Orc Speak Mod?

[Arkane]

Considering there have been piratespeak mods for other games because tools were available to them, how long do you think it would be before an Orc Speak mod was made using http://www.war-europe.com/#/orcanizer/?lang=en ?

[Utakata]

Like 3 seconds.

The work's already done, all it needs is to be implemented in a mod.

[wtnind]

Considering there have been piratespeak mods for other games because tools were available to them, how long do you think it would be before an Orc Speak mod was made using http://www.war-europe.com/#/orcanizer/?lang=en ?

Just aslong as I can get an addon called unorc that filters it all back again and prepends it with [Orc] I'll be happy. That would do my head in trying to read leet speak all night.

[GoldenTiger]

Just aslong as I can get an addon called unorc that filters it all back again and prepends it with [Orc] I'll be happy. That would do my head in trying to read leet speak all night.


Yep, and it marks people I won't want to group with that way as well ;).

[Garthilk]

This would be a pretty cool addon if you ask me. I hope someone develops it.

[Korica Riftaxe]

If you don't like orc speak, you don't like Warhammer - this is law.

While a mod would be cool, I'm fine with typin' it. Iz not dat 'ard.

[Tyonz]

hopefully you all are going to play on the RP servers ;)

[Sickletooth]

hopefully you all are going to play on the RP servers ;)


No, gonna follow you around blabbering in my native orc tongue.

[Korica Riftaxe]

We don't come into your raids spouting out forsooth's, don't come into our RP talking about your real life.
-Unknown

[MrProphet]

sigh... we should have seen this one coming...

oh thats right, I did. :rolleyes:

[Saija Rii]

I love the idea of an Orc-Speak mod, or better yet, having it implemented into the game itself... It really wouldn't be hard to read, I don't see what the non-RPers are whinin' about.

[Throgam]

Nice idea, good for those who dont quite grasp the Orc speach and still want to RP an orc.

[VanCrackin]

I think accents are more annoying than immersing in RP, tbh.

[Saija Rii]

I think accents are more annoying than immersing in RP, tbh.

If they are done well they arn't so annoying. Though people doing russian accents using 'V' for every other word was retarded in Tabula Rasa.

[Asmodean]

hopefully you all are going to play on the RP servers ;)
Sure, rp server all the way! It is somehow disturbing to see a goblin shaman called Bicycleofdoom or Pwnorderhrd fighting next to you. Those are the times when I really wish the enemy would beat the crap out of this particular character :rolleyes:


Edit: I should really try to play an Empire character. Mingling the German accent Swabian with English might be a lot of fun (for me at least hahaha)

[Axxar]

I made this thread (http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9704) on the subject a while ago.

[GoldenTiger]

"Orc speak" mods should never be used on normal servers, just RP ones... we don't come bursting into your RP server going OMG DID YOU HEAR THE LATEST NEWS!? WOW, THAT BLOKE IS A NOOB!!!! LOL!!! etc., so don't come into our normal ones "roleplaying" in an annoying way. It's just a quick sign to not group with you and place you on /ignore for being annoying.

[Throgam]

Sure, rp server all the way! It is somehow disturbing to see a goblin shaman called Bicycleofdoom or Pwnorderhrd fighting next to you. Those are the times when I really wish the enemy would beat the crap out of this particular character :rolleyes:


Edit: I should really try to play an Empire character. Mingling the German accent Swabian with English might be a lot of fun (for me at least hahaha)

I hope they make a strict enough nameing policy which they back up to stop that type of nameing. or they could block out ejbgvrjhvbrehb type names in the character design page

As for the guy above me, keep those oocers out and i think the RPers wont bother you.

[Axxar]

"Orc speak" mods should never be used on normal servers, just RP ones...Heaven forbid someone roleplaying in a roleplaying game :rolleyes:

[GoldenTiger]

Heaven forbid someone roleplaying in a roleplaying game :rolleyes:

That's what RP servers are for, hence why they are labelled "ROLE-PLAYING SERVER".

[Axxar]

Roleplaying servers is for enforcement of certain rules to better keep the illusion of the Warhammer world. The game itself is a roleplaying game, so it's for roleplaying no matter what server you're on. Non-roleplaying servers simply don't enforce any rules, allowing non-rp'ers to use "silly" names and talk out of character without feeling left outside. The fact that these servers exist doesn't randomly change the game into not being an MMORPG. Chastising someone for roleplaying on a normal server in a roleplaying game is somewhat silly, and certainly not enforced by any rules from Mythic's side. While you are free to make up your own fictional set of rules for the game, don't expect anyone to follow them or even know them.

