The only thing making me nervous about Slayers: Visual Variety

[TMaples]

Now I'm no Warhammer lore buff, but isn't it true that every dwarf slayer has orange hair, a mohawk, and some sort of beard? Now of course the beard can change, but a mohawk is a mohawk and orange is orange. So is the only thing customizable for the slayers going to be their face, scars, and beard? I guess tattoos too, but the face everyone with have orange hair and a mohawk makes me feel like all the slayers will look the same. What do you think?

[Haggis]

Now I'm no Warhammer lore buff, but isn't it true that every dwarf slayer has orange hair, a mohawk, and some sort of beard? Now of course the beard can change, but a mohawk is a mohawk and orange is orange. So is the only thing customizable for the slayers going to be their face, scars, and beard? I guess tattoos too, but the face everyone with have orange hair and a mohawk makes me feel like all the slayers will look the same. What do you think?

I'm not. There at least 3 shades of slayer hair already in game. a very light yellow orange, a bright orange red, and Gortrex's dusty orange. And I don't see why they can't bend lore a bit. The whole point is to make the slayer stand out after all.

And I'm sure they can come up with pleanty of crest options other then the basic mohawk. Just look at all the bright wizard flame hair and bald WP options. Also Snorri Nosebiter uses Colored stakes driven into his skull instead of any hair.

[Krazilak Tzeentalon]

To be fair, Snorri is borderline insane and retarded.

[Varking]

Now I'm no Warhammer lore buff, but isn't it true that every dwarf slayer has orange hair, a mohawk, and some sort of beard? Now of course the beard can change, but a mohawk is a mohawk and orange is orange. So is the only thing customizable for the slayers going to be their face, scars, and beard? I guess tattoos too, but the face everyone with have orange hair and a mohawk makes me feel like all the slayers will look the same. What do you think?
To be honest, just about every Rune Priest and Ironbreaker in this game looks alike as well. Same for the Engineers. The only noticeable differences to me for the most part are the set helmets.

[Angthar]

hope they give slayers some sort of harness for armour because i like the way my character progresses visually, and if i only get fancier tatoo's and jewellry, then i'll be disappointed.

[GreatBeard]

To be fair, Snorri is borderline insane and retarded.

Well when your purpose in life is to kill yourself in battle, those traits arent really much of a hinderance.

And I'm not too worried about this. I think they could probably get away with various shades from light orange to bright red, and theres plenty of variety with mohawks, from spiky versions to bigger or shorter etc etc. And depending on how they do armor and tattoos theres a lot of variety there, and also its possible that slayers could have more prominent piercing/jewelry options, the current ones are very hard to see.

Besides, when was the last time you could honestly tell 2 different black orcs apart?

[Kaikai]

bright wizards are ment to have red hair, but they dont all have it, something i appreciate.
just for the hell of it, my first slayer will have black hair, why? because when i was a kid, i painted my set of talisman minis, and the dwarf slayer got black hair.

i'd say they will offer alot of variety, all the beards, a few of the existing hair styles plus bald, close shaven with a rune in the back and a few other ones.
piercings probably who i dont care too much about that.

[Haggis]

To be fair, Snorri is borderline insane and retarded.

And that's why we love him!

[Gretha]

bright wizards are ment to have red hair, but they dont all have it, something i appreciate.
just for the hell of it, my first slayer will have black hair, why? because when i was a kid, i painted my set of talisman minis, and the dwarf slayer got black hair.

i'd say they will offer alot of variety, all the beards, a few of the existing hair styles plus bald, close shaven with a rune in the back and a few other ones.
piercings probably who i dont care too much about that.

Right, buts thats the difference.
The wind of magic effects the Wizards physical, so they tenderer to
end up with a hair stly the reminds in flames on form and shape.
That dosn't mean that they can't keep a normal hearstyle in a more normal colour.

I'm pretty sure they will come up with quit a few "ridiculous shaved hair styls"
as they did for for the WP and the WE.
But the "dye their remaining hair orange like Grimnir did" part of the oath
seems to limit it to all shades of orange.

