Alliance Poll - Two characters at once?

[Garthilk]

Read the full article here (http://www.warhammeralliance.com/article/war-news/alliance-poll-two-characters-at-once.html).

In this weeks Warhammer Alliance poll we want to know if you have ever you ever played two or more characters at once? While commonly referred to as two boxing, it has been called a great deal of other names as well. How many of you have used a second computer to play a second character?

[ThreeFuries]

It's called DAOC...

if you didn't have a buffbot you were SOL LOL :skull:

[1337mojo]

I use to do that on an MMO called Ragnarok... I had one character have a shop and sell stuff and my other character I would play with..

[Goreth]

I haven't two boxed before. I just have the time to concentrate on one character, let alone two.

I tend to make a single character to the best of its ability's and my skill with the character to optimum. I just wouldn't be able to do that with two or more characters.

[ThreeFuries]

http://www.teamwizzy.com/images/TW-DeskPic2.jpg

That's actually 6 accounts he's got running, the far right monitor has an account minimized running in the background.

[Tykon Roe]

I have 2 boxed in almost every MMO to date. In EQ, I played for whichever of my roomates wasnt online which included from 2-5 boxing =/. That is part of the reason I hated EQ. If your cleric/warrior/chanter wasnt online, you where SOL.

[Zarnax]

I two box almost daily on DAoC.

Please God (or should I say, please Tzeentch?) no more damnable bot requirements!!

[Rohan]

I used to, and still do occasionally on DAoC, but now that my second account is cancelled. I just 1 box on classic again. :cool:

[Shapechanger]

A buffbot is not really 2 boxing.


I ran two in DAoC, a Druid on autofollow open to attack and available to heal... this is in the first year.
Later on I would just park the Druid at a keep - I dont consider that two boxing if one account is just standing there in the background because you don't need to do a damn thing to it but make sure it doesn't LD, and that isn't 2 boxing..

2 boxing is working both at once. Its MUCH easier in PvE, and is very difficult to do well in RvR, you more or less need one automated with a Nostromo at the least.

I dont like 2 boxing in RvR, neither of your characters combined perform as well as just one. PvE is very different, it's quite easy to run 2 or 3 actively there - depending on the classes of course. Druid + Enchanter/Mentalist is quite easy compared to Ranger + Blademaster.


http://www.teamwizzy.com/images/TW-DeskPic2.jpg

That is the worst wall paintjob I have ever seen. It makes my eyes shrivel up in pain.

[miber]

Sometimes back in EQ I'd play two characters, typically mine and my sister's Paladin that I'd used to help power-level myself.

I've also used my friend's shaman as a buffbot in DAoC once or twice, as well as a /level 20 shaman on his account in Thidranki.

Everytime I've done so has been very rarely, and with another person's character/computer. I've never (and will never) actually buy a second computer/account strictly to help level up or to use as a buff bot or anything.

[Avehearth]

Yes,
I had a buffbot in DAoC

[Breigh]

Dual boxing was the only way to go for a while in DAoC.

[Midwinter]

Only in EVE... so I suspect that doesn't count :)

[Garthilk]

Personally I've never had two computers to do so. Let alone the money to burn for two accounts.

[Defektunge]

Never really felt the need to do so. It hasn't been needed (or even all that beneficial) in any of the MMORPGs played. Or maybe I'm just missing out on something?

[LiquidShaDow]

I use to do that on an MMO called Ragnarok... I had one character have a shop and sell stuff and my other character I would play with..
Ditto for me here.

[Vervayne]

Personally I've never had two computers to do so.

If you can run two instances of the game on one computer then you don't need 2 systems.

I've run dual accounts playing DAoC PvE, but never in RvR (cept for loading a buffbot).

[Adendan]

I never dual boxed for DAoC and I did just fine.
Or wait .. once I had 2 accounts in to use a friends Spellcrafter SC my sleeves .. logged her out right after that though .. does that count ?

[Ravene]

never done it

[Sjofn]

I never did, personally. It really did get out of hand in DAoC though.

[Fordel]

Played DaoC, had a bot, like everyone else.

Occasionally ran three acounts, but only for PvE farming. Ran my Warrior with my Shaman stuck to my in RvR though. Played the warrior primarily, while mashing the grp heal key on the shaman ;), but would switch if the situation called for it. IE: The warrior would be following the shaman as a guard/stun bot while I played the shaman.


