Male or Female?

[Deathlok]

Havn't seen one of these for Sorcerer/Sorceress

Based on your gut feeling at this time ignoring if you are waiting to see which one looks better on the day.

Which Gender are you likely to choose. Male or Female?

[Duty]

Male or female what? What we are going to play? Which one is going to look best? Which one we'll see more of?

I assume it's which we'll play, but the question is too vague.

[Deathlok]

Apologies.
Thought it was stright forward.
Nevertheless my question has been altered and your assumption was correct.

[Zzulu]

If I can play a fat hag sorceress I'd totally do it.

Otherwise a regular sorceress will be fine. The female concept art was pretty great.

[Azrayne2.0]

Whichever is more aesthetically pleasing I guess. Going purely on the concept art, so far that's female, but we'll see when the game goes live.

[Peemja]

It has to be female for me.
From what I've seen in the concept arts, the male looks like the dullest of them all. :/

[liffi]

I sure play females sometimes and that's nothing to do that they look sexy... No I don't tell that it's a bad thing that the female has barely any clothes. I just say that isn't my reason to do it. But yeah mostly I play males and my first char is going to be male and my main is male.

[Kharlene]

Female. I play my own gender.

[Slash]

I'm going female also. I have always played males, so I might give a female a try. Plus there is the added incentive by lore. (I'm male IRL)

[Emeraldw99]

Female. I play my own gender.

Your braver than I am. I used to play female avatars all the time in my last MMO's. I never told anyone my gender, so they assumed I was a female. I could notice a clear distinction in the way I was treated compared to peers and found it much harder than my "percieved male" counterparts to be accepted as a competent and powerful player. I salute you madam.

This time around, I'm going male if I can. I like the fully decked out look of the Sorcerer, but I am still deciding between Sorc and Magus. (btw, did anyone else notice all the cuts made on the sorceress? I mean seriously....)

[thestarheart]

Male, for the same reason that I play my own gender :)

[Alota]

Female. I always played female in MMO's, plus I like to preserve the lore.

[Ruk]

Female. The concept art looks better and is more fitting to the dark, powerful, self-hurting sorceress.

[Sinfjotle]

Female, male characters always look fugly to me.

[Krulltak]

Sorceresses, and anyone who dares to play a Sorcerer, I will cut them. I will ****ing cut them.
Seriously.

Where the hell are my female marauders and Chosen?

[The Penguin Hunter]

Sorceresses, and anyone who dares to play a Sorcerer, I will cut them. I will ****ing cut them.
Seriously.

Where the hell are my female marauders and Chosen?


Sorry Krull, but if I played a Sorcerer which admitedly isn't really high on my list, i'd play male, as lore breaking as it is to the current edtion of TT lore :(

[The Disciple]

As a bloke I've always prefered going for a male character in games.

Altho with fantasy I've prefered the general look of female casters especially with the Sorceress, so I'll be rolling a female character atleast for my main.

[Frein]

It's a tough call.

I'm interested in the sorceress as a character class and it has a good chance of being the class of my choice if I buy WAR, but I'm not at all certain which gender I would play. The female one has much better concept art. Especially the low tier male version is really dull. Plus, male elves in general are pretty boring to me.

On the other hand, I do prefer to play as my own gender, and unless there are significant enough other factors, I will always play male. Right now I'm leaning towards female because it simply looks better (and it's sexier as well!) and it fits the lore better.

[kharnage]

I never play females, always males. I will try playing orcs too though:p!

[Lemures]

Those female dark elves look a bit sexy, I'll play one of them. Fo zle ma s.

[Dan gerous]

Male, purely for the social aspect of a MMO.
I would like people to think I'm male, because I am. Last time I checked.
Both arts look scrumptious though.

[Kros Trikare]

Male. My mains are always my real-life gender.

[Specter]

male.
i just dont feel comfortable with a female avatar :)

besides, i dont perceive it as extremely lore-breaking, the "prophecy" itself states that there have to be male sorcerers!
and i think it would be more fun to be an outlaw anyway :P

[CharlieTango]

Going to play a female...I find it easier playing a char as my own gender than I would the opposite. Maybe I'm strange.

[OnyxBMW]

Male. As much fun as it is to cross over to the other side and make a female every so-often, unless I perceive the game on a less serious level (IE, I don't feel as attached to my character) then I feel off playing female characters. Perhaps I'm weird like that.