[Kurast]

All sorts of new shaved beard designs and talismans / tattoos can also be used to create more unique looks for slayers. As well as belts, weapons, chains ext. Its not like you see that much difference in overall look between most of the same career after a point. Different original features, and armor coloring. As long as they give a tattoo or scar or something coloring system to have variations I'm sure all will be fine. Its worth the time to go hunt down the Slayer npc's in game and take a look at them to get an idea of what they might look like if we do indeed get them. There are 3 to 4 different variations of tattoos and scars from what I've seen so far.

I hope they get some chain axes .... can't beat chain axes!

Sincerely, Kurast

[Stuntie]

Given the variety of Mohawks you se in the Punk and related scenes I doubt they will run out hairstyles to pick from.


Also concept art posted on these forums has shown how you can use items such as tatttos, neck torcs, belts, bracers and other bits of jewelery to give varity and level gear to slayers.

[Rauko]

do a google images

Mohawk
Tattoos

(might give nsfw results)

And yes some of those people are as crazy as a slayer.

[Disease]

hope they give slayers some sort of harness for armour because i like the way my character progresses visually, and if i only get fancier tatoo's and jewellry, then i'll be disappointed.
If they do that then I'll be disappointed. Slayers are naked, tattooed freaks and that's what I want to play. Rain crazy mayhem down upon my enemies while wearing nothing more then pants and two huge, or one extremely oversized, axes. ;)

[Kaikai]

Right, buts thats the difference.
The wind of magic effects the Wizards physical, so they tenderer to
end up with a hair stly the reminds in flames on form and shape.
That dosn't mean that they can't keep a normal hearstyle in a more normal colour.

I'm pretty sure they will come up with quit a few "ridiculous shaved hair styls"
as they did for for the WP and the WE.
But the "dye their remaining hair orange like Grimnir did" part of the oath
seems to limit it to all shades of orange.

yes yes, because we all know there are no male dark elf sorcerers in warhammer online.. ;)
they wont limit the slayers to just red hair i feel, if they do i wont be upset, but i do hope to have my first slayer with black hair.

[Drongol]

Slayers are very likely going to be limited to only orange-red hair, and that's a good thing. Doing otherwise would break with the background quite a bit.

Male Sorcerors for DE? It's in the background several times. Yes, Malekith has made it a capital offense, but they still exist and certain Druchii forces use them. Go figure--if you base a society around murder, mayhem, and basically lawlessness, people don't necessarily listen to you all the time. Not even your own mother, it seems. ;)

Slayers with hair colors other than orange-red? Nope, not a single mention of it anywhere. I will point out, however, that there are plenty of "crests" used by the models in WHFB that are not mohawks and would allow for at least some variety, but a Slayer pretty much is a Slayer pretty much is a Slayer. They're all going to look pretty gosh-darned similar. Just like everyone else does, as a matter of fact.

Drongol

[The Bard]

I'd like to pipe in and say that I am a big fan of the yellow-haired slayers that you see in the game occasionaly and are even pictured in the Dwarf army book and in the miniature pantic book GW put out. They look flash and I think they're very striking.

[Warmaster tibs]

I wonder if slayers can have white/grey hair. I know its highly unlikely that any slayer will live long enough to even ever get white/grey hair, but would it be acceptable? Or would they just dye it again.

[Gobbie]

I wonder if slayers can have white/grey hair. I know its highly unlikely that any slayer will live long enough to even ever get white/grey hair, but would it be acceptable? Or would they just dye it again.

I would think they would just dye it again - part of being a Slayer is there orangey Mohawk and beard.


Now I can see them having a sorta of "faded" orange - for those who want to look like an older dwarf.

[Grayle]

To be honest, just about every Rune Priest and Ironbreaker in this game looks alike as well. Same for the Engineers. The only noticeable differences to me for the most part are the set helmets.
Yeah, this. Every char looks exactly the same anyway. So what if Slayers look alike as well.

[ShadyVillian]

There are quite a few style of mohawks so i wouldnt worry over that.
I hope they make it only orange hair/ different shades of orange or
suggestion
you start off with no orange hair then you follow the story line and have to dye it. it would be kinda interesting.

[Boondocksaint]

A Slayer with liberty spikes would be ill.

