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Screwhealz
10-21-2007, 01:18 PM
This thread originally started as me asking if there were any videos of Archmages out there, now that there are videos out there this is more or less the thread to find and post links of them at. I'm going to keep looking for more and so should you; if you find any please share them with us here. Even though the game's been delayed until fall I'm guessing that Mythic will be releasing some nice footage of Archmages in action sometime soon so keep checking in for updates.

Videos: in order from oldest to newest
http://warhammervault.ign.com/View.php?view=Movies.Detail&id=104 (originally posted by frost089)
-Some Archmage footage at 3:35

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgsi6xXslX0 (originally posted by ChosenOne)
-Best footage of Archmage in combat to date.
Personal Thoughts:
This video is only 45sec long but quite a bit about the class can be seen from this short clip. First thing I noticed was the heal animations, and I'm sad to say that I really am disappointed. While some might consider the staff twirling cool I personally find it to be a tad to much and something that will get to be annoying because it is so lame. Was it really necessary to give elves, a race that already suffers from ridicule, an animation like this that will only make things worse? I would have much rather seen an animation that involved the Archmage holding the staff in one hand, charging up (casting) the spell and then possibly raise the staff (still in the one hand) into the air at the end to finally cast the spell on the target. I must say that having to look at that animation every time I cast a heal is a major turn off for me, and though some would consider it extreme, I will honestly now take a good look at shaman over Archmage because of that one reason. But to be completely honest I have to play the class before I make any drastic decission like that (who knows maybe female Archmages will have a less feminine heal cast, as unlikely as that sounds).

At around 0:28 in this video clip we get a glance at what appears to be an AoE spell cast by the Archmage, but then again there is no casting bar visable while he seems to be casting and no damage done shows up on the players combat text. It has since been confirmed that the fire AoE came from a Bright Wizard that can be seen in the top right of the screen just under the map. This makes me wonder what exactly the Archmage cast; perhaps he cancelled the cast right before it went off but then again it really looked like the cast went off.

All in all this is a decent video, but sadly the best that we have so far. With the delay on the release I feel that Mythic will be coming out with some decent gameplay footage in the months to come in order to keep followers of the game happy; hopefully they will throw the Archmage community a bone here and give us a legitimate gameplay video as they have with other classes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01P2pKYjKEo (originally posted by thelastlogan)
-Mostly footage of fellow Archmage character running around, but about 15sec of combat footage can be seen at 5:20. This is obviously low level combat so I didnt expect much, but still the animations seemed nice making me only wonder what the high level spell casts will look like...except the heals, after seeing those in previous videos I'm not sure I can really take looking at the twirl cast anymore.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mlh8a-YTywU&feature=user (also thelastlogan)
-Again just footage of an Archmage running around, but it is a nice way to see how they will move ingame.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=jplz7_Fyi64 (a Screwhealz original)
-A clip with a section of Archmage being played; filmed in Paris
Personal Thoughts:
Starting at 0:31 there is footage of an Archmage. He starts off casting some ability, at this point after watching it multiple times I'm still not sure if the AoE to the right was the Archmage or if the spell that hits the character on the far left what the Archmage had just cast.

From the start of the video the Archmage is getting beat on by a single Maurader. I am actually happy with the Archmages durability in this situation. The player was being beat on by a melee dps class which they specialize in killing and still managed to last a decent amount of time considering what little he did to keep himself up. If you notice only the second heal was cast on the player, the first was cast on a party member. I still hope they implement some type of magic shield that absorbs or reflects damage into the Archmage class.