[shotgunbadger]

Male player, gonna make a female sorceress though.

A) Dislike the lore reason for males.

B) The male art looks so dull.

[Lucrece]

Male player, gonna make a female sorceress though.

A) Dislike the lore reason for males.

B) The male art looks so dull.

Same, except for A.

The lore reasons are not the best they could've invoked, but the ban can easily be worked around if Mythic plays it smart.

[shotgunbadger]

Same, except for A.

The lore reasons are not the best they could've invoked, but the ban can easily be worked around if Mythic plays it smart.

Yea, can kinda see how it works, I just personally don't much care for it, to be honest I should flip those around, B is really the main reason, compaired with female art male looks drab and lame, the lore is just me being an RP jerk :cool:

[OnyxBMW]

Yea, can kinda see how it works, I just personally don't much care for it, to be honest I should flip those around, B is really the main reason, compaired with female art male looks drab and lame, the lore is just me being an RP jerk :cool:

Frankly, the concept art means nothing compared to the in-game model. Maybe they'll fix all the crap in the concept and make it look better by the time of release?

Only time will tell, and I hope the in-game version looks better than the current one.

[Auku]

Sorceresses, and anyone who dares to play a Sorcerer, I will cut them. I will ****ing cut them.
Seriously.

Where the hell are my female marauders and Chosen?

Aw... I'm going to get cut. :(

[abr4]

Female.

I don't have any problems playing a female toon and I had never any problems with other players when playing a female toon.

[WastedTrojan]

Female

I usually play female toons and I couldn't play a male sorcerer, just wouldn't feel right.

[sindbad]

I always make sure my character has a decent behind, 'cause I'll be staring at it for hours.

The current male concept art is crap, so even though I'm a bloke if I play a sorc I'll get the female one.

[damsel]

There shouldn't be male sorcs.....

[i fart rainbows]

Playing female avatars as a man is like being a crossdresser; no thanks.

The design of the sorceress armor looks artistically superior though.

[The Penguin Hunter]

I was actualy thinking about playing a male Sorcerer, I like the mechanic and everything... but they look completly bland.

[Mirufi]

I always play male toons, female irl ~

[Lucrece]

I always play male toons, female irl ~

Tsk, tsk, you must definitely be a crossdresser!

[Mirufi]

Sometimes I cross-dress...

[i fart rainbows]

Sometimes I cross-dress...

I prefer jeans and t-shirt apart from work.

Women look hot stuffed into tiny jeans and t-shirts.



I have a double standard on this one, plus my hairly legs look awful in a skirt.

[Ariel]

Male. I only play female characters when I'm not offered the choice of a somewhat elegant male avatar.

[Nidayen]

Male for certain, I just couldn't bring myself to play a female toon.

[Estebar]

Male, because I enjoy playing the underdog, or unconventional choice.

However, I'd like to think that I knew enough about females to know how to play one. I have a mother, grandmother, sisters, cousins, friends and ex-girlfriends who all happen to be female, not to mention all those women I happen to see on the tv screen, read about in books, see in plays and such.

Roleplaying as a cross-dresser is like being a cross-dresser.

Playing female avatars as a man is feeling confident enough to play as a character who is different from your own. It's a challenge. When a talented actor or actress plays as a character of a different age, race, gender, species or time-period than their own, everyone praises them for doing it well despite the obvious difficulties they may have encountered in trying to discover the right mind-set for the job.

I realise the average stereotypical pre-teen video gaming nerd doesn't usually get much time to socialise with women, so I can understand how the concept of trying to play as one might be a challenge for him, but I'd like to think even he knows at least one female in real-life to give him an idea on how to play as one.

It fascinates me how people can feel perfectly fine playing a bloodthirsty, sadistic, xenophobic pro-slavery mass-murderer or an ape-like green fungus with no genitals but they find the concept of playing a *gasp* female unthinkable because it might reflect badly on them as a player.

[Lucrece]

Male, because I enjoy playing the underdog, or unconventional choice.

However, I'd like to think that I knew enough about females to know how to play one. I have a mother, grandmother, sisters, cousins, friends and ex-girlfriends who all happen to be female, not to mention all those women I happen to see on the tv screen, read about in books, see in plays and such.

Roleplaying as a cross-dresser is like being a cross-dresser.