I don't want to *have* to run two acounts again. No more buffbots please Mythic.

[Murdoque]

I endured people playing two account in DaoC for a long time enough - and because i can t see why one has to pay (and play) 2 accounts just to be competitive i didn t do it (and anyone who played DaoC might imagine which straw i got most of the time - playing a nightshade).
If there is a similar movement in WAR i sure hope mythic just makes accounts where you pay twice the price (labeled one account to rule them all - haha) - this at least would be more honest.
But all the statements at the moment point luckily in another (e.g. more sane and fun sounding) direction.
So where now are my special mushroomscookies......?

[Gharunkal]

I'm not keen on the idea myself, but it isn't my problem to speak it out from the heads of others. To me the general idea feels a bit like cheating, though, you pay for both accounts.

I once heard about a player in WoW, who ran 5 accounts: 4 undead mages and 1 priest, the 5 pc's were attached to one keyboard and since his characters start on the exact same position, he could walk around with them, handling them all the same time. So if he attacked a creature, 4 fireballs were thrown at it from the same direction and often killed the creature very fast. (I played once a mage and could kill elites before they even could attack me, so imagine 4 mages.) And the priest as back-up.

I think it's a bit like cheating, since one person handles the controls of 5 characters at the same time and is only rewarding for him, giving him an 'unfair' advantage over other players (you could argue with me, it's comparisable with 5 manned-groups, but with 5 players, instead of 1. Though then, it's 5 players to get the kill.)

The same idea is on having two-boxes, even then in DAoC it could be frustrating for alot of players to be forced to do so. Therefore I hope (I vaguely remember Mythic saying that buffbots won't be in W.A.R.) that W.A.R. will learn from that mistake in DAoC and will guarantuee that you don't need to have more than 1 account to be competitive.



But for some clearance, even the guy with the 5-accounts bumped upon a mistake. A warlock (if I remember) feared his characters and all of them ended up in different locations, confused and his characters out of control, they got killed one for one and his system was 'hacked' by one simple spell (though annoying on occasions).

[Azrayne2.0]

Yeah, I levelled and used a buffbot back in DAoC, for a limited time.

[Chuck Bronsun]

At $15 a month I can't afford two accounts and keep my wife in the lavish life she deserves. The answer, no.

[Defektunge]

My thoughts concerning the whole thing are pretty simple. If having a second character (buffbot or whatever) is beneficial enough that a considerable part of the playerbase is doing it, then I won't bother playing WAR. I wouldn't for a second consider buying two accounts just to be able to compete properly.

[Fordel]

I'm not keen on the idea myself, but it isn't my problem to speak it out from the heads of others. To me the general idea feels a bit like cheating, though, you pay for both accounts.



It isn't cheating, it's just lame. It only enters the realm of cheating of the botting is an actual bot. A character tied to an automated script that acts on its own. Aslong as its a player mashing the buttons behind the keyboard, its legit, just lame.

[Ibaun]

I used a friend's buffbot for a while in daoc, but hated it as others made me do it in order to stay competitive. I would love it if WAR contains a system where classes able to buff need to be actively played, but I'm not getting my hopes up. Mythic gets a double income if they keep it the daoc way.

[Ethandril]

I have played a few mmorpg's, but haven't 2boxed in one of them nor that i have tryed it.

[Fordel]

I used a friend's buffbot for a while in daoc, but hated it as others made me do it in order to stay competitive. I would love it if WAR contains a system where classes able to buff need to be actively played, but I'm not getting my hopes up. Mythic gets a double income if they keep it the daoc way.


From what little we've been told, Buffs in WAR will be built into each class. The proposed Tactics system is basicly giving everyone half a buffbot and having them decide which buffs they need the most.


I'd be AMAZED if Mythic repeated the Buffbot mistake. Absolutley AMAZED... Because for every acounts they gained from a bot, they probably lost another 1-2 actual players due to frustration/greviances with the entire system.

[Shike]

for PvE in DAoC I run up to 3 toons at same time but its not something I really enjoy to do :S

I pray they dont try to implement obligatory buffbots as it is in DAoC sigh.. thats one of the worst things with DAoC. Without a bot in DAoC, just forget RvR and it shouldnt be that way.

