Ffs Heal!

[Axxar]

So you're a warrior priest, and you are madly whacking away at your opponents, making sure to have enough righteous fury to supply buffs and heals to your team. An ally notices that you are fighting instead of constantly healing. Inevitably, this culminates in him sending you the following message:

"FFS HEAL!"

Now, being the warrior priest, what is your reaction?

[Nastu]

2.... 4..... 6.... 8.... Who Do We Appreachiate? Noobs From Wow :)

[Duppre]

Well.. I would heal him if I'm fast enought.. then I would continue play the game the way I like it ;)

[Slash]

Watch him die :D then lol at him


EDIT: Misread the OP :p

[Duppre]

Watch him die :D then lol at him


EDIT: Misread the OP :p

You have inspired us all O.O xD

[Chrismorris]

Do what i used to do with my lvl 70 dwarf priest in WoW, stand next to them and watch them die, then /spit on them and run away :evil:

[Emurar]

Make me.

I'm sure everyone has something crass/witty to say to them. But what if you weren't doing your job? Let's say you were just going all out DPS and only healing yourself, and someone on your side said "FFS HEAL ME"?

[Dragonspear]

Do what i used to do with my lvl 70 dwarf priest in WoW, stand next to them and watch them die, then /spit on them and run away :evil:

I approve of this responce :)

[BowieHero]

explain politely to them that it's always your own fault if you die, and then conjecture that their mother may be a prostitute.

[Boulvae]

If he's polite about it, or atleast shows signs of helping me out in doing so yes, if i'm returning a favor then yes, if he's the guy yelling at all healers to heal him then no.

But i'm gonna be smart and add plz then return the favor somehow when i'm fighting the good fight.

[Pseudoman]

Well I certainly wont heal him, and in future make sure I never group with him either.

[Aysop]

explain politely to them that it's always your own fault if you die, and then conjecture that their mother may be a prostitute.

qft.

I would probably ignore them and then /lol at them when they die.

[sonofsigmar]

Well to represent Warrior Priests on my realm, I would heal him if he was:

1. Doing a good job OR
2. Protecting me or someone in my group.

Lets say he charges solo into 4 choppas and a magus and leaves us far behind, you know the kind of kamikaze rambo stuff only nublets engage in............ i wouldnt be so rude, nor would I waste a drop of RF or action points. He would die and say "FFS why didnt you heal????!!!!"

My reply, the time-tested, never old, nut-cracking " l2p "

nothing more or less, and resume my whacking. HOWEVER if it was an ironbreaker or engineer, i would explain things well and make him aware if we stick together we can be friends, and i can heal him all he wants, if he sticks with me. IMO those two are a WPs best friends.

[Rukaz]

He who asks for heals shall receive nothing.

This is my mantra while playing a support class. I heal... As long as you don't piss me off.

[Buckethead Wendy]

I'd probably heal him if he was doing well, or if by doing so would help us win. But from most of my experiences, the people who say "ffs heal me" or "OMFG why wont you healers heal me!" are a waste of time to deal with, and by sticking with whatever it was you were doing before their comment, you'll do better than if you heal him.

[Gemini]

The problem with letting them die is that reinforces they're dilussional beliefs. Now I'm sure some people won't mind, but I would personally like to dispell that belief as often as possible. I would probably mentioned how in order to heal him I need to crack skulls, and if he dosn't like it he can heal himself. Than if he continues to be an , I'll let him die and tell him he did it to himself. :)

[Pseudoman]

I dont care If the guy develops a pathological hatred of healers, theres no way I would heal anyone who says to me FFS heal. /ignore is a healers best friend.

[Noah]

Tell him if he wanted heals he should have rolled a Warrior Priest like I did.


Haha, I don't know really. If I honestly wasn't doing my job, I guess I'd feel pretty sheepish, but honestly I don't really expect those of us on the forum who actually play support classes to not do their job 90% of the time.

[Tlear]

Problem is that you will have a large number of loldps warrior priests who deserve HEAL FFS comment. So if I was actually playing priest I would give the guy benefit of a doubt the first time, that is unless he did something stupid to begin with, then just ignore him (no heals for jooo)

[Lord Tareq]

I did notice in the video's where players got 10 minutes to play the game, that almost none healed. Especially the zealot video's I've seen consisted of the zealot casting 1 or 2 different dps spells all the time.
If this is any indication of how these classes will be played when the game goes live then I foresee alot of "HEAL FFS" yells. Personally I think I'll make a macro that will make my character yell "In the name of Khaine! Heal your allies or be marked a traitor by the Black Guard!" if this turns out to be true.
And obviously semi-healers that let everyone die around them while they are dps'ing won't have the luxury of me bodyguarding them.

