swords

[talak]

will any classes or races get to use more easten like blades like katanas or tantos because if so it might sway my choice in my character selection

[TheOverlord]

I'm guessing elves.

[Thor123]

The High Elves, since when you have a class named the Swordmaster I am pretty sure that he will be using swords.

Here is a link to the official page: http://www.warhammeronline.com/armiesofWAR/highelves/Swordmaster.php

[Gemini]

Elves don't use eastern-style swords, they use Elvish swords. Theres a thread going on about that already. I doubt any classes will use eastern-style swords unless Mythic decides to do in expansion in one of the lesser-used eastern countries in Warhammer.

[Abraskadabra]

Sorry, no playable ninjas/samurai in war.

[Sockerbit]

I don't know much about warhammer weapons, but I don't think there are any katanas in the old world or the elfish kingdoms.

Sure Nippon still exists but they are far far away and you didn't see much katanas running around in Europe during the middle ages.

[rogue_gamecube]

Even if they never add katana's (such a travesty, there is none), I will wield a katana in spirit... with the one on my wall I take down only for ironic Myspace poses.

:cool:

[Skaejek]

No ninjas. Not even much loot ninja-ing, with the vegas style setup.

[talak]

http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/home/images/conceptart/ceat0307.jpgthese are close with curvy bits. its not eastern but it makes me happy :D

[Misanthrope Prime]

No. Stop being a weeaboo and gb2 Final Fantasy.

[Tharg]

WH is western fantasy not eastern.. so I vote no. Gimme a blade my English ancestors used to wield any day of the week thank you very much.

Not bashing eastern culture, I just prefer my own ancestors military history thats all (although I have a soft spot for middle eastern weaponry, Mmmm scimitars :p )

Edit:- Hmmm those Druchii blades are more like sabers to me than eastern blades, one edged blades with a slight curve to the end, always liked sabers.

[Utakata]

Why is this a POLL?

[linuxnacrot]

Sorry none of the main Warhammer races(or even the lesser ones?) use Eastern Type swords.

[Misanthrope Prime]

Sorry none of the main Warhammer races(or even the lesser ones?) use Eastern Type swords.


Well, the Skaven of Clan Eshin do, as do some of the Easternmost Ogre tribes, but neither of them are playable.


Believe you me, I'd love if GW had more lore on Cathay and Nippon, but that is not to be at the moment.

[Zzulu]

There might be

there are katanas in WoW for example

and CoH

So why not.

[Bloodboil]

i don't think theres much eastern influence in warhammer lore

[Sockerbit]

Why is this a POLL?

Because it's CHAOS!

[CaptainAwesome]

Its not going to happen since WAR is set in a more western influenced world. If you want your eastern experience in mmorpgs theres games like Final Fantasy XI

[Gemini]

I'd still love to see an expansion sometime way down the road with one of the lesser explored races like Nipon or Araby. But until that happens, expect to see very western-style weapons.

[Misanthrope Prime]

There might be

there are katanas in WoW for example

and CoH

So why not.

Are you honestly that dense? CoH is set in the real world- where Japan actually exists and you could probably import a Katana if you so choose. WoW has its head up its at the moment, and there is much less cultural xenophobia than there is in WAR.

[Utakata]

Because it's CHAOS!

*points to sig*

lolololol

That explanation makes me lol

[CaptainAwesome]

Also for the love of WAR no great katanas or we will have High Elf Swordmasters trying to be Sephiroth *shudders* Its worst as it is when you have Shadow Warrior Legolas clones

We all know what happened in a *certain other game* when you give them the hair style, the clothing and the sword to do it in

[Abraskadabra]

There might be

there are katanas in WoW for example

and CoH

So why not.

Because all the classes in WAR use iconic weaponry.
Katanas are not iconic to any of the war races.
Come on, can you imagine an ironbreaker with a katana! :shock:

[Misanthrope Prime]

Katana are also not suited for use against the heavy armor favored in Europe and ergo, warhammer, due to the fact that metal is scarce in Japan and armor was not heavy plate, chainmail at most if it incorporated metal at all.

[Tharg]

Come on, can you imagine an ironbreaker with a katana! :shock:

Mmm I think I just tasted vomit...

[Hisdon]

Speaking of Nippon, I'm not a big warhammer lore guy, but who/what exactly lives out there? Just curious, cause most the races seem to be situated in the Europe/North Africa/North America/South America based regions.

