System Requirements?

[FillenClean]

Just a bit curious on what some of you beta guys are running, i'm going to build a new comp for Warhammer. Any info would be great.

Thanks.

[Rowhin]

Unfortunately, the guys in beta aren't supposed to post their speccs, because they are under an NDA at this time.
Sorry, but every thread asking the beta players to break the NDA will be closed :/

You might be interested in what the rest of us thinks (http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19315), though! :D

[Dracallo]

If it helps... I heard you needed a flux compassitor and a dual hampster wheel powered cooling system installed to run WAR

[Rafe]

If it helps... I heard you needed a flux compassitor and a dual hampster wheel powered cooling system installed to run WAR

Damn. I'll need to dual-gear a second hamster wheel in there. Might also add a dilithium refractor for good measure. You can never be too sure these days.

[Elethil]

Damn. Ahhh I was gonna make a lame hampter joke but forget it. :roll:

[Rafe]

I can lend you my cat, Elethil, if your hampster got "stuck" again. (wink wink, taps nose)

[Elethil]

Mr. Lemmiwinks likes to play. :rolleyes:

[dutch_gamer]

I have said it before in the countless of other threads about the system requirements, why do you really need to know it right now? It really shouldn't matter if you would only next year. Why? Because you don't need that new computer right now, before you can even play Warhammer.

The best advise I can give the OP is to just save some money for whatever computer you can buy in the stores at the moment, because chances are the game will playable on almost any computer that is being sold in stores right now. And then once you do know the actual specs and you do meet the requirements with your current computer, you still have some extra cash laying around for something else, or just for a future purchase of whatever.

[Joeydevil]

I have said it before in the countless of other threads about the system requirements, why do you really need to know it right now? It really shouldn't matter if you would only next year. Why? Because you don't need that new computer right now, before you can even play Warhammer.

The best advise I can give the OP is to just save some money for whatever computer you can buy in the stores at the moment, because chances are the game will playable on almost any computer that is being sold in stores right now. And then once you do know the actual specs and you do meet the requirements with your current computer, you still have some extra cash laying around for something else, or just for a future purchase of whatever.

It might matter to someone who needs to buy a computer because it might not play on the one they have.

[Dracallo]

I can lend you my cat, Elethil, if your hampster got "stuck" again. (wink wink, taps nose)

I believe you are thinking about gerbles getting stuck in places...

[mongoose]

Unfortunately, the guys in beta aren't supposed to post their speccs, because they are under an NDA at this time.
Sorry, but every thread asking the beta players to break the NDA will be closed :/

You might be interested in what the rest of us thinks (http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19315), though! :D

Please also keep in mind that the beta code hasnt really be optimized completely yet and one of the reasons why people with better systems tend to get the beta slots (i.e. so they can run that rough code ;))

So even if someone did break the NDA and reveal that info it most likely wont be representative of what the final specs will be. :cool:

[Ac1dBurns]

My guess is that if you can play WoW then you will be able to play WAR. Players who barely meet the requirements of WAR will have to turn down goodies such as AA, lighting, etc. New computers will be an advantage however because the more powerful your machine, the better you can enjoy all the good stuff WAR will be able to offer. There is though, a line where the hardware is so superior to software that it would be pointless to have an extreme-performance machine just to run WAR. A good example is quad-core. Unless you want to run movies, listen to music, surf the internet, and play WAR all at the same time, it comes in handy. If you are just playing WAR however, it is basically useless if you're not a big multi-tasker, such as me. ;)

[Dulkal]

My guess is that if you can play WoW then you will be able to play WAR.

I think you can be pretty certain that they'll raise the bar somewhat. A system that was struggling with WoW probably won't cut it.

[WarMachine]

I belive the specs might be really specific at the last point they where running beta, as it sounded like some people with high end compers and codes where still not in. So I think it might fall down to speciffic processors and video cards. But, because the NDA is still in effect, I can't actually verify it, so its just a theory.

But this topic will likely be locked because it asked for Beta player's specs.

[Nofan]

Well i hope its not to low but still gives great grapphics. Even though i'm planing on buying a new dell at the end of april next year. ( Then im going to start warhammer online ) :p

[Ac1dBurns]

I think you can be pretty certain that they'll raise the bar somewhat. A system that was struggling with WoW probably won't cut it.

