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Nordland Infantry
03-12-2008, 06:01 PM
This might be a pretty odd question, but what exactly is everyone talking about when they say "Stick close to the KOTBS and get bonuses" or something like that. Is it sort of like the warrior in wow and its say, battle shout? I hope not, because I hated those. They only last for 2-3 minutes, and you always forget to use them.

So my question, what exactly do kotbs do in terms of commands and such?

Kilrogg-WHA
03-12-2008, 06:12 PM
KoTBS are kind of the opposite of Chosen. Chosen have offensive/harmful auras, KoTBS have beneficial/defensive auras for their group.

Nordland Infantry
03-12-2008, 06:57 PM
Oh ok, so its auras, not something that I have to keep clicking on every 2 minutes

Maranatha001
03-12-2008, 08:04 PM
Its a combination of things.

Yes there will be auras, but there will also be those shout like abilities (Commands). However, unlike the warrior in WoW, the shouts are what KotBS will spec for. They are huge very benificial buuffs that target a wide number of people (Your group), unlike the insignificant +minimum Atk Bonus like battle shout.

And I do suspect that the times on the commands will last a lot longer then only 2 minutes. I hated those times too, I didn't see the purpose in making some of them that short.

Kilrogg-WHA
03-12-2008, 09:17 PM
Oh ok, so its auras, not something that I have to keep clicking on every 2 minutes

There's no real details on them yet.

happyhours
03-13-2008, 04:40 AM
The good thing I have found with aura's is that it usually makes you an in-demand class!

Although there is the current debate over the 'twisting', that honestly doesn't sounds THAT bad... Us Knights will be necessary in not only taking the damage, but making sure everyone else can perform at their max aswell!

And we do know that they arn't mere buffbots, as it was stated by one of the Mythic guys =]

HH,

Dagoth
03-13-2008, 05:22 AM
Oh ok, so its auras, not something that I have to keep clicking on every 2 minutes

It's probably worse than that, KotBS are a twisting class, so even if they can just use an aura and forget about it, they will probably be expected to change them every 15 seconds, so as to stack the effects of several auras.

Grathir
03-13-2008, 08:42 AM
It's probably worse than that, KotBS are a twisting class, so even if they can just use an aura and forget about it, they will probably be expected to change them every 15 seconds, so as to stack the effects of several auras.


Twisting every 15 seconds sounds pretty excessive to me. I'd think the aura's would last a bit longer than that.

happyhours
03-13-2008, 12:05 PM
Twisting every 15 seconds sounds pretty excessive to me. I'd think the aura's would last a bit longer than that.

Still I don't see it as being all that bad!

At least it keeps you focused on something. In my somewhat blurred WoW experience as a Human Tank, I'd rather have to concentrate on something like that rather than just "Taunt, Sunder, Taunt, Sunder... Oh wait I did something Sheild bash".

Again, WoW tanking still seemed to be I press 1 then 2, lots... then 3 occasionally.

I like the idea of the Chosen and KotBS being polar opposites; it does add some variety to the mechanic. RvR epic tank battle will have an edge to them now, with Chosen being negative and KotBS being the positive for all around!!!

Makes me glad I'm being a Knight to be honest...

All speculation mind :P

HH,

Grathir
03-13-2008, 01:45 PM
I'd rather it be in 30 sec intervals, the shouts, aura's whatever, that way I can still fight, defend etc etc.

15 sec is just way to short. Lets say you have 3 aura's going and ALL of them are important to the group dynamics, your hitting 1,2,3 defend attack, run run 1,2,3 attack, run, run

You see my point? Unless your sitting in the back of the group with someone blocking attacks for you, then you delegated to a back up role, to which I'd rather not do as a gamer.

I don't mind throwing up the aura's for the group, at the same time I want to be kicking some Chosen's butt as well.

Like people has said, its ALL speculation at this point, and I'm almost growing thin at patience waiting for more info on my favorite class.

happyhours
03-13-2008, 02:15 PM
I agree with that, I'd rather have to choose aura's when the situation demands, not balance a complex pulse system constantly...

But I was just saying that 'twisting' doesn't seem as bad as many people say!

However, as the Tank class for the Empire, our role would never be to be at the back while someone else is blocking the attacks, c'mon we have the biggest armour and showery feathers! We will be blocking the attacks!!!

From this aspect I have alot of hope in Mythic and how they are doing things; hell it all looks good so far, and they sure realise that as a Tank we are going to be in the thick of it, so it shouldn't be too complex or take away anything from teh fact that we will be at the frontest of the front lines.

HH,

Maranatha001
03-13-2008, 02:25 PM
I agree with that, I'd rather have to choose aura's when the situation demands, not balance a complex pulse system constantly...

But I was just saying that 'twisting' doesn't seem as bad as many people say!

However, as the Tank class for the Empire, our role would never be to be at the back while someone else is blocking the attacks, c'mon we have the biggest armour and showery feathers! We will be blocking the attacks!!!

From this aspect I have alot of hope in Mythic and how they are doing things; hell it all looks good so far, and they sure realise that as a Tank we are going to be in the thick of it, so it shouldn't be too complex or take away anything from teh fact that we will be at the frontest of the front lines.

HH,

Yeah exatly.

What I'm expecting from my class: To be on the front lines and take the hits, while juggeling auras/commands and dealing damage like a mother to the other players.

"WAHHHG!!!"
*Sheild bash*
"Hmmm... Wahhhhg just happened little orc?"

happyhours
03-13-2008, 02:48 PM
Thats what its going to be about Marantha001 :cool:

Hahaha again all speculation, but I think the aura's will make the KotBS a definite YES for a good group. Being able to tank and buff to me seems a brilliant combo!

Just need a good regiment to roll with :roll: hehehe

HH,