[Zzulu]

Are you honestly that dense? CoH is set in the real world- where Japan actually exists and you could probably import a Katana if you so choose. WoW has its head up its at the moment, and there is much less cultural xenophobia than there is in WAR.

CoH is set in a fictional world, in completely surreal cities filled with werewolves, robots, aliens and superheroes. My point was that it is also a western influenced world, and it still uses asian weaponry. Even ignoring this though, there actually are asian realms in the warhammer fantasy lore, so the weapons from those areas are most likely in transit in the fictional world of WAR. They could be found and looted on mobs, and as such come into the hands of the players.

WoW had no asian continents or realms, so the katana makes less sense in WoW than a potential appearance in WAR. Yet one could be found in WoW anyway.

It's all speculative, but totally probable, guy.

[Hotcakes]

Warhammer is not Animehammer.

[CaptainAwesome]

I'm not your guy, friend

(sorry couldn't resist)

Any who seeing how all the Warhammer weapons will be iconic it will be very unlikely that we will get eastern weaponry

Unless GW are drunk and begin to make a new race

[Misanthrope Prime]

CoH is set in a fictional world, in completely surreal cities filled with werewolves, robots, aliens and superheroes. My point was that it is also a western influenced world, and it still uses asian weaponry. Even ignoring this though, there actually are asian realms in the warhammer fantasy lore, so the weapons from those areas are most likely in transit in the fictional world of WAR. They could be found and looted on mobs, and as such come into the hands of the players.

WoW had no asian continents or realms, so the katana makes less sense in WoW than a potential appearance in WAR. Yet one could be found in WoW anyway.

It's all speculative, but totally probable, guy.
CoH is set in a fictional EARTH, where there is ACTUALLY Japan, ACTUAL Katana and, just like in the real world, actual places where you can buy them. It's Earth, albeit with fake things, but with all the REAL things on earth- including places to buy real or mock Japanese weaponry.


Meanwhile, WAR is not set on Earth. Yes, there is a Faux Japan, Faux China and Faux India... half a world away from all the action. You did not see Katana circulating around Europe during the middle ages, because technology hadn't evolved to the point where long range shipping is easy, not to mention that the world of Warhammer is extremely xenophobic, and that even if you have a katana, you'd need training, different training from European weaponry, to utilize it, and as stated before, it's ineffective against the armor used in the Warhammer Old World.

Warcraft DOES have an Asian continent, complete with Samurai analogues. Never heard of Pandaria?

[Moniker]

Why is this a POLL?
Because polls are awesome.

I prefer german swords to eastern stuff most of the time. Some katanas have been really well made, but theyre just weird.

[Rerisen]

There might be

there are katanas in WoW for example

and CoH

So why not.

Well because foreign looking weapons may be one casualty of the mechanic of making classes only use weapons that are very appropriate to their class and background.

In those other worlds the lore expanse is a little more loose and generic, such that you can just find some Katana like sword off a boss and start using it. WAR adheres to its lore more specifically, in that a Black Orc is not going to pick up that weapon and want to use it over a Orcy weapon. You are not just choosing an Orc to represent you in any fashion you desire, but you are more becoming a Orc with all that attends in the Warhammer universe.

[Bijyu]

if I recall there are quite a few skaven that use things such as nun-chuks, throwing stars, and small asian looking swords.

[Zzulu]

CoH is set in a fictional EARTH, where there is ACTUALLY Japan, ACTUAL Katana and, just like in the real world, actual places where you can buy them. It's Earth, albeit with fake things, but with all the REAL things on earth- including places to buy real or mock Japanese weaponry.

You're grasping at straws here. By your own logic, you're saying you can buy a weapon like a Katana in CoH because there is an asian continent in that world. Well there's an asian continent in the WH fantasy world as well. Where there are eastern influenced weapons. ;)


Meanwhile, WAR is not set on Earth. Yes, there is a Faux Japan, Faux China and Faux India... half a world away from all the action. You did not see Katana circulating around Europe during the middle ages, because technology hadn't evolved to the point where long range shipping is easy, not to mention that the world of Warhammer is extremely xenophobic, and that even if you have a katana, you'd need training, different training from European weaponry, to utilize it, and as stated before, it's ineffective against the armor used in the Warhammer Old World.Most of the weapons in the game are absolutely insanely shaped, based on pure "cool fantasy concepts" and as such would require rigorous and ridiculous training to field them properly if we went by your logic here. Fortunately the game is not based around realism, or proper geographical data.