[tzeencz]

It seems that nobody so far mentioned this - for warrior priest to perform its duty well - one needs to be in the middle of the fight. That the only way we know to get "righteous fury" - magical fuel tha allows warrior priest to fight and help other people.

So when you want to get buffed and healed better let that priest do its job. Besides - similarly to runepriest - warrior priest is good fighter (if not very good...) - denying him to lend his power upfront would be simply stupid.

So when somebody says - "heal ffs" answer in similar way "l2p noob" :twisted:

[checkthis5000]

So you're a warrior priest, and you are madly whacking away at your opponents, making sure to have enough righteous fury to supply buffs and heals to your team. An ally notices that you are fighting instead of constantly healing. Inevitably, this culminates in him sending you the following message:

"FFS HEAL!"

Now, being the warrior priest, what is your reaction?

Ignore him, because he obviously has no idea how the game should be played. But he'll learn soon enough, because after the battle I'll give him a rundown on it.

[Snuggans]

Now, being the warrior priest, what is your reaction?

"sure thing mate, trade me a couple RF and i'll be on my way" :rolleyes:

[Kevinskewl]

Yeah but imagine being in the other guys shoes... lets say you're on a 10v10 on the order side and you're a witch hunter. The Destruction side is dominating your team because they are working together and healing each other... and the healers we do have dps poorly (because theyre not a dps class) and dont heal at all and of course the destruction side wins like 1000 points to 1. Being the witch hunter in that scenario, ya i would say FFS Heal! Then the warrior priest watches me die and our whole team gets rolled.

This is especially frustrating if the healer is being a retard and you are at the top of the battleground stats with the most kills when it is very obvious that getting a heal would be VERY beneficial and possibly even make your team come back and win.

When the healers start denying people heals and start ignoring their own team, you get what happened to WoW on alliance side where alliance lose 90% of all PUG BG's. Horde never acted like this because for the most part on horde side when somebody says FFS Heal, the healers are not in first grade and understand that healing them will make their team win, so they heal. Then later on the healer usually gets a tell like, "OMG you are my Hero THANK YOU!"

I used to have an Alliance side priest. And with the massive grind fest that WoW is, I wanted to win so I could get some good gear. And when somebody said "FFS Heal" to me, I'd check the BG stats, and if that person is doing well, I will DEFINETLY heal them. Maybe even follow them around and healbot them. There were VERY few times when I would ignore somebody begging for a heal. I played to win.

Because all in all, you know the DPS class is right. If you don't want to heal people you shouldn't have rolled a Healer. You should have rolled a DPS class or a Tank. As a DPS class, when a healer doesn't do his job, I am the first one to ignore him because who wants play with people who act like children and rolled the wrong class and refuse to work together? Not me.

[tzeencz]

@ Kevinskewl

Tooooo *fruitcage* many references to WoW! We still don`t know exactly how classes are working, but one thing is certain - there are no "support" classes in the traditional meaning. Everyone gets to do "dirty" job, everyone should! It`s just that besides smacking chaos scum WP can throw heal or two, buff ppl, etc. (in case of WP - one in fact needs to fight, otherwise no heal for you).

[spoonlamp]

Healers are great to have, but you should never rely on the heals. Over the course of the session gaming with the guy you can guage both his player skill and the power or skills of his alt, but when your health is low, use your own skills to aid you - don't rely on someone who's abilities are untested (in your mind).

So - "FFS! Heal!" ? I'd keep playing my game. If I couldn't heal at that point because of lack or AP or morale etc, then just keep plugging away at the bad guys until I do. Heal when I can. If I can manage a quick explanation I'd fire one off too, so he know's if he doesn't help himself - it's faceplant time. He'll learn. :)

[Unwise]

I would have a macro set up the sends a reply "Dear Noob: blah blah explain the details of rightous fury blah blah".

If this is in the initial stages of the game, I think that the noob in question can be forgiven for asking a healer to heal. Later on as people get more experienced, it would become unacceptable.

A few responses spring to mind:

(A) Heal, but just don't heal him.

(B) Tell him if he wants a heal he has to click on his Rune to activate it. He is obviously a noob and this will keep him busy looking for it for a while.

