Impressions on HE mount

[BIGRIG97]

What do you guys think about the mount? Personally I'm not too crazy about it

[Foofmonger]

Looks pretty HEish to me, the top tier armor is pretty cool as well.

[senmance]

What do you guys think about the mount? Personally I'm not too crazy about it

Which Tier and why? Were you expecting something other than a horse?

I like it. It fits. It's fancy, it's grand, it's bright, it's High Elfish.

[BIGRIG97]

Ya, I know it looks elvish and all, but I would like it to look more "warlike" and less ... pretty ...maybe its those wings that sets me off. btw I'm reffering to http://warhammervault.ign.com/screenshots/?ss=952&view=ss&page=1&cat=4 (http://warhammervault.ign.com/screenshots/?ss=952&view=ss&page=1&cat=4)

[Ravenlaw]

I think it looks impressive. While it seems odd to have 3 races with horses, I can't really think of anything else for them. At least it's nothing stupid like armored tigers (ala He-Man) and purple ostriches.

[AlienOverlord]

It's High Elvish.

It's SUPPOSED to be irritating on a fundamental level because of its pristine, perfect prettiness :) (That applies to mounts too)

I think Mythic hit it on the head with this design. Even the horse has an arrogant, condescending look in its expression :)

[Krauser Hellbringer]

It's every bit as "Posh" as the High Elves themselves. Perfect match I'd say.

[Athenys]

It's much like a petite Akhal-Teke in build...come to think of it they should have gone with the full Teke look. The head is a too short/broad and the nose too dished to make it look like a proper HE horse IMO. This should give you an idea of what I am talking about:

http://www.maakcenter.org/PICS/moscow2003/07.jpg

Shaar-Shael's look is more in keeping with the artwork shown in the Army Book. Ellyrion consists of mainly plains with hard soil so it would make sense that HE horses would most closely resemble a RL breed that evolved in the same environment.

[mongoose]

What do you guys think about the mount? Personally I'm not too crazy about it

Mythic delivered exactly what I thought they would look like. It screams High Elf. Now if you were perhaps hoping for some black steed 10 hands high with 4 glowing eyes and sharp pointies stickin out everywhere I think you need to head over to the Chaos forums. :rolleyes:

This is what a High Elf mount should look like (and have pretty much ALWAYS looked like) so I really dont know what you were expecting or why you arent crazy about them.

[Hadren]

Yes very "posh".Everyone i believe, thinks this looks high elvish. lol

[thelastlogan]

it looks good but with the distinctive armor it has on, it might not match the armor your character has on

[Hnbmilk]

Im not too crazy about them either but they are undeniably High Elfish. You can't really change them. They are what they are.

[Vaeronthar]

it looks good but with the distinctive armor it has on, it might not match the armor your character has onPsh. I'll buy a new robe to match a horse that fine.

[ChosenOne]

Well I agree that it fits the High Elves. But does it really fit the Shadow warrior elves?

Thats the class I was aiming to play for a first alt and im not sure about the mounts in that regard. But hey, its just a mount its not a big thing to worry about for me.

[Athenys]

This is what a High Elf mount should look like (and have pretty much ALWAYS looked like) so I really dont know what you were expecting or why you arent crazy about them.

To people unfamiliar with various equine breeds a 'horse is a horse'. People who fancy horses know better, it's is about both form and function :p! Arabian horses (which is what that concept art horse somewhat resembles) don't fit, plain and simple. The environment where the breed arose and it's overall characteristics are at odds with the HE background. When I look at the Army Book artwork I see a horse built a lot more like a Thoroughbred or Akhal-Teke which, incidentally, makes the most sense.

[Hnbmilk]

@ the post above...

I disagree. I see thinner/faster horses to be more high elfish than any other type of horse.

[Athenys]

If anything the Akhal-Teke is, at least in conformation, the 'greyhound' of the horse world :confused:. It's built for speed plain and simple. Not only is it the oldest of all domesticated horse breeds, no other horse is as fine-boned and elegant yet endurant to a point that is seemingly impossible for so slight a frame! Arabians are totally different, they are compact (read SHORT) horses with wider hooves ideally suited for running over loose, sandy soil. I can almost picture a 6'5" HE mounting an Arabian horse only to have his heels drag unceremoniously on the ground :rolleyes:...