Playing female avatars as a man is feeling confident enough to play as a character who is different from your own. It's a challenge. When a talented actor or actress plays as a character of a different age, race, gender, species or time-period than their own, everyone praises them for doing it well despite the obvious difficulties they may have encountered in trying to discover the right mind-set for the job.

I realise the average stereotypical pre-teen video gaming nerd doesn't usually get much time to socialise with women, so I can understand how the concept of trying to play as one might be a challenge for him, but I'd like to think even he knows at least one female in real-life to give him an idea on how to play as one.

It fascinates me how people can feel perfectly fine playing a bloodthirsty, sadistic, xenophobic pro-slavery mass-murderer or an ape-like green fungus with no genitals but they find the concept of playing a *gasp* female unthinkable because it might reflect badly on them as a player.


If any of this concerned my previous post, please be assured that I was being sarcastic ;p.

I'm not lying! Please don't call me an "average stereotypical pre-teen video gaming nerd"!

[Estebar]

Not you, Lucrece. I've post-warred with you enough times already to know when you're being sarcastic. ;)

[Lucrece]

Not you, Lucrece. I've post-warred with you enough times already to know when you're being sarcastic. ;)


I don't recall being sarcastic with you. You're a special darling of mine; we don't "war"; we lovingly "bicker".

<3 :mrgreen:

[Dukha]

*Reads trough Estebars big post and nods happily*

*Sees nothing to add, votes "female" and slinks away, wondering if any of that post could be used in a sig...*

[Fyaniz]

Male characters never really feel like "me" for some reason, I can't identify with them.

edit: In case anyone's interested, I'm undecided about my RL gender, but if you saw me you'd most likely (depending on how far away you were standing and whether or not I was moving) perceive me as male.

[Eliphas-WorldBearer]

Male since I dont wanna get approached by sex deparved retards with the typical a/s/l or lets cyber BS

[Ldyroses]

Female. I play my own gender.
Same here, I am female, so I play female, only seems more normal.

[LandHawk]

Havn't seen one of these for Sorcerer/Sorceress

Based on your gut feeling at this time ignoring if you are waiting to see which one looks better on the day.

Which Gender are you likely to choose. Male or Female?

I don't play females as I don't have much experience with females and probably wouldn't roleplay one very convincingly. Furthermore, the male aesthetic appeals to me more.

I know this might sound self-limiting from a role-play perspective, but in the grand scheme of things the only difference between men and women are their biology, and the few biological factors women can take advantage of don't really interest me.

I hope that didn't sound misogynistic. For the record, I don't believe men are inherently better or make better characters or archetypes than women do. I fully expect there are quite a few female roleplayers out there that have no interest in playing a male (and many that do, as well).

..No matter how I phrase this I always sound like a jerk to myself. :(

[Origomar]

I don't play females as I don't have much experience with females and probably wouldn't roleplay one very convincingly. Furthermore, the male aesthetic appeals to me more.

I know this might sound self-limiting from a role-play perspective, but in the grand scheme of things the only difference between men and women are their biology, and the few biological factors women can take advantage of don't really interest me.

I hope that didn't sound misogynistic. For the record, I don't believe men are inherently better or make better characters or archetypes than women do. I fully expect there are quite a few female roleplayers out there that have no interest in playing a male (and many that do, as well).

..No matter how I phrase this I always sound like a jerk to myself. :(
You arent being a jerk. Your also trying relly hard to not be one XD.

[Zante]

I don't play females as I don't have much experience with females and probably wouldn't roleplay one very convincingly. Furthermore, the male aesthetic appeals to me more.

I know this might sound self-limiting from a role-play perspective, but in the grand scheme of things the only difference between men and women are their biology, and the few biological factors women can take advantage of don't really interest me.

I hope that didn't sound misogynistic. For the record, I don't believe men are inherently better or make better characters or archetypes than women do. I fully expect there are quite a few female roleplayers out there that have no interest in playing a male (and many that do, as well).

..No matter how I phrase this I always sound like a jerk to myself. :(

Few biological factors they can take advantage of? I must admit, I'm confused. Are you referring to the fact that in humanity, women have greater muscle density and consequently appear less muscled then men? In terms of pure strength potential, from a purely biological perspective they're equal.

[Jaisee]

I will play a female,because of my rl gender and I just don't feel comfortable playing male. I will also go one further and say that because I am shallow I hope we'll have more than 2 skin colors and 3 hairstyles.

[GrumpyJester]

Has any lore-justification been given as to why male Dark Elf sorcerers aren't killed off anymore?

