swordmasters appearance

[thelastlogan]

the current swordmasters look good, but they don't look that much like swordmasters imo.
i really think they could make them look more attractive.

here are swordmasters from other warhammer games.
http://www.strategyinformer.com/pc/warhammermarkofchaos/screenshot-viewer.html?id=132343

here are the current WAR swordmaster.
http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/media/images/screenshots/SST_0807_18.jpg
http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/media/images/conceptArt/CnAT100710.jpg

i think the swordmasters from the other game look more like the TT swordmaster (http://us.games-workshop.com/games/warhammer/highelves/catalog/Sword_Masters.htm)

i know there is a few things they could do to make them more attractive, so what do you guys think do you like them the way they are, or should they try and improve?

[ChosenOne]

I too would like to see them a little more heavily armored. The front of their...garb, is definately cloth looking. Thats a pretty important area to protect.

[Malal]

ER i dunno i think they look quite poncy looking, er..i mean High Elf looking its sort of appropriate.
Mayb thats a level 1 sword master and the lvl40 one will look more like the models?
mayb a bit more like
http://www.war-resource.com/images/conceptart/520538_20080823_screen022.jpg
after all that was alpha footage no?

[thelastlogan]

heh, yeah im sure there is armor under the cloth, but it would be nice if they put a sort of slit that would open when you walked and did diffrent motions concerning the legs, not to mention getting onto the mount, that would reveal the armor underneath.

sort of like this http://img88.imageshack.us/my.php?image=elf101gd5.png

[thelastlogan]

ER i dunno i think they look quite poncy looking, er..i mean High Elf looking its sort of appropriate.
Mayb thats a level 1 sword master and the lvl40 one will look more like the models?
mayb a bit more like
http://www.war-resource.com/images/conceptart/520538_20080823_screen022.jpg
after all that was alpha footage no?

the link shows nothing.

[Dagoth]

I don´t know what you are talking about, to me Mythic´s Swordmaster is a perfect adaptation, it´s almost identical to the TT one. Also, miniatures cannot wear different armor or equipment so a little difference in their armor here and there means nothing.

[thelastlogan]

I don´t know what you are talking about, to me Mythic´s Swordmaster is a perfect adaptation, it´s almost identical to the TT one. Also, miniatures cannot wear different armor or equipment so a little difference in their armor here and there means nothing.

well get some glasses mate, look at my examples again. the characters can still look like TT figures even with the diffrent tiers. and if the differences in armor mean nothing why don't we have the which elf wearing thick armor that covered up her whole body? the appearance means a lot if you want to give people the feel of that character.

[The Penguin Hunter]

The hightest Tiered High Elves SW looks alot like a heavily armored high Elf Swordmaster to me

http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/media/images/conceptArt/CnAT100711.jpg

[thelastlogan]

The hightest Tiered High Elves SW looks alot like a heavily armored high Elf Swordmaster to me

http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/media/images/conceptArt/CnAT100711.jpg

yeah that one probably looks most like one because of the horse hair and robe is more closed in.

i actually think this DE executioner looks like a SM if you had different detailed design and color.
the shoulder pads and face cover is the main reason. and the outer part of the "skirt " where the chain mail is, is closer together.

http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/media/images/screenshots/SS_1207_01.jpg

[VeriusCarth]

This is coming from a bunch of different things. In your reference photos, the main difference is that the WAR Elves don't have Horse-hair on their helms. That's a pretty big difference, seeing as how all TT SM have Horse-hair helmets.

Also, people's issues with the render of the WAR SM not looking like he has enough armor on the leggings of his robe is due to his stance. They actually all have the same scale-mail skirts in those references, however, due to the SM's stance, it looks like he has substantially less; his legs are not only further apart, but if you bent your knees like that, and went into a wide stance, any heavy cloth not secured in the front would fall to the side.

To be completely honest, I think they're perfect adaptations myself, especially when you have to compensate for their need to be unique, since it's an MMO. The models have to look distinct, and due to this, will absolutely not look exactly like TT SM, because they can't all maintain the same standard martial appearance, or else you'd loose that sense of unique-ness with your character.

