POLL: Slaydies??

[Doc Lumbago]

do you want female Slayers?
why? why not?

I think WAR is the ideal game for fem characters that don´t fall in the leatherclad assassin or robe-priestess cliche (look at the female Zealots) and they gave the Maraudesses a pass already so i´d be fair to have at least one female barbarian type class.

Lorewise there is no prob. There just isn´t any precedence of female Slayers...
So my opinion is
Hell YEAAAH!!!

[jonthebaker]

This was a tough vote for me. I know all the points for both sides, and what it came down to for me is that a female dwarfs life is more sacred than a males, and a slayer goes into battle for the purpose of losing their life.

I had to vote no.

[The Bard]

The Bard votes yes, for reasons discussed and enduring length by other people, his own ideas of what is awesome, and swayed heavily by the image that Goblin did up. It was epic that.

Do you mean to say that the mind of a Dwarf was swayed by the efforts of a goblin? How the mighty have fallen, The Bard. I'll get the hair dye and pig grease, shall I?

Hold it, your Grace. I beleive that the Goblin in question was sent mad by his visions and sketched an image of his greatest fears on the outer walls of the Dwarf Forums. I think it is an intensely positive sign for the Slayer Maidenhood that the very thought of a female slayer is enough to drive a Goblin to dispair.

[Gretha]

"no"
I don't believe that Mythic is capable to creating
a satisfying female-version of a slayer .

[Rvard]

No

Even if a dwarf female would be to commit a dire shame, it is up to her fellow clan males to take the burden in her stead, so that a precious dwarfen female life won't be wasted.

[The Vig]

I've gotta say yes, for shallow and obvious reasons. Karak-Eight-Peaks? More like Karak-TWO-Peaks eh? eh? know what I mean? wink wink nudge nudge say no more?

[The Bard]

say no more?

Hope springs eternal.

[Yavvy]

Put this (http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/Goblinz4real/Warhammer/femaleslayer.jpg) pic in your OP.

I'm for, ofc :D That's awesome.

[Haggis]

I'm of two minds.

In the end I say no. After all maruader and chosen are male only and frankly I would like to see a gender based class on order. After all almost half of destro has to be male (or female in the for WE) why not one for order.

[Ronulf]

No, no and NO!
High time we got a male only class.
Frankly the runepriest should be female only, to counter this.
What with them being the least dwarfy class as The Bard pointed out, ( http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/showthread.php?t=230455 )
even ranking below WL's in dwarfy-ness.

[Kaikai]

this is a very hard one for me..
on one side i love player customisation and i feel more is always better.

at the same time, if mythic added female orcs and gobbos i'd be mighty pissed.

i think i'd have to vote no on this.. simply because of the lack of beards.. slayers are ginger bearded mowhawked nutters, take away the beard and its a plump lady with a mohawk wearing psudo revealing leathers sort of how i see the female zealot.. it doesn't strike me as that tasteful.

its a moot point however, as if they have made slayers, then they have already decided on the course of gender.

add a female chosen and then i'd be more inclined to say yay to a female slayer

[Lauren Love]

Put this (http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/Goblinz4real/Warhammer/femaleslayer.jpg) pic in your OP.

I'm for, ofc :D That's awesome.

That looks awesome. Voted Yes.

[Seger]

No, male only please

[Gobbie]

I voted NO!

Haha I kid I took the time to do the female slayer picture - so I voted YES of course.

Using the "does'n't look" good excuses does not cut it. If I can come up with a half decent looking female slayer using only Photoshop and snip snaps of screen-shots.

[Lauren Love]

There's Chaos Females.

They look atrocious. Why NOT have Lady Slayers?

[Stuntie]

Yeah, why not.

If only to watch the Black Orcs hang their heads in shame at being whopped by a Lady.

[s5134195]

While we're add it, let's give dwarfs the option to shave their beards, Warrior Priests the option to grow hair, asur the option of looking good and female fungus for the greenskins!

I'll get busy fabricating the lore to make all of those viable!

I vote no for the sake of Warhammer. Why not? The exceptions prove the rule. If a female Slayer DID exist in the IP, it hardly justifies the multitude of them that would be created in-game.