[Kharlene]

It's called DAOC...

if you didn't have a buffbot you were SOL LOL :skull:

That statement is sooooooooooooo frickin' true it's sad... ;) The 2 main reasons why I left DAoC was 1) Most of my friends had left the game to the point my 50+ friends list turned into an MIA list to the point where I was actually amazed if I had 2 friends on at the same... and then 2) Frickin' buffbots... Truly killed PvP in DAoC for me, because even as a caster I still liked to go out there and solo it, it was fun to me taking on stealthers who'd attempt to gank me (though plenty were quite successful, but the challenge made it interesting). But once near every other person and their grandmother had a frickin' buffbot, it completely killed the game for me... The fast RA timers, the ML b.s., leveling arti crap, the slow leveling... all that was trying my patience but I could deal with to a degree, but after all that with the steady increase of buffbots - it just became too pathetic and just didn't want to deal with it anymore, so I left and jumped into WoW the day it was released reuniting with friends I've had for years in DAoC. :mrgreen:

But if this poll is hinting toward the ability of having buffbots through a second account, like in DAoC, think I'll just wind up waving goodbye to it the second it's released. :neutral:

[Dysfinn]

I usually had 2+ characters on every MMO I have played. If Possible, I would get my first chara up to near the max level (end-game). But I'd always hate myself because I would get temporarily bored of playing that character, thinking "What if I had rolled this?" so I end up with lots of characters that never meet end-game :(
Edit: I should have voted no, I got the wrong impression of what the poll was asking.

[seb1024]

played daoc used a bot... that really ruined the game,.. happily now there are classic servers to nerf the bot

use 2 chars in eve...thats called being selfsufficiant

[Excommunicate]

I would never spend the money necessary for two gaming PCs and two accounts for one game just so that I can play two guys at the same time.

[Goatface]

i ran 2 or more toons in eq and daoc.
used nostromo and mouse to control my main while using keyboard for bot, so whenever i would chat i would be talking from the bot :)
while some people run a bot and just spam 1 heal or buff, i normally tried to use the bot for everything it was worth, so on a lot of epic/dragon/ml raid i would nearly get whiplash keeping everything rolling.
never run scripts or macro tho.
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[Shapechanger]

I'd be AMAZED if Mythic repeated the Buffbot mistake. Absolutley AMAZED... Because for every acounts they gained from a bot, they probably lost another 1-2 actual players due to frustration/greviances with the entire system.

Here ya! Id have honestly cancelled due to bots if my accounts werent free. No sense in it.

My problem is now that everytime I want to play Percival I log on and realize I need a bot to do anything, and it frustrates me so badly I just dont log in my bot (And I have a sweet, high RR bot) and instead I make some dyepots for my merchant and log out.

Then I think about playing on Gareth, and get exicted because there are no bots. But then I get sad, because I have no crafters, cash, or friends there.

That's DAoC for me. Have had the bot for years and years. But Ive always HATED the thing. There was just no surviving without it. Bots really made me hate DAoC, where I did hate it.

Wish to god they never had happened. I STILL can't get enjoyment out of my home server cause I have to screw with bots. And the new server is cool, but I dont know anyone there.

It's a catch 22, and sad as hell.

[skaron]

First mythic or who ever else wont get rid of 2 boxing why ? because they would lose out on to much money because like this poll so far about 505 of ppl atleast run 2 accounts.

second buff botting in daoc really didnt bother me . on my scout befor i had a buffbot i was still able to 1vs1 in the frontier fine , and it was funny killing someone then see the flood of text saying blah lost blah buffs. And in running 8vs8 yeah buff bots helped but in most of my groups we had a cleric for buffs anyway.

[Defektunge]

First mythic or who ever else wont get rid of 2 boxing why ? because they would lose out on to much money because like this poll so far about 505 of ppl atleast run 2 accounts.I'm guessing they would lose more players than they'd gain extra accounts. "Tricking" people into having to buy the same game multiple times and paying multiple monthly fees isn't exactly the best way to build good customer relations.

If at any point when playing WAR I should feel that I had to get a second account to compete, or see more than ~5% of all players using multiple characters, I'd just log off and cancel my account. I have no intention of playing a game where a system that results in paying more money gets you a stronger character is in any way supported by the developer. It's bad enough that people can buy gold...

[Shapechanger]

Agreed.

How many people were turned off, or didnt come to DAoC due to buffbots will never be known.

One thing is for sure though, a pretty substantial part of the population hated them, and I mean hated them, back when they first came around. It's clearly not wise to do that again, and like they've said - they won't.