[GoldenTiger]

Roleplaying servers is for enforcement of certain rules to better keep the illusion of the Warhammer world. The game itself is a roleplaying game, so it's for roleplaying no matter what server you're on. Non-roleplaying servers simply don't enforce any rules, allowing non-rp'ers to use "silly" names and talk out of character without feeling left outside. The fact that these servers exist doesn't randomly change the game into not being an MMORPG. Chastising someone for roleplaying on a normal server in a roleplaying game is somewhat silly, and certainly not enforced by any rules from Mythic's side. While you are free to make up your own fictional set of rules for the game, don't expect anyone to follow them or even know them.


It's the same thing as doing that on these forums... go ahead, try typing in orc speak every post you make... this is a ROLEPLAYING GAME forum, so should the same rules not apply for you? :rolleyes: I bet you'd have fun! I don't know if you've ever played an MMO before, as it sounds like not, but people simply do not roleplay or expect anyone to roleplay on "Normal" servers. They go there because they don't want in-character roleplaying from other players.

[Axxar]

Roleplayers generally go to the roleplaying servers (if one is available) for obvious reasons. When they do go on normal servers it's typically because they are "light" roleplayers or can't get their friends to roll with them on a roleplaying server. Roleplayers are rare on normal servers, though roleplaying servers usually have a very large amount of non-roleplayers on them.

The comparison to the forum doesn't hold much water as the forum is about the game, not part of it. It's like saying you have to be in the ring before you can talk about boxing.

[Tarion]

I'd expect it to be included in the game. And if it was, it'd have a nice handy "un-Ork" feature, which you could toggle on and off.

[Arkane]

I don't see the point of negativity in this thread from some of you. Obviously this would be a mod that only people who wanted to talk like this would have, and these people would be on an RP server MOSTLY. Nobody is forcing you, Golden, to download it.

[wtnind]

typing something that is difficult to read is annoying to people. Any decent roleplayer can just imagine in his mind it in orc.

Orc speak is stuff typed phonetically to sound rough. It takes longer to read and is no different from me typing:

wat ez jour nayem frend? eye amm from altdoorf

I predict that:

A) there will be an "orcifier" addon (with toggle on/off), this affects messages you send only
B) there will be an "un-orcifier" (probably built into the same addon), this affects all messages you recieve
C) it will be fan produced and not developed by Mythic
D) 99% of players on non-rp servers will hate you for typing in orc
E) 95% of players on rp servers will hate you for typing in orc

[GoldenTiger]

I don't see the point of negativity in this thread from some of you. Obviously this would be a mod that only people who wanted to talk like this would have, and these people would be on an RP server MOSTLY. Nobody is forcing you, Golden, to download it.


I AM forced however to see people using it on my chat, even if I'm not using it myself (which I never would). It's assinine, annoying, and just aggravates people on normal servers. It makes your text difficult to read, and a chore to trek through. If you use it on a normal server, just know you'll be chastised/asked to turn it off by your groups. We don't come onto your RolePlay servers and annoy you, so don't come onto our normal servers to annoy us with that.

[Nerissa]

Oh no. You might see someone type in orc speak in general chat. Truly this is the END OF THE WORLD AS WE KNOW IT.

[GoldenTiger]

Oh no. You might see someone type in orc speak in general chat. Truly this is the END OF THE WORLD AS WE KNOW IT.


The point is that it annoys other players. People who do that on purpose are known as "griefers" and are not a liked sort. The end.

[Arkane]

I AM forced however to see people using it on my chat, even if I'm not using it myself (which I never would). It's assinine, annoying, and just aggravates people on normal servers. It makes your text difficult to read, and a chore to trek through. If you use it on a normal server, just know you'll be chastised/asked to turn it off by your groups. We don't come onto your RolePlay servers and annoy you, so don't come onto our normal servers to annoy us with that.
Actually, there is nothing difficult to read about it at all. Have you tried using the translator?