[KatzenKratzen]

Female Slayer would be something like Male Sorceror. Do not want, tbh.

[Yavvy]

at the same time, if mythic added female orcs and gobbos i'd be mighty pissed. There's a pretty big difference. Once is plain impossible (there aren't male Orcs either), the other is afaik not discussed at all - while there's no female Slayers, there's nothing saying its utterly impossible for a woman to become a Slayer (though the treshold would obviously be higher).

They've done quite a lot of lore-bending already, its not really an argument. Its more down to the graphics, I think, and short fat women aren't generally considered pretty, despite Gobbies pic.

[Gobbie]

There's a pretty big difference. Once is plain impossible (there aren't male Orcs either), the other is afaik not discussed at all - while there's no female Slayers, there's nothing saying its utterly impossible for a woman to become a Slayer (though the treshold would obviously be higher).

They've done quite a lot of lore-bending already, its not really an argument. Its more down to the graphics, I think, and short fat women aren't generally considered pretty, despite Gobbies pic.

Just because they are not "pretty" looking doesn't mean they can't be cool looking. I believe the single reason there were no female chosen and marauders were due to the fact the modelers could n't figure how to make them "sexy". While I have no proof to this, I do feel that - them using the excuses of not making them look right is a load of baloney.

[Burntheheretic]

No, no and NO!
High time we got a male only class.
Frankly the runepriest should be female only, to counter this.
What with them being the least dwarfy class as The Bard pointed out, ( http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/showthread.php?t=230455 )
even ranking below WL's in dwarfy-ness.

Stuff that! I like my male runepriest. No to female slayers.

[Varking]

I voted no. Not because I think there shouldn't be, but it is just a preference. The question was "do you want" them, not "should there be any", so I voted no. Could there be female Slayers? Yes, there could. Would I care either way if they were in or out? Not at all.

[DancingMidget]

I voted no. Partially due to the lore. And just my personal taste. Female dwarves are just ugh to me....let alone half naked ones.

In all honesty tho.....a slayer is a slayer at the end of the day to me....male or female

[Cash Rules]

There's Chaos Females.

They look atrocious. Why NOT have Lady Slayers?

Chaos is a race, there's Dwarf females already aswell.

There is however no Chaos Chosen female, do it that way for the Slayer aswell!

[Krauser Hellbringer]

Apart from the obvious, female Dwarf hair is to them what Beards are to male dwarfs, their pride. To be a slayer requires to shave the sides of your hair and convert it into a Mohawk.

The Dwarf ambassador in the war of the beard (the one whose beard was shaved by the elves) was forced to become a slayer for having his beard shaved.

So to make a female dwarf chop up her hair is simply adding insult to injury.

They would be better off implementing Female Chosen and Marauder then it would more or less balance out the sides.

M/F Empire, Chaos, HE
Male only: Slayer (Dwarfs)
Female only: Witch Elf (DE)
No Gender/Dual Race: Greenskins

[Gaugamela]

No thanks.

Numerous arguments have swung for both sides and even some concepts.
Some lore arguments against:
1 - If a shame befell a Dwarf woman, her husband or clan would have to take the oath not her,
2 - The life of every female Dwarf is sacred and necessary. Even if the Woman wanted to become Slayers whose purpose is to die in battle the stoic personality of Dwarfs and especially Dwarf ladies, would make them live on and try to attone by another way than to foolishly loose their life in battle,
3 - The hair of a Dwarf woman is as important to them as the beard is for the men. They would NEVER shave it to make a mohawk, the defining characteristic of the Slayer,

Game reasons:
1 - Destruction has numerous gender restricted careers. Order has none. GIVE GENDER RESTRICTED CAREERS TO ORDER.
2 - The number of players that play female Dwarfs is marginal at best. Butchering the lore because of a marginal fraction of the population simply would make more people mad than happy.

[Gobbie]

Chaos is a race, there's Dwarf females already aswell.

There is however no Chaos Chosen female, do it that way for the Slayer aswell!


Didn't Felix and Gotrek take on a female Chosen in the first book?

[Cash Rules]

Didn't Felix and Gotrek take on a female Chosen in the first book?

