Tentacle grab being restricted to tentacle mutation only?

[Vankador]

Tentacle grab will lose much of its value if its restricted to only being used with the tentacle arm mutation.

I read an old article (maybe they've changed it since then) stating that Marauder mutations will be more or less random. So when you click on the mutate button, the Marauder will mutate its left arm into a random form.

This will definitely impact whether or not the Marauder will be kitable especially if they don't get any other close-in abilities.

[BowieHero]

pretty sure marauder chaos mutations aren't random anymore.

[Feigro]

We don't know. It's possible. Then again, they could merely have an ability where they extend their arm (mutated or not) and out bursts a tentacle that grabs the enemy and drags them to you. Then, the tentacle slithers it's way back into whatever hole it came from.

At the moment, the only mutations we've seen on a mechanic level are the Arm mutations. Additionally, according to the footage we've seen, it would appear that they're not random mutations.

That's not to say that there aren't abilities that don't express the theme that the Marauder is enfused with mutated chaos energy, Such as the above example. An action could very easily be called "tentacle grab" and have an animation of your character shooting a tentacle, without it actually requiring mutation work.

[VegJed]

From what other's posted about the marauder video that's out (I couldn't load the vid), the player was clearly pressing different buttons for the different mutations, so I'm pretty sure they're not random (at least, not to the degree of being roulette, which is what you're describing).

[Gemini]

I think Feigro has it right, it could come out of the mutated arm, or out of his chest, or anywhere really, grab em, and then dissapear back into the body.

[Elesarana]

We really don't know if it's random or not. It could be, or it might not be. Marauders probably aren't even in beta yet if they're not playable at Game Cons, so there's no beta leaks what so ever.

[Ranti]

We really don't know if it's random or not. It could be, or it might not be. Marauders probably aren't even in beta yet if they're not playable at Game Cons, so there's no beta leaks what so ever.

or it could simply be the case that they are still working on graphical issues, interface issues, other issues in that they aren't showable to the public

In essence, they need more beta work done.....

I Think all the classes are in, minus the elfs. I need to find the source thought, I think i read this somewhere, so it is only a think atm.


...well...minus there not being a beta running atm

[jkdfhk]

Lets use tentacle grab with my crab claw!
Ive done no reserch what so ever but the name Tentacle grab leads me to belive that it is only usable with said tentacle.

[Feigro]

Currently, mutations function like stances. The arm mutations at the very least, are not random. Additionally, there are only 3 of them.

So the above would further lead me to believe that abilities such as tentacle grab simply employ a tentacle as a graphic for the ability, that goes away after the animation is executed.

For example, a quick extension of his arm (either one) where a tentacle shoots out into the opponent and then recedes back into the arm, bringing the opponent with it. Much like Scorpion's signature ability, but likely more tentacle like.

[Foofmonger]

Currently, mutations function like stances. The arm mutations at the very least, are not random. Additionally, there are only 3 of them.

So the above would further lead me to believe that abilities such as tentacle grab simply employ a tentacle as a graphic for the ability, that goes away after the animation is executed.

For example, a quick extension of his arm (either one) where a tentacle shoots out into the opponent and then recedes back into the arm, bringing the opponent with it. Much like Scorpion's signature ability, but likely more tentacle like.

This is my current understanding as well.

It may be limited to say, bonesaw stance or something for some reason (balance issues), but we just dont know enough about it yet.

[Nightmare]

From the video I gather there are three mutations.

Claw - Blade - Mace

It looks as if the blade is damage orientated. The mace did a knock down move so perhaps it has more utility and defense. The claw really didn't show much but we might assume this is defensive.

I think the tentacle will be like it was mentioned above, an ability used in any form and it will just come out of your body/arm.

[pooter26]

We actually do know we saw as posted above 3 different button mutations a claw, axe, mace.

My guess is tentacle grab is a move which will be really cool. Very unlikely it is a mutation at this point. i hope the tentacle come out from the back of the marauder then reaches and grabs both the eneimes ankles really fast like a whip. when they first come out of the back the should be all wiggly and cool sprouting upwards then just speed towards the fleeing foe.

