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Gabbarabba
02-24-2008, 08:47 PM
i'm pretty new to this game's mechanics (Just began reading about it today), but as of now the most appealing class to me is the shaman. However, i hate the idea of being a healbot like you were forced to be in WoW. It was either do damage or heal. I love the idea of a shaman being able to do both damage and heal, but is it possible to be more damage, with a tiny bit of healing. Or will people be expecting me to be keeping them alive, and therefore force me to heal more than i would like. In the event that shamans are primarily healers, i may be forced to play an squig herder.....<shudder> Can anyone help me out?

Goregaz JiblieSmasha
02-24-2008, 09:12 PM
sad to tell you but the shaman is the greenskins healer. but fear not, you can use masteries to do more damage. but primarily, yeah, you will be doing alot of healing as a shaman. by specing damage, its not like wow where it decides your whole play style, but just a little buffs to existing techniques and such.

XShrike
02-24-2008, 11:57 PM
The Shaman has a Waaagh! mechanic where certain spells, mostly damage ones, generate Waaagh!. You can then Waaagh! to boost the affects of your healing spells. So forcing a Shaman to heal bot would reduce his effectiveness.

seVere
02-25-2008, 12:39 AM
Hes right, your healing will be teh suck if you don't dmg others. A good support class player will be able to kill well and keep him and his allys alive.

Tweeter
02-25-2008, 11:51 AM
Seems as though the Zealot takes the lucky *cough cough* position as healbot so far. With the information on the mechanics of Destruction healers, the Zealot is said to be the only one who doesn't need to put out damage in order to do some sufficient healing, whereas the Shaman is a caster who puts out damage to up his healing and the Disciple the same, only melee.

So expect to be able to put out some decent DPS but at the same time throwing a heal here or there.

Guvna
02-25-2008, 12:21 PM
If your the only healer/support class in your group, you wil be stuck with that roll. If there is another healer in your group you could porb get away with it. Can always start the class and if it does not work out re-roll.

Gabbarabba
02-25-2008, 03:50 PM
Ok, thanks. i'm probably going to end up either manning up and healing, or i might just go choppa, black orc or witch hunter based on what classes are underplayed and what i hear about the fun factor involved in each class.

exx
02-26-2008, 01:21 PM
Ok, thanks. i'm probably going to end up either manning up and healing, or i might just go choppa, black orc or witch hunter based on what classes are underplayed and what i hear about the fun factor involved in each class.

first off for what im about to say, theres no way to know but this is what i hope

you probably should "just go choppa, black orc or witch hunter" because i hope, i hope, i hope. warhammer doesnt allow folks to so drasticaly alter there core class away from what the core class is meant to do like wow did. wow had so few classes and refused to make more classes they had to put completely different types of skills into each class. there are way more classes in warhammer to fit the different play styles, if healing isnt your bag dont be a healer because like i said, i realy hope they dont take the healing out of the healer and the tank out of the tank like they did in wow

but saying all that, shaman is probably going to be my class, standing back and affecting the other grp with cc and some really interesting sounding skills and healing but being able to not just heal because if you just heal you are very bad at healing

i forsee allot of pvp deaths from burst asist damage before the healer can build up enough waaagh or rightuous fury to heal because what ive read from folks playing at conventions, your heals suk without those built up


god i spell bad wen im drunk

Gemini
02-26-2008, 01:46 PM
first off for what im about to say, theres no way to know but this is what i hope

you probably should "just go choppa, black orc or witch hunter" because i hope, i hope, i hope. warhammer doesnt allow folks to so drasticaly alter there core class away from what the core class is meant to do like wow did.


Actually, there is a way to know, because Mythic told us directly that no matter what mastery choice you pick, you'll still be in your Archetype, you'll still fill the same roles, just in slightly different manners depending on your spec.

Scratch
02-26-2008, 02:36 PM
As a shaman you'll also be a goblin, which means you'll be, at times, a footrest for us bigger, killier Orcs!

But yes, hopefully you can balance things out. Even if you're in a group with a zealot or such, you shouldn't stop healing. Your waaagh can build up and up and you can put off a heal in a quick shot to bring a Black Orc back from near death while the zealot is busy healing to the side. Of course, you can also Waaagh you damage spells too, a few of them anyways, I think.

Button Basher
03-04-2008, 12:34 PM
if I rold a shaman which I most likely will I'll try to team up with a blorc and stand directly behind him so I'm hard to target and still cast DD and heals *grin*

Vaeoth
03-06-2008, 11:19 AM
Seems as though the Zealot takes the lucky *cough cough* position as healbot so far. With the information on the mechanics of Destruction healers, the Zealot is said to be the only one who doesn't need to put out damage in order to do some sufficient healing, whereas the Shaman is a caster who puts out damage to up his healing and the Disciple the same, only melee.

So expect to be able to put out some decent DPS but at the same time throwing a heal here or there.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=B-9unhHI9Qk

Watch this video. Zealots seem to be good healers but I don't think they will be the only good healer, they seem to be good at healing when the fight is happening over their inscriptions on the ground, otherwise they seem to be below average. So its just a different flavor of healing. The shaman are below avg until they dish out some deeps then they are above average.