No idea man, I don't read about Warhammer. I do however think that there should be a male only career as there is for Destruction and Slayers is the best choice tbh.

[PowerMagnet]

No thanks.

Numerous arguments have swung for both sides and even some concepts.
Some lore arguments against:
1 - If a shame befell a Dwarf woman, her husband or clan would have to take the oath not her,
2 - The life of every female Dwarf is sacred and necessary. Even if the Woman wanted to become Slayers whose purpose is to die in battle the stoic personality of Dwarfs and especially Dwarf ladies, would make them live on and try to attone by another way than to foolishly loose their life in battle,
3 - The hair of a Dwarf woman is as important to them as the beard is for the men. They would NEVER shave it to make a mohawk, the defining characteristic of the Slayer,

Game reasons:
1 - Destruction has numerous gender restricted careers. Order has none. GIVE GENDER RESTRICTED CAREERS TO ORDER.
2 - The number of players that play female Dwarfs is marginal at best. Butchering the lore because of a marginal fraction of the population simply would make more people mad than happy.

i would just like to point out that order have 3 gender restricted classes. archmage,shadow-warrior and sword master

[Krauser Hellbringer]

Didn't Felix and Gotrek take on a female Chosen in the first book?

Yes they did. A Chosen of Khorne no less.

i would just like to point out that order have 3 gender restricted classes. archmage,shadow-warrior and sword master

No they are not. the only gender restricted classes so far are

Male only: Chosen & Marauder
Female only: Witch Elf

[Gobbie]

Yes they did. A Chosen of Khorne no less.



No they are not. the only gender restricted classes so far are

Male only: Chosen & Marauder
Female only: Witch Elf

Then its settled - Make Female Chosens and Maruaders, leave Slayers as male only and thus balance vs gender specific classes har.

Ok If I had it my way there would be both jjust because. But I do respect lore so its a tough call.

[Efertin]

There's no lore on why Slayers couldn't be females, and this game already has two male only classes, six if you count greenskins, so female slayers, yes, please.

A female dwarf can break an oath just like a male one can, and then swear to the Slayer oath.

[Varking]

There's no lore on why Slayers couldn't be females, and this game already has two male only classes, six if you count greenskins, so female slayers, yes, please.

A female dwarf can break an oath just like a male one can, and then swear to the Slayer oath.
How many male only careers on Order?

[s5134195]

There's no lore on why Slayers couldn't be females, and this game already has two male only classes, six if you count greenskins, so female slayers, yes, please.

A female dwarf can break an oath just like a male one can, and then swear to the Slayer oath.

There is lore to support that, for the overwhelming majority, female dwarfs would never be presented the opportunity to break (or even make) a vow that would require them to bear such shame. The mantality of the male dwarfs to treat their women like the most valued treasure goes excessively far. In Daemonslayer, the remaining male dwarfs lock their women away so they will not confront the enemy. If the males were to be defeated, the women would face starvation as opposed to falling to the hands of the invaders. Though not specifically confronted in the lore, female Slayers strongly contradict an understood dwarfish mindset.

Remember that the dwarf ancestor god Grimnir himself is the prototype Slayer. All males who take this oath do it in honor of him, and in his spirit.

That said, it is a game. Do we stretch and skew the lore to encompass and please as many people as possible? I'm not sure. I'll respect the decision the devs make. :)

[Efertin]

How many male only careers on Order?

How many female only careers on order?

And to the above poster: Female dwarfs usually don't fight anyway, so the lore is probably butchered enough in that sense, so there's no logical restriction on female slayers tbh.

In WAR, there are quite a bit of female dwarfs who talk about their oaths, so in terms of WAR, it's not really impossible for a female dwarf to vow/break an oath, and every single Dwarf player character has sworn an oath to the High King to join the Oathbearers, anyway.

[Grayle]

Put this (http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k261/Goblinz4real/Warhammer/femaleslayer.jpg) pic in your OP.

I'm for, ofc :D That's awesome.
This is conclusive proof female slayers are a big nono. That looks ridiculous.

[Dwarflord]

Yes they did. A Chosen of Khorne no less.



No they are not. the only gender restricted classes so far are

Male only: Chosen & Marauder
Female only: Witch Elf

I'm sorry but all the elfs are female only.