(C) Sorry I can't heal you, your not a human. Since he is a noob this should confuse him and sound convincing enough to be believed for a little.

(D) Get all "Taxi Driver" on him. "You lookin' at me? Yeah you, you lookin' at me?! What do I look like to you!? Some sort of healer?! Is that what I am to you!? Would that make you happy? huh!?"

[heavyhebrew]

"FFS HEAL!'

"Really? you want a heal? KMA!"

More likely this comment would be from some dps type who ran away from the team and Kamikazes 3 black orcs and their 6 choppa friends on the other side of the map. I am also willing to bet that the "FFS HEAL!" guy will be a former WoW fury warrior with a tendency to run way out in front of the team in AV and then scream like the little weenus he is about how all the healers suck and we would be winning now if only he had been healed when he wanted to be healed.

Warrior Priest heals work on the move and are fast (and dirt AP cheap if RF is built up). Plus we have to heals that work off the melee mechanic, one being a HOT so this discussion is really a bunch of ex-WoW types wondering whether they will have their pocket healer so they can go get leet maximum face meltage.
Oh and we have a heal aoe that also does a damage aoe as well.
And we have Tactics that also provide heals, some off the melee mechanic, some just give a decent HOT.
We have heals and buffs out the wazoo.
I was worried that the Warrior Priest would get pigeonholed into a healbot spot....then I played the game. I am not worried. I am confident that Mythic is on track. I just think Blizzard has Mind Controlled a lot of people and made them jump off the cliff into the lava of Blackrock Mountain and now they can't break the thinking mold put in their head from 3 years of WoW.

Only a complete novice or someone totally distracted playing as a Warrior Priest would never heal.
I know my first 10 minutes I barely healed. I was completely in the "OMFG, I AM PLAYING WAR!!!!!!111". Healing is easy and natural, at least for the Warrior Priest class. Even a completely offensive specced tactics Warrior Priest would still have a good ability to heal. This isn't going to become some "oh noes, shadowform priest, no healz for me, /cry" game.
Relax, smoke this and don't worry so much about being pigeonholed into a healbot because a whole bunch of new WAR players are still in a PvE games abominable PvP mindset.

Assumptions. :rolleyes:

[Gothyk]

Best way I found in "pvp" is to don't piss off healers by yelling at them. Play with them and play well. Stick close to one and help defend them when they are being attacked, if you can. If they are a good player and a nice person they will throw heals your way when they can. If you are showing them you are worth a heal they are more inclined to do so. If you are being a twit and just not paying attention and just expecting it, then you deserve to die and have them laugh at you. :rolleyes:

[Thoden Firehammer]

Best way I found in "pvp" is to don't piss off healers by yelling at them. Play with them and play well. Stick close to one and help defend them when they are being attacked, if you can. If they are a good player and a nice person they will throw heals your way when they can. If you are showing them you are worth a heal they are more inclined to do so. If you are being a twit and just not paying attention and just expecting it, then you deserve to die and have them laugh at you. :rolleyes:


Heh i've seen many bad healers and many good healers, i've also seen healers who abuse their influence by making people think they actualy NEED him, thoes are the ones I disike the most.

But it's a good thing I see very few of thoes.

[sonofsigmar]

Best way I found in "pvp" is to don't piss off healers by yelling at them. Play with them and play well. Stick close to one and help defend them when they are being attacked, if you can. If they are a good player and a nice person they will throw heals your way when they can. If you are showing them you are worth a heal they are more inclined to do so. If you are being a twit and just not paying attention and just expecting it, then you deserve to die and have them laugh at you. :rolleyes:

QFT, well said. I like playing support, so I look out for the best player around and keep them up and going. 99% of the time, the best candidate around isnt screaming ffs heal. its actually easy to identify who is doing a good job.

I remember a simplistic BG such as WSG was won simply because a warrior and myself (paladin) went for the flag while the alliance and horde lolnubs farmed each other. I heal someone who is worth a heal, not because they scream at me, they earn the right.

[Vaeronthar]

But... you do need a healer. The same way you need a tank and DPS...

[Gothyk]

You don't NEED a healer to play. But, getting heals along the way good or bad can some times go a long way. I would rather stick with a good healer then a bad healer but i am more then happy to take anyones heal that wants to throw one on me. Many a times people are in a long fight and you get to the point where you are at like 5% health one more hit and you can kill him but if he hits first you die. ANY heal right there can help.
Solo play in pvp does not go far, a team effort always gets you further

[spoonlamp]

"FFS HEAL!'