Another thing I noticed was that there is spell pushback when the Archmage is hit by the Maurader. For some reason I feel this is the first time I have seen that in a WAR video (but then again I may be an idiot so who knows). Throughout the video it seems that the pushback didnt happen on the first spell but did on the heals. This could mean that either pushback only happens on healing spells or that in that one hit that that player received while casting that spell happened to not trigger the pushback. The pushback also seems to me a chance type of thing where it happens more that it doesnt (watch the bars during heal casts).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jVXeytQbI0
-Level 1 Archmage clip, probably breaks NDA so enjoy it while it lasts
Personal Thoughts:
Well there really isnt much to see in this video considering it is just a clip of a level 1 player killing a few mobs. But if you watch the rest of the video showing the Shadow Warrior and Swordmaster clips (also lvl 1) you can see that the Archmage's damage is pretty nice compared to them. While I know that all the careers can do damage in WAR and that many feel that most support classes will be able to heal roughly the same, but it just makes me wonder where Mythic will draw the line to balance healing and damage. Because personally I hope that the Archmage is more healing oriented...if not I guess there is Always the Runepriest.

dutch_gamer
10-21-2007, 01:26 PM
There are NO videos out there of the Archmage, other than the presentation of the career at the Leipzig convention. All they showed was art. The Archmage hasn't yet been playable at any convention and Mythic hasn't showed us any footage before. They have only showed us the Swordmaster and the Witch Elf. I assume the reason they only showed those two careers is because the Archmage simply wasn't ready to be shown to public, just like the Black Guard.

Screwhealz
10-21-2007, 01:30 PM
damn, hopefully they will release something in the next few weeks

dutch_gamer
10-21-2007, 01:46 PM
damn, hopefully they will release something in the next few weeks

It really depends if Paul Barnett will shows something on his videoblog. One thing we do know is that we will get more information about the Swordmaster, which is the career in the spotlight in the November newsletter. Heck, we have known about the Marauder career for many months, yet we only got to see footage of them in the last newsletter (well after they were featured in a previous newsletter). They will release something when they can and marketing allows them to do so. I am already glad that Mythic gives us this much information about a game still in development. We have gotten an insane amount of information and we can even play the game at conventions.

Nuralon
10-22-2007, 02:09 AM
Well of course I want to see more about the Archmage as everyone else, but I hope that it will not be in any comment or video from Paul Barnett. He could not have harmed the populaion of the High Elves more than with his lousy comments during the Leipzig show. If he does not like the race or the lore behind it`s up to him, but then he should stay away from the race at all.

wellsy
10-22-2007, 10:04 PM
Well of course I want to see more about the Archmage as everyone else, but I hope that it will not be in any comment or video from Paul Barnett. He could not have harmed the populaion of the High Elves more than with his lousy comments during the Leipzig show. If he does not like the race or the lore behind it`s up to him, but then he should stay away from the race at all.

What? You don't like Paul Barnett? Looks like this witch needs some burning! ;)

Seriously though, take it easy. High Elves always cop plenty of jests. Hell, I plan on playing one, and I would think the Asur genus to be Androgynius Crossdressius (for that matter, the Druchii are Androgynius Druggius and the Asrai are Androgynius Hippisius). Poking fun at Elves is always fun.

If you think the comments are inappropriate, then you really don't know how Paul works.

Dastion
10-23-2007, 04:25 AM
haha, think of it like this. Did Paul's comments hurt your opinion? Or did they make you that much more adamant about the race you've been waiting to hear about for so long? They are really milking the elves and dark elves for all of the anticipation they are worth, dribbling out bits. They've even specifically told us that they KNOW what the other classes are, so there is really nothing up in the air... they just want to play on the suspense and release some news ever so often to help pass the time until release.

Screwhealz
10-23-2007, 09:12 AM
haha, think of it like this. Did Paul's comments hurt your opinion? Or did they make you that much more adamant about the race you've been waiting to hear about for so long? They are really milking the elves and dark elves for all of the anticipation they are worth, dribbling out bits. They've even specifically told us that they KNOW what the other classes are, so there is really nothing up in the air... they just want to play on the suspense and release some news ever so often to help pass the time until release.

ya dont you just hate how they are dangling this over our heads, watching the elf community, actually most of the WAR community grow more and more eager each day. and no matter how much people decide to bash the elves, imo they have some of the most interesting and cool looking classes in the game.

Grungas Ironnose
10-23-2007, 11:46 AM
I'm a dwarf. It's in my nature to hate elves.