[Varking]

How many female only careers on order?

And to the above poster: Female dwarfs usually don't fight anyway, so the lore is probably butchered enough in that sense, so there's no logical restriction on female slayers tbh.

In WAR, there are quite a bit of female dwarfs who talk about their oaths, so in terms of WAR, it's not really impossible for a female dwarf to vow/break an oath, and every single Dwarf player character has sworn an oath to the High King to join the Oathbearers, anyway.
You have proven my point. Order needs a gender restricted career to start catching up!

[Blundertoph Obslist]

You have proven my point. Order needs a gender restricted career to start catching up!


Order already has three.

[Aviator]

I voted yes. This game already has enough gender restricted classes.

[Grayle]

Order already has three.
What? No they don't.

All High Elf careers can be male or female.
All Empire careers can be male or female.
All Dwarf careers thus far can be male or female.

Well I can't be sure about High Elves of course. Male, female, all the same to my eyes.

[Gobbie]

This is conclusive proof female slayers are a big nono. That looks ridiculous.


Then I suppose males look bad to you also - since they look almost just like that.

[Grayle]

Yes, except for the huge beard and lack of bra, yes, they look almost just like that.

And hey, add a couple inches and a dress and she looks almost just like a High Elf! GOOD GOLLY MISS MOLLY I THINK WE'RE ON TO SOMETHING HERE!

[antenacht]

Didn't Felix and Gotrek take on a female Chosen in the first book?

yes they did, but she wasnt a chosen, she was a champion, Gotrek and Felix is an awesome read.

[Severin]

Umm I'd have to say no on that one. Not to be sexist but a Female Slayer would not be very threatening.

[ShadyVillian]

Yes they did. A Chosen of Khorne no less.



No they are not. the only gender restricted classes so far are

Male only: Chosen & Marauder
Female only: Witch Elf
Im pretty sure your missing the point.

Chosen.. ok could be female. Marauder i dont think so, arnt they called northmen?. A male witch elf...

Im kinda in the midle. if females are put in I dont care. but I have never heard of a female slayer.

[Lauren Love]

This is conclusive proof female slayers are a big nono. That looks ridiculous.

That looks awesome though.

As a female myself, i'd really enjoy playing a female dwarf instead of a drunk fat stubby guy.

[Varking]

That looks awesome though.

As a female myself, i'd really enjoy playing a female dwarf instead of a drunk fat stubby guy.
As I wrote earlier, it is just out of preference that I would like Slayers to be male only. I was answering the poll question in truth. The real question should have been "should there be female Slayers in game as well as male" and the answer for me should have been, yes. Nobody here is going to not play a Slayer because there is the option to be female. It is like the Male Sorc lore, if there is enough evidence to say there could be, they might as well be in to give those who want it the option.

[Lauren Love]

As I wrote earlier, it is just out of preference that I would like Slayers to be male only. I was answering the poll question in truth. The real question should have been "should there be female Slayers in game as well as male" and the answer for me should have been, yes. Nobody here is going to not play a Slayer because there is the option to be female. It is like the Male Sorc lore, if there is enough evidence to say there could be, they might as well be in to give those who want it the option.

Well that's great. I respect you for being open-minded, but I didn't quote you. ;)

[Gobbie]

Im pretty sure your missing the point.

Chosen.. ok could be female. Marauder i dont think so, arnt they called northmen?. A male witch elf...

Im kinda in the midle. if females are put in I dont care. but I have never heard of a female slayer.


Marauder a slightly made up classes to begin with so why not?

So by bases of "because I've never heard of it" thus it must not be there?

Here is the thing they already have female ironbreakers and engineers and runepriest, might as well just have female slayers also.

But that is my opinion - and sadly I'm pretty sure its going be male only. Just a gut feeling. Most the time my gut is correct. Har

[s5134195]

As a female myself, i'd really enjoy playing a female dwarf instead of a drunk fat stubby guy.

A drunk fat stubby lady? :P

[antenacht]

Im pretty sure your missing the point.

Chosen.. ok could be female. Marauder i dont think so, arnt they called northmen?. A male witch elf...

Im kinda in the midle. if females are put in I dont care. but I have never heard of a female slayer.