[Hardware]

**removed, found my answer**

[Disciple]

if you havnt got a tentacle for an arm.....how can you do a tentacle grab? i dont know how changing gifts will work, but perhaps it will be fast enough that one could snag someone with a tetacle then mutate to a claw.....or maybe run around with anther marauder with a tentacle so you can benefit from it.

[Chrismorris]

Lets use tentacle grab with my crab claw!
Ive done no reserch what so ever but the name Tentacle grab leads me to belive that it is only usable with said tentacle.

I must agree with the above quote, The clue is in the name ;)

[Gemini]

Just because the tentacle is not a permanent off-hand mutation dosn't mean it's not a mutation at all. Since we know we have three offhand mutations, and none of them are the tentacle, I think it's safe to assume the tentacle grab would cause a tentacle to mutate out of your arm, chest, whatever for the sole purpose of grabbing them, and then it would withdraw back into whatever bodypart it came from.

[Disciple]

in this months set of video blogs one of the chaos bosses...looks like one for the bastion stair, has a claw growing out of his side.


*maybe* when we reach a certain level we can have a crab claw for an offhand....and a tentacle thats growing out of our sides.

[Tyurion]

problem is with this is that if they are loyal to the lore it will be random. Because chaos is random. Its the most randomest thing in existence cos its randomness is unchallenged and it is basically random incarnate. Or, cause that will make marauders unhappy when their uber weapon is suddenly dropped by some strange squishy thing, they wont make it random.

All we can do is wait and see...

[Arijharn]

problem is with this is that if they are loyal to the lore it will be random. Because chaos is random. Its the most randomest thing in existence cos its randomness is unchallenged and it is basically random incarnate. Or, cause that will make marauders unhappy when their uber weapon is suddenly dropped by some strange squishy thing, they wont make it random.

All we can do is wait and see...

The thing is being loyal to the lore is almost a contradiction in itself in regards to the Marauder. Why? Because Marauders are missile fodder, it's the Chaos Warriors who are the high dps/tank type things and are more likely to be the ones to mutate in the first place.

[Baron Khaine]

Arij has it right on this one, sticking to the Lore would make for a really, really, really bad game.

Hell every chosen would be able to wtfpwn a whole army on there own if we were sticking to the Lore.

[Gemini]

Think of it this way, if you want. The Marauders of the Raven Host have attained such favor with the God of Change, that to better serve him, the rules of change do exactly that, change, so that these esteemed warriors to have a small element of control over their horrid yet wonderful gifts.
I need to word that a lot better, but you get the idea.

[NoneSuch]

Hell every chosen would be able to wtfpwn a whole army on there own if we were sticking to the Lore.

No they wouldn't.

[Baron Khaine]

I'm on about Lore Chosens, not Table Top Chosens. Lore Chosens are the one lead armies and such, they are the ones below the likes of Archaon, and in the Lore, they could easily destroy armies by themselves

[Tyurion]

I'm on about Lore Chosens, not Table Top Chosens. Lore Chosens are the one lead armies and such, they are the ones below the likes of Archaon, and in the Lore, they could easily destroy armies by themselves
Depends on who was leading the army. If a chosen attacked an army led by any combat special character theyd get pwnd.

[Tyurion]

Especially if any of the following characters where in it Tyrion, Borgut Facebeater, Grimgor Ironhide, Azhag the Slaughterer, Imrik, Karl Franz, Valten, Thorgrim Grudgebearer, Gotrek, Bugman, The White Dwarf, Shadowblade, Morathai, Malekith, The Slayer King, War-Mourner Garagrim, Grom the Paunch of Misty Mountain, Neferata, Deathmaster Sneetch, Giles, The Green Knight, Settra, Kalida, Luthor Huss, Count Todbringer, Orion the king in the woods, The Sisters of Twilight etc etc

[Baron Khaine]

Ok, a single Lore Chosen, against an Empire army, led by a Captain, no magical items no nothing, just an army of Empire soldiers against a Chosen of Tzeentch with all the powers and magicks of the gods flowing through him.

Then he would wtfpwn that army.

[Tyurion]

what if they had guns? if u apply a speeding cannonball to a chosen i think we know the result. Damn i just hammered myself if its a tzeentch chosen becuase magic would deflect it. Damn, damn, damn, damn, damn

[Baron Khaine]

He'd go Neo style on it, stop it in mid air than fire it straight back down the cannon barrel.