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insurection
12-05-2007, 06:50 PM
hey just trying to figure out some stuff.

1. will choppas grow bigger as they grow in rank or will they stay the same been unsure about it.

2. choppas as of right now are able to use 2hand weps right?

3.anyone heard/seen anything about specific talent trees/talents?

thanks in advance. peace.:mrgreen:

Necrotoxin
12-05-2007, 06:53 PM
hey just trying to figure out some stuff.

1. will choppas grow bigger as they grow in rank or will they stay the same been unsure about it.

2. choppas as of right now are able to use 2hand weps right?

3.anyone heard/seen anything about specific talent trees/talents?

thanks in advance. peace.:mrgreen:


Not 100% on this.

1. Yes they get bigger as they level, but not as big as a black orc. They also grow when they build rage.

2. I think they can only use duel one handers

3. no sorry :(

Nordug
12-05-2007, 06:57 PM
As far as I'm aware Choppas grow bigger as they rank, and even bigger as combat progresses.

http://www.war-resource.com/careers/choppa.php think thats what we know about Choppas

Kilrogg-WHA
12-05-2007, 07:25 PM
The whole growing bigger/beards growing longer/etc thing hasn't been mentioned by Mythic in nearly 2 years, so I doubt it's still in, but that's just my opinion. Either it turned out to be harder to pull off than their thought or other things probably took priority over it or both.

Vidrak
12-07-2007, 02:14 PM
The whole growing bigger/beards growing longer/etc thing hasn't been mentioned by Mythic in nearly 2 years, so I doubt it's still in, but that's just my opinion. Either it turned out to be harder to pull off than their thought or other things probably took priority over it or both.
I remember seeing a movie rather recently with a Choppa fighting something in combat and you could see him growing. In fact, that is what the whole demo was about.

The video could have been old, but I hope not. This is a great idea to add to the feeling of accomplishment and power as you level up with your character. We shall see.

XShrike
12-07-2007, 02:21 PM
The whole growing bigger/beards growing longer/etc thing hasn't been mentioned by Mythic in nearly 2 years, so I doubt it's still in, but that's just my opinion. Either it turned out to be harder to pull off than their thought or other things probably took priority over it or both.

I am not sure but, I am seeing the Mastery system being if not a replacement at least an addition to this. The descriptions of the system talks about how the Mastery paths will physically change your appearance as well.

I remember seeing a movie rather recently with a Choppa fighting something in combat and you could see him growing. In fact, that is what the whole demo was about.

The video could have been old, but I hope not. This is a great idea to add to the feeling of accomplishment and power as you level up with your character. We shall see.

When Mythic first announced this game they talked about how as you ranked up your character would permanently physically change. What you are talking about is a skill that temporally makes the Choppa bigger to show the skill is working.

Vidrak
12-07-2007, 03:17 PM
When Mythic first announced this game they talked about how as you ranked up your character would permanently physically change. What you are talking about is a skill that temporally makes the Choppa bigger to show the skill is working.
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You failed to see the point I was making. The point that the ability to increase the size of a character in the game was there and working (as in from a technical and implementation standpoint). That was the entire point of the demo. So, IMO, not including it would be kind of a waste if you already had it working, right?

Or maybe they just don't want to figure out ways to have the other races "expand and grow" as they go up in tier and power. Who knows. But I do think it was a cool and unique idea for this game.

linuxnacrot
12-07-2007, 08:02 PM
The whole growing bigger/beards growing longer/etc thing hasn't been mentioned by Mythic in nearly 2 years, so I doubt it's still in, but that's just my opinion. Either it turned out to be harder to pull off than their thought or other things probably took priority over it or both.

I really hope its still in, it was innovative and a nice detail. It doesn't seem like it'd be too hard to implement.