I dont think half of the people posting care about lore sadly, which is what makes this game so great. If you have Chosen females and Marauders and Male Witch Elves, and then suddenly have Green skin Male/Female since there asexual what would be the point?(but we didn't say anything about male orcs and witch elves though)so? thats what will happen eventually, they will butcher the lore and make it another WoW knock off, and we don't want that.
To those of you who say "Dwarf Females can be Slayers" find me the lore please.
To those who say "It doesn't look right to have a fat half naked slayer chick" looks do not matter.
To those of you who say "Order needs a gender restricted class" they don't just because we have some, doesn't mean everyone should have some. Our race has herpes, I thought yours might want them too.
I personally don't want them because it will throw off the whole story/lore yes it will, as I said above find me one piece of Lore that states there are Female Slayers, I think Gotrek would hack n slash them.

[s5134195]

And to the above poster: Female dwarfs usually don't fight anyway, so the lore is probably butchered enough in that sense, so there's no logical restriction on female slayers tbh.

In WAR, there are quite a bit of female dwarfs who talk about their oaths, so in terms of WAR, it's not really impossible for a female dwarf to vow/break an oath, and every single Dwarf player character has sworn an oath to the High King to join the Oathbearers, anyway.

In this matter I agree entirely, and I believe that for this reason precisely, female Slayers will be included. The game definitely differs from the lore, though I wouldn't use that to encourage more disparity.

[Balgin]

Well that's great. I respect you for being open-minded, but I didn't quote you. ;)

Varking's opinion's not far off mine (although I'd rather we had hammerers than slayers).

[Asschen]

NO. it won't work. Reason is this.

Female dwarves carry on the family name (The children of dwarfs belong to the same clan as their mother) and a dwarf doesn't shame his own honor, but the honor of his clan, therefore he becomes a slayer.

For a female dwarf to become a slayer would mean that the female dwarf would have to be a warrior. Therefore not a mother yet, seeing as how the females take care of the children. A female dwarf warrior without children that commits great shame upon her clan must become a slayer, thus seeking death, thus ending the bloodline on her end, a much greater shame than any she could ever commit.

[Gaugamela]

Im pretty sure your missing the point.

Chosen.. ok could be female. Marauder i dont think so, arnt they called northmen?. A male witch elf...

Im kinda in the midle. if females are put in I dont care. but I have never heard of a female slayer.

Chosen could be female, there are several cases of female champions. Marauder could be female, they are also Chaos worshippers and the case is similar to the Chosen.
Witch Elfs could have male counterparts: The Dark Elves Assassins are the male counterpart to the Witch Elves. They are a man only cult.
It would actually have made much more sense to have the Assassins in than the Sorcerors who are clandestine in the Dark Elven society (allthough they exist for sure).

As for the Slayers: It is completely unheard of the existance of any female Slayer. You have an entire city chock full of Slayers and all of them are male. If there would be female Slayers it would be in Karak Kadrin. But not a single one is mentioned. However, since they are not mentioned they can easily be placed in the game.

The fact is, like in most MMOs the lore is second to game balancing and what the devs want to put in the game. There's numerous lore breaking issues in WAR, and having the female Slayer wouldn't be the biggest.

This all boils down to a matter of opinion though and the arguments against and in favor are just a way of rationalizing that.
I am against because of several reasons, and as this poll shows roughly 2 thirds of the voters are against too. I hope Mythic sees this poll.

[The Bard]

I reckon both points of view on the issue are valid ones, and both are worh serious consideration and it would be wrong to dismiss either one out of hand.

I note that any in the against camp cite the fact that there is no presedent for females slayers in the lore as a primary reason. No female slayer has ever appeared in the game's setting. If GW published a story about them, I wonder how many minds would change on the issue? If mythic made slayers Male only and then, months later, GW released fluff about a group of female slayers. Whould Mythic be expected to backflip?
I'm not suggesting that will happen or even that it is very likely, i'm just thinking about weather Lore is the Law for some. The trap is that Warhammer's lore serves the wargame first, and is malleable. It can and does change itself to accomodate new ideas in the primary games that it exsists to serve, and it's fans have to be able to accept that as part of it's nature.