But if they make a White Lion of Chrace...I may be forced to make an alt. I just want them to release the god dam careers and be done with it!!!

Estebar
10-24-2007, 09:26 AM
I think Paul Barnett said in an interview somewhere that the High Elf Archmage was going to have some of the most visually spectacular spellcasting effects in the game, seeing as he's "the best wizard around" in Barnett's books.

wellsy
10-24-2007, 11:10 PM
It was the video in the newsletter.

And he said that he thought that they should give some of them to the Bright Wizard (yeah, in your dreams Paul :p, neneneneneee ne! :mrgreen:)

justsomeguy
10-29-2007, 07:17 AM
Paul has to poke fun at the elves to maintain street cred with the greenskins. He's working hard to make all of the races true to Warhammer lore.

Crunchie
12-23-2007, 04:47 PM
2 months on and 4 - 6 months before the game is released with still no Archmage footage of the 'greatest special affects in the game'. Blahh. I need something other than the career podcast to watch =(

I wonder if we'll ever get any while the NDA is still in place (and before the HE is playable in beta).

I think they should announce the final HE class in the January newsletter, and then release footage of all the classes that haven't been seen yet in the February newsletter =D That's a lot of wishful thinking though..

Kurganxy
03-01-2008, 06:00 AM
This is the strangest development process ive ever seen in an MMO. by now (assuming that everyone's speculations is correct and the game launches in june) we should atleast have a decent understanding of all the classes, but instead, we have classes that we know little to nothing about and one that has yet to be announced. Just weird. Im sure its to build suspense and all, but being a huge high elf fan its a but annoying :roll:

Eliphas-WorldBearer
03-01-2008, 06:05 AM
I think there holding onto their Archmage videos for a while due to the "the most powerful order magic user reduced to support/healing" epidemic...

frost089
03-07-2008, 03:52 PM
there is a small bit of footage of the Archmage here at 03:35

http://warhammervault.ign.com/View.php?view=Movies.Detail&id=104

ChosenOne
03-27-2008, 02:10 AM
I do believe this one is good to post. Enjoy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgsi6xXslX0

Silas
03-27-2008, 02:33 AM
Hm, couldn't make out quite that much from it, the healing spell animation is somewhat similar to the staff attack the archmage performs in the cinematic trailer though.

If the nuke at 0:28 came from the archmage I'm sooo sold ;)

Thanks for linking the vid :D

ChosenOne
03-27-2008, 02:40 AM
Hm, couldn't make out quite that much from it, the healing spell animation is somewhat similar to the staff attack the archmage performs in the cinematic trailer though.

If the nuke at 0:28 came from the archmage I'm sooo sold ;)

Thanks for linking the vid :D


Yeah I think those two fire aoe explosions were from the archmages. I seriously just love the high elf classes.

Screwhealz
03-27-2008, 06:48 AM
Nice find man...best vid of em to date

Mortissia
03-28-2008, 05:42 AM
I think the Archmage got off one offencive attack. There were two meteor storm looking attacks that seemed to originate from somebody to the right of the Archmage.

aegir
03-28-2008, 10:04 AM
Hey ScrewHeelz, it might be nice if you'd take the time, and put the links to the video's that others have posted in this thread in the first post. That way newbies can see all the videos in one click :)

Morelius
03-30-2008, 07:44 PM
Has anyone done a detailed analysis of this video yet and willing to share any thoughts and comments, facts and speculations? I would, but I am too lazy :-? (damn, and too honest too)

thelastlogan
03-30-2008, 08:30 PM
some here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01P2pKYjKEo

and here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mlh8a-YTywU&feature=user

Screwhealz
04-03-2008, 03:03 PM
Ok so this thread has been lacking in recent days, not at the fault of us as the Archmage community, but at the fault of the devs at Mythic. Why has there been such secrecy about the classes that will be in WAR? I know they were using this as a way to keep players waiting to see the next months news letter but lets be serious here, this is not like the surprise ending to a movie, it's like watching a preview where they blur out the faces of actors because the studio doesnt want the fans to know who is in the movie...rediculous? yes!