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b362/aimelek/tekevsarab.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBqIiKPLv1M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-I8cGPjE7c4

One problem Arabian breeders have been facing recently is a market trend that favors taller horses. What you end up with when you breed for excessive height in Arabians are 'peanut pushing' pleasure horses that couldn't move right if their lives depended on it! That certainly wouldn't fit the bill for HE either...

[Accipiter]

If anything the Akhal-Teke is, at least in conformation, the 'greyhound' of the horse world :confused:. It's built for speed plain and simple. Not only is it the oldest of all domesticated horse breeds, no other horse is as fine-boned and elegant yet endurant to a point that is seemingly impossible for so slight a frame! Arabians are totally different, they are compact (read SHORT) horses with wider hooves ideally suited for running over loose, sandy soil. I can almost picture a 6'5" HE mounting an Arabian horse only to have his heels drag unceremoniously on the ground :rolleyes:...

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b362/aimelek/tekevsarab.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBqIiKPLv1M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-I8cGPjE7c4

One problem Arabian breeders have been facing recently is a market trend that favors taller horses. What you end up with when you breed for excessive height in Arabians are 'peanut pushing' pleasure horses that couldn't move right if their lives depended on it! That certainly wouldn't fit the bill for HE either...

Yeah, the HE mount is definitely based on the Arabian. And Arabs are not tall horses. But this is a fantasy game...

What will be interesting is to see if the different kinds of horse mount (Empire, Chaos, HE) have different animations. Arabs don't move like other horses. Hopefully the HE mounts will move differently from Empire and Chaos horses.

[mongoose]

To people unfamiliar with various equine breeds a 'horse is a horse'. People who fancy horses know better, it's is about both form and function :p! Arabian horses (which is what that concept art horse somewhat resembles) don't fit, plain and simple. The environment where the breed arose and it's overall characteristics are at odds with the HE background. When I look at the Army Book artwork I see a horse built a lot more like a Thoroughbred or Akhal-Teke which, incidentally, makes the most sense.

Well since you posted this based off of my quote I think I should point out to you I was clearly referring to the barding and other doodads the horses have on. You can argue about what the horse underneath should or shouldnt look like but thats of little concern to me.

If the worst thing Mythic does is make the base horse off of a slightly different RL breed I say count your blessings and quietly move on (being thankful you didnt get a clown mobile the the Dwarves :?)

They are white, lithe (instead of bulky like the Empire horses), stylish and have an 'all business' look in their eyes just like their riders. I think thats about as close as Mythic needs needs to be for the HE mount.

[Evil_Sandwich]

If the horse was drinking tea, while commenting on the works of famous writers that I have never heard of, while at the same time scoffing at me. I would be happy with its posh level.

[thelastlogan]

the elves should ride freaking unicorns!

[mongoose]

the elves should ride freaking unicorns!

Errm nope, thats the domain of the Wood Elves. They get to choose between Stags, Unicorns, Elven Steeds and Forest dragons.

I think it would be really cool of the WEs got Great Stags as their mounts :cool:

[AlienOverlord]

Well I agree that it fits the High Elves. But does it really fit the Shadow warrior elves?

Thats the class I was aiming to play for a first alt and im not sure about the mounts in that regard. But hey, its just a mount its not a big thing to worry about for me.
We have heard that we'll be able to customize the look of our mounts as well as our characters. Perhaps there will be more 'Shadow Warrior'-y type of barding for that class.

I really hope they do this with mounts. The mount of a Knight/Swordmaster should look very different (heavy barding) than a horse used by a Archmage/Bright Wizard (flowy cloth, glowy things).

[Axxar]

The high elf mount looks amazing.