But back to the matter at hand,
I see the against camps viewpoint but i don't agree with it. I especially deny any of these alleged 'they would look ugly' claims, even though i'm not sure i've ever read one. Slayers always try to look shocking and unforgettable. Being ugly can be a part of that. I always vote for ugly options in games, it adds character.
I understand where you are all coming from with the lore and that there are no lady slayers in any official books and what have you, but... you have to remember that there is barely any female anythings mentioned.

The Warhammer setting as presented in WaR features female dwarfs litterally all over the place. The trick to stick to lore would have been to not have female dwarfs playable like Lord of the Rings. But they allowed them, and they are everywhere and I accept that. That's the version of the world we're in.

I think the key to my point of view is that if they released slayers as male only in the world that WaR presents with, then I'm not sure I could get fully behind it with all of these female warrior dwarfs charging about on the front lines.
With the sheer ammount of dwarf females presented in the game I don't think it would be beleivable if slayers were male-only.

My point of view applies only to Warhammer Online, as it is clearly apart from other versions of the game. I don't vote for vast numbers (ie. player style numbers) of them appearing in lore, but I wouldnt be agaisnt an isolated occurance of one or maybe two, and as we all know the occurance of one of anything is not licence to make that occurance the regular, right chaotic-good drow?

On the other hand, if Mythic can't get the look right for them, then I'm not going to be sore if female slayers do not appear. That was their reasoning for not having female Chosen and Marauders in, not becasue 'the shouldn't be female'. They tried it, remember. They said that they couldnt get the big, scary look they wanted for those careers and preserve the feminine aspects in any way that worked. Not to say that would be impossible, they just werent happy with the results they got and cut the idea loose. Fair enough says I. The reasoning behind inclusion and non-inclusion is a factor.

Either way, i'm not going to be bitter and for that, I am glad :)

[Gaugamela]

Either way, i'm not going to be bitter and for that, I am glad :)

Yeah! What's the point in being bitter about it?
In the end it is just a game and Order also needs a half naked female.

[Efrafa]

I voted yes 'cause I really don't give a . :)

[s5134195]

The Bard,

As I have come to expect, you make some very well rounded arguments. :) My concern, as you suggested, is that TT players will look back to the computer MMO Warhammer and use it as the grounds for lore changing. It is ultimately GW's prerogative to decide the matter, but from what we know, the issue stands quite clear. Again, the introduction into lore of one or even two female Slayers does not give any weight to allowing them in game, unless they are represented as npcs. [EDIT] Sorry, I mean the females created in the lore represented as npcs. [EDIT]

You use the many female dwarfs in the game right now as an example of skewed lore. I agree entirely, and my bubble of conception was popped early on in my in-game experience. I do not think, however, that misinterpretations of a fantasy world should lead to further allowances. To substantiate that point of view, I challenge any and all who read this to find me a female Slayer npc. The Slayers are already represented (quite nicely, imo) in the game, and that is how I hope it will remain.

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[The Bard]

You use the many female dwarfs in the game right now as an example of skewed lore.

I don't think there is anything inherently bad about skewed lore, there is some that I like and some that I don't. It's a part of Warhammer itself, really. What is important to understand, is that Warhammer, like a lot of fictional settings isn't set in concrete.
The warhammer world in the tabletop game is different to the one in WFRP which is different again to the one in Warhammer Quest and let's not even mention all the different novels.
The Warhammer World in the age of Reckoning has female Dwarfs, Runepriests, Disciples of Khaine, all those things. That is the lore for the setting as presented in this game.
Looking at the Warhammer world from the point of view of just one of it's games is like looking at just one of the winds of magic, it colours your view of the whole.

A fellow who only plays the tabletop game might balk at the idea of a Dwarf Witch Hunter while a fellow who plays WFRP will barely bat an eyelid.

The issue at hand with female slayers isn't 'would they fit into lore' becasue the lore is various degrees of different in every game. The real key is 'do they fit into the Age of Reckoning' and honestly I find it difficult to argue with their inclusion.

I want to marry Victoria Lamb.