I AM forced ’oweva to see people usin’ it on me chat, even if I’s not usin’ it myself (which I neva would). It’z assinine, annoyin’, an’ just aggravatez people on normal serverz. It makez your text difficult to read, an’ a chore to trek drough. If you use it on a normal serva, just know you’ll be chastised/asked to turn it off by your groupz. We don’t come onto your RolePlay serverz an’ annoy you, so don’t come onto our normal serverz to annoy us wiv dat.If you don't like people using it put them on ignore and your problem is solved.

[Saija Rii]

We don't come onto your RolePlay servers and annoy you, so don't come onto our normal servers to annoy us with that.

Actually you guys do. All the time. RP servers are a joke now. I have found better RP on Normal Servers then RP servers. Sure, I will be rolling on a RP server, but I am willing to bet my paycheck that from day one, you guys will be on our RP server harrassing us. It is how it will always be.

Have you ever rolled on an RP server? We get harrassed and griefed for even the smallest amount of RP on RP servers. We are insulted to the point that we don't even care anymore. If we can put up with this, you can put up with an Ork speech mod. Its not even that hard to read.

Besides, most people will only use it in RP situations anyways, and turn it off in RvR or PvE situations where their, and your full attention is needed.

An Ork speech mod would be a welcome addition to what is shaping up to be a great game.

[Tzim]

Dat be when wees Orcs get our smasha, an' bashas, an choppas an WAAGGH!

[Kinthral]

Besides, most people will only use it in RP situations anyways, and turn it off in RvR or PvE situations where their, and your full attention is needed.
Ain't dat da truf'.

(Oh snap.)

I don't think there are that many RPer's that enjoy RPing in a group that obviously isn't and would obviously much rather have you toss them the heal you've been conjuring in Vent for the last 15 seconds (;) JK). Point being, it'll be used when people will actually understand/care to understand the language you're using to communicate with. It's the same way people don't start giving instructions in German when everyone is doing fine with English, and then expect some sort of positive outcome.

I'm a casual RPer, I'll probably play on a normal server, and I'll probably drop the occasional line in Orc-speak. Just something the people around me will have to get used to.

[Kugruk]

I dont see anyone of us from shadowclan using the mod, seeing as how we have a Orc RP language of our own already. We rolled on a "PvP" server with our WoW branch because when we formed, there were no RPPvP realms, and we wanted to bash skulls without having to ask permission from our enemies. We are all looking forward to RPing, RP server or not.

[Ekredem]

An orc-speak mod would rule. Someone please make it happen!

[flipper]

If they are done well they arn't so annoying. Though people doing russian accents using 'V' for every other word was retarded in Tabula Rasa.
If they are done well they are good, but mods don't do it well.
All a mod does is make everyone talk the same- but make it slightly harder to read.
It adds nothing to characters.
Now taking the time to add your own little personalized quirks to your toon... that makes it very different.

[Lev]

I wouldn't mind seeing an orc speak mod. It'd be interesting and would give a little bit of comic effect. Golden seems, to me, to be one of the small percentage of people who just can't get over the fact that people want to do something other than have fun and show off some skills. RP players are fun to run into on those rare occasions even if I wouldn't do it myself. The no nonsense over serious players ruin it though by attacking every RP player and trying to force them to leave. *cough*

[Fexxe]

Would you guys give GoldenTiger a break please? He's right, I think it's very annoying when people used piratespeak in wow or any other game, because you have to focus more to read it, and you can't just skim the text like you are used to.
I dont mind if they implement it into the game, but there should be an "unorc" mode then, like someone suggesten already, so you can speak all the orcish you want to, but I can choose to not see it.

[Malis]

hmmm, id like it to have. It would be fun.

however what i want more, and what i hope is included ingame

/waaagh!!!!

[Bakebehe]

The point is that it annoys other players. People who do that on purpose are known as "griefers" and are not a liked sort. The end.

Obvious troll is obvious.

I'll be RPing it up, I enjoy it quite a lot, but by god some of the reactions in this thread. I hope I roll on the same server and grief your RP, a lot of you sound like the same bunch of elitists who stomped on people trying to get into that part of the game.

[Kruggak]

There is a profanity filter built into games, the same could be done for the orcaniser. You could have an orc say somthing but if the player has turned his orcaniser off he only sees normal English or what language the server is set to

Wouldnt be a need to translate it back and any such thing would have errors

[Bad_Boy]

That's what RP servers are for, hence why they are labelled "ROLE-PLAYING SERVER".

LMFAO.