"Really? you want a heal? KMA!"

More likely this comment would be from some dps type who ran away from the team and Kamikazes 3 black orcs and their 6 choppa friends on the other side of the map. I am also willing to bet that the "FFS HEAL!" guy will be a former WoW fury warrior with a tendency to run way out in front of the team in AV and then scream like the little weenus he is about how all the healers suck and we would be winning now if only he had been healed when he wanted to be healed.

Warrior Priest heals work on the move and are fast (and dirt AP cheap if RF is built up). Plus we have to heals that work off the melee mechanic, one being a HOT so this discussion is really a bunch of ex-WoW types wondering whether they will have their pocket healer so they can go get leet maximum face meltage.
Oh and we have a heal aoe that also does a damage aoe as well.
And we have Tactics that also provide heals, some off the melee mechanic, some just give a decent HOT.
We have heals and buffs out the wazoo.
I was worried that the Warrior Priest would get pigeonholed into a healbot spot....then I played the game. I am not worried. I am confident that Mythic is on track. I just think Blizzard has Mind Controlled a lot of people and made them jump off the cliff into the lava of Blackrock Mountain and now they can't break the thinking mold put in their head from 3 years of WoW.

Only a complete novice or someone totally distracted playing as a Warrior Priest would never heal.
I know my first 10 minutes I barely healed. I was completely in the "OMFG, I AM PLAYING WAR!!!!!!111". Healing is easy and natural, at least for the Warrior Priest class. Even a completely offensive specced tactics Warrior Priest would still have a good ability to heal. This isn't going to become some "oh noes, shadowform priest, no healz for me, /cry" game.
Relax, smoke this and don't worry so much about being pigeonholed into a healbot because a whole bunch of new WAR players are still in a PvE games abominable PvP mindset.

Assumptions. :rolleyes:

Aha! Assurances from the horses mouth! This is what we need - experience of the game! Thanks for posting, takes a lot of the "what if" out of the build. :)

[Der_Eisenhans]

"Come to me, AoE HEal is coming up!"

Really, since we will have an AoE heal, I will just spam "To me, sons of Sigmar!" everytime I can use it and it seems logical to do so.

Well except if I have room to breathe, but then, healing is no problem anyway.

[WastedTrojan]

I had a druid alt in waiting on warhammer and I played as a balance/resto mix, just enough resto to get nature's swiftness. I could heal and heal well but also nuke well, if anyone told me to just heal and stop attacking thats the last time they could expect to see a heal from me. Ive even gone as far as watching the guy die while i run around him in travel form and then hump is corpse.

[Garok]

On the Demo I played @ Gamesday (as Warrior priest) you did not seem to have too perma heal (takes a while to grind peoples health down so have plenty of time to stop mele and chuck a heal in), infact due to cool downs on healing perma healing was impossible. As long as you can watch the group health bars and top up when needed you should be fine.

The damage/healing machanics are alot different to DAOC and WoW so it seemed alot easier to multi task.

[heavyhebrew]

Garok, did you love the health bars being on peoles name tags?
I did, makes it really easy to toss a heal on the fly while staying in the thick of it and not be stuck staring at the party board.

[Veridun]

Well for me, I'm going to do what I do in WoW, as a veteran ret paladin.
If the subject shows interest in teamwork and respects me, aka been polite and not rude, I'll gladly heal him up and help him out of his situation as best as I can.
But if the subject chooses to be rude and demanding, I'll just sit tight and continue to do what I do, and watch him die there.

But anyway, I expect to see no noobs from WoW over in WAR, cause I believe the players here are matured. :)

[Kragga Tworunes]

But anyway, I expect to see no noobs from WoW over in WAR, cause I believe the players here are matured. :)


Here, maybe once the game is released not a chance. There will we many players from WoW to this game, it's just too huge a name and probably the only real competiton that other game faces in the next 5 years.

You'll see alot of familiar annoying faces I'm sure.

Which is why I hope they have an RP server, it usually scares away the kiddies.

[Myling]

I shall be kind to those who ask kindly.

[bartemus]

If someone is yelling for a heal they probably don't deserve one

[Evander]

I'm a excellent support player. Damage being my main focus and healing my second.
And I never failed at it, ever. But, if ever I do get a message as such. The reaction is simple: Ignore the geezer.

The fact that he needs heals so bad is either because he sucks at playing and that he's dieing to fast, or because he doesn't understand that 75% of your health is more than enough to engage a second battle.