Oh no you are absolutely right lol ;). I wouldn't recommend anyone playing on min. system requirements anyway, but I do see where you're comming from. It is nice though that comps are getting cheaper and cheaper. I have a desktop that is nearly 3 yrs old (3.4 p4, 1GB RAM, nvidia 256mb vid card, etc), which cost me $2,000 at the time. Now you can get a system that totally blows that out of the water for around $900-1500. My motherboard in my desktop blew out a few months ago, and I am thinking of just buying a new desktop before WAR comes out, because I'm on my macbook as of right now and you can't play WAR on a mac. Not that I would want to anyway. :p

[sx66gns]

Scalability in this day & age of gaming is of the utmost importance , hence wow's success any mom can buy her kid the game and it will run , even on a onboard intel chip! I knew a guy with an 800mhz dell with 386mb and an mx400 running wow raids , he couldn't see roads but he could get purples - lol

I wouldn't worry about it bud , if you can run todays games you'll be able to run this one , if not it would be commercial suicide.

On the other hand upgrading every couple / few years only makes sense , the game will be that much more enjoyable and with todays prices , you can build a hella sweet system for dirt cheap.

[Xorq]

I'm just hoping that this comp i'm currently using ( AMD Sempron 3000+ 1GB RAM and Nvidia 6600) is enough. Though I'm going to consider buying a new comp.

[Dracallo]

Just upped to the 8800GTS, AMD 6400+ ,crossfire MOBO, and 4 gigs of ram. I hope thats enough!

[kirbyy]

^I would hope so. if not I would have a looong way to go before I would be able to buy a compitable system ;)

[Obby]

Just upped to the 8800GTS, AMD 6400+ ,crossfire MOBO, and 4 gigs of ram. I hope thats enough!\
Just curious... a Crossfire capable motherboard, and an nVidia card? Seems like something is a little off, if you ask me!

[WarMachine]

I'm just hoping that this comp i'm currently using ( AMD Sempron 3000+ 1GB RAM and Nvidia 6600) is enough. Though I'm going to consider buying a new comp.
I'm guessing from what I've been reading, for beta no, for release, likley yes (if thats a single core 3gig processor), although it sounds like you will be between Recomended and required. I'd prolly jump to 2 gigs of ram.

Though I truelly believe that the beta specs are really specific, thats why alot of people with high end computers are not in yet, although they have keys.

[Ranti]

I think you can be pretty certain that they'll raise the bar somewhat. A system that was struggling with WoW probably won't cut it.

If a PC was struggling with WoW it is probably time to throw it out, i have 4 year old Laptop that handles WoW with ease on max settings.

[Baron Khaine]

I would say a computer that can handle WoW on decent settings, as in like not glitchy graphics, stuff like that, will be able to handle WAR on low settings, my computer can handle WoW on top settings, so I reckon that will be ok for WAR, if not for the top settings then for medium and I can upgrade later on.

[Nofan]

How about VISTA + NVDIA support? Apparantley the vista drivers are causing low FPS in many games. e.g 8600 is getting 20fps on ut3.

[Baron Khaine]

How about VISTA + NVDIA support? Apparantley the vista drivers are causing low FPS in many games. e.g 8600 is getting 20fps on ut3.

As far as I remember, when my guild got notified we were in, and the guild leader had to pick 30 people, and he made mention that Vista players would not be allowed into the beta at this moment in time, so i'm thinking just Xp at release?

[malavhe]

As far as I remember, when my guild got notified we were in, and the guild leader had to pick 30 people, and he made mention that Vista players would not be allowed into the beta at this moment in time, so i'm thinking just Xp at release?

I haven't heard of any current major MMO (new or old) that doesn't play on Vista. Vista is rapdily becoming the standard OS on new computers sold through large retail chains and it will be even more so by March 2008. I'm pretty sure the game will play on Vista at release. You might get a lower framerate but this is not a twitch FPS game like UT3. .

[dutch_gamer]

I haven't heard of any current major MMO (new or old) that doesn't play on Vista. Vista is rapdily becoming the standard OS on new computers sold through large retail chains and it will be even more so by March 2008. I'm pretty sure the game will play on Vista at release. You might get a lower framerate but this is not a twitch FPS game like UT3. .

Sure, the game will most likely be playable on Vista but your other remark isn't exactly true. At the moment Microsoft has allowed the large retail chains to supply XP until next year. Most people still don't even want to have Vista, not even on their new computer. Right now, a good amount of people are reverting back to XP, because of issues with Vista. At the moment Vista is simply not rapidly becoming the standard OS, not even on new PCs, until they release SP1 or probably even SP2.

[Nofan]

I haven't heard of any current major MMO (new or old) that doesn't play on Vista. Vista is rapdily becoming the standard OS on new computers sold through large retail chains and it will be even more so by March 2008. I'm pretty sure the game will play on Vista at release. You might get a lower framerate but this is not a twitch FPS game like UT3. .