It's just that right now all the people in DAoC who still play are probably people who don't mind having bots, and getting rid of them now would make people angry. So the new servers. Great idea. Some of us just don't want to start over.

But WAR will be starting over. And the absence of bots is a normal MMO choice, DAoC was just unusual in that way. Should have been ranged buffs on bots on normal servers ages upon ages ago.

I know some people who won't even play WAR because of the bot thing, they are just turned off from Mythic forever.

[Doggan]

Did it in UO. 2 boxes each running 2 characters.

[Midnight Templar]

It looks like cheating to me, so no.

[saethone]

i buffbotted in rvr, two boxed in pve...but this was only during the time i had my brother's PC near me

if i got a graphics card i'm sure my second box could handle pve twoboxing but im too cheap to pay for two accounts now

[stopgap]

even if i had the attention span for dual account using, i would never do this, it stinks of treachery and vile action... hmmm (on a side note, those who play chaos are allowed to dual account :p ), Honestly though i couldnt stand the idea of bots, arg... thats bout all i have to say.

[CrusherDestroyer]

I would never spend the money necessary for two gaming PCs and two accounts for one game just so that I can play two guys at the same time.

What he said.

If it's possible to effectively play two characters simultaneously then the developers have failed to create a very deep and engaging combat system.

[Defektunge]

If it's possible to effectively play two characters simultaneously then the developers have failed to create a very deep and engaging combat system.Probably the best point here so far, although I guess you could automate the second character or just have it on autofollow with auras or whatever. But if it's possible to actually play two characters properly then the combat system needs a lot of love.

[Fordel]

Should probably change that to "Two Characters of different classes", because it is entirely resonable to play two characters of the same class that are mirror images of each other, and that wouldn't reflect on the combat systems depth or design.

[NoneSuch]

I just find this idea slightly disgusting , I'm not sure why . Personally I think it should be banned as it's pretty much seems to be a tool people use to avoid having to team up with others. But of course that's not going to happen , as it gets the devs more money :p

[Defektunge]

The way I remember it multiple accounts weren't allowed in WoW, although there were of course some people who did it anyway. Or maybe it was that multiple accounts weren't allowed on different factions on PvP servers... Ah well, something like that. It's not as if Blizzard needs the money anyway ;)

[dwirard]

I don't consider buffbotting as 2 boxing. I have run 2 characters actively when leveling or farming, but in rvr I need to be on top of the game and one character keeps my hands full.

[CrusherDestroyer]

Should probably change that to "Two Characters of different classes", because it is entirely resonable to play two characters of the same class that are mirror images of each other, and that wouldn't reflect on the combat systems depth or design.

It still speaks volumes about the combat design or lack there of. If you can effectively play two different characters, even if they are the same class, whilst dividing all realms of thought, perception, and mobility between them then you are either extremely talented or the combat mechanics of the game are very shallow.

[Bhazrak]

Have a few times, but mainly just for trading items back and forth. Have had a bot or two in some MMO's before though.

[Ares]

On my server on Gareth their is some asian dude running around with 8 accounts. He only farms the new champion dungeon. He has like 5 chanters and some druids and a ment.
He got macro's so they heal and pbea all the time when he isnt moving. So when he passes its a long flashing train with tons of bots and pets all trying to cast when running. He steals your kills. Clean up your camp in seconds. He does that for hours and hours, just farming.

He even tried to sell plat to me for real money. i appealed him a week ago , but yesterday my brother saw him again (he tried to sell plats again to him) So mythic doesnt care that much about this.

I hope mythic makes the battle system this time a bit harder. Instead of just ramming 1 button blindly all the time, I hope they make them more timer based and/or positional based and reactionaly based. press X when enemy does Y etc

[Fordel]

It still speaks volumes about the combat design or lack there of. If you can effectively play two different characters, even if they are the same class, whilst dividing all realms of thought, perception, and mobility between them then you are either extremely talented or the combat mechanics of the game are very shallow.


Why would it? It's just all the actions of a single character, doubeled. No matter how simple or complex the combat system, having identical characters doing the same thing in the same place isn't a reflection of said combat system.

[Warp]

I use to two-box in eq.. Now a days I use my 2 comps to play 2 different games or browse the net on one comp while playing on the other.