[Kittimm]

I'd say yes. It must suck enough as it is, being female and being limited for classes unless you wanna go butch.
The lores means nothing to me, so I can't take it into consideration. We could have Shaman using Dwarfs on all fours as mounts, firing mounted machine guns and throwing pokeballs at whitelions and I actually would not much care.

Variety is the spice of life, let's see some Slaydies.

[Asschen]

The Bard makes an excellent point. Warhammer Online IS a different world from Warhammer TT eventhough they share so many similarities.

The trailer says it clearly: The moment you start up the game for the first time is 'The dawn of a new age, the age of reckoning' Seems to me that the new age shouldn't be the same as the old age. Hence the differences to WHTT.

maybe in this new age chaos sends an all out offensive with everything they've got, including women to join the fight, which was previously in alot of cases unheard of. and maybe the male force of the empire isn't sufficient to meet the numbers that chaos, because of this new rule can come up with, so they let the women join the fight aswel.

maybe, just maybe the slayers take an oath to give their life to the king over and over again until the greenskins are banished from the mountains (also: the only thing more glorious than death in battle is deaths in battle). as it has been said, slayer oath is a backseat oath. The oath to the king is way more important. Once the last greenskin is kicked out they may hold their oath fulfilled and seek an honorable death to fulfill the slayer oath.

[Ronulf]

The day they add female slayers to the game, chosen and marauding women and on top of that, MALE WITCH ELFS, better already be in the game.

If people dont see any reason not to put female slayers in the game, then maybe said people wouldnt mind us going all out WoW and having male and female versions of every single class in the game.

Hell, seeing as Malekith allowed male sorcerors to live and practice their arts, i see no reason not allow the odd eunuch to join a temple of khaine, and thus we got male WE's!

If anything I think they should add more gender specific careers.

[Yavvy]

The boy children taken at Death Night become Assassins (http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/home/images/newsletter/06_2008/modelsheet_de_assassin.jpg), so that would be the male version of WEs. Add them all! :)

[Fullmetalax]

There shouldn't be female slayer. Because, if the Dwarfs are dieing race then female would be the most valuable thing to the Dwarfs.

[Ronulf]

The boy children taken at Death Night become Assassins (http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/home/images/newsletter/06_2008/modelsheet_de_assassin.jpg), so that would be the male version of WEs. Add them all! :)

No, no, if they add female slayers i think it would be more fitting with an elf eunuch in a thong, running around stabbing people with knives. Seeing as an assassin would actually fit into the lore. Whereas "slaydies" are even more far fetched than sorcerors.
If they are making a farce of this game, then do it properly i say.

[Ithan]

No

Even if a dwarf female would be to commit a dire shame, it is up to her fellow clan males to take the burden in her stead, so that a precious dwarfen female life won't be wasted.

This.

Plus female slayers = fugly.

[NCSlayer]

The boy children taken at Death Night become Assassins (http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/home/images/newsletter/06_2008/modelsheet_de_assassin.jpg), so that would be the male version of WEs. Add them all! :)

Hate to say it but I would roll that over an Slayer rofl... that's some nice artwork. Meh what am I saying Slayer = best :P.

[Darlos]

As I said, I won't roll a female Slayer but I see no reason not to have them.

There are no female Ironbreakers.
There are no female Runesmiths (Priests)
There are no female Engineers.
There are no female Hammerers.

[Asschen]

This.

Plus female slayers = fugly.

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/2565/fatgothkidij5.jpg
Bring in the Mythic Mystery package and we're all set!

... even has a beard :D

[gotrekthabrute]

do you want female Slayers?
why? why not?

I think WAR is the ideal game for fem characters that don´t fall in the leatherclad assassin or robe-priestess cliche (look at the female Zealots) and they gave the Maraudesses a pass already so i´d be fair to have at least one female barbarian type class.

Lorewise there is no prob. There just isn´t any precedence of female Slayers...
So my opinion is
Hell YEAAAH!!!

obvioulsy you know nothing of dwarven lore.

[grezer]

I've seen female slayers in-game I think... in kadrin valley, at a beer bar there somewhere to the north I recon... there are a bounch of dwarfs WITH armor (chainmail etc) and a female dwarf there says "I became a slayer because... *something*"

If I remember correctly..