During the vista release World of Warcraft had major issues with vista, even at the moment Wow Doesn't run vista as nicley as xp does.

[Dracallo]

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Just curious... a Crossfire capable motherboard, and an nVidia card? Seems like something is a little off, if you ask me!


No its the nvidia crosshair board....

Here look...


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131593

sorry! lol

[Ac1dBurns]

I am fairly sure by the time WAR is released it will be able to run well on Vista. I believe Vista will release their first major update at the beginning of January, and it will hopefully fix a variety of issues. Only thing if you have Vista be prepared to upgrade to more RAM for WAR. I myself will hopefully have a new desktop by that time, and will have 3-4 gb of RAM. Start saving. :p

[Nerissa]

Just upped to the 8800GTS, AMD 6400+ ,crossfire MOBO, and 4 gigs of ram. I hope thats enough!


Er, it's an MMO. What are you trying to do, nuke the MMO? :p



(That machine will probably far exceed even the recommended specs)

[Goldenheart]

Just upped to the 8800GTS, AMD 6400+ ,crossfire MOBO, and 4 gigs of ram. I hope thats enough!

agreed with above post. That system is future proof at least for the next year and a half.
I think If you can play Guild Wars (expansion) on full settings, you can play WAR without a doubt.

[Mo0rbid]

XFX 7600GT XXX
AMD 64 x2 3800+
Corsair 2048mb 533mhz RAM

That's what I have and I'm quite positive I'll be able to run the game on highest settings without any trouble. And you can get an equally good computer for almost nothing

I can play Rainbow six vegas, oblivion, ut3, cod4 without fps problems

[dutch_gamer]

agreed with above post. That system is future proof at least for the next year and a half.
I think If you can play Guild Wars (expansion) on full settings, you can play WAR without a doubt.

Heck, that computer is future proof for far more than 1.5 years. He may not be able to play on max settings any more after a certain point, but it will certainly play all the games coming out in the next 4 to 5 years. And I don't believe anyone who posts their specs truly wonders if they can play the game, it is more a matter of e-peen than anything else.

[makae]

6400 amd I'am buying a new graphics card and i got 2.5gigs of ram or something close to that most likely this card =0 XFX GeForce 8600 GT XXX 256MB PCIe & COH Game (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3048552&Sku=P450-8650)

*edit* Think that will be fine for WAR and for the next couple years???

[Xorq]

I'm going to buy a new comp soon probably something like this:
AMD Athlon 4400+X2 (or possibly a little higher)
Nvidia 8600GT
2 GB RAM
:D

[Chrismorris]

Thinking about buying a new PC, have two im debating on buying the first is:

Processor:
Intel® Core™ 2 Duo E4500 2.2GHz 2MB Cache 800MHz FSB
Graphics Processor:
320MB NVIDIA® GeForce™ 8800 GTS
Memory:
2GB - 2 x 1024MB

What do you guys think, anygood? as im a total spaz on PC specs etc.

[Goldenheart]

I suggest waiting till the 9 series graphics cards from Nvidia get realeased (around christmas time). Then the 8 series cards will get cheaper, by alot me thinks.

[makae]

I suggest waiting till the 9 series graphics cards from Nvidia get realeased (around christmas time). Then the 8 series cards will get cheaper, by alot me thinks.

Are you positive? :eek: lol I hope

[Oasis]

as long as you dont have a 2004 comp...like me your alright. I would guess more than needed to play WoW but less than Vanguard.

[Chrismorris]

as long as you dont have a 2004 comp...like me your alright. I would guess more than needed to play WoW but less than Vanguard.

lol Have a 2004 comp atm, but it plays WoW fine. Well it did when i used to play it a few months ago

[Goldenheart]

Are you positive? :eek: lol I hope
positive from all the chat i've been hearing. Remember when the 7 series cards were released? The prices were like the 8 series cards now. But when the 8 series came out *BOOM!* Price drop!

[makae]

positive from all the chat i've been hearing. Remember when the 7 series cards were released? The prices were like the 8 series cards now. But when the 8 series came out *BOOM!* Price drop!

That's good to hear lol when are they supposed to come out?:oops:

[Dracallo]

Er, it's an MMO. What are you trying to do, nuke the MMO? :p



(That machine will probably far exceed even the recommended specs)

Im a soldier. Overkill has been brainwashed into my personality.