[Kitsune]

heh, yeah im sure there is armor under the cloth, but it would be nice if they put a sort of slit that would open when you walked and did diffrent motions concerning the legs, not to mention getting onto the mount, that would reveal the armor underneath.

sort of like this http://img88.imageshack.us/my.php?image=elf101gd5.png

That's pretty cool looking. I still like what they are doing in the game though. I don't know jack about the TT or War lore I just know what I like.

[Tzepic]

Is the character in this wallpaper supposed to be a Swordmaster?
http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/media/images/wallpapers/WAR_wall0907_wid02.jpg

If it is I really like the way the Swordmaster looks in that wallpaper. Very "well armored" and yet very elegant and Elvish.

[ChosenOne]

That might be a Phoenix Guard. Could be wrong though. The helm doesnt seem to match up with the Swordmasters.

[Vikingkingq]

Is the character in this wallpaper supposed to be a Swordmaster?
http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/media/images/wallpapers/WAR_wall0907_wid02.jpg

If it is I really like the way the Swordmaster looks in that wallpaper. Very "well armored" and yet very elegant and Elvish.

That's a High Elf Lord. Check the NPC art layout for High Elves.

[ChosenOne]

That's a High Elf Lord. Check the NPC art layout for High Elves.

Got a link?

[Kaeldor]

Got a link?

http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/media/images/conceptArt/CnAT100731.jpg


To the left is the phoenix guard.

[ChosenOne]

Ahh thanks. Had seen the dark elf line up that is similiar to that but not this one. I wish they had finished up the middle two so that it was equal in quality to the dark elf lineup.

[Tzepic]

That's a High Elf Lord. Check the NPC art layout for High Elves.

Well Mythic should steal some of the artwork from the Lord and Tweak it to fit the Swordmaster, because that armor the Lord is wearing is pretty badass.

[ChosenOne]

Well Mythic should steal some of the artwork from the Lord and Tweak it to fit the Swordmaster, because that armor the Lord is wearing is pretty badass.

As I said in the blackguard thread of similarity, I wouldnt doubt if a swordmaster decked out fully in tier 5 gear from city sieging looked just as badass. Maybe it wont be exactly like that, but tier 5 would most likely be lordlike.

A lord npc may have higher base stats but not due to the armor. Have seen set tables for the dwarves and on them it shows some tier 5 gear. Its quite a bit more formidable looking then the tier 4. The rest looked like regular steps up, but the tier 5 looked more like a leap.

[thelastlogan]

Is the character in this wallpaper supposed to be a Swordmaster?
http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/media/images/wallpapers/WAR_wall0907_wid02.jpg

If it is I really like the way the Swordmaster looks in that wallpaper. Very "well armored" and yet very elegant and Elvish.

yeah thats probably one of my favorite concept arts iv seen from them yet.

I also like this guys fan art.

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l162/Lord_crapalot/finalecopy.jpg

i like he how the leggings are being shown, but i think the sleeve part should get bigger at the end.

[Tzepic]

I rather like the full length kilt actually contrary to popular opionion it seems. It doesn't matter if it's cloth or the chain mail doesn't go all the way around as long as there is some plate on the inside right.

The only thing that I would change would be give them a face plate to their helm with only a narrow slit for the eyes. Some of the models in the TT and the "mask" and others don't.

[VeriusCarth]

I rather like the full length kilt actually contrary to popular opionion it seems. It doesn't matter if it's cloth or the chain mail doesn't go all the way around as long as there is some plate on the inside right.

I agree, personally. I've always been a fan of the kilt-style, and robes are no exception to that matter. If it works, why not?

[thelastlogan]

I rather like the full length kilt actually contrary to popular opionion it seems. It doesn't matter if it's cloth or the chain mail doesn't go all the way around as long as there is some plate on the inside right.

The only thing that I would change would be give them a face plate to their helm with only a narrow slit for the eyes. Some of the models in the TT and the "mask" and others don't.

if you mean the kilt like thing that the fellow to the left of the high elf lord has on

http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/media/images/conceptArt/CnAT100731.jpg

I'd rather have the full robe/skirt, but above that, i think a slit of some sort that would reveal armor when he walked or got on horses and what not, would look a bit better and make it look like he has more mobility.

they may have a variety of combinations of this as you go through the tiers or maybe even an option like being able to take off helmets.