[Yaotl]

I use to do that on an MMO called Ragnarok... I had one character have a shop and sell stuff and my other character I would play with..

they call it dual client I think

I did the same thing but I did it with a priest or an Alchemist

and that goes for DAoC

[Joven]

Two boxing? How about three!

[CrusherDestroyer]

Why would it? It's just all the actions of a single character, doubeled. No matter how simple or complex the combat system, having identical characters doing the same thing in the same place isn't a reflection of said combat system.

Is it possible to effectively play two avatars in an FPS game? How about macroing two armies in an RTS game?

If playing two identical characters at the same time means performing the same actions for each over and over again trivially and coming out on top then the combat system is shallow and mindless. You wouldn't be able to successfully play two characters and the same time regardless of class, abilities, and equipment in a competent combat system.

[spirit]

Is it possible to effectively play two avatars in an FPS game? How about macroing two armies in an RTS game?

If playing two identical characters at the same time means performing the same actions for each over and over again trivially and coming out on top then the combat system is shallow and mindless. You wouldn't be able to successfully play two characters and the same time regardless of class, abilities, and equipment in a competent combat system.

...unlesss you set up some kind of complex system involving pulleys and levers which meant that whatever button you pressed on one keyboard was duplicated on the other...or somehow managed to link two computers to one keyboard.

[Darklor]

Many times. In EQ warrior/cleric, DAoC Skald/Shaman, WoW Warrior/priest, and RFO just playing two characters at the same time in different groups.

[khatre]

Team Wizzy is an extreme example of someone using multiple accounts on multiple computers. In the end it didn't work. After a while all the nightshades on the server took special care to kill him every chance they got. Every time his head would pop up messages would spread around alliance chat all over the server and the hunt would begin. after a while Team Wizzy vanished from RvR. You can take whatever lesson you want to out of this but i choose to beleave that ,good or ill, people get what they deserve out of the game. The best actual enjoyment of the game will come out of 1 player 1 character. Anything else is too much like WORK ;)

[tim1983]

I'm guessing they would lose more players than they'd gain extra accounts. "Tricking" people into having to buy the same game multiple times and paying multiple monthly fees isn't exactly the best way to build good customer relations.

If at any point when playing WAR I should feel that I had to get a second account to compete, or see more than ~5% of all players using multiple characters, I'd just log off and cancel my account. I have no intention of playing a game where a system that results in paying more money gets you a stronger character is in any way supported by the developer. It's bad enough that people can buy gold...

I agree with this.. I really feel that two-boxing is the same as cheating giving an unfair advantage over all the other players who is happy to stick with 1 character.. If i see this happening to WAR, well then i will quit it too..

[Rohan]

Team Wizzy is an extreme example of someone using multiple accounts on multiple computers. In the end it didn't work. After a while all the nightshades on the server took special care to kill him every chance they got. Every time his head would pop up messages would spread around alliance chat all over the server and the hunt would begin. after a while Team Wizzy vanished from RvR. You can take whatever lesson you want to out of this but i choose to beleave that ,good or ill, people get what they deserve out of the game. The best actual enjoyment of the game will come out of 1 player 1 character. Anything else is too much like WORK ;)

He actually didn't leave, he rerolled bainshees on another server... which he is still playing and are almost RR10.

However, I agree with you, he is an extreme example of people playing with multiple boxes.

[Hecate]

I played 3 in DAoC. Had a buff bot and a speed bot at one point. Right now I'm only playing one on a classic server though.

[checkthis5000]

Never played more than one character at once, and I'm not very fond of having an alt either. I prefer to have a single character that I can associate with.

Knew a guy in EVE that had 4 accounts, but could only play 3 of them at once since his computer would come to a screeching halt when he kicked up the fourth.

[Muppet]

I ran 2 accounts, not a buff bot. I was the main tank/healer in a group, and yes I could Mez, heal, stun, switch targets to heal and peel off casters all at the same time. There were some limitations and haveing a 2nd person would of helped, but a lot of times I played 2 chars better than some of the healers out there. Just hot keys were easy to use /face /stick ect..

[Fordel]

He actually didn't leave, he rerolled bainshees on another server... which he is still playing and are almost RR10.

However, I agree with you, he is an extreme example of people playing with multiple boxes.


He also just aparently wiped out a entire Albion relic defense with his Bains... soo umm yea, he didn't go anywhere at all in the end.