[Ac1dBurns]

For all those 2gb ram users out there, including me, I would suggest upgrading to 3 or 4gb by the time WAR comes out. Sure you can have 2gb (which is a lot, but not as much as it use to be) and you can run everything perfectly fine, but with Windows Vista and WAR, I will probably have 3 or 4gb of ram. There will be a service pack for Vista before the launch of WAR however, and that will hopefully fix any problems with using up a lot of memory, but I want the most out of my system and WAR, and with the new video cards comming out, that'll suck it up too.

Like I said though, 2gb of ram is perfectly fine, actaully better than fine, but I would think with all the new software and hardware comming out, and seeing that newer comps are having more than 2gb, it would be a safe bet of having 3 or 4gb. I could just be talking out of my though, and am posting this just more a higher post count. ;)

- For users who still have XP, disregard everything I said as 2gb will rock out. I need to buy a new desktop myself, as I currently have a macbook.

[jaide]

Dual channel is a good thing... I keep hearing people posting unusual amounts of ram but keep in mind that running your memory in dual channel mode is a plus ^^

Also in order to really take advantage of anything over something like 3.75 gigs you'll need a 64 bit OS

[Ac1dBurns]

That is true. Btw, how is Windows Vista Ultimate (64bit version)? Does anyone here have it?

[Acanthus]

Speaking of memory, does anyone know what the deal is with DDR3? Is that something those of us that are buying new comps should wait/pay extra for? Or at least a DDR3 mobo? What are your thoughts?

[malavhe]

Speaking of memory, does anyone know what the deal is with DDR3? Is that something those of us that are buying new comps should wait/pay extra for? Or at least a DDR3 mobo? What are your thoughts?

I think DDR3 RAM is not worth it yet. A DDR3 mobo will last longer but overall you have to decide if the slight performance gain is worth the extra money. You'll probably buy a new computer in 3-4 years when DDR3 has really matured.

[liammcl]

Well apparantly, if you can play World of Warcraft on your computer, you are meant to be able to play Warhammer Online. System Specs for WoW:

Min Spec:
Windows 98/ME/2000/XP
PIII 800 MHz or AMD Athlon 800 MHz
256MB RAM
32 MB 3D graphics card
4GB Hard Disk Space

Recommended Spec:
PIV 1.5 GHz or AMD XP 1500+
512MB RAM
64 MB 3D graphics card

[malavhe]

Well apparantly, if you can play World of Warcraft on your computer, you are meant to be able to play Warhammer Online. System Specs for WoW:
...That would surprise me a great deal, especially since they are oly allowing people with good performance on their new computers play the current build. I don't think that code optimization will make such a differance.

My (out of the blue) guess on min specs:
1.8 GHz processor
128MB graphics card
512 MB RAM

recommended:
dual core 2.0GHz
256 MB graphics card
2GB RAM

[Acanthus]

I think DDR3 RAM is not worth it yet. A DDR3 mobo will last longer but overall you have to decide if the slight performance gain is worth the extra money. You'll probably buy a new computer in 3-4 years when DDR3 has really matured.

Thanks for the feedback, Malavhe. I'm trying to balance longevity and cost-effectiveness in my new box build, but there's too many technologies to keep track of.

[Dollie]

For all those 2gb ram users out there, including me, I would suggest upgrading to 3 or 4gb by the time WAR comes out. Sure you can have 2gb (which is a lot, but not as much as it use to be) and you can run everything perfectly fine, but with Windows Vista and WAR, I will probably have 3 or 4gb of ram. There will be a service pack for Vista before the launch of WAR however, and that will hopefully fix any problems with using up a lot of memory, but I want the most out of my system and WAR, and with the new video cards comming out, that'll suck it up too.

Listen to this guy. I'm running Vista on my computer, and I can tell you from experience... right now, it NEEDS 4gb to run anything I put on it. I'm a graphic-intensive user, between gaming and the graphic design I do. HP originally only suggested 2gigs, but they're crazy. If you don't have 4gb, be prepared for your computer to crash.

[jaide]

running vista 64 ultimate and it has been surprisingly stable

[Goldenheart]

If you are a UK player, I 100% suggest you get a new computer from these guys
http://www.cyberpowersystem.co.uk/

You can build your very own Gaming computer on that site.

[Ironhide]

Next year my computer will have a five year anniversary! hooray. Or a crisis.

My tactic is to wait until the system requirements is set in stone (or on paper) and then purchase a new computer.
That way i get what i need and hopefully not spending more money than necessary.

[Loekii]

That would surprise me a great deal, especially since they are oly allowing people with good performance on their new computers play the current build. I don't think that code optimization will make such a differance.