The face plate was one of the things i was disappointed in not seeing. i agree with you there. Also concerning TT the horse hairs where only in tier 5 and the winged helmets where in tier 2-4 which i think should maybe be the other way around, seeing as horse hairs are popular among the SW.

[Tzepic]

The concept art I like the best is def http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/media/images/careers/SMas05.jpg

It looks like he's wearing a robe first and foremost then wrapped up in armor from there. I guess robe is better than kilt. I like the robe since they're lilke "Scholar Knights" on their off time they're in that robe reading books in the Tower of Hoeth.:cool:


If only he had his face covered more. These guys are gonna be tanking up serious damage and since they're pretty Elves I don't want my Swordmaster to scratch up his face, this isn't an ugly Dwarf or Orc we're talkin about :D

**Addition**
In the Female Swordmaster's concept drawing it shows the leg armor underneath the robe and it appears to me that they will have tough platemail going all the way to midthigh.
http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/media/images/careers/SMas10.jpg

[Athanas]

Sword Masters will hopefully have face masks for some armor sets or it could be another item. Also I think they should have gloves, leather at the very least but ideally plate gauntlets like in the TT.

Below are my photoshopped images of the Tier 4 Sword Master concept art.

Red themed:
http://www.warhammeralliance.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=2898&c=6&userid=20243

Blue themed:
http://www.warhammeralliance.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=2897&c=6&userid=20243

What does everyone think of the design? I was limited considering I have only paint and not photoshop.

[phillysteak527]

Personally i like how it looks now.

http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/media/images/careers/SMas05.jpg

The sword masters don't need to be heavily armored, being they rely on their agility to avoid hits. The highest tier sword masters like the one in that link are very heavily armored. Any more armor and that would effect your balance.

[ChosenOne]

Sorry, we Shadow Warriors already trademarked the mask. :p

[Liaram]

I was so gutted when I found out that my favorit image of the Sword Master was'nt a SM at all but a rendering of Tyrion.

http://mythicmktg.fileburst.net/war/us/home/images/conceptart/013008_CA05.jpg

It's not that I don't like the the other images of the SM. The armors look great but the colors on them are awful.

http://mythicmktg.fileburst.net/war/us/home/images/armiesofWAR/highelves/SMas03.jpg

No contrast at all. Just pale and dull looking. They lack presence. I realy hope we can dye the cloth and armor to make them look more impressive. The colors on Tyrion's armor and clothing are just perfect.

Does anyone have the latest scoop on dyeing armors?

[Binnesman]

Don't really think you can be agile and deftly handle a greatsword if you're buried in heavy plate. I love the current look they're very samurai looking, yet very unique.

[Grayald]

And yes, you will be able to dye.

[Velryn]

I was so gutted when I found out that my favorit image of the Sword Master was'nt a SM at all but a rendering of Tyrion.

http://mythicmktg.fileburst.net/war/us/home/images/conceptart/013008_CA05.jpg

It's not that I don't like the the other images of the SM. The armors look great but the colors on them are awful.

http://mythicmktg.fileburst.net/war/us/home/images/armiesofWAR/highelves/SMas03.jpg

No contrast at all. Just pale and dull looking. They lack presence. I realy hope we can dye the cloth and armor to make them look more impressive. The colors on Tyrion's armor and clothing are just perfect.

Does anyone have the latest scoop on dyeing armors?

First off, Tyrion is a Sword master, second I think everyone is being rather destruction-ish about this. I think the SM long kilt looks cool, and matches the TT. Yes there is a dieing system too. I think the SM looks really good ingame too.

[Liaram]

And yes, you will be able to dye.

Yes there is a dieing system too.

Excellent :D
Hmm wonder how that works. Better look into it.

-Edit-
And now I have. In case you missed it like I did here's a link:
http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/29401
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And just to throw in my two cents I do think the kilt looks cool, the armors are fantastic (except for the colors), the animations look nothing short of awesome and I love the way he holds the sword along hi's arm when idle.