[Teraven]

I really like them, and think they look really good. As to the shadow warriors, I don't think they will look too out of place on the light version of the mounts. Not really that much showy armour on that version. The only thing which might be throwing people off is that all the shown horses are white, not exactly a shadow warrior colour. I geuss that is kind of the iconic "elven steed" look, but the GW showcase army has regularily had brown/gray ellyrian reaver mounts and black silver helm mounts, so hopefully we can get different colours.

[Xilbalba]

the elves should ride freaking unicorns!

Ironically enough Chaos rides Unicorns albiet evil ones. :D

[Ceandric]

I really like them, and think they look really good. As to the shadow warriors, I don't think they will look too out of place on the light version of the mounts. Not really that much showy armour on that version. The only thing which might be throwing people off is that all the shown horses are white, not exactly a shadow warrior colour. I geuss that is kind of the iconic "elven steed" look, but the GW showcase army has regularily had brown/gray ellyrian reaver mounts and black silver helm mounts, so hopefully we can get different colours.


Yep, the high elf horses tend to come in all colours. Riding a black one is considered bad luck tho, since the dark elves tend to single those riders out first in order to steal their mounts.

[thelastlogan]

Ironically enough Chaos rides Unicorns albiet evil ones. :D

Lol, i was really just joking though.

[Victarion]

I think the mount looks great! Goes along great with the HE look, couldn't have asked for anything better.

[ChosenOne]

We have heard that we'll be able to customize the look of our mounts as well as our characters. Perhaps there will be more 'Shadow Warrior'-y type of barding for that class.

I really hope they do this with mounts. The mount of a Knight/Swordmaster should look very different (heavy barding) than a horse used by a Archmage/Bright Wizard (flowy cloth, glowy things).


I hope so, because those HE mounts look bright and gleaming. Shadow warriors seem a bit more gloomy. I seriously hope to not have to have some gleaming white mount for my shadow warrior alt.

[RedSkullOrk]

Errm nope, thats the domain of the Wood Elves. They get to choose between Stags, Unicorns, Elven Steeds and Forest dragons.

I think it would be really cool of the WEs got Great Stags as their mounts :cool:

I don't know if HE mages can ride Unicorns in the new edition, haven't read through it yet, but back in the day (5th edition maybe) HE mages were able to ride Unicorns. You are correct that the WE's are able to choose one as a mount.

As an aside, one of the above posters stated a large size difference between Arabians and the Akhal-Teke. According to wikipedia (and im not saying this is 100% valid, just im not willing to invest more time into researching this) the apporpirate range for Akhal-Teke's is 14.3 - 16.3 hands tall. While for Arabians is 14.1 to 15.1 with some reaching 16 for the American market. That doesn't seem to be a huge difference to me, though admittedly the article says Arabians tend to be more compact. I personally do not really see that in the pictures provided, but I am admittedly not anywhere near a horse expert.

I think the HE mount looks good, I dont like the tail though. I know its a small point but, the upright position makes it looks like it is pooping. Hopefully that is just in the concept art and not the final model. I would hate to ride a around on a mount that looked like it was constantly constipated or pooping...

WAAAGGGHHH
RedSkullOrk

[mongoose]

I don't know if HE mages can ride Unicorns in the new edition, haven't read through it yet, but back in the day (5th edition maybe) HE mages were able to ride Unicorns. You are correct that the WE's are able to choose one as a mount.

Sorry no Unis, HEs in the 7th ed get Elven Steed, Griffons and 3 types of Dragons.


I think the HE mount looks good, I dont like the tail though. I know its a small point but, the upright position makes it looks like it is pooping. Hopefully that is just in the concept art and not the final model. I would hate to ride a around on a mount that looked like it was constantly constipated or pooping...

