How much Assault is Assult?

[Talthanys]

I don't mind ranged dps. it certainly has its obvious perks and appeals, but I am very interested in the Assault line.

Clearly it should not have the dps of the White Lion (nor would I want it to), but perhaps it involves a series of debuffs, snares, etc. designed to assist in getting back to a safe distance (for those interested in that sort of thing). I also imagine it will involve stronger spell disruption capabilities.

Where do you all theorize/hope/want for the SW Assault line?

edit: correct spelling of 'assault' in title

[Shadow_Warrior]

I agree that the assault spec shouldn't give us the damage of the Melee DPS classes. While it should give us decent damage if we spec it all the way, I think it should focus heavily on debuffs and snares that you mentioned. Also maybe some high damage finishing moves that can only be used when the enemy is below 25% health or something.

[Wild]

Yeah i am interested in melee part of shadow warrior too.They say that when he gets close to a ranged caster he will be stronger cause he has nice spells interrupt and nice damage in melee but how will that damage compare to a melee dps in a close combats who got more armor and i guess more health?But what when wounded mdps closes on the shadow warrior lets say like 30 % will he gonna use kiting as some rdps in other games or will he be able to finish his opponent with using melee weapon.

The question is because in some other games when the mdps would caught archer type if archer wouldn't get away and couldnt kite even fact that he is on full health while melee on 30 % or little less,he would be ripped apart.Considering there is assault spec it seems that shadow warrior will be good in melee?I mean thats why his name is warrior and not hunter right?:D

In Mark of Chaos game trailer Shadow warrior starts with bow from ambush then closes in and kills few chaos warriors with blade.I think this class has interesting combat style so i cant wait to find more would help my decision on order vs destruction.

P.S:I am not expecting that Shadow warrior will take 5 chosen all alone with that elegance as in the trailer but one has right to dream aye?

[Velryn]

I love the Idea of going scouting Assault, because I'll be able to sneak up front and attack people with my bow right, then once they catch me I'll be able to take with my sword. Another possibility for me is Skirmishing Assault, where you use the kiting abilities to damage them, and when they get close you hack em' up. Either way I wan't to use my sword a little bit. I'm probably gonna end up going scout as a "main spec" with everything else into assault. Feels like the most Ranger outdoorish type option to me, and I'm into that. Along with the Emo backstory, it's over all awesome.

[Foofmonger]

The last poster pretty much has it right.

Even if you spec in assault, it doesn't make you a Melee DPSer. You will still probably get chewed up by any Tank or Melee DPS class if you try to charge straight at them.

So whats the point of it? Well, you are still going to have to use your bow, a lot. However, instead of kiting people who come at you, you may want to engage them in melee, for that is what you specced for.

It would also be effective against casters/support who have CCed you and are near you. Say you get snared by some caster, and he stands near you and tries to blast someone else, you whip out your blades, and disrupt his attack and beat down on him.

Edit: And Wild, I have a hard time believing 1 Shadow Warrior would even come to close to killing 1 Chosen in a straight up melee fest. Maybe if he can get him sub 30-50% life with the bow first though.

[Wild]

Edit: And Wild, I have a hard time believing 1 Shadow Warrior would even come to close to killing 1 Chosen in a straight up melee fest. Maybe if he can get him sub 30-50% life with the bow first though.

Yes if you read early part of the post i said that you take melee when he is down on 30 % or less with the bow and then engage in melee.Just read all of it.

About last part i was just talking about trailer they did in mark of chaos where shadow warrior fights chaos warriors with same tactic using bow first then closing in melee.Thats how i think class will work but there is no much info to know that for sure :)

But of course trailer is not true reflection of lore and strength it is just made for fun and to lure people in the game and make it look cool.
Here is the link of trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqRwWWs74Do

[Foofmonger]

Yes if you read early part of the post i said that you take melee when he is down on 30 % or less with the bow and then engage in melee.Just read all of it.

About last part i was just talking about trailer they did in mark of chaos where shadow warrior fights chaos warriors with same tactic using bow first then closing in melee.Thats how i think class will work but there is no much info to know that for sure :)

But of course trailer is not true reflection of lore and strength it is just made for fun and to lure people in the game and make it look cool.
Here is the link of trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqRwWWs74Do

Oh I totally understand, I was just saying that in-game, its gonna be different then the trailer haha.

The MoC trailer is badass, always has been. You know theres a new version coming out with orc and dark elves in it right (and rebalancing of the gameplay).

[Wild]

Oh I totally understand, I was just saying that in-game, its gonna be different then the trailer haha.

The MoC trailer is badass, always has been. You know theres a new version coming out with orc and dark elves in it right (and rebalancing of the gameplay).

Yeah cant wait for it,they said its gonna be much better then MoC.My favorite unit there gonna be Dark elfs on Cold Ones :).They showed on the end of Chaos campaign orc army ever since i knew orcs are coming and couldn't wait.There is trailer for that one too with Orcs killing both chaos warriors and humans.

Did they give release date of new version Battle March yet?

[Foofmonger]

Yeah cant wait for it,they said its gonna be much better then MoC.My favorite unit there gonna be Dark elfs on Cold Ones :).They showed on the end of Chaos campaign orc army ever since i knew orcs are coming and couldn't wait.There is trailer for that one too with Orcs killing both chaos warriors and humans.

Did they give release date of new version Battle March yet?

From what I can find, anywhere from May-November.

[Eredhel]

From what I can find, anywhere from May-November.

It had better be released before WAR or I wont have any time (and most likely a lot less inclination) to play it :)

My guess is that the assault line will be a mixture of debuffing attacks like hamstringing to slow down enemies to allow you to get back to range and some finishing melee moves to remove those last few pesky HP from your enemies.

[Foofmonger]

It had better be released before WAR or I wont have any time (and most likely a lot less inclination) to play it :)

My guess is that the assault line will be a mixture of debuffing attacks like hamstringing to slow down enemies to allow you to get back to range and some finishing melee moves to remove those last few pesky HP from your enemies.

I would also expect some interrupt/disorients (which is like ability pushback) for pissing off casters who you melee.

And obviously decent damage, but probably limited armor piercing options, as well as limited positional damage.

[Velryn]

I imagined what the different spec uses would look like in anime... and I realized that Skirmish+Assault is dead on way cooler. However you would have to use scouting stance at the beginning to weaken your opponent of course

[Mikhail87]

EDIT: Posted in wrong thread...