[Delolith]

First off, Tyrion is a Sword master, second I think everyone is being rather destruction-ish about this. I think the SM long kilt looks cool, and matches the TT. Yes there is a dieing system too. I think the SM looks really good ingame too.

Actually Tyrion is not a Swordmaster. That is rather clear...and even more by his TT rules. He is an elven lord profiled character. The only Swordmaster character that appeared was the Blade Reforged form of Eltharion....which changed in the latest HE book edition to his former non blind ninja version unfortunatelly. Possibly the best character for me just by the single fact he kicked Malekith's and make him run wounded (only person alive that wounded Malekith) even without a single magical item...just by his style prowess. Too bad GW ruined that by accepting that no summer campaigns were gonna be included in the actual GW storyline...A shame really. It is really cool to incorporate to the story actual important TT battles...so you don't have some pansies (DE specifically) claiming the lame Deus ex machina excuss. You just shut them by saying....it happened in the battle...so get over it. Whatever, the lame lore or background that Malekith has....he was killed in that TT battle played by the GW stuff (wounded in the storyline) by Eltharion the Grim, the blade reforged in the Summer champain of Storm of Chaos...whether DEs like it or not.

Delolith

[This]

TBQH, if I roll a Swordmaster, I think I'll be relying on armor dyes to make my Swordmaster look suitably badass. The motley coloring scheme found in the screenshots kinda turn me off.

[Ceyl]

Yeah, Eltharion was my favorite special character as well. Damn cool, lots of options, and didn`t cost you half your army points. I never got a chance to play with him though:-(

Back on topic. I really like the SM kilt theme, no need to change that imo. SM goes Swoosh Swoosh, not Clonk Clonk ;)

And Athanas: Im normally a big fan of your opinions, but I dont agree with the face mask. It become either too rogueish or to too robot-like.

Thats as far as my 2 cents goes i think.

[ChosenOne]

TBQH, if I roll a Swordmaster, I think I'll be relying on armor dyes to make my Swordmaster look suitably badass. The motley coloring scheme found in the screenshots kinda turn me off.

Yeah, they are seemingly set on that color pattern. Havnt really seen much from the in game footage that I was impressed with. They must not have let them use dyes that much for the elven folks.

Safe to say that turqoise, light blue pastel crap isnt gonna fly for this shadow warrior.

[Edmond Dantes]

I like the mask. I would also like to see fully enclosed helmets as well, like the swordmasters at the right hand side of the rank here:

http://uk.games-workshop.com/storefront/store.uk?do=Individual&code=99110210115&orignav=13

I think it adds an extra air of menace to them.

I've always thought the colour scheme chosen for the demonstration characters to be a bit odd; it's like they've taken the classic high elf colours - blue and white with silver armour - and made tweaked all the colours for some reason. The outcome is, while not wholly disagreeable, not as pleasing as the more traditional scheme.

My colours of choice would be more red, cream and gold.

[Grrblt]

Don't really think you can be agile and deftly handle a greatsword if you're buried in heavy plate.
According to the lore tidbit in my tabletop rulebook, elven Swordmasters can cut you in half before you even see them drawing their sword. While wearing heavy plate.

[Delolith]

According to the lore tidbit in my tabletop rulebook, elven Swordmasters can cut you in half before you even see them drawing their sword. While wearing heavy plate.

Well it is not heavy plate technically. It is ithilmar armour....which is way lighter...almost flexible following the patterns of your body movement and even the cloth you see on the "kilt" it is woven with ithilmar fibers. So it is not your stereotypical heavy plate. It is far superior armour. And Swordmaster can actually decapitate you before you even have the time to put up your sword or shield to parry/block the chop;)

Delolith

[evanjellyman]

I think the SM has too much cloth, and not enough armour, from what I've seen.
This is purely from an aesthetic view, which is most important to me. If I want to choose the tank class, I want to choose one that looks the part, I don't want to have to be left without that option just because Im rolling HE. This is of course based on my own opinion that the current high tier SM look to soft, and obviously not everyone will agree.
I really liked the models for the phoenix gaurd, and hope that eventually the SM can end up having that kind of armour coverage.