I used to fight TW when he was still useing his Wizzy's, massive pain in the when he VP bombed people from clip ><

[a33a]

Never played more than one character at once, and I'm not very fond of having an alt either. I prefer to have a single character that I can associate with.

I couldn't agree more, it's a waste of time playing two character's. Just play one and get him as good a posiable, then maybe consider starting a 2nd char.

[damocles]

That statement is sooooooooooooo frickin' true it's sad... ;) The 2 main reasons why I left DAoC was 1) Most of my friends had left the game to the point my 50+ friends list turned into an MIA list to the point where I was actually amazed if I had 2 friends on at the same... and then 2) Frickin' buffbots... Truly killed PvP in DAoC for me, because even as a caster I still liked to go out there and solo it, it was fun to me taking on stealthers who'd attempt to gank me (though plenty were quite successful, but the challenge made it interesting). But once near every other person and their grandmother had a frickin' buffbot, it completely killed the game for me.

Got news for ya, even with a Bot, you can't do much in the way of RVR, especially Solo RVR, without Arties, crafted items that fit with the arties template and Realm Skills. I'm sure there are exceptions with the exceptional players, but for the not so tallented RVR players like myself, buffs means I can see my attacker, usually, before I die.

There are only two ways for Mythic to deal with buff bots.

1. No buffs (or everyone has the same buffs) so no need for buffbot.

2. Ban all but one connection @ IP. That would of course eliminate family members playing WAR at the same time.

I'd stop worrying about the buffbot and worry about how Mythic is going to learn from their screwups in DAoC about making over powered classes and their failure to properly correct it and their overlooking old nerf'd classes that maybe needing to be unnerf'd because the game balanced has change.


Dammy
Midgard/Bors

[eleder]

I have never 2-boxed. I would rather have an account for a second game, than pay double to play only one game.

[Ghenjis]

I would have to admit to two boxing once upon a time. :rolleyes:
I would use my friends wow account to run my new characters through instances. Though it was not quick and easy, it gets the loot I need. Though after the frustration on having to die and run back a few times though lag and mob patrols. I think that those two instance runs are the first and last time.

[Proditoroth]

To me it feels more like a work than a game of enjoyment when you need to have several account to run the show. That is not my aim but I know it is to many.

[Drift3r]

The way I remember it multiple accounts weren't allowed in WoW, although there were of course some people who did it anyway. Or maybe it was that multiple accounts weren't allowed on different factions on PvP servers... Ah well, something like that. It's not as if Blizzard needs the money anyway ;)

You can have mulitple accounts in WoW. In fact it's very easy to do. You cant run two characters from the same account and have them both be onine though. You also cannot group with characters from other the factions. You can group with a character in your faction who is not on the same account as you are. The thing about WoW which deters two-boxing more so then othe MMORPG's is that group XP outside of dungeon instances is split in half so grouping outside of dungeons is not really helpful if all you want to do is powerlevel. If you just want to farm or quest then it's not a big deal but kills from mobs and the XP they yield wil be split in half.

People who two-box do so because grind fest games like EQ1, Lineage 2 or games which reward you greatly via buffs like DAOC have a these game mechanics which reward grouping. In WoW you are rewarded for grouping in dungeon instances and BG's but outside of those two venues you are not. So unless the person in WoW is a farmer you wont see many peope two boxing in that game because if your goal is to power level to 60 then your best bet is to A.) Do group oriented instanced dungeons or kill elite mobs, or B.) Grind on regular mobs by yourself in the outside world. or C.) Do lots of quests and as quickly as you can which can be grouped or not. Questing rewards you more XP then solo or grouped grinding.

[Kinthral]

I've only seen it done in a few games, and when I have seen it it usually hurts whoever they are grouped with.

[Karthos]

Never done it, and I don't have five computers in my house (let alone in the same room!) as that guy's in the picture. I suppose it'd be possible if I used my dad's (and or sisters) laptops, too.

[Orcsoldier]

I have done two boxing with Everquest, DAoC and Eve Online.

[donlep]

my first mmorpg was daoc and i got myself a buffbot account pretty early
in daoc i had 2 accounts(access to about 10)
in lineage2 i had 3 accounts
in wow i had 2 accounts
and in eve i have 3 accounts atm

i really hate being dependent on other people to play so if having more than one account in any way lets me xperience more off the game alone i will have the required # of accounts
that being said i do enjoy it more when im playing with my friends but if im on and they arent i do not want to be limited

[Bear]

No, I have enough trouble chewing bubblegum and walking at the same time.