I didn't read any replies after this, so I assume you've already been slapped down for this.

But jesus, that level of ignorance is astounding.

You do realize Warhammer Online is an MMORPG.

You know what RPG stands for?

Do I have to put it in qoutes and in caps and embarrase you further? Lets hope not.

Think before you speak.

[ZeppelinJ0]

Heh I can't wait to see Chaos and HE speaking like Orcs :P

[Saija Rii]

Heh I can't wait to see Chaos and HE speaking like Orcs :P

LOL...

Someone should make the HE son of Sigmar and the Ever Queen who was stolen by DE at age five and then escaped at age six and was hence forth raised by goblins in secret to one day be used as a secret weapon.

[Fexxe]

LMFAO.

I didn't read any replies after this, so I assume you've already been slapped down for this.

But jesus, that level of ignorance is astounding.

You do realize Warhammer Online is an MMORPG.

You know what RPG stands for?

Do I have to put it in qoutes and in caps and embarrase you further? Lets hope not.

Think before you speak.

You kinda shoot you self in the foot by saying that. The term RPG, ofc means Role Playing Game, but it's a defenition of what type of game it is. Its not a FPS, because FPS' are about shooting other people with big guns, and restart the map.
RPGs are about making a char, and improving that char, by leveling, armor and so on.

It does not mean that a MMORPG is a game that is full of people saying "Hail thee! Whom has forsaken the dark Lord of the Cru.. bla bla" (I'm not good at speaking in Role Playish ;)

I would also like to see an option for adding Orcspeak into the game, but it should be able for us "normal" people, who dont want to hear that kind of chat all day, to turn it off so that we get it in a normal way

[wtnind]

It does not mean that a MMORPG is a game that is full of people saying "Hail thee! Whom has forsaken the dark Lord of the Cru.. bla bla" (I'm not good at speaking in Role Playish ;)


Yeah, like who roleplayed in diablo2? It should be called massively multiplayer roll playing game, to reflect the fact that so few people are there to roleplay.

[Axxar]

eak into the game, but it should be able for us "normal" people, who dont want to hear that kind of chat all day, to turn it off so that we get it in a normal wayWhich is precisely why I suggested having it as an in-game feature rather than a mod, with a filter to turn incoming racial accents off.

[Nerissa]

Which is precisely why I suggested having it as an in-game feature rather than a mod, with a filter to turn incoming racial accents off.

Most language mods come equipped with their own filter.


I used to have one for WoW, pre-TBC. It had multiple levels. The first level would just eliminate all lolspeak from text. (I loved that, it made Trade bearable). I forget what 2 and 3 did in addition to that, but 4 would accentize the text according to the race of the character that said it. Needless to say, this was highly amusing.

You had to actually go out of your way and shift+click your own text when you were typing it in order to accent it.

[Axxar]

The problem is you'd have to download the mod to get the filter.

[Bad_Boy]

RPGs are about making a char, and improving that char, by leveling, armor and so on.

Actually the term RPG and FPS are subjective terms - they fit a wide range of games.

I was merely trying to point out how foolish GoldenTiger was being by claiming that role playing servers were for role playing and ignoring the fact the entire game is an RPG.

Its foolish to claim a RPG is about creating a character and leveling and so on - its much more than that and in cases its much less, its a fluid term, but ultimately you play a role - you're role playing, it can't ever not be that or it wouldn't be an RPG.

I could discuss this more but its stupid, I was merely calling out Golden on how stupid his comment was and how little thought that went into it.

[wtnind]

Most language mods come equipped with their own filter.


I used to have one for WoW, pre-TBC. It had multiple levels. The first level would just eliminate all lolspeak from text. (I loved that, it made Trade bearable). I forget what 2 and 3 did in addition to that, but 4 would accentize the text according to the race of the character that said it. Needless to say, this was highly amusing.

You had to actually go out of your way and shift+click your own text when you were typing it in order to accent it.

To make this more clear, there are 2 ways you can do it.

1. convert all incomming chat and your own chat but only as its displayed to you
2. on all outgoing chat from you.

Method 1 makes you think everyone including yourself is talking orkish and has no effect on anyone else. Method 2 anoys the hell out of a lot of people.

Guess which one I support

edit: oh yeah and because theres a addon out there that does this thing in wow then it should be relatively easy for people to port it over. Mythics team can't do it however since you can't just drop a pile of open source code into your commercial application.