The high elves for example, have many examples of sleek, elegant blades. Would it really look out of place if they wielded a rune inscripted sword shaped as a katana? I think it would fit right in. If I'm not misstaken, the skaven also use some asian weapons.

I mean, there are already plenty of the "thin variety" of swords in the concept arts. Would any of these (http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/home/images/conceptart/CT1207_39.jpg) guys (http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/home/images/conceptart/013008_CA05.jpg) really look out of place with this http://sunflow.sourceforge.net/gallery/v0054/katana.png

instead of what they already have? I don't think it's too much of a stretch.

With that said, this is about as much as I can argue over a god damn katana, so this is all I have to say on the matter.:rolleyes:

[Misanthrope Prime]

You're grasping at straws here. By your own logic, you're saying you can buy a weapon like a Katana in CoH because there is an asian continent in that world. Well there's an asian continent in the WH fantasy world as well. Where there are eastern influenced weapons. ;)
There's also this thing called the internet in CoH where you can get anything. Not so much. And the difference between CoH and Warhammer is that you can ship anything from Japan to Rhode Island because they have things like international postage and planes. Not so much in Warhammer.


Most of the weapons in the game are absolutely insanely shaped, based on pure "cool fantasy concepts" and as such would require rigorous and ridiculous training to field them properly if we went by your logic here. Fortunately the game is not based around realism, or proper geographical data.

The high elves for example, have many examples of sleek, elegant blades. Would it really look out of place if they wielded a rune inscripted sword shaped as a katana? I think it would fit right in.

I mean, there are already plenty of the "thin variety" of swords in the concept arts. Would any of these (http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/home/images/conceptart/CT1207_39.jpg) guys (http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/home/images/conceptart/CnAT100731.jpg) really look out of place with this http://sunflow.sourceforge.net/gallery/v0054/katana.png

instead of what they already have? I don't think it's too much of a stretch.

With this said, this is about as much as I can argue over a god damn katana, so this is all I have to say

And take note that, with all the training they need for 'cool fantasy concept' weapons, a Sigmarite priest would never be able to use a dwarven hammerer hammer properly. And, if you're using "thin swords exist for elves, so why don't they use katana", I ask you, didn't the French invent the Rapier? Why don't we see the French fencing with katana?

[CaptainAwesome]

In summary it's Game Workshop's Lore and it's up to them whether they want katanas or not, also rapiers were developed by the Spanish not the French. Please let this thread die *cries*

[Gemini]

You're grasping at straws here. By your own logic, you're saying you can buy a weapon like a Katana in CoH because there is an asian continent in that world. Well there's an asian continent in the WH fantasy world as well. Where there are eastern influenced weapons. ;)

Yes, there is an eastern continent, but no player classes are from there, and all player classes use their iconic weaponry for their class/race/part of the world.


The high elves for example, have many examples of sleek, elegant blades. Would it really look out of place if they wielded a rune inscripted sword shaped as a katana? I think it would fit right in. If I'm not misstaken, the skaven also use some asian weapons.

I mean, there are already plenty of the "thin variety" of swords in the concept arts. Would any of these (http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/home/images/conceptart/CT1207_39.jpg) guys (http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/home/images/conceptart/013008_CA05.jpg) really look out of place with this http://sunflow.sourceforge.net/gallery/v0054/katana.png

instead of what they already have? I don't think it's too much of a stretch.


It really would be a stretch. Elves are way to full of themselves to ever use weapons forged by an ingerior race. They are Elves, they pride themselves at being the best at everything they do (whether they are or not). Suggesting that an Elf would use a human weapon is like handed a finely crafted Dwarfen hammer to an Orc.


Any who seeing how all the Warhammer weapons will be iconic it will be very unlikely that we will get eastern weaponry

Unless GW are drunk and begin to make a new race



No need to invent a new race, we already know of the nations of Canthy (or something like that), Ind, and Nippon. However, none of those races are playable in WAR, so don't expect to see them.

[Misanthrope Prime]

And Cathay, Nippon and Ind (Analogous to India and South Asia) are full of humans, so don't expect anything else, though the Skaven clan Eshin is said to be present in Nippon.

[Arcton]

Swordmasters will be using two handed swords, but I don't think they'll be katanas, per se. All the classes thus far are restricted to weapons that are very representative of what they are in lore.

[Abraskadabra]

Swordmasters specialise in greatswords.
Katanas =/= Greatswords..