[Tyrannar]

I like the mask. I would also like to see fully enclosed helmets as well, like the swordmasters at the right hand side of the rank here:

http://uk.games-workshop.com/storefront/store.uk?do=Individual&code=99110210115&orignav=13

I think it adds an extra air of menace to them.

Closed helmets are bad- indeed

[Eldalion]

Aye. Closed helmets might be cool. Pity it won't stop my screen being filled if there's a spit emote in the game and there's an idiot nearby spamming it.

[MHDShogun]

Ummm...this just doesn't make any sense, you say they look completely different, but you use a picture of just one armor set as an example. As The Penguin Hunter pointed out, the higher tiered armor was heavier, had more protection in the front, and had the horse hair. Also, from the picture that you linked, those Swordmasters have cloth in the front of their "garb" too. There is going to be tons of different armor sets and pieces. Or, would you rather all Swordmasters look exactly the same, all running around looking just like the ones from the other game?

[Kier Rhonwen]

I like the armor revealed so far and think it is true to Swordmaster lore - sure the very basic is unfamiliar, but it is likely what Swordmaster characters look like without equipment so should resemble clothing.

I am a bit concerned for how the 20+ Swordmaster sets are going to pan out though - the devs have stressed several times that each career will have a distinctive silhouette, but...
Archmages can wear all manner of crazy clothing so long as retain a basic robe shape.
White Lions can potentially have all kinds of crazy fur garb, or even show some skin as outdoorsfolk and a low armor career.
Shadow Warriors can have a whole range of cloaks, masks, padded armor, leathers, Elven mail etc.
Swordmasters ?

To maintain the silhouette it has to include a long skirt, and for even a nod to practicality a long skirt cannot be as inflexible as solid metal = long cloth skirt with armor on top.
To be recognizable as a tank, Swordmasters cannot just wear clothing or show some skin.

There are only 5 concept art images of armor per gender to go on currently, but even that is sufficient to exhaust the "bigger wings on helm + more jewels on chest + extra layer of shoulder guards" progression potential.
Maybe it is because there have been so few TT Swordmaster miniatures, but I just do not see how our visuals are going to diversify before we all end up with ultra-rare helms that have a 6-foot wingspan & ultra-rare 12 layered shoulder guards ?

Not that anything will deter me from playing Swordmaster - I just don't want to be counting gemstones with a magnifying glass to distinguish armor sets. :p

[Onoku]

I agree, personally. I've always been a fan of the kilt-style, and robes are no exception to that matter. If it works, why not?

I would never get pants if there was always a kilt of equal quality.

[Ridiculous]

I actually really like the Swordmaster look.. kilt thing and all. Except for the helmets.
So far I think all the in game helmets I have seen look terrible.

Should be alot more of the corinthian kind of style like my avatar here or Tyrion(?). That is badass...

Not sure what people mean by closed helmet. But it would have to be an improvement on the T1 Cones. They don't even look functional. I might just go helmetless until T2:shock:.(not really)

This is the only ingame helmet I almost like. http://images.mmorpg.com/features/1923/images/1923_2_t.jpg

Yeah the helmet is the biggest issue with the SM look imo. By alot.

[AgentPaper]

If anything, I'd like to see the swordmaster with less armor, rather than more. As I see it, a swordmaster doesn't need heavy plates to protect himself. He's so nimble and skilled that most armor would merely slow him down. The only thing he needs is him and his sword. No reliances on huge, over-large plates of metal to keep him alive. He's a tank because of his skill, not the amount of metal he can attach to himself, or the thickness of his skin. That said, I can understand more skilled swordmasters having heavier armor, since they will have learned to compensate for the extra weight. I just like the scholar-warrior look and feel that swordmasters have.

[roberthk]

Low tier Swordmaster doesn't have much armor, still looks pretty good in my opinion.
http://img.war-europe.com/syndic_img/careers/fr/SMas01.jpg

Higher tier Swordmaster looks a lot cooler though.
http://img.war-europe.com/syndic_img/careers/fr/SMas05.jpg

[Kaeden Force]

I hope there will an option to hide cloak/ helm in this game like others. Something about the helmets of swordmasters are not appealing to me. Maybe its just the main one shown; but I hope there will be more variety to the look of the swordmasters.