IIRC, it had something to do with a prophecy foretelling the Witch King would fall by a male sorcerer's hands or something, right? If this is the case, I'll be playing a male sorcerer...I might become the next Witch King! :mrgreen:

[MHDShogun]

Has any lore-justification been given as to why male Dark Elf sorcerers aren't killed off anymore?

IIRC, it had something to do with a prophecy foretelling the Witch King would fall by a male sorcerer's hands or something, right? If this is the case, I'll be playing a male sorcerer...I might become the next Witch King! :mrgreen:

Ya, that was the reason that Malekith didn't like them. It basically said that in WAR he needed all the troops he could get for the WAR so he allowed them, but is keeping them under close watch and on a list and such. I also like that Malekith fears male sorcerers as well, and will definitely have one of my characters be one for that reason. :D

Also, has anyone else noticed that sorcerers (male ones at least) have the heaviest-looking armor of all the cloth caster classes?

http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/media/images/careers/socc_06.jpg

Mostly the shoulders, but also depends on what you're comparing it to. I was including the Runepriest, Shaman, Archmage, Bright Wizard, Zealot, Magus, and Sorcerer when I said cloth caster classes. The Magus also has heavier-looking armor

http://www.warhammeronline.com/english/gameInfo/armiesofWAR/Chaos/Careers/images/Magus01_06.jpg

Not that I'm saying that they will have higher armor values than the other cloth-wearing casters, but it just looks badass. But i don't know, maybe we don't have the final tiers for some of the casters' concept art.

Edit: Ehh, actually, the Magus armor looks way heavier than the Sorcerer's.

Edit: Btw, I play male for the same reason that most females play females. I am a male, and hence, play the same gender. I can't really identify with a female character, since I am male, and I see roleplaying as playing a character that you identify with.

[Ergo]

Following the lore i would make a female, not that i know anything about the lore currently ;), they just look 10x better currently.

Then i will make a male char as an alt, as i am male irl.

[Cactus]

I dont know what it is but the idea of playing as a female seems just odd to me, i dont understand it. Maybe im uncomofortable wiht sexuality? I dont know. It just seems odd playing as a female toon if youre male irl, why is it so popular?

[Ergo]

I dont know what it is but the idea of playing as a female seems just odd to me, i dont understand it. Maybe im uncomofortable wiht sexuality? I dont know. It just seems odd playing as a female toon if youre male irl, why is it so popular?

I never have played a female character as a main before. Really i see no difference in it, i get no kicks out of it sexually, the only downside is people hassling females for that reason and people pretending to be female for free stuff.

I will make my final decision when we know everything and it comes to creating the character, sorcerer/ess sounds like a fun class to play as i enjoy casters as a main but normally pick a hybrid. I just hope it won't be overpopulated, as there is no fun in that.

[Aviator]

I dont know what it is but the idea of playing as a female seems just odd to me, i dont understand it. Maybe im uncomofortable wiht sexuality? I dont know. It just seems odd playing as a female toon if youre male irl, why is it so popular?
I've never seen the character as an extension as myself. To me playing the opposite gender is no different than playing an Orc.

[Mapex]

Male since I dont wanna get approached by sex deparved retards with the typical a/s/l or lets cyber BS

ZOMG A/S/L?!? LETS CYBURRR!!

[Constraint]

wtb Buttsecks

[Avi]

I dont know what it is but the idea of playing as a female seems just odd to me, i dont understand it. Maybe im uncomofortable wiht sexuality? I dont know. It just seems odd playing as a female toon if youre male irl, why is it so popular?

I always find it easier to play female characters. People were always much nicer to me and respectful around me, but you do find some people that are prejudiced against it. That think males will always be better at gaming, even though you've proven yourself time and time again that you are better then them. I have never encountered problems with little kids wanting to cyber and stuff. That's never happened to me. Maybe my characters are all just unattractive or something :roll:.

[Tomkek]

I lyke my char to be hawt lawls

And on a more serious level... Well I'll go for female due to the estethics basically. Concept arts look amazing and the ingame footage isn't bad either. ;)

[Chosen]

Well I'm going to choose male, but thats simply because I'm going to play a Chosen.
I have no problem in playing female toons (I'm Male IRL) simply because I know I'm going to be staring at that screen for hours on end, and I prefer to be looking at at female's behind (YES! I know it's only pixels!!!) over a male's any day...