If you take a close look the tail has been put through basically a hole on the back top of the barding so at least in the concept art is a design choice. I cant imagine that being too comfortable for the horse though :rolleyes:

[Athenys]

While for Arabians is 14.1 to 15.1 with some reaching 16 for the American market

Traditional Arabians are shorter than traditional Akhal-Tekes. The Teke's leggier build also gives it the impression of added height and it's limbs are quite capable of bearing that extra weight. The 16 hand Arabians are the 'peanut pushers' I was referring to. Lord knows why they insist on breeding them like that despite a higher than average incidence of joint problems. The tail is carried quite high and that is an Arabian trait...which is also at odds with the elven steed depicted on the cover of the HE Army Book :rolleyes:. HE horses simply don't have the Arabian's dainty head with it's dished profile and large eyes. Instead their heads are noticeably long and tapering, with a straight profile. You would have to be blind not to notice that :p! In 'Guardians of the Forest' a Brettonian lord describes elven horses as excessively long limbed and narrow chested as well. Now which RL breed does that remind you of ;)?

[Trennet]

I don't like the HE mount. Having 3 out of 6 races with similar, boring horse-animations is too many. Of all the creatures available, I'm disappointed WAR didn't get more creative with the HE mount. I don't care if HE usually ride Horses -- let the NPCs ride them. I'd rather see HE players on unique, creative mounts (especially non-4-legged ones . . . which are dull as hell).

[Delolith]

Yep, the high elf horses tend to come in all colours. Riding a black one is considered bad luck tho, since the dark elves tend to single those riders out first in order to steal their mounts.

Omg I AM so buying a black High elven steed then! Whatever to attract some attention nontheless.....I am the tank after all ;) Seriously, the graphics team did an awsome job to depict a lithe agilie yet battle trained horse that does not run in the first sight of terror.

Delolith

[Ceandric]

I don't like the HE mount. Having 3 out of 6 races with similar, boring horse-animations is too many. Of all the creatures available, I'm disappointed WAR didn't get more creative with the HE mount. I don't care if HE usually ride Horses -- let the NPCs ride them. I'd rather see HE players on unique, creative mounts (especially non-4-legged ones . . . which are dull as hell).

Well, Mythic can't really change any of the IP without having GW's consent. And I daresay that they will never get consent for creating another type of steed for the high elves than what they use in the table top game. It's all about reaching for that same "look and feel"

[Deshiva]

I am good with the mount, though I think the upright tail looks a bit silly. But won't matter too much.

Ya, I know it looks elvish and all, but I would like it to look more "warlike" and less ... pretty ...maybe its those wings that sets me off. btw I'm reffering to


I don't see why they aren't looking very war ish. I mean come on even the horse neck is armored for crying out loud, doesn't look comfy for the horse I'd say. The wings are there because they maybe took insipration from the dragon prince regiments.

I think one high elf symbol like the one seen on that picture has wings in them as well, maybe related to the hawks they are usually allied with.

[Accipiter]

Traditional Arabians are shorter than traditional Akhal-Tekes. The Teke's leggier build also gives it the impression of added height and it's limbs are quite capable of bearing that extra weight. The 16 hand Arabians are the 'peanut pushers' I was referring to. Lord knows why they insist on breeding them like that despite a higher than average incidence of joint problems. The tail is carried quite high and that is an Arabian trait...which is also at odds with the elven steed depicted on the cover of the HE Army Book :rolleyes:. HE horses simply don't have the Arabian's dainty head with it's dished profile and large eyes. Instead their heads are noticeably long and tapering, with a straight profile. You would have to be blind not to notice that :p! In 'Guardians of the Forest' a Brettonian lord describes elven horses as excessively long limbed and narrow chested as well. Now which RL breed does that remind you of ;)?

I think the reason they based the HE mount on the looks of the Arabian is that they are so distinctly beautiful. They almost look like a different species. Given that three out of the six armies in WAR ride horses, the devs probably wanted to make the horse types as distinctive as possible, and nothing could be more distinctive than an Arabian.

I still want to see if the HE mount animations will move like an Arabian....

[Vaeronthar]

I have to say, Athenys is right.

But I like Arabian horses more, so I'm keeping my yap shut.

[Grungas Ironnose]

Errm nope, thats the domain of the Wood Elves. They get to choose between Stags, Unicorns, Elven Steeds and Forest dragons.

I think it would be really cool of the WEs got Great Stags as their mounts :cool:

Yer, I think if WE's are ever added they should have the stags, they're way cooler than their horses.

http://uk.games-workshop.com/woodelves/staglord/1/

Do all WE's ride these? No, but niether do all DE's ride cold ones. Bring on Prongs!

