Proof

[c_vadnais]

Alright, I know this is gonna raise all sorts of hell and fire, but im asking anyway. I've seen a lot of people who would sware on their life that the White Lion is the Melee DPS. So i'd like to see some proof, all i've seen is a picture of some banner at a convention with a white lion on it, which isn't even close to proof for me.:rolleyes:

People are getting anxious, I know, but i'd like to see what proof people have of it being the MDPS for us beyond some picture some guy took, because keep in mind, the original cinematic has a dwarven slayer in it, but we can't play one of those now can we?:cool:

[Aqe]

The picture was taken quite recently. Other than that there is no official information.

[Wurrok]

Mythic did say that order would have a pet class and theres only one class left. Oh and the picture had a pet lion next to the elf so that's a big clue.

[wellsy]

Actually, most of the evidence quoted in favour of the White Lion is based on a process of elimination. Mythic has stated that the last HE class will be a pet class, and we also know that the HE only have the Melee DPS slot available.

A cross-reference with HE lore indicates that the White Lions are the best fit to these criteria, as both MDPS in their own right (Asur woodsmen with axes that can cut you in two in one stroke), and as the pet class (their name is taken from the animals they hunt in order to become a White Lion, a member of the Pheonix King's royal guard, and it isn't a stretch to imagine some form of taming of their namesakes).

Certainly, there has been no official confirmation either way, but given what we've been told, the White Lion fits best.

[c_vadnais]

k, thanks for the feedback, I guess it just annoys me that some people act like they'd bet their life's savings on something that isn't for sure yet.

[Tyr]

Not that I'd bet my life savings on it, but apart from whats already been said is that White Lions are iconic. Before any HE classes were announced and we were having "guess the elf classes" threads the three that are already announced came up in almost all the list. The WL also was placed by most people into their expected class lists. This is because the three we already know are highly iconic to the Asur just as the WL. White Lions are are also unique, how many other fantasy "good" elves have guys that run around with huge axes a hew enemies down.

I'm open that it could be something else, I just expect it to be a White Lion.

[Estebar]

Oh, come on now...

We've had information which stated ages ago that there would be one more pet class after the Squig Herder and it would be for Order faction. So far, there has been no Order pet class so by process of elimination we're left with the High Elf Melee DPS Class. In the Chrace Zone Overview, it is stated emphatically that on occasion, White Lions and Chracian mountain lions team up, and they're a deadly combination on the battlefield when they work together. This is a new addition to White Lion lore which is never mentioned anywhere else in Warhammer lore. There must be some significant reason as to why they would emphasise this point so randomly in this game, and only in this game We already have visual evidence of a White Lion fighting a Witch Elf (another Melee DPS class) with a War Lion pet on a poster. The White Lion is in the foreground which shows that he has prominence over the Witch Elf in the pic and thus is most probably a PC rather than some random NPC in which case he'd be in the background as a lesser character. Those are our three solid sources of evidence showing that the class is almost definitely going to be the White Lion with a War Lion pet, but I wouldn't be surprised if they release some sort of blooper April Fools class instead just to mess with us.

[c_vadnais]

Oh, come on now...
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We already have visual evidence of a White Lion fighting a Witch Elf (another Melee DPS class) with a War Lion pet on a poster. The White Lion is in the foreground which shows that he has prominence over the Witch Elf in the pic and thus is most probably a PC rather than some random NPC in which case he'd be in the background as a lesser character.<snip>

this is kinda what im talking about....

its just a banner, just because it looks like the WL is about to wtfpwn the witch elf doesn't mean its a PC or an NPC, ITS A FRICKIN POSTER. I'm not denying that its the White Lion, I just wanted to see the evidence instead of just people going "omg it just is noob"

[mongoose]

The picture was taken quite recently. Other than that there is no official information.

Not quite.......although I dont have any proof to back up what Im about to say..........when that banner pict was released, Garth also found and uploaded a pict of a PP display from the same conference in question, showing a class/race table. It had ALL of the careers filled in and the White Lion was in the HE MDPS slot.

Garth shortly thereafter took it down (for obvious reasons) and replaced it with a different table (http://www.warhammeralliance.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=2890&c=6&userid=3).

I wish I had been a smart Skaven and saved that SS Garth posted but I didnt sadly. :mad: So you will just have to trust me when I say there is more evidence.

[Estebar]

this is kinda what im talking about....

its just a banner, just because it looks like the WL is about to wtfpwn the witch elf doesn't mean its a PC or an NPC, ITS A FRICKIN POSTER. Yes, but all the other official WAR posters made so far depicting 1-on-1 battle scenes have been between playable classes.

