Black Guard overplayed?

[Vengence]

As soon as i saw a pic of a black guard i knew i wanted to play as one, but the only thing is that alot of other people are thinking the same thing so i'm just looking for some input and advice to see if other people think this class will be overplayed...

[Selendor]

It's possible. I think Witch Elves, Shadow Warriors, Chosen, Witch Hunters, Warrior Priests, etc., will balance it out.

[Gemini]

Just about every class has had at least one thread on these forums about how they will be overplayed, and who knows about all the other fansites. It also helps that each class has it's own unique flavor, but still fills a paticular roll(supprt, tank, melee dps, or ranged dps). There really is just about something for everyone.

[Kaid]

What kind of slander is this?!?! You can never have too many Dark Elves :D

[Barundin162]

Its not our fault they look so cool....but yea I wouldnt say anyone is gonna be really overplayed, though I do think KotBS will be underplayed at the time.

But yea we will have to see how the cin depth class description goes next newsletter to see how intrest goes

[Duty]

My prediction is those that play destruction are going to like the dark/evil looking side of things or be emo kids.

Those types of people that want to play tanks will probably look more toward the Chosen first. I predict they'll have a bigger following.

Then again, BGs are elves...

[Ravanos]

honestly i don't think so, I think the Chosen will be the popular tank because of look. Though Black Guard might come in second.

I'm picking it simply because it wields just NASTY looking Halberds ... it must be the polearmsman in me trying to get out again.

[Eriom]

I have always like Dark Elfs (before they even announced WAR), i mean, there just so evil. Also like the person above me, im a huge halberd/pole arm/pike/scythe fan and the fact that Black Guards specialty is halberd just makes me want to play one even more.

[Relentless]

honestly i don't think so, I think the Chosen will be the popular tank because of look. Though Black Guard might come in second.

I'm picking it simply because it wields just NASTY looking Halberds ... it must be the polearmsman in me trying to get out again.

I'd like to second this. Besides, there's still the DE ranged class yet to be revealed.

I'd say shadow warriors pretty much guaranteed a population balance between the elves. Between swordmasters and shadow warriors HE's are going to be burgeoning with Legolas and anime fans.

[Dracallo]

Na man everyone is over hyped on the WE and chosen.

[Nomyzs]

As it seems people are overhyped about melee classes in both sides of conflict.
There will be tons of swordmasters, witch elves, witch hunters, shadow warriors (especially many people will look at them like wow hunters), chosen, black orcs and black guards, there will be nice amount of knights of sun and marauders.

Black guards cool? Yeah they are for heavy metal fans, so there will be tons of them, but same goes for chosen, black orcs. Get used to it. There are many cool classes in them game with strong presence. IF you want to play low populated class pick up runepriest, zealot.

[Barundin162]

I dont think Runepriests will be under populated. They will probably be alot more RP than KotBS. But Yes i think zaelots will be underpoped as well.

And Heck Yes to the Black Guard is for Metal Fans...Dethklok Rules!

[Foofmonger]

Black Guard will probably be one of the most populated tank classes. I think Chosen/Swordmasters might have higher populations though.

[ShiroRX]

Black Guard will probably be one of the most populated tank classes. I think Chosen/Swordmasters might have higher populations though.

I wouldn't count Black Orc out either, lot of former WoW players that will find solace in a mean looking Orc with a lot of armor.

[Relentless]

Black Guard will probably be one of the most populated tank classes. I think Chosen/Swordmasters might have higher populations though.

Ah the joy of the elf effect. They might as well start making lore about how prolific elf breeding is in MMO lore, they seem to be half rabbit.

[Chielz0r]

It's hard to say with 2 classes yet to be announced, as it stands I'll go Black Guard (not a hard choice since it's the only male DE choice at the moment)

But yea.. Black Guard will probably be the most played Tank class in the game and Dark Elves overall the most played race.

[Malerius]

i think , maybe the chosen will get the first place in the most overplayed class(tanks) they fit perfeclty in the big bad guy that every small kids is waiting for.the black guard in the other hand , is smaller but not less efective;).talking about DE i think that the witch will get the prize ¿why? because everyone want to play with the hot chic at least as an alt.