[Foebane]

I generally only run one but have used a 2nd acct in DAoC as either buffbot or crafting while concentrating more on one character.

[Odan]

I've often played two at once. But the second account has always been someone else's main, whoever the group needs and is offline is who gets boxed. =D Have never actually owned more than one account.

[Karthos]

Is boxing worth it?

[Bluestrike]

I have been powerleveling, playing my druid and another guy's bard while the other guy played 2 (one lev 50) enchanters to level from 40 to 50 (fins in breifine)
even played 3 chars at moments (3 druids and a bard)

Were a guild that came over with free level 25's but once 50 they moved to midgard and I stayd behind having the time of my life as a good druid in RVR :)

[Camyllib]

Yeah I have done it. It is good if you have a buffer healer with a fighter or Range class combined. This I will usually do to help low chars to level up. If there is ingame currency; you almost need additional accounts for trade. This will allow you to have one char building and selling while you are fighting/lvling. That usually comes down to three accounts to play simultaneously. Now will I be running them side by side... rarely as one person said earlier one by themself in PVP or RVR is much better than someone trying to manage two at the same time (unless you can macro commands).

Usually I will only buy two accounts and then use log in on friends/guildies who can't be on.

Who knows though this is a new game! We shall see.

[Demonio Warlorden]

Enchanter on my Desktop and Buff bot on my laptop that heal pet.

[Mr_fizzlepop]

I never used two accounts on any of the MMOs I have played.

I Also agree that heavy use of them would likely discourage a large and well rounded userbase.

[Drusain]

Well I posted yes since I did duallog in DAoC, mostly for powerlevelling/trading.

However if you asked me whether I want to be able to play 2 characters at the same time in Warhammer, I would have to answer no.

[Ruinx]

If you have to use two accounts for any reason, then something is seriously wrong with the game, I'd suggest.

I say this as a person who has used three accounts at once before in DAoC. It was fun, but clearly I shouldn't have been needing to do it, nor even physically able to do it. DAoC just didn't require you to press many buttons, I guess ;)

I hope that in WAR operating one character is such an intense (but not button-hammery) task that you can't easily run two accounts at once.

[Kauhu]

Who hasn't run a buffbot (Never DI bot or something as lame though) in DAOC :rolleyes:

But yeah, never played two characters actively simultaneously

[kushinagi]

As I've said in IRC, any game that forces you to have multiple accounts to actually compete is a steaming pile of manure. Yes it's a strong statement and I stand by it wholeheartedly.

[Makova]

Games are a hobby and source of fun for me. As with everything in life, all things in moderation. This whole thing just sounds too much like work honestly.

[Lionheart]

i have used this method in various games as a :- buffbot / shoper / storage / etc

[Irakaz]

Ive never played two characters at once. Im generally against the practice as people tend to use it for a buffbot character, but then Ive accepted buffs, etc from said buffbots if someone brought one along.

[Dagda]

I haven't double geeked in MMORPG's have played with friends in the same room but thats about it. I personally dont have the "spare" cash to open up a second account just to have another toon run behind my main and keep him or her alive, but I dont knock others for doing it. Thats mory money to the company that is running the game which could mean more expansions and such.

[Cunsar]

I never really liked the idea of 2 boxing, but after played DAoC for 5 years and realizing if I didn't have a bot I was pretty much going to be wipped.

This was only because of course I mainly played Mordred with my infil. that said, a buffbot was the most glorious thing I ever decided to do haha. Not only was the buffbot beneficial but also farming and PLing was much easier...i could run through instances with my necro/sorc/cleric combo and farm seals all day. I think in the first week for the Cats expansion I made over 100p.

Tell me 2 boxing isn't worth it then? :P

[Dwarven_Bullseye]

When I create a character I stick to him. I don't create new characters because that will just be a distraction on concentrating on my main character that is important and usually when I create my character I'm happy with my creation because I created how it looks.

[KeyzerSoze]

Yea buffbots were a must in DAOC.

[moidenv]

i had a bot in daoc when i played up till this year. duel loged cleric and paladin but it was more trobble than it was worth imho.