I did this in WoW, became a Paladin Healing leader/Class Leader while my speccs were Retri/Holy (with the accent on Retri). Sure I wasn't the greatest healer by the numbers, but I knew what leadership was about and I damn-well knew HOW to heal and WHEN to heal.
If you are able to lead 15 healers in a 40 man raid and teach them how to heal perfectly while you're still in PvP specc than I take it I'm not to bad at it. (15 was the max amount of people I've ever led, I don't recall having that done very often)

In PvP I did my damage, was mostly somewhere in the top 7. But I learned myself how to heal a closer partner in need of aid and to buff everyone before a battle started of after one had taken place. That's the way I stayed alive, by keeping my party alive.

When anyone asked me to: "HEAL FFS!", they will be sure to die the first.

[Ravanos]

the response I know I will get is the "Ravanos wtf are you doing ... get away from the tank and stop fighting the mob"

I use to constantly get that when SOE first introduced the "Battle Cleric" line for the inquisitor.

[Riggs]

Best way I found in "pvp" is to don't piss off healers by yelling at them. Play with them and play well. Stick close to one and help defend them when they are being attacked, if you can. If they are a good player and a nice person they will throw heals your way when they can. If you are showing them you are worth a heal they are more inclined to do so. If you are being a twit and just not paying attention and just expecting it, then you deserve to die and have them laugh at you. :rolleyes:
In my experience in WoW (waiting on warhammer) I have come to realize that only 1/10 healers actually heal. Seen most "healers" be fighting in a 2v2, they get ignored since their damage is laughable while the other person gets beat down, then once said character is dead they can easily dispose of the other person.

This is why I'm leaning towards being a healer, but at the same time my friends are saying they want to be healers, so I think I might end up being a Witch Hunter or something. But if were Destruction i'm 90% sure I'll be a Zealot regardless.

[Amar]

Depends if I know the guy... if he's in my group, and how he asks. How he asks takes precedence over it all. If there are a million exclamation points I am going to laugh at him but I'll still probably throw him a rez.

I usually play hybrid healers so I don't have to worry about getting heals myself so I'm sure as hell not going to worry about other peoples safety over myself unless I am playing that group roll.

I usually solo though.

[Thoden Firehammer]

I usually solo though.


I doubt soloing in WAR PvP will be an option

[Garok]

Garok, did you love the health bars being on peoles name tags?
I did, makes it really easy to toss a heal on the fly while staying in the thick of it and not be stuck staring at the party board.

Always been a keybind type healer here (just find it abit quicker to get a target and heal). Is nice for outta group healing though.

[Creslan]

So you're a warrior priest, and you are madly whacking away at your opponents, making sure to have enough righteous fury to supply buffs and heals to your team. An ally notices that you are fighting instead of constantly healing. Inevitably, this culminates in him sending you the following message:

"FFS HEAL!"

Now, being the warrior priest, what is your reaction?


Being the selfless person I am I respond with :

"FFS don't get hit, then you wont need to yell, FFS HEAL"

[Veridun]

Well there are also some players who take heals for granted, or rather a nearby healer. For example this melee dude rushes 'suicidely' into the melee frontier, doesn't care for his hp % as he sees a healer near him, so he just continues smashing things with his hp running low (but the healer may not be focusing on him and having his own problems or something like that, aka bugged down). And when the melee dude dies, he screams at the healer there.
I'm sure most of us here have been in such a scenario, being the healer/healer hybrid class?

[Fyaniz]

You'll see alot of familiar annoying faces I'm sure.

As long as they aren't Furor or Tigole I think I can shake the nightmares. :)

[Fusko]

Furor or Tigole
Ahhhhhh! Ahhhh! Get it away! Get it away....


If I roll a healing class, I'm going to put healing as a priority over damage, simply because there are those in my group that can do more damage, and with a healer they'll get a lot more accomplished. When I play a healer I usually keep an eye on my group mates while I do damage/throw up debuffs/buffs, and if one gets low I heal them. I've never been one to sit back and watch a fight, like I've seen so much in that other game.

If someone yells at me to heal, I'll probably check out their stats assuming its in a BG, and if they've proven to be doing good I'll heal them. No use in being a dink about it, and chances are, if you end up healing them they'll probably end up being nice to you in the end. Sometimes people say things they don't mean, and PvP can get quite angering at points. And like Josh said 'People can get... salty in the thick of battle.' Its a game, no biggy.