[Ranti]

I really don't think any class will be overplayed, honestly, just because of the archtype system and the sheer number of players

Unlike in other games, using wow as an example here, rogues where overplayed, but they where overplayed, more than they normally would be, because they where both Night elfs, human, undead, orc, troll, dwarf, gnome (7/8). Furthermore, really no other class could do their job

but if only the Horde rogue was a different class totally than the alliance rogue this would of (nominally) cut the population in half, making it a much more "balanced" population. Do

Add to this the sheer number of classes (24) and even though a class may be overpopulated (greater than 4% of the total pop) it still will be a small over all population segment

Even if they are double what they should be (8%) that still means only 8 out of 100 people you see will be a blackguard, and that is fairly sparce imho. So population balances for a specific class will be 1) hard to achieve and will be 2) hard to notice

[Foofmonger]

Ah the joy of the elf effect. They might as well start making lore about how prolific elf breeding is in MMO lore, they seem to be half rabbit.

I don't think it has anything to do with the BG being an elf, and more to do with the BG being badass looking.

Did I mention the BG is badass?

[Thrakkesh]

If it's any consolation, Tanks are typically the least chosen, even from a PVP perspective. As I still feel their value in RvR may seem difficult (they'll likely be one of those chances that most people can't grasp to use effectively) the Black Guard may be one of the less picked up.

There might be some initial interest as people try out their take out in.. but... I just can't see it. People tend to favor DPS classes. The idea of supporting others is rough, and Tanks are effectively support classes in their own right.

[Relentless]

If it's any consolation, Tanks are typically the least chosen, even from a PVP perspective. As I still feel their value in RvR may seem difficult (they'll likely be one of those chances that most people can't grasp to use effectively) the Black Guard may be one of the less picked up.

There might be some initial interest as people try out their take out in.. but... I just can't see it. People tend to favor DPS classes. The idea of supporting others is rough, and Tanks are effectively support classes in their own right.

This is very true. I suspect at launch there's going to be a significant number of players who initially choose a tanking class only to find out the classes aren't quite the hard-hitting supermen they initially thought the class was going to be, and can't quite grasp why they're not as effective as they'd like be when they're focused on killing a singular target instead of supporting their group.

[Dracallo]

If theyre a "support" class then whos the ones doing all the dmg???

[Selendor]

Dracallo: The DPS classes will be doing that.


And I don't know where you guys are getting your stats, but Warriors were the most played class in WoW. Fighter types are always very highly populated.

[Eltair Shadowblade]

If theyre a "support" class then whos the ones doing all the dmg???
Uhm.....maybe the (ranged/melee) dps:p

Btw selendor, that was probably because warriors were immensive powerhouses.
They had high hp, high armor and pvp-geared warriors had mortal strike hitting for almost 1500.
non-crit.

They were beasts, and if they had a support-bot..you could just as well go get a drink.

[Grimald]

Just wait until the white lions come out with their nice clean white lion pets, i'm sure you won't be thinking that black guard will be overplayed then.

[Dracallo]

Im going to kil simba!

Ok so Any thoughts on another MMO I could play to get the feel of a tank??

[Thrakkesh]

Dracallo: The DPS classes will be doing that.


And I don't know where you guys are getting your stats, but Warriors were the most played class in WoW. Fighter types are always very highly populated.

Fighter population waxed and waned fiercely. In the initial launch they were terribly underplayed (also sucked) and it took some time for them to address rage issues. You really didn't see them explode until around when AR came out, where the scaling abilties of Warriors were laid open for all to see (you had Warriors hitting harder then Rogues). The population increased over time then. The fact that the 'tank' class also happens to be one of the highest burst damage classes in game has something to do with it.

If classes are inequal, you can bet the most powerful one will be the most populace. Fighter mentality may play into it, but I think the case with WoW was considerably different.

[Thrakkesh]

Im going to kil simba!

Ok so Any thoughts on another MMO I could play to get the feel of a tank??

Don't completely count out the WAR tanks just yet.

So much of what we know is nebulous and uncertain. We know that Mythic intends every class to have solo ability (because likely no MMO will ever make that mistake again). We also know that they intend to make Tank classes viable. If nothing else, I envision the difference (this is kind of a stretch) between DPS and tank to be just as much the difference between aircraft and tanks (partiuclarly WWII) Aircraft have more mobility, and often hit harder and faster, but are relatively unarmored (compared to a tank, anyway). Tanks are capable of dealing damage--they may even deal a signficent 'burst' without being able to sustain for too long, but are harder to kill. In a group setting, the Tank will be the one that leads a party into the fray and ends up the backbone--people might want to kill it, but it's the hardest one to do so. Meanwhile the DPS scuttles around and tries not to get FF'd. (Another analogy--Team Fortress 2 tatica often involves a Heavy + Medic as a spearhead, with other classes rushing in to cause mayhem. You can't ignore the Heavy because he pumps out damage, but meanwhile the other classes have the chance to do their nasty things.)