[Tharg]

While we're add it, let's give dwarfs the option to shave their beards

For a short while in beta dwarfs COULD go beardless for some face options :P must admit i actually liked the beardless dwarf (there is a face underneath them you know :P ) had a real knarled look to them.

Yes to Slaydies.

[Ronulf]

I'm getting a bit worried about what's going to be revealed today...
So many actually voting YES on this poll, it's disturbing.
I just hope mythic will go with NO.
I dont think i could take this game seriously ever again if "Slaydies" are made playable...

[Corm]

I voted no because of Lore reasons being a big Warhammer fanboy with a particular love of Dwarfs I just cant accept Female Slayers.

However I also cant accept Female Rune Priests, Engineers or Iron Breakers either and would think on balance since we already have females there we may as well have female slayers it wouldnt IMHO materially change the overall feel of a game that already majorly bends accepted GW WHF lore.

I can think of handfull of occasions only where female dwarfs are referenced as being priests of some description (one of the Gotrek books, picture in one of the WHFB army lists (4th ed?), couple of Ref and art in WHFRPG 1st & 2nd Editions).

I can think of only a couple of minor refferences to dwarf female warriors too. Combat Cards Emelda Magnussdotter and the miniture produced between 87 - 89 that the combat cards mini was take from, one picture in WHFB Dwarf army list (4th ed?) and one other mini from the 87 - 89 molds that has full chain mail, 2 hand hammer and a full faced helm but also has obvious breasts. I sold both of those on Ebay last year otherwise I wouldnt have rembered them either.

I dont think I have ever heard of or seen evidence of a Dwarven female Engineer.

There may be other occasions from the massive amount of lore and merchandise GW/Citadel has produced over the years but beyond what I mentioned I cant personally think of any. That doesnt mean im not saying its there.

There was a Dwarven female cook model, barmaid model and I think although dont quote me a Blood Bowl 3rd Edition Cheerleader model. Although there was also a female orc cheerleader...

[Celestina]

Yes.

All you idiots whined and whined for Slayers over Hammerers and look what you've done. Potentially ruined the game for 300+ customers. I suggest they make the Slayer have a female option or reintroduce the Hammerer. If not, there will be a lawsuit definitely.

[Telectu]

Yes.

All you idiots whined and whined for Slayers over Hammerers and look what you've done. Potentially ruined the game for 300+ customers. I suggest they make the Slayer have a female option or reintroduce the Hammerer. If not, there will be a lawsuit definitely.
I'll lawsuit for calling us idiots. And yeah, don't get me started on "They were 300 men, against a million!"

[Zakat]

I suggest they make the Slayer have a female option or reintroduce the Hammerer. If not, there will be a lawsuit definitely.

I'd be interested in seeing a lawyer write up the appropriate papers for such a lawsuit. There's really no case to be had for a lawsuit there. If it were possible, than it would have already happened because if you haven't noticed, half the Destruction classes are male only, with one female only.

Slayers in WAR are male Only. Sorry if you all wanted Female Slayers.

[Colloquial]

I voted yes, in order to further the cause of butchering lore.

[Asschen]

I'd be interested in seeing a lawyer write up the appropriate papers for such a lawsuit. There's really no case to be had for a lawsuit there. If it were possible, than it would have already happened because if you haven't noticed, half the Destruction classes are male only, with one female only.

Slayers in WAR are male Only. Sorry if you all wanted Female Slayers.

I actually agree with you on the non slaydies issue but to tell you the truth, Lore holds nothing against female slayers. There just hasn't been any record of a female slayer, ever. But that doesn't mean by default that it's impossible, just unheard of.

Hey, wasn't this game the dawning of a new age? well... new age brings new ideas.. including the possibility of female slayers.

[Captbigbeard]

Yes.

All you idiots whined and whined for Slayers over Hammerers and look what you've done. Potentially ruined the game for 300+ customers. I suggest they make the Slayer have a female option or reintroduce the Hammerer. If not, there will be a lawsuit definitely.

You do realise one of the major reasons Hammerers were removed because NO one in beta really liked them (well maybe one or two) but they had a bunch of problems... not to mention being unpopular...

Something tells me it wasn't a bunch of geeks on a forum who changed the dev's minds.