[Kaikai]

i hope they offer a wide variety of colors of hair, it would be silly to restrict players to just two or three shades of color, sure MOST players will be bright red, but some may wish for something else.

[Mazari]

i hope they offer a wide variety of colors of hair, it would be silly to restrict players to just two or three shades of color, sure MOST players will be bright red, but some may wish for something else.

NEVA! Orange and all shade sof it no other:P if you dont want it dont play slayer, i myself would hate to see black white haired slayers running around

[Fop]

Now I'm no Warhammer lore buff, but isn't it true that every dwarf slayer has orange hair, a mohawk, and some sort of beard? Now of course the beard can change, but a mohawk is a mohawk and orange is orange. So is the only thing customizable for the slayers going to be their face, scars, and beard? I guess tattoos too, but the face everyone with have orange hair and a mohawk makes me feel like all the slayers will look the same. What do you think?

Well there's plenty of ways to make mohawks look different, from basic size and shape/length to even having multiple mohawks (double or triple crested) or something like Mr T. :)

Plus the colours will undoubtedly go from bright orange to deep orange to red to scarlet and maybe on the edge of pink. :mrgreen:


Really the only problem is cutting down the numerous solutions, just like for other Slayer visuals.

[versuvius]

To be fair, Snorri is borderline insane and retarded.

Snorri is probably my favourite character from the books. seconded by Thanquol. And i concur, though the sheer retarded insanity he exhibits makes him all the more awesome.

[Lauren Love]

In the case that female slayers are implemented, I better not get the same bra over and over again. I'd at least like a metal bra at some point.

[Zaagazug]

I mostly wonder how large and inscribed the nose ring will be from the City Invader armour set :p

[Balgin]

Now I'm no Warhammer lore buff, but isn't it true that every dwarf slayer has orange hair, a mohawk, and some sort of beard? Now of course the beard can change, but a mohawk is a mohawk and orange is orange. So is the only thing customizable for the slayers going to be their face, scars, and beard? I guess tattoos too, but the face everyone with have orange hair and a mohawk makes me feel like all the slayers will look the same. What do you think?

Back in the 80's trollalsyers dyed their hair red (and didn't have to dye their beards too). In the 90's there were some pictures of trollslayers with very bright "red" hair that was basicaly orange and then sometime in the mid to late 90's someone official decided that all the slayers should dye their hair and beards orange to look really naff and chavvy.

I suppose they might be able to manage 3 or 4 different (almost identical) hairstyles and 4 or 5 shades of orange/red for the hair.

Has anyone considered the possibilioty that scalp tattooes might be part of the hair model so you could get some variety that way?

Slayers with hair colors other than orange-red? Nope, not a single mention of it anywhere. I will point out, however, that there are plenty of "crests" used by the models in WHFB that are not mohawks and would allow for at least some variety, but a Slayer pretty much is a Slayer pretty much is a Slayer. They're all going to look pretty gosh-darned similar. Just like everyone else does, as a matter of fact.

The original Gotrek colour picture used on the cover of Red Thirst and on the cover of Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay (1st edition) had him with orange/red hair, stubble on both sides, a white beard and a mail jerkin over a studded leather jack. Other painted examples from White Dwarf in the late 80's and early 90's (Marauder MIniatures dwarf trollslayer range adverts nmostly) feature trollslayers with their hair dyed bright shades of red but about 40% of them retain their original hair colour (greys, browns etc). One of the slayers (the peg legged one) even has black dreadlocks and his beard is black too.

It also included the naked slayer (who's beard was long enough to cover his modesty unless you looked from the back and squinted a bit).

I wonder if slayers can have white/grey hair. I know its highly unlikely that any slayer will live long enough to even ever get white/grey hair, but would it be acceptable? Or would they just dye it again.

Probably depend on how old he was when his disgraceful moment occured :p.

[Gobbie]

In the case that female slayers are implemented, I better not get the same bra over and over again. I'd at least like a metal bra at some point.


Metal Bra would fall under armor - if they add them expect - leather,cloth to cover up with ;)

[Lauren Love]

Metal Bra would fall under armor - if they add them expect - leather,cloth to cover up with ;)

Ah.

So i guess i'd just have the same felt bra 1-40.