[Tantaeluth]

I actually really like the Swordmaster look.. kilt thing and all. Except for the helmets.
So far I think all the in game helmets I have seen look terrible.

Should be alot more of the corinthian kind of style like my avatar here or Tyrion(?). That is badass...

Not sure what people mean by closed helmet. But it would have to be an improvement on the T1 Cones. They don't even look functional. I might just go helmetless until T2:shock:.(not really)

This is the only ingame helmet I almost like. http://images.mmorpg.com/features/1923/images/1923_2_t.jpg

Yeah the helmet is the biggest issue with the SM look imo. By alot.

I must agree with this. The helmets need to appear more daunting at least. We'll be the front line of our races army, we should at least look a little frightening, even if we are 'pansy-elves'

[Kaeden Force]

Swordmaster: "Come orc and taste the steel of my elven blade"!
Orc: O you gon slice meh up real goo' huh lil fairy?"

I want to be feared not laughed at on the battlefield :rolleyes:

[Lucivar]

Fear from how you look is just that. Face value. True fear is getting your rear end handed to you by a "pansy" looking elf with a huge sword. Then having it happen again and again.... then you have a phobia of elves with long swords and skirst.

I now coin it elvenskirtphobia.

[Rotgut_Eadsmasha]

I'm sorry but out of the 400(?) sets of armor in WAR only two are for the Swordmaster. That's right, you only get the Nub Set and Screenshot Set. Feel free to mix the two sets.

[Delolith]

Fear from how you look is just that. Face value. True fear is getting your rear end handed to you by a "pansy" looking elf with a huge sword. Then having it happen again and again.... then you have a phobia of elves with long swords and skirst.

I now coin it elvenskirtphobia.

Haha well said fellow Swordmaster....on the other hand I think SMs look amazing. Decorated without stupid horns, spikes and monstrous skullmasks. The terror you cause it is not in the looks...but in the skills. And on the other hand I think SMs look exactly like the Swordmaster minatures of GWs like they should...so I think everything is fine.

Delolith

[Hausse]

I'm sorry but out of the 400(?) sets of armor in WAR only two are for the Swordmaster. That's right, you only get the Nub Set and Screenshot Set. Feel free to mix the two sets.
you're dumb, each class has 20 armor sets proof

[Eske Kjaer]

you're dumb, each class has 20 armor sets proof:

I think it's pretty obvious he was joking.

[robmac411]

The SM in this video looks really cool

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-0rQ2wEVzw

[Trynthlas]

I too would like to see them a little more heavily armored. The front of their...garb, is definately cloth looking. Thats a pretty important area to protect.

From what I undestand they have chainmail underneath with cloth over the top.

[Elwyndas Ellorian]

I don't know if those were Test Server vids or not but I was in on the Inevitable City take on Warpstone, it was a ball! (of course I also played a Chosen to take Altdorf, but we won't talk about that)

The armor the SM is wearing is the RR16 Reknown gear that you get as a part of the level 31 Template that everyone get's in T4. There is nicer stuff in there. My level 40 has sweet gear!! I wish I could show it to you :( I think the gear on the toon looks far nicer than anything we saw in concept art. But I guess I am one of those whackjobs that loves the whole look, the helm, everything (err, not the cloaks).

I even love the way the SM stands. Calmly, chest out, shoulders back, looking down and to his left, completely at ease, but ready in an instant to pull the Greatsword off the crook of his elbow and bury it with perfect fluidity and great flair into the harness of his opponent. He just has that look that "I am calm at the moment, but mess with me at great risk to your continued good health"!

Love it!

[VA lemonade]

I don't know if those were Test Server vids or not but I was in on the Inevitable City take on Warpstone, it was a ball! (of course I also played a Chosen to take Altdorf, but we won't talk about that)

The armor the SM is wearing is the RR16 Reknown gear that you get as a part of the level 31 Template that everyone get's in T4. There is nicer stuff in there. My level 40 has sweet gear!! I wish I could show it to you :( I think the gear on the toon looks far nicer than anything we saw in concept art. But I guess I am one of those whackjobs that loves the whole look, the helm, everything (err, not the cloaks).