[Chasington]

I would respect this game less if they put aisan weapons in. They would look out of place, and way out of character, plus I'm not a fan of the asian fanboyism.

[Hotcakes]

I would respect this game less if they put aisan weapons in. They would look out of place, and way out of character, plus I'm not a fan of the asian fanboyism.

exactly.
If WAR ever turns into Animehammer I'll turn my back on it. It's already a shame anime made it's way into the WAR fan art submissions that EAMythic shows in their newsletters.

[Lobster Mooch]

For starters, WoW doesn't have a strong lore, it is bits and pieces of their own and other peoples ideas cut and pasted together to form a very loose world, plus Blizzard have been known to include things in their game just because it is popular, Blood Elves with anime hair anyone? Despite it being absolutly against the theme.

Now why won't HE use a "Katana"? Well, for one you are forgetting the number one thing with Elves, they are arrogant, they believe everyone is beneath them, so why would they stoop to using a Human made weapon? Answer: They wouldn't.

Why wouldn't Dwarves? Well for one, swords and dwarves are not a common mix, plus it would have to be custom made for the height of the Dwarf, ergo no finding one on a mob.

Why wouldn't orcs? Because to Orcs, bigger is better, plus they are more brawlers than martial artists, so they would use it the same way they use a chopper and proceed to shatter the damn thing.

Why wouldn't Chaos? Well, if you were playing a Cathayan who turned Chaos Warrior, I suppose it would be possible, but the Chaos Warriors in WAR are Norsemen and Norsemen don't use Katana.

Why Wouldn't Dark Elves? See High Elves.

Why Wouldn't Empire? Why would they is a better question, first off about the only nation(s) that trade with Cathay etc. are the Ogre Kingdoms and dare I say Nippon etc. The empire armed forces are not trained to use Katana, meaning they would be useless to them, and assuming one wanted to learn to fight the Cathayan way, who says the Cathayans would teach them? Plus it is rumoured that the Cathayan Emperor is a Dragon, so I doubt the temple of Sigmar + Witch Hunters would be too eager to use "unclean" instruments. Also, to Sigmarites the Hammer is a holy symbol, go figure.

[Rerisen]

People need to remember, the classes and races of WAR are meant to be easily identified and 'iconic' on the field of battle.

It is just not iconic to see a Orc charging you flinging some elegant katana around.

As WAR is also a game about Realm vs Realm, there is a theme aspect necessary to making the whole Orc army look somewhat in sync, likewise Dwarfs and Elves. Though there are plenty of ways to individualize your character within his particular race or class, this game is not so much about the individual self-interest and gear lust of a game like WoW, where a central goal is simply to stand around Ironforge and let people inspect where you got your cool Katana sword, Funky fishing hat, and Reindeer Mount.

It's not so much about standing out as being renowned. When someone sees a uber Orc Warrior, he will bear trappings suitably fitting for a Warhammer Elite Orc personality. You will know his uberness without even needing to inspect him, but by seeing he has the top Orc styled accouterments that can be achieved.

This is what they are going for to preserve the animosity between the races and feelings of unity within the races. It would never do for example, for both the top High Elf player in the game and the top Orc to meet on the field of battle wearing the exact same looking Marshall's Armor that they got off some raid zone. It's about status among your own ranks and class, not about a progression battle between the whole server being the end goal.

[Keske]

For starters, WoW doesn't have a strong lore, it is bits and pieces of their own and other peoples ideas cut and pasted together to form a very loose world, plus Blizzard have been known to include things in their game just because it is popular, Blood Elves with anime hair anyone? Despite it being absolutly against the theme.

To start out a post proving yourself to be a clueless fanboy (or should I say anti-fanboy or really there is so many of you that you should get an own word really) isn't a great way to start a post.

And to be honest, Katanas for a european is a very very wide term, seeing how we basicly see every blade with the iconic "katana" shape as a katana I would think people that would want one will find something that is close enough

[Zihark]

To start out a post proving yourself to be a clueless fanboy (or should I say anti-fanboy or really there is so many of you that you should get an own word really) isn't a great way to start a post.

And to be honest, Katanas for a european is a very very wide term, seeing how we basicly see every blade with the iconic "katana" shape as a katana I would think people that would want one will find something that is close enough

Well, it's kinda true actually. They even got laser swords in there. Blizz are known to include lot of things only because them or others consider it funny, i mean, i've lost the count on how many real-life cameo's there are in wow for one..

[Thrakkesh]

Dark Elf blades have the potential to come awfully close.

