maybe a gaint choppa with speed!
PS: out of topic: how to change a link into text??
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Choppa's da bezst because...
We diez Choppin'!

[Axxar]

By use of Waaagh magic!

[Throwhemon]

By use of Waaagh magic!

WAAAGH!!!lol ten character requirment

[Gemini]

PS: out of topic: how to change a link into text??



The globe button with the two chain-links. And to end it, use the links with the red x through it.

[Eltair Shadowblade]

lol:p (http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/google.com)

[rokema]

The globe button with the two chain-links. And to end it, use the links with the red x through it.
ty but i still don't understand :O
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Choppa's da bezst because...
We diez Choppin'!