[Droogie]

the elves should ride freaking unicorns!


i agree.. I want to impale DEs with my unicorn's horn while i chop them to bits with my Greatsword.....


sigh maybe I am choosing the wrong race... I just want to kill people....


EDIT: And what about the White Lions?? Do they ride the horse while the lion trots alongside? Teehe, it would be hilarious if there was some side cart with the lion riding in it... oh.. *AHEM* WAR

[Athenys]

But I like Arabian horses more, so I'm keeping my yap shut.

If they make a southlands 'GW:Nightfall' type expansion for WAR someday 'Arabian' horses would definitely be a human mount, NOT an elven one ;). Even the unique shape of the nasal cavity in the Arabians is a very specific adaptation for their native environment, which is unlike anything found on Ulthuan. Take Shaar-Shael then add a longer Andalusian-like mane and tail and you will get a perfect HE horse lookalike. The gait of his breed is fluid enough and besides I never pictured elven horses as being the delicate dancing type anyway. One need only look at the size and weight of the barding some are being outfitted with to realize this!

[Jahearia]

Id have to say very impressed with the concept art.. cant wait to see what the actually look like in game though haha

[Athenys]

It seems like a good number of people here can't really visualize what a HE horse is supposed to look like according to the fluff. So I went ahead and put together my version of said horse in Photoshop:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b362/aimelek/HEHORSE.jpg

Yes the mane is braided, in the fluff it says that elves often do this to their horses so there :p. It's a cremello with white socks so that it matches the overall HE color scheme too. Let me know what you think...

[Deshiva]

While I find Atheny's version of H elf mount more fitting, the thing remains that the one that is now is not bad either. And since it's mostly thoose of you that are horse interested and well versed in their breeds that know it could be better, makes me doubt they will change it.

[Lucrece]

Ya, I know it looks elvish and all, but I would like it to look more "warlike" and less ... pretty ...maybe its those wings that sets me off. btw I'm reffering to http://warhammervault.ign.com/screenshots/?ss=952&view=ss&page=1&cat=4 (http://warhammervault.ign.com/screenshots/?ss=952&view=ss&page=1&cat=4)

I would like the back part's armor to be longer, to match the front part. The wings look O.K., although I think it's the angle they are put in and size that might be turning you off. It's hard to compare anything to the chaos mounts, though. Of course, I can't wait for the DE mounts to come out to see how it goes.

EDIT: I like the first and second tier design best. The issue I have with the design is that the armor is not very flattering to the horse's body, whereas the armor for the other mounts is. The empire mount is impressive. The dwarf mount is so-so. Also, it may be because the HE horses look far less stout than the other horses. Their limbs are thinner, look more delicate. I like the beauty of the first tier design, though. If they made the limbs a tad thicker, though, with more body-flattering armor, it'd be perfect. It also has to do with the fact that the design is very monochromatic when compared to the other mounts; the design is too white/silver, which could also clash with the white/silver clad HE's attires.

[Olin]

I think the HE mount looks pretty damn good, you couldnt ask for anything more if your a swordmaster, now where is my chariot & White lion mount? :p

[Earth Dragon]

Why are some you down on Elves RIDING WHAT THEY ACTUALLY RIDE.

If they usually rode rhinos or something, then I could see people being upset. But all their cavalry rides horseback in the tabletop plain and simple. No need to change it.

But I suppose people might complain when Lizardmen come out and now we have two races riding Cold Ones. Who cares. I think it was stupid that every race had to have their own mount in that other game, and they come out with stupid looking elephants and chocobos to keep up with the trend.

[OnyxBMW]

why do people constantly say the chaos mount is a horse? I mean, the thing isn't! It looks like a horse, but the thing is mutated! It has FOUR eyes! The thing is more of a Nightmare than anything!!!


But I digress. The HE horse is fun in my opinion, aside from standing with its neck out. The thing looks very posh in the concept art, so they at least captured the feel of the HE's.