But mainly I choose male/female from what I think fits best into the lore and look of the toon I'm going to be playing.

I've been playing both males and females in WoW now for the best part of three years, and I have never experienced anyone judging people from the gender they play. Perhaps because the people on the server I'm on are spread out about 50/50 - 60/40 as play-gender.

On the other hand, I've experienced people running mentally around in small circles, jumping in and out of glasses of matini going "I'm a banana! I'm a banana!!" once they actually figured out that there are IRL females in my guild (I'm currently a GM). And on more than one occation I've been forced to ban people from our VT or actually /guildkick them because they couldn't leave these very same females alone.
Funny how some people react when they are interacting with the opposite sex...

[Ergo]

Funny how some people react when they are interacting with the opposite sex...

Ergo touches a female, *gains cooties*, crits for 9999999999 :(.

Only joking :)

[Taystud]

The female looks pretty sweet..male looks kinda dull.

And...people will help you out more if they think your a female irl
BUTTSECKS PLZ

[Ancharez]

When I roll one for an alt, my dark elf will be most likely be male.

Most of my characters tend to be male (female irl) ... the what-the-f@#! moments are simply too much to miss out on. There's nothing like almost wiping a raid because you've spoken up for the first time on Vent.

[Knolle]

Heh, these discussions about "males playing females" pops up way too often. I find it to be a dead horse.

[WastedTrojan]

I dont know what it is but the idea of playing as a female seems just odd to me, i dont understand it. Maybe im uncomofortable wiht sexuality? I dont know. It just seems odd playing as a female toon if youre male irl, why is it so popular?

Im a man irl but i play as females in games almost exclusively. I generally like the way the female toons look better, also in most games the males look like body builders. I work out every day and i have a good build but im not 6'5 250 like most of the males in games.

Playing as a male that is MUCH larger than me feels just as foreign as playing as a female or an orc. I prefer to play as females mainly because they look better and usually have better animations.

Also a toon is just a toon to me. They are not a representation of myself so I don't really care if my toon looks anything like me.

[MHDShogun]

The female looks pretty sweet..male looks kinda dull.

And...people will help you out more if they think your a female irl
BUTTSECKS PLZ

=( I think the male sorc looks badass, the armor is awesome, cool metal helm, shoulders, belt, bracers, boots, with layered pattern robe that looks all rune-inscribed n' such. I like armor, the more armor the cooler imo (I mean from the looks of a character, not necessarily the armor rating of an item, doesn't mean I only play tanks), so I prefer the fact that the male sorc has cool full body armor, while the female is a bit more like the witch elf in the armor department. I'm also a guy and play male characters, just the way I am, I don't hold it against other guys when they play females.

[dynamo112]

Ive played female toons in the past two MMO's ive played so most likely a female. (male IRL)

The female looks pretty sweet..male looks kinda dull.

And...people will help you out more if they think your a female irl
BUTTSECKS PLZ


LOL

[Tears of Blood]

Female. I did consider choosing a Sorcerer, because of their position - they are in deep trouble whoever wins the war and only "safe" as long as the war goes on, so they should be interesting to RP - but I am going to choose a Sorceress. At least I am at the moment. Emo loses to beauty.

[Velryn]

It's weird like, I just don't like playing female characters. It's probably because I'm 13 years old so my self image as a male still out grows my love for the female body. But it's like I try to model my characters after me, and I always want to be a badass, and it's just sort of hard to do that with a female. I never roll female characters, not because I have a problem with playing them, but more because I just pick male because I want my character to be like myself. I also have nothing against the dudes that always play female, I just can't see myself doing it. The only thing that gets me angry is those people that say "Oh I dun wana look at a dudez wen I play lolz and if u do play a dude taht meanz ur rofl" because first off I look at my character's back when I play. If you always find yourself staring at your characters then you are , and just acting really homophobic (not that i have anything against homosexuals or anything). However I mostly encountered that with people playing WoW (big surprise that) and not the more mature player base here.

[Zunjin]

Heh, these discussions about "males playing females" pops up way too often. I find it to be a dead horse.

Aslong as there is mmo's it will be discussed.

[Dukha]

Aslong as there is mmo's it will be discussed.
Amen.