[Nerissa]

To make this more clear, there are 2 ways you can do it.

1. convert all incomming chat and your own chat but only as its displayed to you
2. on all outgoing chat from you.

Method 1 makes you think everyone including yourself is talking orkish and has no effect on anyone else. Method 2 anoys the hell out of a lot of people.

Guess which one I support



The mod did both, actually. As I said, you had to tell it to 'translate' it but honestly...

Ork speak is not that hard for anyone to use even without a mod. The mod would just make it more correct.


Method 2 annoying people is the reason /ignore was introduced to MMOs a while back. It's not just for people that creep you out.

[orzu]

Forget ork speak, make a 1337 speak mod! That will make people even more happy!

[Silver3a]

They do make RP servers for people to go nuts roll playing with the true to form speaking and every day actives, so if that is you're cookie then go there and have fun, as for that blocking everyone you find annoying even wow didn't have a long enough list for that. at any rate I will be rolling a archmage so I wont have to think about it.

[VermillioN]

I laughed when I saw a video of a night elf player in stormwind walking in town, when asked why isn't he running he said "why exert myself when I can just walk" thats hardcore roleplaying.

[WarMachine]

Roleplaying servers is for enforcement of certain rules to better keep the illusion of the Warhammer world. The game itself is a roleplaying game, so it's for roleplaying no matter what server you're on. Non-roleplaying servers simply don't enforce any rules, allowing non-rp'ers to use "silly" names and talk out of character without feeling left outside. The fact that these servers exist doesn't randomly change the game into not being an MMORPG. Chastising someone for roleplaying on a normal server in a roleplaying game is somewhat silly, and certainly not enforced by any rules from Mythic's side. While you are free to make up your own fictional set of rules for the game, don't expect anyone to follow them or even know them.
Great post, well said, +10interwebs for that one.



Personally, I'd love to see an Orcspeek mod, I love the way they talk.

[seirios]

gief dwarf speak mod too :o

[Dolash]

Orcs are exceptional in many ways, and one of those ways is language. For example, a "Dwarf Mod" wouldn't be much good because Dwarfs speak intelligently and so any foul-up where the translator has mistaken a word and provided something else would make the conversation seem very artificial and filtered. Orcs, on the other hand, have no great mastery of language, and thus any slip ups or miscommunications in fact *excentuate* their Orcyness.

[Ripple]

I think this is a brilliant idea, there needs to be a standard for this. Some people go way overboard with the orc talk.

[Gromzog]

Would be a very nice mod, however it'll be really annoying to have to keep typing in a command for every line you wanted to write. I highly doubt the game will allow you to capture and change a line of text you are writing into the chat panel before it's outputted. You'll have to do a command and then your text... such as "/say_orc whatever you want", instead of just typing in directly which would get seriously annoying, or at least it would be for me.

[Dolash]

Would be a very nice mod, however it'll be really annoying to have to keep typing in a command for every line you wanted to write. I highly doubt the game will allow you to capture and change a line of text you are writing into the chat panel before it's outputted. You'll have to do a command and then your text... such as "/say_orc whatever you want", instead of just typing in directly which would get seriously annoying, or at least it would be for me.

Some MMOs set your default channel to the last channel you said anything in, so if you go /say_orc then say something, the next time you go to write a chat message it'll default to /say_orc and you won't have to write it out again. Changing the default back to /say is as simple as saying something that begins with /say.

[Thalyon]

I AM forced however to see people using it on my chat, even if I'm not using it myself (which I never would). It's assinine, annoying, and just aggravates people on normal servers. It makes your text difficult to read, and a chore to trek through. If you use it on a normal server, just know you'll be chastised/asked to turn it off by your groups. We don't come onto your RolePlay servers and annoy you, so don't come onto our normal servers to annoy us with that.

If I was to get upset at the things that people write and I can't understand online I would never be playing any online game. 733t-speak is a perfect example. Just ignore it. You are selling youself short if you believe you won't be able to ignore or get used to it. As far as prohibiting people - they can't even keep people from cussing. How would they prohibit speaking in orc? Don't make a mountain out of a mole-hill.

Better yet - Just make use of your ignore list and quit trying to make people play the way you want them to.

[Fateweaver-WHA]

Sorry but this was a thread necro. Thank you for using the search function though.