[Dagoth]

I don´t know what some of you expected, the mount it´s a tipical HE horse, identical to the ones you can find in TT.

Now you will say you´d rather ride a booze-fueled tractor.

[Gromli-son of Kartek]

Ya, I know it looks elvish and all, but I would like it to look more "warlike" and less ... pretty ...maybe its those wings that sets me off. btw I'm reffering to http://warhammervault.ign.com/screenshots/?ss=952&view=ss&page=1&cat=4 (http://warhammervault.ign.com/screenshots/?ss=952&view=ss&page=1&cat=4)

lol i thought you high elfs were all about being pretty.

[BIGRIG97]

I don´t know what some of you expected, the mount it´s a tipical HE horse, identical to the ones you can find in TT.

Now you will say you´d rather ride a booze-fueled tractor.

I can understand why 99% of you guys like the mount, but personally I have never played the TT game, and know basically nothing about lore. I only started to research about this game a little while ago, yes I am a ex-wow player, and I couldn't imagine playing anything but elves. I guess it might be because I don't know much about the elves, and their history that I'm not as attracted to the mount as much as well, and I sorta wanted to see more diverse animals for mounts.

However, knowing now that you can change your horse color makes me think different about the steed.

[Nassarm]

Quite frankly, i love the HE mount :rolleyes: (and NO, dont say i should marry it...). I just hope i can get it in a dark navyish/black colour, (to suit the silver helm theme in the TT eg: http://www.adeptusminneapolis.com/Pictures/lg_100_2093.jpg ) *not mine lol*

[Thorval]

I can understand why 99% of you guys like the mount, but personally I have never played the TT game, and know basically nothing about lore. I only started to research about this game a little while ago, yes I am a ex-wow player, and I couldn't imagine playing anything but elves. I guess it might be because I don't know much about the elves, and their history that I'm not as attracted to the mount as much as well, and I sorta wanted to see more diverse animals for mounts.

However, knowing now that you can change your horse color makes me think different about the steed.

Sorry they're not a chocobo rip off :/

[Avatar Of War]

Nothing fancy, no surprises in the selection of mounts, classic appeal, and stylish without being flashy.


I'm Avatar of War, and I approved this message!:rolleyes:

[BIGRIG97]

Sorry they're not a chocobo rip off :/

Hey man, I was only stating my opinion :). What's up with the wow hate around here?

Anyways, personally I would've liked to see a variety of animals, but obviously the elven steed is the only choice for the mount.

[Providence]

>< It isn't pretty! It's regal damnit!

[Earth Dragon]

Hey man, I was only stating my opinion :). What's up with the wow hate around here?

Anyways, personally I would've liked to see a variety of animals, but obviously the elven steed is the only choice for the mount.
I don't think it is hate so much as people feeling that WAR shouldn't "sell out" just because people are used to something being a certain way.

The Elves have some of the best looking cavalry on the TT game, and we want to keep that in this game. The only other things they ride are dragons, griffons, and giant eagles. I don't think any of those would go over well.

[Drahcar]

Well the picture to me shows a horse which is a little to skinny that is wearing heavy armor but over all not to shabby it deffinently is a better sight then a WoW mount trust me. MAybe for White Lions they will have White Lion mounts.. I know the whole He-man look would be there but seriously from some of the figures I have seen some of the figures and white lions are pulling them on a chariot so why not have a different type of white lion for a mount?

[Daedarin]

Would have been cool with a unicorn though, especially for Archmages...

[Covenant Prophet]

I'd prefer Pegasus rather than Unicorn. Wings!

[Athenys]

Would have been cool with a unicorn though, especially for Archmages...

Unless an Archmage took an early vow of chastity he/she would be more likely to get skewered by said unicorn if they tried to force it to serve as a mount. Much like the unicorns found in other settings (ie: Shalkan in the Obsidian Trilogy) Warhammer unicorns allow only the very pure to ride them IIRC. Needless to say, most elves do NOT qualify for obvious reasons ;)...