My (out of the blue) guess on min specs:
1.8 GHz processor
128MB graphics card
512 MB RAM

recommended:
dual core 2.0GHz
256 MB graphics card
2GB RAM

In my experience the code optimization actually makes a worlds of difference -- If that is the correct term. Basically the earlier phases tend to be intensive because of the 'debugging' software they run -- which is turned off by release. That is my understanding atleast.

Now, the question I have is not the 'min' system, but at what point does 'better computer specs', stop yielding better returns. Sort of like playing a standard DvD on the latest HD-DvD system, as opposed to the best DvD system.

It does not seem like WAR will be one of those games that makes the latest machine cry, so where does the improvement stop?

[Dracohouston]

In my experience the code optimization actually makes a worlds of difference -- If that is the correct term.

Yep, that's pretty much it, though it's not usually just the code that gets streamlined :)

There was speculation on the SA forums that 2 gig of ram is needed on your dxdiag to get into the beta. But we'll probably have to wait till it around the time the game goes gold to see the approximate specs :| I don't imagine they would be too high :)

[Mo0rbid]

OP If you're going to upgrade your computer then do yourself a favour and dont buy budget parts. In the long run you'll be happy that you spend a little extra cash.




My (out of the blue) guess on min specs:
1.8 GHz processor
128MB graphics card
512 MB RAM

That computer couldnt even run splinter cell : I

[malavhe]

That computer couldnt even run splinter cell : I
And yet people are suggesting that code optimization will make WAR playable on a WoW min specced computer.

Actually my estimate was not completly out of the blue, I looked at several MMOs released (or about to be released) this year and factored in that WAR should be playable on most systems. Below are the minimum requierments for some of these games (yes some of them don't qualify as true MMOs and they won't feature huge demanding RvR battes as WAR will, nevertheless....)

LotRO (http://www.lotro.com/index.php?page_id=52)
Intel Pentium 4 1.8Ghz or equivalent
RAM: 512MB
Graphics: 64 MB NVIDIA® GeForce® 3 or ATI® Radeon® 8500

Vanguard (http://mmostrategyguides.com/vanguard/system_requirements/vanguard_saga_of_heroes_system_requirements.html)
Processor 2.4 GHz Intel processor or 2400+ or higher model AMD processor
512 MB RAM
Vertex and Pixel Shader 2.0 compatible hardware with 128MB of texture memory

Hellgate London (http://www.hellgatelondon.com/system_requirements)
Processor: 1 .8GHz or faster (2.4GHz for Vista)
RAM: 1GB or more (2GB for Vista)
Video: DirectX 9.0c/10 compatible device w/ 128MB RAM or better and Pixel Shader 2.0 support; requires NVIDIA GeForce 6200/ATI Radeon 9000 chipset or greater

Tabula Rasa: (http://mmostrategyguides.com/system_requirements_-_tabula_rasa.html)
2.5 GHz Intel® Pentium® 4 or equivalent AMD™ processor
512 MB System RAM
128 MB Direct3D and Shader 2.0 compatible video card and DirectX 9.0 compatible driver

Fury (http://mmostrategyguides.com/system_requirements_-_fury.html)
CPU: Core Solo, Core Duo, Core 2, Pentium M, Pentium 4 (2GHz+), Pentium D
RAM: 512MB
GPU: ATI 9600 or better, nVidia GeForce 4Ti or better (excluding GeForce 5200)
VIDEO RAM: 128MB


I regarded LotRO as a good comparison in that it is a MMO which allowed beautiful graphics even for those lower speccs. But WAR will be released a full year after LotRO and the min speccs will have increased. That's why I put a 128MB graphics card as minimum. Looking again I would probably compare WARs min speccs to Hellgate:Londons (beta speccs) but I was giving WAR some more slack due to who the Devs are.
(They're good but I just don't consider them to be code optimization gods.)

I don't have the time atm but someone else might use the links supplied and suggest a hypothetical recommended spec that would allow you to run WAR on e.g. 'High' texture setting at 1280x1024 resolution, FPS>40. (I.e. good but not great graphics running smoothly)

[Mo0rbid]

The "minumum" and "recommended" you find on the box of your game means _nothing_

lets see here

Battlefield 2142
1.7Ghz
512MB RAM
128MB graphics card

Counter-Strike
Pentium 233 or AMD k6-2 300
32MB RAM
16-bits color graphics card


Look at those machines. Would they run that game? Hardly

and I have to say that theres a huge difference between "able to run the game" and "playable" / "enjoyable"