[Snuggans]

If someone yells at me to heal, I'll probably check out their stats assuming its in a BG, and if they've proven to be doing good I'll heal them.

if they're still alive!

[Festo]

if a healer tried not to heal me i wont block the big greenskin from hitting him

not that i use broken English and numbers to convey that i require a heal

[Myling]

In games like this (where you can't really go out of mana) I'll probably heal random people more often, as i can much better afford it.

And as it's a mass pvp game I'll probably throw AoE heals around all the time. ;)

[abr4]

Do what i used to do with my lvl 70 dwarf priest in WoW, stand next to them and watch them die, then /spit on them and run away :evil:

This is usually the response I expect from bad players.

There was that one situation in Arathi Basin (domination style map) in WoW I remember.

I was the last survivor of an assault team for the middle node of the map which was previously attacked and we still had time to defend it (one minute before it becomes granted for the assaulting team) and I was facing two low hp melee classes. Now as a frost mage you have an easy and quick method of disposing such oppenents with frost nova / ice lance spam so I managed to finish them off and defend the node just in time.

A druid rides up to me to help further defend it. At that time I was low on HP but still had a good portion of my mana left. Usually I would eat now to regain the lost HP as food is nothing hard to come by as a mage, but I saw two more attackers coming to get us, about 10 seconds away still. So I type "heal pls" as the druid had still full mana and hitpoints. No response or action whatsoever.
The attackers were closing in, probably just 5 seconds away now, I stressed out and typed "omg heal" as it would be easy for them to oneshot me and kill the druid two on one.
No heal, but the druid said "fu noob".
Luckily the attackers weren't the brightest and ignored me while attacking the druid. We managed to kill them and afterwards as I was drinking and eating to reg to full I asked the druid why he didn't heal me as we could easily have lost the node (and probably the battle too, as it was pretty late in the game and a critical moment).
So as a response to my question the druid starts to rant that "noobs like me" "constantly screaming for heal" should just " off" and "shut up" and he would gladly see me die in the next wave off attacks and how he would /dance on my corpse afterwards, because it's his char and he would play it how he wants.
Even if it meant that we would lose the battle? Yes, he answered.

Great player that druid.

[Veridun]

This is usually the response I expect from bad players.

There was that one situation in Arathi Basin (domination style map) in WoW I remember.

I was the last survivor of an assault team for the middle node of the map which was previously attacked and we still had time to defend it (one minute before it becomes granted for the assaulting team) and I was facing two low hp melee classes. Now as a frost mage you have an easy and quick method of disposing such oppenents with frost nova / ice lance spam so I managed to finish them off and defend the node just in time.

A druid rides up to me to help further defend it. At that time I was low on HP but still had a good portion of my mana left. Usually I would eat now to regain the lost HP as food is nothing hard to come by as a mage, but I saw two more attackers coming to get us, about 10 seconds away still. So I type "heal pls" as the druid had still full mana and hitpoints. No response or action whatsoever.
The attackers were closing in, probably just 5 seconds away now, I stressed out and typed "omg heal" as it would be easy for them to oneshot me and kill the druid two on one.
No heal, but the druid said "fu noob".
Luckily the attackers weren't the brightest and ignored me while attacking the druid. We managed to kill them and afterwards as I was drinking and eating to reg to full I asked the druid why he didn't heal me as we could easily have lost the node (and probably the battle too, as it was pretty late in the game and a critical moment).
So as a response to my question the druid starts to rant that "noobs like me" "constantly screaming for heal" should just " off" and "shut up" and he would gladly see me die in the next wave off attacks and how he would /dance on my corpse afterwards, because it's his char and he would play it how he wants.
Even if it meant that we would lose the battle? Yes, he answered.

Great player that druid.

Well you did say please... by the way in that situation, were all your hp pots on c/d ?

[abr4]

Yes and wouldn't have restored enough anyway.

[Chillaxe]

In War letting someone die costs us all realm points ....nuff said

[Arathan]

I would definitely heal him as necessary, I don't change the way I play because someone gets worked up unless I've been doing something badly in which case I try to improve.
I play to win, and refusing to heal someone because they get worked up in a battle and yell for heals is stupid and immature.

If the person makes it impossible for me to keep him alive (running way out of range etc) and then yells at me for not healing him I will keep doing my best to heal him and the group but when I have time I might explain to him what he did wrong and what he could have done to make it possible for me to keep him alive. That way he can improve too.

In short, I don't withhold heals because someone is being rude. Because I'm not an immature git who gets butthurt when someone doesn't understand my feelings and hardships.