[Blake]

They could atleast remove the damn feather, that would help alot! Otherwise it looks fine, but it's nothing spectacular. Personally I'd prefer dragons from Caledor but that would make all the other mounts seem like rubbish. Perhaps this is an option if flying mounts ever gets introduced.

[VeriusCarth]

Compared to the TT model (which I've never liked) it looks correct. However, on the whole, I agree with Athenys. I like Arabians, but I just don't think they fit in this case.

[aegir]

If anything the Akhal-Teke is, at least in conformation, the 'greyhound' of the horse world :confused:. It's built for speed plain and simple. Not only is it the oldest of all domesticated horse breeds, no other horse is as fine-boned and elegant yet endurant to a point that is seemingly impossible for so slight a frame! Arabians are totally different, they are compact (read SHORT) horses with wider hooves ideally suited for running over loose, sandy soil. I can almost picture a 6'5" HE mounting an Arabian horse only to have his heels drag unceremoniously on the ground :rolleyes:...

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b362/aimelek/tekevsarab.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBqIiKPLv1M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-I8cGPjE7c4

One problem Arabian breeders have been facing recently is a market trend that favors taller horses. What you end up with when you breed for excessive height in Arabians are 'peanut pushing' pleasure horses that couldn't move right if their lives depended on it! That certainly wouldn't fit the bill for HE either...
Looks more alien. Fits the High Elf. VOTING FOR Akhal-Teke

[Estebar]

Unless an Archmage took an early vow of chastity he/she would be more likely to get skewered by said unicorn if they tried to force it to serve as a mount. Much like the unicorns found in other settings (ie: Shalkan in the Obsidian Trilogy) Warhammer unicorns allow only the very pure to ride them IIRC. Needless to say, most elves do NOT qualify for obvious reasons ;)... Are you suggesting Elves are libidinous?

I always considered most High Elves to be rather pure and chaste. Their courting rituals are very lengthy and formal, and honour means everything to them. Especially Archmages. I doubt they have the time to be anything but chaste, locked up in that White Tower with a bunch of books...

[Dan da Man]

The HE mounts don't really fit the shadow warrior though. I was wondering if the shadow warrior had a different mount or if the white lions might get their chariots?

[Athenys]

Are you suggesting Elves are libidinous?

By victorian standards a good many are 'loose' ;). Based on the fluff even HE don't seem to have quite the same taboos about nudity and sexuality that some human cultures do. To them sleeping around isn't that big a deal provided the people involved are discreet about the affair.

[Kitsune]

I think the HE mount look awesome. I'll look fresh riding around on that. As for armored tigers and ostriches I personally thought those were cool to. Although I would prefer riding this over a hawkstrider anyday.

[aegir]

The HE mounts don't really fit the shadow warrior though. I was wondering if the shadow warrior had a different mount or if the white lions might get their chariots?
Don't think white lions will get their chariot, that would be just too awesome.
About shadow warriors: you can propably pick another colored mount, something like grey, and then dye the saddle black or green or whatever other color you want, also you can ofcourse use trophies to decorate your mount in a more shadow warrior-appropriate fashion.

[Estebar]

By victorian standards a good many are 'loose' ;). Based on the fluff even HE don't seem to have quite the same taboos about nudity and sexuality that some human cultures do. To them sleeping around isn't that big a deal provided the people involved are discreet about the affair. Where are you getting this from? Is it related to the Phoenix King-Everqueen relationship? I thought the High Elves were supposed to be stereotypical sexually-repressed Victorian Brits? I haven't heard of a single nude High Elf to date!

Early in their struggles against the Ruinous Powers, the Elves discovered that negative emotions such as fear, rage, jealousy and greed serve to fuel and strengthen the power of Chaos. Since that time, the High Elves have struggled to keep their intense passions tightly under control. Though intelligent and enlightened, all Elves have the capacity for savage violence.. In order to suppress this dangerous and unpredictable aspect of their psyche, the lords of Ulthuan continually strive to eliminate all extremes of emotion; in High Elf society, to surrender to anger or lust is to show weakness. As a result, the High Elves live by a strict regimen of rules and codes and embrace a way of life that emphasizes harmony, balance and inner peace.