Dwarf Hammerer vs. Greenskin Black Orc (http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/media/images/WAR_Hammer_v_Black-Orc.jpg) Chaos Chosen vs. Empire Bright Wizard (http://www.warhammeronline.com/english/media/artandillust/images/Chosen_Bright_Wizard.jpg) Empire Witch Hunter vs. Chaos Zealot (http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/media/images/AoW_Concept_Final_WvsZ.jpg) And the Dark Elf Witch Elf vs. High Elf White Lion (http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/2945/dh07ah9.jpg) poster is done in the same style.

[Gemini]

To sum up this thread, there is plenty of evidence to suggest White Lions, but no solid, conclusive proof.

[Adrda]

in one of the new phone vids they talk about "the cats" sure they then swing it to be about like, cat critters in Aldorf which would be amazing in of its self, but i don't know, could be Paul hinting to help reassure people...


its win-win cats that attack invaders is awesome enough that, well, honestly, its just too amazing.

[mongoose]

Yes, but all the other official WAR posters made so far depicting 1-on-1 battle scenes have been between playable classes.

Dwarf Hammerer vs. Greenskin Black Orc (http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/media/images/WAR_Hammer_v_Black-Orc.jpg)
Chaos Chosen vs. Empire Bright Wizard (http://www.warhammeronline.com/english/media/artandillust/images/Chosen_Bright_Wizard.jpg)
Empire Witch Hunter vs. Chaos Zealot (http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/media/images/AoW_Concept_Final_WvsZ.jpg)And the Dark Elf Witch Elf vs. High Elf White Lion (http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/2945/dh07ah9.jpg) poster is done in the same style.

This is an excellent point because I HIGHLY doubt at this point in WAR development they would create posters of careers that wont be in the game. The only reason why the Slayer was in the original promo was becasue they were in at that time but since the Slayer replacement, ALL displayed art reflects in game and playable toons.

Really not a lot left to say.

[Yavvy]

There is no 100% proof until Mythic officially announces the career.

But I'd still say its over 99.99% chance of it being the White Lion ;)

[Zianex]

Mythic did say that order would have a pet class and theres only one class left. Oh and the picture had a pet lion next to the elf so that's a big clue.

Why a pet class? That sucks imo :(

Can you give me a link to the picture btw?

[Belaz]

I for one will be highly dissapointed if the White Lion doesn't make it into the game. I really enjoyed the beast lord in EQ1 and have been waiting for another game with a similar concept to come along. Plus with meaningful end game pvp this is a game that could last for a long time for me.

Unless they dump the White Lion and I can't find another class I want to play.

[malefacus]

I for one will be highly dissapointed if the White Lion doesn't make it into the game. I really enjoyed the beast lord in EQ1 and have been waiting for another game with a similar concept to come along. Plus with meaningful end game pvp this is a game that could last for a long time for me.

Unless they dump the White Lion and I can't find another class I want to play.

Interesting, I never played EQ1, can you elaborate on the beast lord mechanics?

It's the only class left, and I realy hope it's te WL cause there is cool class but none of em truly fits my taste. And WL is like my all time DnD avatar, but my concept was with a white tiger and of course, no pet. But it was a berseker melee DPS. It's a bit like my dream career. WL will make me fall for WAR.

[Belaz]

You bet beast lord in a nut shell.

Basically you were a melee support dps class. Your pet turned out to be a pretty darn good tank, with buffs, plus the fact that you have pet only mana efficient heals made it an even better tank. You have a few self/other player buffs, but most of your good buffs were pet only. Throw in with that some ok melee dps from your char and some pretty good enemy debuffs and you and your pet were a pretty impressive fighting team. Get seperated from your pet and both of you were pretty much toast. You couldn't take the hits and your pet wouldn't last long without your enemy debuffs and pet only heals.

Managing aggro was a trick, especially in groups, but it was alot of fun as well trying to help your group as much as you could and still pump out some damage. I also found it enjoyable to not only have to worry about what I was attacking, but to be concious of what my pet was doing at all times as well. They were notorious for breaking mez (crowd control) if you didn't watch them.

The tank type pet wouldn't work too well in RvR, but they could make it a buff choice thing or a mastery path thing to change your pet from tank to dps or some mix.

I have been waiting for another game to try their hand at a melee oriented pet dps class, I was dissapointed to see EQ2 not include the class. Plus the fact that WL has the lore for wielding a 2h axe makes it all that much more enticing. If it doesn't make it in I for one will be highly dissapointed.

[malefacus]

Thx a lot Belaz!

Very interesting, but I would prefer to be the main source of power and the pet to be tehre for support, with some useful skills tp help whe you get in trouble. I wish to be a great source of DPS while my pet distract and maybe do debuff like bleed or slow enemy. Probable this while be possible with the mastery. But the WL deffenetely HAS to be in.

[Belaz]

Part of the fun is when the two became one impressive fighting force. When the pet and the master are both a true threat then that is when the enemy has to choose how he fights. Let's hope that you cannot ignore the pet and simply kill the master like in every other game.