If someone complains that I'm not standing back and healing as a WP, he'll get a "You're still alive, am I right?".

[Ac1dBurns]

Great post to the person above me; couldn't have said it better. If I see a teamate or ally who needs healing I will heal that person. If you simply let them die then you have at least one more enemy that you or someone else will have to kill. A good example is when I was watching a show on history channel, two pilots in WW2 engaged in combat. One was beaten up real badly and I don't remember the exact reason, but the pilot who was rockin it was being nice and let his prey go (which is great, two thumbs up for fantastic morale :D). So if I remember correctly they tipped their wings to each other in salute and parted their own ways. Well, the guy who was granted his life came back and shot down twenty-something other enemy planes for the remainder of the war. I guess what I'm trying to say is I will heal a player, no matter how obnoxious he or she is, so they have a chance to take down a couple more baddies. Just my two cents though, and don't start flaming me now cuz I know most of us are just goofing off. I mean, after all, it is just a game. BUT ITS WAR!!!! :p

[sithborn]

respect the healer-thank the healer-protect the healer

do them in any order but do them all



healers who let everyone die on don't get any of em but ya most are good to have all three done for them.

[Kelepingon]

Meh... they said all classes will be able to heal even if they are not in the fight, Just they wont heal as well. The way I see it is if the team starts out together and you get a few wacks on the assist trains target you should back off and look at group health bars becuase Im sure someone will need a heal once you do. I know one thing healing a member Is far more important then getting the last hit on an enemy... remember there are other classes that dps ONLY, but you are the only healer so dont wait for someone and show a little loving.


PS. I have been thinking about rolling a marauder since I wanted to play something different from a support class, but after reading this post I think im going to have to be a zealot because to many self centered people who wont know how to work as a team. I would rather have a Pug DPS then a pug healer. At least the DPS will Dps but I stand players who dont Heal when they have the ability to heal!!!

[shotgunbadger]

Honestly, what's with all the jerks here?

Yea, the old 'ffs heal!' is rude, but still regardless of HOW that person got aggro/damage he's still a TEAM MATE and needs your healing. I know you want to be the uber cool hammer tosser, but you're also the healer, if I was the party leader and saw that I would first tell mister 'ffs heal!' to talk to other team members more respectfully, then kick the WP if they did the "lol I'm gonna watch him die and make jokes". Has there ALWAYS been this attitude of "Hur hur, I'm tha healer, so I'm god to you!" in MMOs? I'd just like to mention on my Order character I'll be a tank AT, so...in a party if you want to play the "I'm so important be nice to me and treat me like god" I'd be glad to stop taking your hits and let you play with the mob yourself.

[Thoden Firehammer]

Honestly, what's with all the jerks here?

Yea, the old 'ffs heal!' is rude, but still regardless of HOW that person got aggro/damage he's still a TEAM MATE and needs your healing. I know you want to be the uber cool hammer tosser, but you're also the healer, if I was the party leader and saw that I would first tell mister 'ffs heal!' to talk to other team members more respectfully, then kick the WP if they did the "lol I'm gonna watch him die and make jokes". Has there ALWAYS been this attitude of "Hur hur, I'm tha healer, so I'm god to you!" in MMOs? I'd just like to mention on my Order character I'll be a tank AT, so...in a party if you want to play the "I'm so important be nice to me and treat me like god" I'd be glad to stop taking your hits and let you play with the mob yourself.

Exactly, I agree with Shotgun.

I have a friend who's rolling runepriest with me, so I wont need a healer that much if I group up for anything XD

[Arathan]

Letting someone die because they are rude punishes everyone on your team.
Noone but a healer could get away with this type of behaviour and many have gotten to expect this. I have seen my share of primadonna healers in my days.

Imagine if a DPS refused to attack the enemy healer because someone said "Get the healer ffs!".
He'd be looking for a new group so fast he'd see afterimages of his groupbar.

[Lorik]

I think everyone's over-reacting here - Sure WPs can do dmg, but they're a healer's wet dream. They are the new "totem of win".

A WP has a healing aura around him, and has a heal that uses RF to heal the ENTIRE GROUP for the same amount as his SINGLE heal. So basically, we whack, whack, whack (which takes 1-2 seconds) then BIG HEAL, whack, whack, whack, BIG HEAL.

They've made healing fun. Don't worry - you'll have plenty of totems of win running around.