[Knolle]

The HE mounts don't really fit the shadow warrior though. I was wondering if the shadow warrior had a different mount or if the white lions might get their chariots?

Eh, I don't see how it doesn't fit.
Scouts: Move around to scout for and disrupt enemy movements.
Mounts: Move fast
Elvish Steed: Elf mount.

Only problematic thing I could see would be the barding, but I figure that might not be the same armor for just about everyone. I figure the Shadow Warriors steed would look more like a Glade Riders or Dark Riders steed, while a Swordmasters would be heavily armored in ilithimar (that the word?) barding.

[Mercer7]

Right, about Shadow Warriors and the mount, there's no issue. First of all, a Shadowlander would take what he can get. Secondly, they despise all things druchii, despite having taken up darker personalities themselves, and therefore wouldn't want a mount that made them look like one of their twisted kin.

They're still Asur. Tall, thin, graceful elves.

As far as Chariots, that would be pretty epic. It's fun to think about that being in the end game.

[Athenys]

Where are you getting this from? Is it related to the Phoenix King-Everqueen relationship? I thought the High Elves were supposed to be stereotypical sexually-repressed Victorian Brits? I haven't heard of a single nude High Elf to date!

They only seem that way to outsiders, the truth of the matter is quite surprising. In many ways they are like RL Victorian Brits! (Where are you getting this from? Is it related to the Phoenix King-Everqueen relationship? I thought the High Elves were supposed to be stereotypical sexually-repressed Victorian Brits? I haven't heard of a single nude High Elf to date!) HE take pride in wearing some of the most ornate (some would say gaudy) clothing possible which is why they are generally more clothed than not. But if an elf sees a stranger of the opposite sex naked they don't consider it shameful or overtly sexual, unlike many Imperials and Brettonians. It's a fact that HE also tolerate premarital and extramarital relations, that HE prostitutes exist and that some well-to-do HE men in Lothern keep human concubines. Read 'Giantslayer', 'Guardians of the Forest' and 'Defenders of Ulthuan'. It's important to note that DE evolved from the exact same root culture; in HE 'base' passions are held in check by a greater degree of self-control and complex rules of etiquette. These ain't Tolkien's elves my friend ;)...

[Nassarm]

a chariot would look silly as a mount because they're quite big and people flying about on chariots all over the place would be wrong. White Lions should get a Lion as a mount, that would be unbelievably class. the rest can settle with good ol' Elven Horses.

[Athenys]

Lions aren't normally ridden by HE and tying them to a chariot is undignified enough. Not to mention that as chaotic creatures they can be somewhat unpredictable and that felines in general aren't really built for riding, contrary to what WoW would have you believe...

[Mercer7]

a chariot would look silly as a mount because they're quite big and people flying about on chariots all over the place would be wrong.

Goblins! (http://www.crazy-achmed.com/ca/images/gbl_stw.jpg)

Dark Elves! (http://us.games-workshop.com/games/warhammer/darkelves/painting/olliegray/images/chariot-small.jpg)

Orcs! (http://kraktor.dk/pics/120507.jpg)

High Elves? (http://wargamingforums.com/graphics/fantasy/high%20elves/2007/helionchariot.jpg)

I don't think it'll look silly when 'all the races are doing it.'

[Kitsune]

What the hell is that pulling the dark elves?

Also I think everyone riding chariots around would look a little silly. Riding on the back of a mount just looks more cool to me.

[Dan da Man]

What the hell is that pulling the dark elves?

Also I think everyone riding chariots around would look a little silly. Riding on the back of a mount just looks more cool to me.
I think, from my severely limited and knewly acquired lore knowledge, that they are Cold Ones?

[Athenys]

Some DE players refer to them as 'Battle Cows' for a reason ;). Those models are somewhat ugly, the good news is that the new sculpt is a huge improvement. I can't wait until the new DE armybook comes out...

[Kitsune]

Damn I might roll a DE just to ride one of those. Good thing I already had an interest in making a Witch Elf.