Another thing I have noticed is that for Archmages in particular, im pretty sure Knights of the Blazing Sun too but cannot say for sure, are seriously lacking in information that is being released about them. Both Sorceress and Disciple were announced after the the Archmage yet there are alread career overview videos of both of those classes on Ten Ton Hammer. Why is this? I personally cannot say because I really have no idea (who knows maybe Archmage animations are so epic that the animators are having trouble getting them into the game without causing a server wide crash everytime an Archamge decides to blow something up or save someone's life).



PS-check the screenie in my sig, its the best one I have seen so far of an Archmage doing anything but stand there

VeriusCarth
04-03-2008, 03:08 PM
Yeah I think those two fire aoe explosions were from the archmages. I seriously just love the high elf classes.

Nope, all of the fire aoes were from a Bright Wizard. If you look at 28 seconds, you can see the loin-cloth-type bits of his shirt, and his trousers and boots toward the top right. (Under the map.)

Sorry to disappoint. :(

Also - Did anyone notice the Witch Hunter with both a pistol and torch in one hand, toward the beginning of the video? :rolleyes:

ChosenOne
04-04-2008, 01:51 AM
Nope, all of the fire aoes were from a Bright Wizard. If you look at 28 seconds, you can see the loin-cloth-type bits of his shirt, and his trousers and boots toward the top right. (Under the map.)

Sorry to disappoint. :(

Also - Did anyone notice the Witch Hunter with both a pistol and torch in one hand, toward the beginning of the video? :rolleyes:

Ahhh, oh well. I still like the Archmage as my possible second High Elf class.

As far as witch hunters, yes they can use torches in some instances. I dont really know what its for but if you look at the Newsletter and the caption contest you will see the same.

http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/media/images/newsletters/03_2008/caption.jpg

VeriusCarth
04-06-2008, 08:23 AM
Ahhh, oh well. I still like the Archmage as my possible second High Elf class.

As far as witch hunters, yes they can use torches in some instances. I dont really know what its for but if you look at the Newsletter and the caption contest you will see the same.

http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/media/images/newsletters/03_2008/caption.jpg

No, I mean that she was holding both a Torch and Pistol in the same hand. It was an interesting bug.

ChosenOne
04-06-2008, 03:43 PM
No, I mean that she was holding both a Torch and Pistol in the same hand. It was an interesting bug.

Oh yeah, kinda looked that way in the pic I linked too, didnt it?

VeriusCarth
04-06-2008, 06:19 PM
Oh yeah, kinda looked that way in the pic I linked too, didnt it?

Yep. (10 characters. D: )

Screwhealz
04-06-2008, 07:05 PM
In the picture it actually looks as if he is holding the pistol upside down, possibly on purpose to be able to wield the torch as well. It's possible im just an idiot, but its also possible that it is a special ability for the Witchhunter or something of that sort.

Im really just brainstorming here to keep the thread alive until Mythic decides to give us something on the Archmage as far a videos and other information goes.

Screwhealz
04-16-2008, 08:57 AM
Bring
Up
My
Post

Verene
04-16-2008, 05:30 PM
(They don't like bumps around these parts)

Amadethian
04-17-2008, 01:51 AM
Yeah I think those two fire aoe explosions were from the archmages. I seriously just love the high elf classes.

Actuuually- I think the person responsible for that impressive scatter aoe was a Bright Wizard standing just out of view. =X Although, I think I saw the Arch Mage hit that witch elf with a small fire DD spell right after healing.

Verene
04-20-2008, 07:16 AM
The first videos of gameplay from NY Comic Con have started showing up on youtube, low quality over the shoulder footage but the RvR looks pretty fast paced. The Destruction players in this video seem slightly more organized than the Order players which isn't saying much since the Chosen player shown doesn't seem to be coordinating with anyone, just chasing down Order repeatedly.