Axxar
12-08-2007, 03:08 AM
Barnett was recently asked if the orc size growth was still going to be in the game, to which he replied something along the lines of "Have you seen the tier 4 black orcs?".

mouldylock
12-08-2007, 05:33 AM
why would a choppa NOT be able to use a two-hander? he's called a choppa- therefore he can use all choppas, why wouldn't he be able to? only thing I don't see him using is a sheild, beacause he's a CHOPPA:mrgreen:
and that's a fact!
of that you can be sure
that's a wrap
case closed

Feigro
12-08-2007, 06:20 AM
You failed to see the point I was making. The point that the ability to increase the size of a character in the game was there and working (as in from a technical and implementation standpoint). That was the entire point of the demo. So, IMO, not including it would be kind of a waste if you already had it working, right.

There's a difference between clicking an ability and growing compared to naturally growing as you progress through the game. Which is what Shrike was saying. Choppas grow when they use they enter their Berzerk (and subsequently shrink back to size when it wears off). What you saw was different from the progression-based growth that was called into question.

Endemikus
12-08-2007, 06:29 AM
There's a difference between clicking an ability and growing compared to naturally growing as you progress through the game. Which is what Shrike was saying. Choppas grow when they use they enter their Berzerk (and subsequently shrink back to size when it wears off). What you saw was different from the progression-based growth that was called into question.

I think the point he was making was that, if Mythic have implemented some kind of PC physical growth, be it short-term ability based or long-term progression based, then physical growth of some kind is in the game, and they don't have any real excuse to not include it across the board. I suppose that statement is pretty easy to argue with but please don't shoot the messenger (assuming I even got the message right) :D

NoneSuch
12-08-2007, 06:33 AM
I hope to god they still have it, or that would mean Elves are going to be taller than orcs I think. If they can't implant it over time, they should simply be the hieght they where going to be at tier 4 upon creation.

Orcs.. are supposed to be towering monsters, it be an utter shame if they removed this.

Also Feirgo If they could easily increase the players size how is that any different from having a size buff as you leveled up? It's using the same mechanics yet one is permanent while the other isn't. I'm pretty sure if they could implant growing in size as you fought, they could easily implant growing in size as you leveled.

Technically Two-handed orc weaponary are usually refered to as "Cleava's" Rather than choppa's, but I do agree - Choppa's should be able to use Two-handers if they so wish - yet those two-handers should be designed for choppa's and should look different from blorc weaponary.

XShrike
12-08-2007, 10:08 PM
About the only reason I can think of to scrape the changing as you rank up is if they couldn't figure out how to do it with the other armies. Orcs are pretty easy but, the other armies could be more difficult.

Krulltak
12-08-2007, 10:19 PM
About the only reason I can think of to scrape the changing as you rank up is if they couldn't figure out how to do it with the other armies. Orcs are pretty easy but, the other armies could be more difficult.


You don't HAVE to have a unique progression, to be honest. Fancier gear is traditional and it's something everyone has as a sign of progression. If the lore and common sense won't allow it, as far as I see it's not that big a deal anyway.

Garukk
12-09-2007, 11:00 PM
why would a choppa NOT be able to use a two-hander? he's called a choppa- therefore he can use all choppas, why wouldn't he be able to? only thing I don't see him using is a sheild, beacause he's a CHOPPA:mrgreen:
and that's a fact!
of that you can be sure
that's a wrap
case closed

Wrong thread champ

Vidrak
12-10-2007, 08:28 AM
I think the point he was making was that, if Mythic have implemented some kind of PC physical growth, be it short-term ability based or long-term progression based, then physical growth of some kind is in the game, and they don't have any real excuse to not include it across the board. I suppose that statement is pretty easy to argue with but please don't shoot the messenger (assuming I even got the message right) :D
You got it right :) Having the choppa grow over 20-30 seconds when in Berserk, is no different than having ANY creature grow over their life time (except the time difference). I am saying, from a techincal standpoint, it is possible right now.

Orcs do grow larger over time, as well as stronger. And if it is possible (and implemented) from a technical standpoint, my question and point is, why would you not make this a reality in game for the Greenskins?

Obby
12-10-2007, 08:33 AM
Wrong thread champ
Read question number 2 of the OP.