[Dracallo]

Don't completely count out the WAR tanks just yet.

So much of what we know is nebulous and uncertain. We know that Mythic intends every class to have solo ability (because likely no MMO will ever make that mistake again). We also know that they intend to make Tank classes viable. If nothing else, I envision the difference (this is kind of a stretch) between DPS and tank to be just as much the difference between aircraft and tanks (partiuclarly WWII) Aircraft have more mobility, and often hit harder and faster, but are relatively unarmored (compared to a tank, anyway). Tanks are capable of dealing damage--they may even deal a signficent 'burst' without being able to sustain for too long, but are harder to kill. In a group setting, the Tank will be the one that leads a party into the fray and ends up the backbone--people might want to kill it, but it's the hardest one to do so. Meanwhile the DPS scuttles around and tries not to get FF'd. (Another analogy--Team Fortress 2 tatica often involves a Heavy + Medic as a spearhead, with other classes rushing in to cause mayhem. You can't ignore the Heavy because he pumps out damage, but meanwhile the other classes have the chance to do their nasty things.)

I was looking for another MMO like WOW or DAOC to check out what a tank usually is like. I am not going to another game b/c tanks "might" suck. Im 100% about WAR either if I am a BG or a Squig hearder or a DE Sorc. Im a bit of a glory hound so I dont want to get utterly destroyed while the DPS boys get tons of kills and reap the glory.

[Thrakkesh]

I was looking for another MMO like WOW or DAOC to check out what a tank usually is like. I am not going to another game b/c tanks "might" suck. Im 100% about WAR either if I am a BG or a Squig hearder or a DE Sorc. Im a bit of a glory hound so I dont want to get utterly destroyed while the DPS boys get tons of kills and reap the glory.

The difference between Tanks and DPS in WAR is a little similar to 'positional DPS/light tanks' and 'Heavy Tanks'. I'm not even sure how to take WoW, as depending spec they're either stupidly powerful PVPers (better then most pure classes) or complete jokes.

[Aysor]

I was looking for another MMO like WOW or DAOC to check out what a tank usually is like. I am not going to another game b/c tanks "might" suck. Im 100% about WAR either if I am a BG or a Squig hearder or a DE Sorc. Im a bit of a glory hound so I dont want to get utterly destroyed while the DPS boys get tons of kills and reap the glory.

Forget WoW:mad: In DAOC tank classes were the bomb, if I was planning on playing a melee DPS I would be concerned although with DE Witch Elves will be underplayed anyway so it should work out.

[Zoatibix]

Are Elves as popular in in other MMOs?

WoW is possibly a bad example but there are tons of elves on both sides. Looking at the sites for other MMOs I've noticed all many of elves in multiple flavours.

I wouldn't be surprised if Druchii and our hated kin are the most popular races once this game becomes known to the unwashed masses.

I've loved the cool, evil, sexy brand of elf that was Dark Elves because they appeal to sophisticated teenager that I was then (cough). I still love exactly the same thing about them over twenty years on. I think kids love the good looks of elves, the magic, the not-quite human but still kinda relatable to gig. Adults do, too. :D

I still don't fathom why playing the 'bland' good guys is quite so facinating to the youngsters these days. Everybody loved being evil in my day but we had more restrictions growing up...

To the 'young me' BG would appeal as

a) Elves

b) Evil

c) Clad in cool looking armour

Chosen might look bigger but...their look it is a little too generic bad guy in plate for my tastes. BG have more ornate, different from the norm armour. Hmm...maybe that could work against them but I think BG is going to be the most played Destruction Tank.

[Xurré]

with DE Witch Elves will be underplayed anyway so it should work out.
Maybe that was a typo on your end... but how on earth do you think Witch Elves will be underplayed? :shock:


I wouldn't be surprised if Druchii and our hated kin are the most popular races once this game becomes known to the unwashed masses.
Well, not the asur; nobody likes being killed over and over again. Which is a shame, because we do love killing them again and again. ;)


- Xurré

[Zoatibix]

Sadly a lot of fools will be attracted to the Persil White Elves.

Although as you point out this does give us a chance to:

a) Kill things a lot.

b) See just how good Persil (other brands of washing powder are available) is at removing battle field stains. Although they probably use magic to...ugh...clean the blood of their armour...although why anybody would want to do that, I simply don't know...

I will have a BG alt though.

[Lint]

Legolas ruined it for us all, didn't he?