Chosen Vid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlEjUxRdbzo
An Archmage makes a brief appearance at about 1:30 completely surrounded by Destruction players so we don't get to see much other than their death.

Zealot Vid, same low quality.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-ozaoklgcE
Archmage at 0:30, white flash from their staff. They're in the background for a while after than presumably healing, there's not a lot to see and the quality is too low to see much.

Verene
04-24-2008, 02:38 PM
Some nice Archmage footage in these vids featured on the alliance main page. Decent quality, no sound except the third link.

3rd vid near the end it shows are archmage holding their own against a sorceress (for a while), might have even won too if it weren't for the disciple in the vid...
http://war.mondespersistants.com/?news=926

First vid on this page has the best footage of all, showing some healing/nuking/tapping before a sorceress (naturally) puts an end to it.
http://war.mondespersistants.com/?news=929

Chosen:
http://war.mondespersistants.com/?news=923

Kaeldor
04-25-2008, 07:57 AM
Some nice Archmage footage in these vids featured on the alliance main page. Decent quality, no sound except the third link.

3rd vid near the end it shows are archmage holding their own against a sorceress (for a while), might have even won too if it weren't for the disciple in the vid...
http://war.mondespersistants.com/?news=926

First vid on this page has the best footage of all, showing some healing/nuking/tapping before a sorceress (naturally) puts an end to it.
http://war.mondespersistants.com/?news=929

Chosen:
http://war.mondespersistants.com/?news=923

Thanks for the vids! I hope we get more coverage from a AM point of view.

Orion
04-26-2008, 02:16 AM
Did I read somewhere AM's will be covered in detail in the next newsletter? Can anyone confirm this for me pls?

Kaeldor
04-26-2008, 05:13 AM
Did I read somewhere AM's will be covered in detail in the next newsletter? Can anyone confirm this for me pls?

Yup, the mastery trees are revealed in the next newsletter.

Orion
04-26-2008, 05:27 PM
Excellent...!

I'm sure most people know what to expect though.

Kaeldor
04-26-2008, 05:30 PM
Excellent...!

I'm sure most people know what to expect though.

Yeah, probalby a lot of people already have seen the masteries. But it'll be nice to see it officially, and maybe we get a nice screeny or two.

Darrett
05-02-2008, 01:23 PM
Most of the masteries for classes are already released, thanks to convention play, of course.

Hopefully the official release will have a bit more information on exactly what sort of skills we can look forward to.

I'd prefer if they would start letting us hear about class mechanics though, since that's the big thing that each class needs to know about.

Kaeldor
05-02-2008, 06:29 PM
Most of the masteries for classes are already released, thanks to convention play, of course.

Hopefully the official release will have a bit more information on exactly what sort of skills we can look forward to.

I'd prefer if they would start letting us hear about class mechanics though, since that's the big thing that each class needs to know about.

Maybe they are still not 100% happy with how the mechanics work for some classes. I heard that that is the case with the AM (no idea though if that's true).

Orion
05-02-2008, 11:18 PM
Well, I hope we find out soon. I was of the impression the AM masteries would be revealed in the April newsletter, but alas I was mistaken.

Kaeldor
05-03-2008, 01:05 AM
Well, I hope we find out soon. I was of the impression the AM masteries would be revealed in the April newsletter, but alas I was mistaken.

Sorry yeah that is what I heard too. Hopefully next one.

Exacerberus
05-13-2008, 06:35 AM
Yup, the mastery trees are revealed in the next newsletter.Me too, I'm impatiently waiting for them. This class could be awesome... :cool:

Kaeldor
05-13-2008, 07:39 PM
Me too, I'm impatiently waiting for them. This class could be awesome... :cool:

Hopefully, but they lied to us, and didn't include it in the newsletter, hopefully it's in the May one though *grumble*

checkthis5000
05-13-2008, 08:00 PM
Hopefully, but they lied to us, and didn't include it in the newsletter, hopefully it's in the May one though *grumble*

Eh? who lied about what? Where did it say in the April newsletter that the masteries for the Archmage would be in this newsletter. lol

I think you're talking about the white lion, but they didn't lie about that either. Someone *cough* misanthrope *cough* said that someone at a con said they were in, and they weren't. There was nothing in the previous newsletter about the last class being revealed. The april newsletter however clearly said that the last class will be revealed in the may newsletter.