Crap. :-\

[Varking]

Slayer wearing leather;
http://wfrp2.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/61w52arhfcl_aa240_.jpg

This Slayer mini just looks too cool to not link;
http://medias.jeuxonline.info/upload/war/gamesday2008/DSCN2450JPG.jpg

I know this is hard to see but he is wearing some sort of chain around his shoulders;
http://oz.games-workshop.com/games/warhammer/dwarfs/gaming/slayer_campaign/images/scenario3_1.jpg

Different kind of armbands, wristbands, boots, belt, and pants for the Slayer;
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v688/angoraflay/DwarfSlayer.jpg

Interesting figures;
http://www.miniaturewargaming.com/images/uploads/blacktreealldwarves.JPG

Claws?!!
http://www.miniaturewargaming.com/images/uploads/blacktreedwarf1.JPG

Shoulder armor likely to be in game;
http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/home/images/newsletter/2008_08/Dwarf_NPC_long_drong_slayer_pirate.jpg

Just a really BA Slayer;
http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/home/images/newsletter/2008_07/DW-garagrim-ironfist.jpg

Only the Slayer King wears this stuff but still
http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/home/images/newsletter/2008_08/Dwarf_NPC_SLAYERKING_UNGRIM.jpg

[Ronulf]

Besides, when was the last time you could honestly tell 2 different black orcs apart?

What he said.

[TMaples]

I guess you guys are right, I shouldn't be worrying about anything. Now I only have one more problem.

My slayer is gunna be using a gyrocopter mount.

bleh

[Aerthan]

I'm hoping for lots of different mohawk styles and lots of different tattoo styles. The hair color could just be a few different shades of orange/red, definitely no other colors and hopefully none of the "helmets" will hide the mohawk... :)

[Vegetta]

TBH

I think Visual Variety is lacking in all the classes

[Thunderhelm]

TBH

I think Visual Variety is lacking in all the classes

I agree on most cases, however the Gobbos have a huge visual range of faces and colours.

I think a lot of people are worried having seen the "thow them in anyway" Slayer Pirate NPCs in the Greenskins chapters. They look like a clone army and devoid of much individuality.

Suffice it to say that Mythic know players will not be happy with this lack of attention.

Once upon a time I wanted to see Slayers having tattoos as gear upgrades. Now I'm not so sure as it would allow a much wider scope for individuality at creation stage.

Gear upgrades could be treated in a more Gladitorial style, much like the Marauders.

Starting to look forward to the launch event, I may even take the time to grind it this time to open up the new classes...

[Balgin]

The one trollslayer option that would really make my day would be a Mr T hairstyle. I mean come on, you know someone out there must've pushed some greenstuff into shape to give their trollslayer the Mr T hairstyle (and maybe even painted him with darker skin too :p).

[Tharg]

Just a really BA Slayer;
http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/home/images/newsletter/2008_07/DW-garagrim-ironfist.jpg


Anyone else a little worried that the hair coming out of his belt buckles nose... isnt his beard?

[farbrorkudde]

I wonder if slayers can have white/grey hair. I know its highly unlikely that any slayer will live long enough to even ever get white/grey hair, but would it be acceptable? Or would they just dye it again.

One name: Malakai Makaisson

[Pagz]

One name: Malakai MakaissonTechnically, only his beard is white. He's also kinda a special case, being an engineer and all, I don't think he was really active in seeking his death making all those machines of his. He also trimmed his beard close to his chin, so it'd be illogical to keep dying his beard over and over again.

Viewing the Slayer comicon video and seeing their crest colours being different shades of orange, I think its safe to say they'll be distinguishable in the battlefield. I'm just excited when he said that there is a "shoulder armour slot" that has a troll head on its shoulder!

Heres hoping for a slanneshi head for a crouch guard!

[Tikuto]

Maybe the brightness and contrast of Slayer's hair color could be an option. Otherwise I am happy that they'll be male-only and lore-binding.

What bothers me greatly is Bright Wizards having similar mohawk hair styles.

[Zaagazug]

Anyone else a little worried that the hair coming out of his belt buckles nose... isnt his beard?

This struck me as well...must be painful if someone grabs the belt buckle and lifts you up :p