[Gemini]

Legolas ruined it for us all, didn't he?

Shadow Warriors are how Legolas shoulda been. Stupid girly-elf-things...

And on a side note, Witch Hunters are how Van Hellsing shoulda been... I could probably find more...

[Lint]

Shadow Warriors are how Legolas shoulda been. Stupid girly-elf-things...

And on a side note, Witch Hunters are how Van Hellsing shoulda been... I could probably find more...

Honestly, when they released the witch hunter concept art. Van Hellsing is the first thing that came to mind.

[Dracallo]

Shadow Warriors are how Legolas shoulda been. Stupid girly-elf-things......

Or emo. Which legolas always was...well... in my own eyes.

[Zunjin]

Or emo. Which legolas always was...well... in my own eyes.

or simply a elf characther in Tolkien's world. There aint a single thing I regret or dismiss in those books or films.

[Revan]

Van Helsing came to mind too.

Anyways as they have stated. Black Guards will be big. But Chosen will be bigger.

[Selendor]

Van Helsing came to mind too.

Anyways as they have stated. Black Guards will be big. But Chosen will be bigger.

I think it'll depend on the server...I think a lot of people will be turned off by the defensive, twisting style of the Chosen.

[Kaid]

Van Helsing came to mind too.

Anyways as they have stated. Black Guards will be big. But Chosen will be bigger.
If only there was a Khorne chosen... stupid Zeentch army. :(

[Serek]

At least to some degree classes that start out as overplayed will eventually balance out (that is assuming the classes are reasonably balanced over all in power).

[shoi]

At least to some degree classes that start out as overplayed will eventually balance out (that is assuming the classes are reasonably balanced over all in power).

i think it'll be like this with many of the tanks, especially the BG

[Lord Tareq]

To be honest, I doubt black guard (or any tank class for that matter) will be overplayed. Remember that the people on this fansite are like 0.1% of the total population going to play WAR. And although we all know/expect tanks will be good in pvp, the tank class will be (in the minds of the general public) stuck with the "can't pvp" stigma thanks to WoW. Since WAR will focus on PVP I think this will deter alot of people from playing a Tank.

[Yavvy]

To be honest, I doubt black guard (or any tank class for that matter) will be overplayed. Remember that the people on this fansite are like 0.1% of the total population going to play WAR. And although we all know/expect tanks will be good in pvp, the tank class will be (in the minds of the general public) stuck with the "can't pvp" stigma thanks to WoW. Since WAR will focus on PVP I think this will deter alot of people from playing a Tank.Untill they see for themselves what they can do in PvP.

[Hadren]

What i remember from WoW and Vanguard. At the beginning there was tons of tanks everywhere but not many healers..Eventually most of those tanks gave up like many people said . So tanks become almost as rare as healers in late areas(well at least good ones). I do believe that there will be many tanks for awhile but may decline some, but not near as drastic as vanguard's tank population. BG look very nice and we will see evidence of that eventually in videos etc.. They will have a nice sized population of fans of the class.

[Rasek]

the tank class will be (in the minds of the general public) stuck with the "can't pvp" stigma thanks to WoW. Since WAR will focus on PVP I think this will deter alot of people from playing a Tank.

After WoW they dont call it Tank, they call it warrior, and his job is to run around in plate with a big 2hander pulling big numbers on people and beeing essential on a pvp group as an executioner, whos suposed to bring hell to his enemies in form of an oversized weapon.

Thats what 90% of warhammer players have/will have on their mind by chosing a "tank" career to play, and they will be disapointed ( hopefully, because it would be way imba to do that AND be viable tank in pvp), and roll something else.

[Axxar]

Things going for the black guard as far as popularity:
- It's an elf.
- It looks hot.

Things going against the black guard as far as popularity:
- It's evil.
- It's a tank.

I don't think it'll be particularly overplayed.

[Hadren]

Evil adds to the fact ,not subtract it away. Some reason most people prefer evil because they are not allowed to be evil in real life(well most people). I prefer being on the "good" side, because I'm pretty evil in real life hehe.

[Axxar]

It seems the vast majority prefer to play the good guys, just look at previous MMOs. Therefore it makes sense that there's fewer blackguards as the "evil side" player base is likely to be smaller than the "good side" player base.

[Lord Tareq]

After WoW they dont call it Tank, they call it warrior, and his job is to run around in plate with a big 2hander pulling big numbers on people and beeing essential on a pvp group as an executioner, whos suposed to bring hell to his enemies in form of an oversized weapon.