Besides, it's not like it is settled in any way. There must be tons of people that havent read and understood Estebars great sig yet that really need to vent their emotions on this topic. I say let em, it's not healthy keeping that sorta thing all walled up :wink:

EDIT:
For those that don't know, here's Estebars current sig. A work of pure genius if you ask me :mrgreen:

It fascinates me how people can feel perfectly fine playing a bloodthirsty, sadistic, xenophobic pro-slavery mass-murderer or an ape-like green fungus with no genitals but they find the concept of playing a *gasp* female unthinkable because it might reflect badly on them as a player.

[dynamo112]

So does that make me a cross dresser for playing Princess Kitana in Mortal Kombat just cus I liked her bloody fatalities?

Does it make me a cross dresser because I played Tomb Raider?

Does it make me a cross dresser because I played Chun Li?

Does it make me a cross dresser because I played Orchid in Killer Instict because one of her finishing moves was her tearing off her shirt and flaunting her BEWBIES at the t.v. screen?

Samus is displeased with all of you!

Dont say it's different than playing a female avatar in a MMO where people role play. The fact is people have played the opposite sex in a video game at sometime in there life. And dont try to play that pixels argument...PIXELS CAN BE HAWT TO http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKnfjpfywTM&NR=1 drooooool

And in all seriousness..if it discomforts you to play a female toon in an MMO that might also mean your insecure about your sexuality.

[Dukha]

Hah, just noticed that according to the poll the female avatars are in the lead ;)

[Andaline]

Its cosh we are teh sexh and you know it.

[MHDShogun]

Hah, just noticed that according to the poll the female avatars are in the lead ;)

Well, this is a male sorcerer vs female sorceress poll, not a general one, and from what I have seen in the comments, a lot of guys are being female because male sorcerers don't previously exist lore-wise. That's fine w/ me, I'm ok with being in the minority for once because of the gender I play. Just clearing that up bc i wasn't sure if you realized that it wasn't overall (you probably did, sorry, now I look like a =/).

[Dukha]

No worries mate and for the record I did think about wether or not I should point that out (the just sorceror/ess thing). I decided not to ;)

[Squizz]

I would definately go for a sorceress because:

a. More sound lore
b. Better cosmeticaly
c. If I have to stare at my characters all day I'd rather have it look good.

I have never been mistaken for a woman when playing female characters or been discriminated against. Remember the golden rule of mmo's, all players are men unless proven otherwise :-P

[Andre-Duvalle]

I prefer to play what my actual gender is so Id play a male sorc, besides IIRC Male sorcs aren't that much of a lorebreak -

*SPLOICERS!*... I mean *SPOILER*

One of Malus Darkblades half-brothers Urial is a sorcerer, he was offered to the temple of Khaine and survived but rather than be trained as an assassin he was trained as an acolyte, dunno if this is more suited to the DoC however he is refered to by Malus as a legal sorcerer

[Lucien]

Male since I dont wanna get approached by sex deparved retards with the typical a/s/l or lets cyber BS


Amen there. Thats the main reason I don't play female toons. Plus like others have said my character is an extension of me and my personality. So while I can be cruel and just downright evil at times...and have a strange affinity for blowing people into tiny little bits (especially elves) playing feminine just isn't me..especially with all the horny little freaks in games like these.

[Dukha]

Hmm, never did have much of a problem with that sort of behaviour for some reason despite playing almost exclusively female toons in WoW for close to 3 years... maybe I was just lucky ;)
And the few I encountered I shot down pretty fast so they left me alone (by "shooting down" I mean telling em to f**k off basically".

EDIT: I am NOT advocating that people should play female toons even if they are male IRL. People should play any way they like as long as they don't interfere with anyone elses enjoyment of whatever it is that is being played. At least thats my view.

[Farore]

all players are men unless proven otherwise :-P

People still need to be enlightened Squizz, and while I'm sure we all hold this sacred mmo-doctrine to heart, there's always that distant 'hope' that the person on the other end of that hot pixelated body, is not some fat sweaty 40+ y/o guy who gets a kick out of making young boys feel special. But even then, WHAT A PIXELATED BODY!

My main characters are always guys, why? because I identify with a male avatar better than I would a female one. Occasionally i'll make a female alt for a bit of variety, and I have no qualms with guys who play female avatars... If they're role playing a female that's where it gets a little hazy, ESPECIALLY, when they try to RP a female on vent, that's just creepy... HILARIOUS but creepy, or, just hilarious depending on how far they take the act.