[Ashrik]

The devs have repeated, so many times, the desire to have iconic looking classes with similarly iconic looking weapons/armor.

I don't see a katana-type or tanto-type weapon fits in with any of that.

I imagine that the best thing you'll get is similar to how Warcraft did it. A random lvl 42 green that no one cares about.

[Grudginglyyours]

Katanas are very distinctive and often culturally associated weapons. Their presence in the game should not come as a surprise if they are integrated because the mythos of warhammer has included the presence on servants, warriors, and ambassadors of the far lands of Cathay. Though I am in agreement with most that we shouldn't see that many of the blades for a few reasons, well mostly because the devs have mentioned in a round about way the fact that they want to avoid adding unnecessary content with the intial game and instead focus of giving the best base game possible. And if the game is a success the entire warhammer lore and mythos is open to plundering for expansion. The border princes(Italy), the lands of Kislev(russia), Araby(Middle East), Cathay(Asia), Lustria (South America), and of course Bretonnia (UK). And from there you could see a host of new gear and weapons, machetes, scrimitars, etc.

Anyway, my mindless rambling degresses....

Another worthless qoute from my library of wothless qoutes, "The last time I saw a blade that shiny and small captain hook was zipping up his fly.", compliments of a random disney employee.

[Ashrik]

I think this thread represents one of the biggest cases of over-thought that I've seen here in some time.

[Keske]

Well, it's kinda true actually. They even got laser swords in there. Blizz are known to include lot of things only because them or others consider it funny, i mean, i've lost the count on how many real-life cameo's there are in wow for one..

It's called easter eggs. It's a widely known thing to do and it has never ever been said as a bad thing. But taking a potshot at wow on these forums isn't exactlly rare, and ofcourse there is alot of things in the warcraftuniverse worth critisizing tobad that people always seem to aim their frustrations towards the things that isn't.

and the "Laser swords" if you had played the game and actually read the lore you would know that neither the argent avenger nor the blasing longsword is in anyway laser swords though they certainly look like em. But then agian trying to have an objective view of WoW on these forums is like convining the leaders of a white power meeting to play a reggae band.

anyhow it really wasn't my point to start yet another wow-sucks rally, but I guess it's inevidible on these boards. maybe I should just ignore the clueless trolls.

[Tharg]

exactly.
If WAR ever turns into Animehammer I'll turn my back on it. It's already a shame anime made it's way into the WAR fan art submissions that EAMythic shows in their newsletters.

Hmm off topic but being an artist I have to refute this somewhat. Anime as an art style is an artistic choice, an artists style of drawing is their own choice usually derived from experimenting or copy some other form of work untill they find what they like and what feels right to them and has become a part of them (my own is a fusion of my childhood basic western cartoon style mixed with anime components, but the result isnt like anime or western comic styles, although it does lean more towards the anime in some aspects. I read alot of anime comics due to having mostly asian friends at high school 15 years ago, I was reading (errr looking at the pictures) DBZ, Yu Yu Hakosho(sp?) comics videos with my friends before anime was even a minor blip in mainstream western entertainment, back then it was considered wierd and way to foreign compared to its western counter part, although the over saturation, censoring and shoddy dubbing or rewriting of alot of the mainstream Anime we westerners get these days has basicly ruined anime in the west and turned it into something alot of people sneer at.)

An artist with anime roots can draw Warhammer however they want, that doesnt change it from being Warhammer in the slightest, the same way an american comic book artist can draw asian video game characters in their western style and those characters are still in essence the same ones.

Dictating what art styles are aloud to be used with certain subjects is one thing that makes me rather annoyed... not getting at you personally its just something im passionate about. And complaining about the art style of fanart submissions as if those that arent in the style a person considers appropriate to the subject are unworthy or shouldnt be considered for praise is like waving a red rag at a bull :p . Once again though nothing personal.

Art is art, and freedom to express that art regardless of subject coupled with style is something every human has a right to... anyway back on topic :p just had to say my peice on that particular part.

But as i said in my earlier post, katana's just dont fit the setting, the same way a steel clad claymore or lucern hammer weilding knight with a giant shield on a horse in full barding wouldnt fit inside a samurai setting. It just doesn't work, and both settings are better off because of it, if it did what would be next?... space alien tentacle demons with crystal ships, or perhaps tigers from the moon with 1950's martians?. Oh wait... theyve done that already :p

[Bork]

Can we make Katana fanwankery threads taboo, like religion and politics? They're just as likely to turn into troll orgies.
Anyway, time to be hypocritical.