Thats what 90% of warhammer players have/will have on their mind by chosing a "tank" career to play, and they will be disapointed ( hopefully, because it would be way imba to do that AND be viable tank in pvp), and roll something else.


In WoW protection specced warriors are called tanks. Protection specced tanks absolutely sucked in PvP.
In WAR there is an entire archtype named Tank. Will this be associated by most people with powerful PvP potential? I doubt it.
In WAR you will be able to play tanks who are extremely viable in PvP. They can tank players, and still do very reasonable damage.

[Hadren]

I did have leader in my clan with Grand Marshal gear and did more damage than me in raids(i was a 60 rogue with bloodfang) but that was before expansion. Yeah Tanks were definately in WoW ..people just seem to forget. I think tanks will be really nice in this game with the collision(think i spelled that right) by itself.

Here is what i think the statistics will be in first month of game release.

Tanks: 20%

Ironbreaker- 3%
Chosen- 6%
Blackguard- 3%
Knight of the Blazing Sun- 2%
Black Orc- 4%
Sword Master- 2%Melee Dps: 30%

Orc Choppa 5%
Witch-hunter 7%
Witch-Elf 5%
White Lion 3%
Hammerer 4%
Marauder 6%Ranged Dps:(assuming Sorc will be this) 35%

Sorcerer 5%
Magus 4%
Goblin Squig herder 7%
Engineer 9 %
Bright Wizard 3%
Shadow Warrior 7%Support: (still waiting to find out dark elf) 15%

Arch Mage 3%
Zealot 1%
Shaman 3%
????dark elf 3%
Rune priest 1%
warrior priest 4%Yeah this would get tons of agrument etc..but im bored so thats what i think ....just my dribble of beer.

[Foofmonger]

Here is what i think the statistics will be in first month of game release.

Tanks: 20%

Ironbreaker- 3%
Chosen- 6%
Blackguard- 3%
Knight of the Blazing Sun- 2%
Black Orc- 4%
Sword Master- 2%Melee Dps: 30%

Orc Choppa 5%
Witch-hunter 7%
Witch-Elf 5%
White Lion 3%
Hammerer 4%
Marauder 6%Ranged Dps:(assuming Sorc will be this) 35%

Sorcerer 5%
Magus 4%
Goblin Squig herder 7%
Engineer 9 %
Bright Wizard 3%
Shadow Warrior 7%Support: (still waiting to find out dark elf) 15%

Arch Mage 3%
Zealot 1%
Shaman 3%
????dark elf 3%
Rune priest 1%
warrior priest 4%Yeah this would get tons of agrument etc..but im bored so thats what i think ....just my dribble of beer.

They seem pretty reasonable to me actually, even if it is all conjecture.

As far as your numbers go: I think SM/BG for tanks will be a little bit more popular then that.

Meele DPS: I think White Lion will be higher, Marauder/WE/Hammerer lower.

Ranged DPS:Definitly more bright wizards, magus, and sorcerer, and less engineer.

Support: Zealot will definitly be a little higher.

Other then that, I think it was pretty good.

[Horiable]

I did have leader in my clan with Grand Marshal gear and did more damage than me in raids(i was a 60 rogue with bloodfang) but that was before expansion. Yeah Tanks were definately in WoW ..people just seem to forget. I think tanks will be really nice in this game with the collision(think i spelled that right) by itself.

Here is what i think the statistics will be in first month of game release.

Tanks: 20%
Ironbreaker- 3%
Chosen- 6%
Blackguard- 3%
Knight of the Blazing Sun- 2%
Black Orc- 4%
Sword Master- 2%Melee Dps: 30%
Orc Choppa 5%
Witch-hunter 7%
Witch-Elf 5%
White Lion 3%
Hammerer 4%
Marauder 6%Ranged Dps:(assuming Sorc will be this) 35%
Sorcerer 5%
Magus 4%
Goblin Squig herder 7%
Engineer 9 %
Bright Wizard 3%
Shadow Warrior 7%Support: (still waiting to find out dark elf) 15%
Arch Mage 3%
Zealot 1%
Shaman 3%
????dark elf 3%
Rune priest 1%
warrior priest 4%Yeah this would get tons of agrument etc..but im bored so thats what i think ....just my dribble of beer.

i'm not sure if many people understand what twisting is, but for those who do it might deter them from playing as a Chosen. But 2% for sword master?? i think that'd be higher compared to ironbreakers seeing as how paul sold it as a "proto-jedi" which is bound to appeal to a lot of youngens

i'm still extremely curious whether the BG is going to start off with polearms or will they be sword and board first then add points into class masteries that utilize polearms

[Jinsei]

i'm still extremely curious whether the BG is going to start off with polearms or will they be sword and board first then add points into class masteries that utilize polearms
I'd think that the halberd would be the weapon of choice as that was one of the selling points of the black guard when it was unveiled at Leipzig and the concept art thus far has a massive polearm in his hand.