Meh, the anonymity of the internet knows no bounds, go wild, imo.. just not too wild .. rofl

*edit* Oh, and remember.. ALL PLAYERS ARE MEN UNLESS PROVEN OTHERWISE THROUGH VENT, pictures do not count as evidence, unless they're holding a little plaque with their name on it, and even then it has to be a pretty unique name.

*double edit* Scratch that, pictures can be photoshopped, so they have to be given a stamp of approval by the female (if it is indeed a female), then sent via MAIL (not e-mail, real life paper, the stuff that comes from trees), to the other person, as well as scans of three different forms of identification and a birth certificate.

[Lucrece]

.... I don't quite understand why we discuss insecurity about sexuality when someone is uncomfortable with playing the other gender....

What the hell does sexuality have to do with any of it?

[Farore]

I've got an oral presentation on 'The Virtual Self' for Behavioural Studies coming up, I am so going to use this thread as a reference point when I discuss the reasons why guys play female avatars online. Btw, there are NO guys in my Behavioural studies class, except me and one other guy who looks like a girl. So it'll be interesting to see the rest of the girls reactions to this stuff.

Lucrece that is a fantastic question, and definitely one which I will be trying to answer in the presentation, ---> For some people it'll have nothing to do with it, for others who knows!

[pzykozis]

I'll be rolling a female sorceress depending on how they actually look ingame so far im not too impressed with their looks, but i'd still rather play them than a male because that's something i always seem to do.

The reason why i play a female toon is purely for my own idiotic ideals of subverting the stereotypes of society, plus... they just look good generally.

[Yirrath]

Saw a male sorcerer running around in one of the new vid's. 'Sorcerer Crafting & PvE'
The avatar looked pretty cool.

As an option, the class is great visually they both look pretty good in game. Don't go off just what you've seen in the concept art.

[Lucrece]

I've got an oral presentation on 'The Virtual Self' for Behavioural Studies coming up, I am so going to use this thread as a reference point when I discuss the reasons why guys play female avatars online. Btw, there are NO guys in my Behavioural studies class, except me and one other guy who looks like a girl. So it'll be interesting to see the rest of the girls reactions to this stuff.

Lucrece that is a fantastic question, and definitely one which I will be trying to answer in the presentation, ---> For some people it'll have nothing to do with it, for others who knows!


Oh, it's quite easy, actually; I just get tired of having to knock some sense to every other ignoramus that comes along.

It's all a matter of people's flawed assumption of transgenderism, virtual or physical, having to do anything with sexual orientation. After all, most people still hold the preposterous notion that men and women are female/male souls (respectively) trapped in the wrong body, wanting to be the other sex. It just irritates me how people confuse transgenderism with sexual orientation in an age where there is plenty of information to properly educate oneself on the topic.

Anyways, good luck on your presentation; show them what an interesting presentation actually is ;).

[Mikhail87]

It look a like a man.

[Lucrece]

It look a like a man.

Ms. Swan!!!!!!~~~~~

Monkey in the bush ~_~.

[Agronack]

Dunno what Im gonna do. I kinda like the Male armour, but theyre not in the lore so I may have to stick with it.

[Are'el]

Female, of course! But trying to look at it from an unbiased position, I'd say the Sorceress is a better choice overall because she has a stronger presence in the lore, and her aesthetics (clothing included) just look better than the Sorcerer's.

I find some comments here amusing. Someone said they wouldn't be comfortable roleplaying a woman because they "probably couldn't do it right." That's kind of laughable. You put a woman with a love of video games in front of a keyboard, and she'll pretty much act like most men. Except maybe fewer fart jokes. News flash to any internet geeks! Women aren't mysterious, and really not that different. Most women that choose to play these types of games love to gank noobs (not newbs) and get phat lewt, just as much as men. :wink: Not all girls go "tee hee" and play MMOs to play dress-up.

I've got an oral presentation on 'The Virtual Self' for Behavioural Studies coming up, I am so going to use this thread as a reference point when I discuss the reasons why guys play female avatars online. Btw, there are NO guys in my Behavioural studies class, except me and one other guy who looks like a girl. So it'll be interesting to see the rest of the girls reactions to this stuff.

Lucrece that is a fantastic question, and definitely one which I will be trying to answer in the presentation, ---> For some people it'll have nothing to do with it, for others who knows!
Ah, Behavioral Studies. I remember that class. I actually spent nearly 3 years in college trying to become a psychologist (with a focus on relationships and sex). I eventually quit when I realized that not only did I find classroom work too tedious, I also have no real interest in helping people! :eek: But at least all that knowledge has given me a broader perspective.