So I'm not sure what "lying" you're referring to, since it hasn't happened.

Kaeldor
05-13-2008, 08:29 PM
Eh? who lied about what? Where did it say in the April newsletter that the masteries for the Archmage would be in this newsletter. lol

I think you're talking about the white lion, but they didn't lie about that either. Someone *cough* misanthrope *cough* said that someone at a con said they were in, and they weren't. There was nothing in the previous newsletter about the last class being revealed. The april newsletter however clearly said that the last class will be revealed in the may newsletter.

So I'm not sure what "lying" you're referring to, since it hasn't happened.

First the word lying was not meant 100% earnest. Secondly, everyone who really wants to know the masteries can find them easely, so even if they have "lied" it wouldn't matter much. Also revealing the "trees" or not a big deal as such anyway.

But what I was referning to is this:

Upcoming Newsletters will feature in-depth details of career masteries for the following Careers and others, but for now, here’s a sneak-peek of some of the careers that players were able to test during this focus round.

High Elf Careers

Archmage
The High Elves are known far and wide to be amongst the most powerful mages ..

This quote is taken from the herald here: http://herald.warhammeronline.com/warherald/NewsArticle.war?id=123

That was the "lie" I was refering to. But actually I misread "newsletterS" for "newsletter" when I first read the acrticle. Just found out now, as I re-read it.

I should have added a smile to my statement above, but I really didn't think someone would take it earnestly. But of course, I was wrong anyway.

Exacerberus
05-14-2008, 07:22 AM
checkthis5000: Eh? who lied about what? Where did it say in the April newsletter that the masteries for the Archmage would be in this newsletter. lol [...]
So I'm not sure what "lying" you're referring to, since it hasn't happened.That was the "lie" I was refering to. But actually I misread "newsletterS" for "newsletter" when I first read the acrticle. Just found out now, as I re-read it.

I should have added a smile to my statement above, but I really didn't think someone would take it earnestly. But of course, I was wrong anyway.Lol. I can put a smile for you then: :mrgreen: Come on guys, it isn't really something to argue about. We shall wait (impatiently :mad:) and see...

Kaeldor
05-14-2008, 04:40 PM
Lol. I can put a smile for you then: :mrgreen: Come on guys, it isn't really something to argue about. We shall wait (impatiently :mad:) and see...

Help from a Soceress :shock:... Don't tell my friends at the Tower of Hoeth about that >>

gecko155
05-14-2008, 05:22 PM
*arrow flies from general direction of Nagarythe at Kaeldor* ;D

Kaeldor
05-15-2008, 05:07 AM
*arrow flies from general direction of Nagarythe at Kaeldor* ;D

Damn, that plan worked out for her, shrewed , those DE.:D

Exacerberus
05-17-2008, 03:32 AM
Damn, that plan worked out for her, shrewed , those DE.:DLol :mrgreen: Anyway I think I'll have to split my loyalty in an equal number of PGs of both factions (though in different servers, it seems). Archmage will be my first Order guy :cool:

Kaeldor
05-19-2008, 04:52 AM
... Archmage will be my first Order guy :cool:

And my first destruction alt will be a Socerer ;).

Verene
05-19-2008, 05:58 AM
You would turn away from the High Elves to join with those who follow Malekith's insane desires?

Meh, whatever floats your boat.

Kaeldor
05-20-2008, 05:15 AM
You would turn away from the High Elves to join with those who follow Malekith's insane desires?

Meh, whatever floats your boat.

Shhh, but yes, as an alt. Just going bamm bamm sounds like a lot of fun. And I played a fire mage in WoW for around three years, so no more fire atm. But, still main will be a AM, and the first alt a shadow warrior.

A Socerer also sounds like a lot of fun though : ).