[Dyst]

I'd think that the halberd would be the weapon of choice as that was one of the selling points of the black guard when it was unveiled at Leipzig and the concept art thus far has a massive polearm in his hand.

Yeah. There are differences within the different "tank" classes too. BG is more of a damage dealer, and will probably start off with a halberd as that is it's most iconic weapon.

[Rasek]

In WoW protection specced warriors are called tanks. Protection specced tanks absolutely sucked in PvP.
In WAR there is an entire archtype named Tank. Will this be associated by most people with powerful PvP potential? I doubt it.
In WAR you will be able to play tanks who are extremely viable in PvP. They can tank players, and still do very reasonable damage.

i think you completely missed my point

[Grimald]

Can't wait to see Black Guards against a Sword Master it'll just look cool.

Besides i think the more elite side will be disorder side, while order side will be full of (input general word for what happened in wow to the maturity of their players) i'm definately thinking of switching to Black Guard especially since my favourite novels is malus darkblade.

[Nerak]

Can't wait to see Black Guards against a Sword Master it'll just look cool.

Besides i think the more elite side will be disorder side, while order side will be full of (input general word for what happened in wow to the maturity of their players) i'm definately thinking of switching to Black Guard especially since my favourite novels is malus darkblade.

You might be right, but I do not think it will be so pronounced.

I think a lot of the more immature players will surround the Dark Elves and High Elves, and the Empire. Yes, Order will have more immature players I am sure, but the Dwarfen race will be looked upon as the "elite players" of the Order sides as most of the people who will flock to that race are playing it because they love Dwarfs in the tabletop.

[Kellaris]

I did have leader in my clan with Grand Marshal gear and did more damage than me in raids(i was a 60 rogue with bloodfang) but that was before expansion. Yeah Tanks were definately in WoW ..people just seem to forget. I think tanks will be really nice in this game with the collision(think i spelled that right) by itself.

Here is what i think the statistics will be in first month of game release.

Tanks: 20%
Ironbreaker- 3%
Chosen- 6%
Blackguard- 3%
Knight of the Blazing Sun- 2%
Black Orc- 4%
Sword Master- 2%Melee Dps: 30%
Orc Choppa 5%
Witch-hunter 7%
Witch-Elf 5%
White Lion 3%
Hammerer 4%
Marauder 6%Ranged Dps:(assuming Sorc will be this) 35%
Sorcerer 5%
Magus 4%
Goblin Squig herder 7%
Engineer 9 %
Bright Wizard 3%
Shadow Warrior 7%Support: (still waiting to find out dark elf) 15%
Arch Mage 3%
Zealot 1%
Shaman 3%
????dark elf 3%
Rune priest 1%
warrior priest 4%Yeah this would get tons of agrument etc..but im bored so thats what i think ....just my dribble of beer.

I aggree with that, with exception of Marauder (lower becouse evil and ugly) and WE (higher, becouse she is almost naked she-elf)

[Vankador]

If I had to guess on the initially overplayed class, the BG will be among the top.

This is because people generally choose the coolest looking class at first because they don't know much about class mechanics and playstyle until they've gotten at least some feel and seen some people in action.

Most people don't stick with their first character choices. I know I never had...

Starting from EQ, my first character was a Barbarian Shaman, didn't make it past 50 before rerolling, then came FFXI's ninja, didn't make it past 40, then another Shaman in WoW, managed to actually hit 60 on it before quitting a few days later and rerolling a Warrior. In EQ2 I started with a Brig, got him to 40 before rerolling Bruiser.

This may or may not happen in WAR, I currently do plan on starting with a BG. I wanted to be a Marauder initially until I realized that I never got a pure melee DPS class to high end, they were always tank/DPS classes. In EQ my main was a Monk/SK, in WoW my main was a Warrior, in EQ2 I'm currently playinh a Bruiser.

I just hope BGs can do decent DPS, from the looks of it they'll be kinda like an arms Warrior from WoW, if that's the case then I'm pretty sure I'll stick with it. (Got 2 Warriors to 60 and 1 to 70 in WoW).