Why do men play women? Many reasons, most already brought up here:

1. Something to look at. Most common response, and usually the most true. If a man has to look at something for hundreds of hours, they'd like it to be sexy.

2. Non-association. Men do not "relate" to their avatar as often as women do. To many men, it is not a representation of them, or an extention. It is just an object in the game, a tool.

3. Roleplaying. Men comfortable in their masculinity see no difference in playing an Orcish warmonger, and a female knight. It's all fiction, and a chance to try something new.

4. "Chivalry." Nope, it isn't dead. Having played both genders over the years, I've noticed that other players are generally nicer to female toons. They get invited to groups more often, they aren't snapped at for every little mistake, they get loot with less in-fighting about the rolls. So some men have come to see playing a woman is like playing on "easy mode." (whether that's true or not).

5. Transgender/cross-dressing. It would be remiss not to include that some men really do feel more comfortable playing as a woman. Some may even find avatars in a video game as a "safe" way to explore those feelings. Granted, this is probably one of the lowest percentage reasons for cross-gender playing.

6. Amusement. Some men enjoy playing with other people's heads and watching their reactions. They like freaking out borderline homophobes by declaring their true gender after the other person has flirted with them. They like the reactions in Voice Chat after months of misconception. And some even like posting screenshots of "cyboring" text from where they played along. I have to admit, I really don't understand the men in this category.

There are a couple of others, but I don't remember them off the top of my head. Most of it is just common sense.

Edit: Just remembered another one.
7. Aesthetics. Beyond "attractiveness," there is overall appearance on ingame avatars. And really, most games put more effort and care into creating the female toons and their armor, than they do the males. Body concepts are more aestheticly pleasing. I know a lot of people that were put off by the overly muscular look of the men in WoW. There's also more variation in clothing appearance for females, thought to be fair most of that variation is just about exposing the midriff (which makes no sense in war games).

[Deathlok]

6. Amusement. Some men enjoy playing with other people's heads and watching their reactions. They like freaking out borderline homophobes by declaring their true gender after the other person has flirted with them. They like the reactions in Voice Chat after months of misconception. And some even like posting screenshots of "cyboring" text from where they played along. I have to admit, I really don't understand the men in this category.
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You know me so well :)

Only kidding, butI admit I have gone down this route after having played a female Mesmer in Guild Wars. My name was "The Ex Wife" and some poor soul spilled his guts out to me about how he wished I was his ex wife because she was such a and I was "hot" and "understanding". Granted, he was probably only about 13 but it still stumps me as to how people will 'flirt' with a female toon.

[Smarticus]

I find some comments here amusing. Someone said they wouldn't be comfortable roleplaying a woman because they "probably couldn't do it right."

"Why, roleplaying a female is easy--just rp a male, and take away reason and accountability." -Jack Nicholson (j/k) :P

Seriously though, as a guy, I would rather play a female character than an effeminate looking male one. I like my male characters to be "Conan the Barbarian" as opposed to "Final Fantasy." And I confess I would make a female alt because it looks sexy. I mean, come on, who doesn't like a hot fantasy girl with a sword? Call me chauvanist or sexist; it's just my style. In an MMO, I think about what would make the most interesting charatcer; I don't think of what people will think of me personally (because they won't).

[Ergo]

You know me so well :)

Only kidding, butI admit I have gone down this route after having played a female Mesmer in Guild Wars. My name was "The Ex Wife" and some poor soul spilled his guts out to me about how he wished I was his ex wife because she was such a and I was "hot" and "understanding". Granted, he was probably only about 13 but it still stumps me as to how people will 'flirt' with a female toon.

People seem to think this is an extension of their real life, plus there are the naive/ignorant ones who think no-one on the internet lies.

Like i said before i really don't see myself as the character, it is something which i use to gain access to the virtual world.

EDIT: I treat everyone the same, whether they are playing a male/female char and are male/female irl, but i must say irl females tend to be more helpful and are nicer to talk to generally. At least that is my take on gaming with females in the 4-5 MMOs that i have played.

[CaptainAwesome]

I always prefer male nuke type damage dealers If I ever wanted to role one be it wizards, black mages or sorcerers

[DarksideBQ]

I would definitely play female to keep with the more original lore.