[heavyhebrew]

Mmm, totems of win; like pancakes made into waffles of awesomeness, so too, turn the totems of fail into totems of win.

As for some saying of us "being jerks" that is spoken, truly, by someone who never had the opportunity, nay, the privilege, of playing a primary healer in Blizzard's Magnum Opus of Failed PvP Implementation and Maximum FOTM Balance. AKA The Game That Ate Your Soul.

Sure, sometimes I understand the pressures of playing a game can lead to undue stress brought about by sublimation of unfocused rage "FFS HEAL!" but after hearing it match after match, day after day, you really begin to understand all that is truly diabolical. You want a heal? Really? Then buy a Health Pot BUWAHAHAHAHAHA /dance...../spit on your ragged corpse as I laugh maniacally at your fail.

end sarcasm, end rant.

Lorik is right but then, he is the 8lb, 7oz. baby Jesus.

Have a God Day, Sigmar Protects.

[ChaosBear]

Tanks and DPS classes can be selfish too you know.
Especially in open RvR. Seeing DPS classes running about fighting what ever they want and not giving a about what is happening to their healers and still expecting heals makes me really mad :twisted:

But since I'll be rolling in fixed groups of friends I don't have to worry about that.
I know the tanks and dps classes in my group will peel and rescue the "healer" and they know I will be healing them when they need to be healed.

[Lorik]

Mmm, totems of win; like pancakes made into waffles of awesomeness, so too, turn the totems of fail into totems of win.

As for some saying of us "being jerks" that is spoken, truly, by someone who never had the opportunity, nay, the privilege, of playing a primary healer in Blizzard's Magnum Opus of Failed PvP Implementation and Maximum FOTM Balance. AKA The Game That Ate Your Soul.

Sure, sometimes I understand the pressures of playing a game can lead to undue stress brought about by sublimation of unfocused rage "FFS HEAL!" but after hearing it match after match, day after day, you really begin to understand all that is truly diabolical. You want a heal? Really? Then buy a Health Pot BUWAHAHAHAHAHA /dance...../spit on your ragged corpse as I laugh maniacally at your fail.

end sarcasm, end rant.

Lorik is right but then, he is the 8lb, 7oz. baby Jesus.

Have a God Day, Sigmar Protects.


I love you so much.

I have no idea who you are, but you have experienced the same exact thing as me. Love of PvP, love of your teammates, hatred of the gameplay that makes good people become raging machines, cogs in a diabolical process brought about by lack of developer forethought.

Would you like me to bake you a cake? This cake is not a lie.

[Pangscar]

Yeah if some one is yelling for heals they are more than likely not deserving of them. By letting them die and be removed from the battle for a time will actually be making our side stronger in the long run. I plan on being in or running a good organized mature guild so that wont be a problem I will worry about. If that person who constantly yells is in a group or guild let them worry him. I simply wont group or guild with those types of people. Having said that though I will be playing a DPS class to start and when I see how the support classes are I may switch to one.

[Fusko]

You guys gotta remember, you can't type a full sentence while you're in a pinch, you gotta make it quick, because chances are the healer might not know you're low on health. Typing out, 'Can you heal me, please?' probably won't happen in the midst of battle as 'heal pls' more than likely will. And besides, even if they're rude, by healing them you're just increasing your team's chances of winning.

[Lorik]

You guys gotta remember, you can't type a full sentence while you're in a pinch, you gotta make it quick, because chances are the healer might not know you're low on health. Typing out, 'Can you heal me, please?' probably won't happen in the midst of battle as 'heal pls' more than likely will. And besides, even if they're rude, by healing them you're just increasing your team's chances of winning.

Oh yes, all veteran healers (especially those who know they're healers and get bored doing anything else) will tell you that we've got to know where the damage is being done so we can fix it.

The "FFS HeAL" is not so much of a command, a statement, or an idea, as it is a representation of a general attitude. And that attitude is shown in quite a few threads on this forum, in people saying things like "melee healers and hybrid healers are selfish" and "they're not real healers", etc.

For instance, playing a medic in TF2 (if you've not tried the medic yet, then zomg you're missing some fun stuff) I have to have my teammates yelling out when they need aid cause I need to know where to go so that I can create ownage. But they're always sure to say "thanks".

I think all this could be rectified if people would not only say "FFS HEALZ" - but then "THAXNK" afterward.

[abr4]

I think all this could be rectified if people would not only say "FFS HEALZ" - but then "THAXNK" afterward.

Ye, I always do that once the pressure is gone.