I even love the way the SM stands. Calmly, chest out, shoulders back, looking down and to his left, completely at ease, but ready in an instant to pull the Greatsword off the crook of his elbow and bury it with perfect fluidity and great flair into the harness of his opponent. He just has that look that "I am calm at the moment, but mess with me at great risk to your continued good health"!

Love it!
haha... I agree. Swordmasters look awesome. Everything about them is sweet. I like cloaks too, because that is how you represent your guild 24/7...

[ShaolinTemple]

yeah that one probably looks most like one because of the horse hair and robe is more closed in.

i actually think this DE executioner looks like a SM if you had different detailed design and color.
the shoulder pads and face cover is the main reason. and the outer part of the "skirt " where the chain mail is, is closer together.

http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/media/images/screenshots/SS_1207_01.jpg

That pic is pretty sick, but I'm still not a fan of the dress.

[RoTM]

Im actually really dissapointed in the elves in general they are too tall, too pale, and too wispy. If you look at the GW TT models for the high elves like the speamen, phoenix guards, and sword masters the figures in the models are much more masculine and human porpotioned with darker skin tones, and the distinctive pronounced angular brow ridge and high cheek bones are gone. The whole game itself looks like the colors have been gamma washed out, but the elves in particular look especially rushed and low res.

Im not thrilled about witch elves losing their mascara, big hair, plate armor, and dread locks either.

[VA lemonade]

Im actually really dissapointed in the elves in general they are too tall, too pale, and too wispy. If you look at the GW TT models for the high elves like the speamen, phoenix guards, and sword masters the figures in the models are much more masculine and human porpotioned with darker skin tones, and the distinctive pronounced angular brow ridge and high cheek bones are gone. The whole game itself looks like the colors have been gamma washed out, but the elves in particular look especially rushed and low res.

Im not thrilled about witch elves losing their mascara, big hair, plate armor, and dread locks either.
In character creation, the high elves can have darker skin. I don't think it looks like a high elf if it has tanned skin, it should be pale. Maybe it is a high elf from California.

Also, the witch elves do have big hair, dread locks, and they can put on make-up that has like the hand of Khaine and a bunch of other stuff... so they kinda have mascara. I think it would be retarded if a MMO had a melee dps in plate armor... that is what tanks wear. The witch elves' armor looks like it is made of plate but they are not wearing much.

[Gisborne]

I think elves in this game actually look very good. The SM looks pretty badass and I'm so glad to get away from WoW's massive shoulder armor look.

[RoTM]

In character creation, the high elves can have darker skin. I don't think it looks like a high elf if it has tanned skin, it should be pale. Maybe it is a high elf from California.

Also, the witch elves do have big hair, dread locks, and they can put on make-up that has like the hand of Khaine and a bunch of other stuff... so they kinda have mascara. I think it would be retarded if a MMO had a melee dps in plate armor... that is what tanks wear. The witch elves' armor looks like it is made of plate but they are not wearing much.

I think my feeling is more that the art in general for WAR has gotten away from the great 80s fantasy look that I always felt was warhammer tabletops signature and instead for the elves at least theyre going for a more traditional realistic lotr movie look.

[ticho123]

I think my feeling is more that the art in general for WAR has gotten away from the great 80s fantasy look that I always felt was warhammer tabletops signature and instead for the elves at least theyre going for a more traditional realistic lotr movie look.

Well that's your oppinion and I respect it, but for me, no goddamn 80s high fantasy stuff with big, oiled up guys with laugable big-a ss swords or elves dressed in diamonds riding on unicorns.

[RoTM]

Well that's your oppinion and I respect it, but for me, no goddamn 80s high fantasy stuff with big, oiled up guys with laugable big-a ss swords or elves dressed in diamonds riding on unicorns.

Warhammer art wasnt ever like that. It has its own style. which is why its my favorite IP.