Right. Now, Japan exists in the real world, I think most of us can agree on that.
Why then, were the battlefields of Medieval Europe not plagued with hordes of weeaboos waving over worked pieces of far eastern metal around? 'Coz it was bloody hard getting all the way from Japland to Germany back then, with pirates/bandits (depending on the route you took) trying to jump you every half hour, atrocious weather and no such thing as air conditioning, let alone internal combustion engines and supersonic airplanes to get you there. Hell, If I recall, the japs didn't even have wheels back then. Illegal I think. So, you're going to go through all that palaver to trade with some smelly barbarians, what are you going to take with you?
Things they don't have that you can rip them off on, silk for example. Swords? they have swords. They have all kinds of swords, infact, you could say they have swords popping out of their jacksies. And they don't have weeaboos. You take a Katana, at best you'll have someone pick it up as a novelty item, probably won't even break even on it for what you paid for it in the first place. So, you don't take swords, you take something that's going to make that horrible journey worth it.

Now, Let's take a look at the warhammer world. Nippon exists. It's pretty much Japan. Why don't they take swords to the old world? All the reasons they didn't bother taking them to Europe, and then some. The real life Japanese didn't have to get past 12 foot tall monsters mercenaries who's religion is TO EAT YOU, armies of Undead, fearsome sea monsters, multi tentacled monstrosities that would make even the most hardened hentai enthusiasts wince, roaming tribes of huge green thugs who see your death as little more than entertainment, actual honest to Gork DAEMONS, etcetera etcetera. And when you get there, they're even LESS likely to buy the sword you're selling. Half of them don't even particularly like swords, and the ones that do make better ones, 'coz they live for bloody centuries.

You wan't to go through all that? With no real reward at the end? I wouldn't. And judging from the dearth of Katanas in Warhammer, it would seem the Nippos don't either.

As for the Skaven, they're the Skaven. They go over there and nick the things, 'coz Skaven are just that damned good.

Right, readback at least looks vaguely coherent, not bad considering the cold I've got right now. I'll hit submit in a second.

[Tharg]

Right. Now, Japan exists in the real world,

Screenshot or it didnt happen kk...

sorry couldnt help my self :p

[Lobster Mooch]

It's called easter eggs. It's a widely known thing to do and it has never ever been said as a bad thing. But taking a potshot at wow on these forums isn't exactlly rare, and ofcourse there is alot of things in the warcraftuniverse worth critisizing tobad that people always seem to aim their frustrations towards the things that isn't.

and the "Laser swords" if you had played the game and actually read the lore you would know that neither the argent avenger nor the blasing longsword is in anyway laser swords though they certainly look like em. But then agian trying to have an objective view of WoW on these forums is like convining the leaders of a white power meeting to play a reggae band.

anyhow it really wasn't my point to start yet another wow-sucks rally, but I guess it's inevidible on these boards. maybe I should just ignore the clueless trolls.


Yes, Easter eggs are cool (and in WAR they should be WAR easter eggs not things that go against the grain), and I can see people took what I said as a pot shot at WoW, I enjoy the WC universe, but as a parody/comedy, when it takes itself seriously as a rich and detailed world it really becomes a garden variety fantasy story with nothing remarkable about it at all, I mean, back in the days of WC1&2 what really stood out? Was it the story or the humour?
Calling me a clueless troll is a little clueless and troll like of you though as are your assumptions on the community using these forums.

[Keske]

Yes, Easter eggs are cool (and in WAR they should be WAR easter eggs not things that go against the grain), and I can see people took what I said as a pot shot at WoW, I enjoy the WC universe, but as a parody/comedy, when it takes itself seriously as a rich and detailed world it really becomes a garden variety fantasy story with nothing remarkable about it at all, I mean, back in the days of WC1&2 what really stood out? Was it the story or the humour?
Calling me a clueless troll is a little clueless and troll like of you though as are your assumptions on the community using these forums.

Well you obviously either missed the entire point of the story or you just didn't bother to get deep enough into it. to call it a garden variety to be honest I havn't seen a novel or a game with the same theme as Warcraft. at least if you look deeper into the story seeing that it's not just a medival war.

[Browncoat-WHA]

Asking an information-seeking question in a poll is kind of confusing. Honestly, this has pretty much been talked out. Also, the name-calling pretty much takes the cake.

Welcome to the Volcano.

*VOLCANOED with a fiery pit lord thing*