[trinculo]

Yes. The setup was 4 machines running the same game, 4 different accounts, 4 different characters. Same event

[Neviskio]

I use to do that on an MMO called Ragnarok... I had one character have a shop and sell stuff and my other character I would play with..


same. i had in the background my merchant in vending mode while i was playing my BP

=P

[Chouchou]

Being abble to control two characters at once was one the way mythic choose to make money(no offense) since a lot of players paid for two accounts.
Bufboting in DAOC was really common and really annoying since you couldn't solo in rvr without meeting bufboted players...

Personnaly, I never fall into that trap not because of money, but because i always considered this as cheat. If mythic decide to authorised it and make again the same mistake, I will simply not play WAR.

[Fefner]

Having played Daoc for around 4 years it was a pitty it became a must to have a buffbot but i really do hope they dont allow buffbots in warhammer, restrict buffs (if any) to group only.

[Grumpy]

I have two accounts now in DAoC, and while I CAN buffbot, I prefer not to, simply because it takes away from other tasks. A buffbot is of much less use in the RvR aspects on the classic servers thanks to new range restrictions . Can be useful in PvE if you are short a seer class, but a live player is always preferred.

Before the introduction of the classic servers, when I had a buff bot logged in I never refused to buff other people as long as I had the ability to do so. What's good for the realm is good for me, and not everyone had a second account. For that matter, I when I was ready to log, I frequently buffed everyone around and then allowed the bot to time out (or stuck to some roaming gaurd) so that they would enjoy whatever benefits they could get for some period of time. I've long since realized I was in the minority for such acts.

Dual accounts are useful for lots of things... gear swaps, storage, alts. Unlike some, I like having a range of characters at different levels, allowing me to participate in full RvR or whatever the hot battleground is of the moment. I also like playing a range of archetypes, learning their strengths and weaknesses, which allows me to play my main character better. WoW solved the gear swap problem with their "mail" system (a good idea, by the way).

That's just me.

[[DX]DH]

Kinda did play with two toons at the same time on RF, one was my main (lvl42) and that other was a minner bot i just used to mine for me. But as the wars got hectic getting this guy into the Core (think of it as a gold mine) was proving harder day by day so in the end i had to lvl him abit to survive some of the heat.

Many in my guild had a main and also a crafting toon who would craft mainly high dmg ammo/armor for the rest of us. Gonna be nice to see how WAR works with multiple toons...

DH

[TomA]

I know this is an older poll but figured I'd vote. Had to say yes because I've occasionally taken over my wife's char (or she mine) when one of us had to get up to deal with something. Most times it involved running the chars to someplace safe to log but occasionally it involved a sort of botting while the other was afk.

[Vaylor]

I did in daoc and for the few weeks I played shadowbane. Playing two characters at once actually made pve alot more fun than playing just one. I do prefer games which gain no real benefit from buffbots and such though.

[Shillen]

I find it unbelievable how many people complain about botting in DAoC but then they used buffbots themselves. That's what we call hypocrisy. Believe it or not it is and always was possible to play DAoC without a buffbot, you didn't have to contribute to the problem. If all the people who disliked botting in DAoC didn't bot then the problem would have been a fraction of what it was.

So many people have such narrow views and don't look at how they impact the big picture. It's just like the people who don't vote for the president because "1 vote doesn't matter". It's very frustrating that we live in a world of ignorant people.

[frankthetank89]

I had a friend who had like 5 people up at once in SWG way back in its glory days :cry: The guy had his own 5 man band with a dancing guy in the front. I have never personaly seen other people doing anything like that in any other MMOs though.

[Kareli]

Never heard of boxing before :P

Sounds horrible though :confused:

[DirtyBill]

If WAR doesnt need them there will be loads of people who still do keep bots from time to time just because habit, and its like that bud thats always there and doesnt mind you telling him what to do :D

I hope its not neccessary but you will still see them.

[Dagda]

If WAR doesnt need them there will be loads of people who still do keep bots from time to time just because habit, and its like that bud thats always there and doesnt mind you telling him what to do :D

I hope its not neccessary but you will still see them.

I dont mind seeing them. I just smile because all of the people that own multi accounts means that Mythic is making more money which hopfully means that the game will be around for even longer and it may evan mean they hire more people to get out the expansions faster.

If you dont like people playing with bots then all you need do is not to group with them. Thats how I do it on the RP servers.

[Nate-Clark]

Pretty much as already said...if multiples accounts is SO beneficial that it becomes considered a requirement by a large portion of the player base, then I'm not really interested in the game. I imagine thats going to be a hard thing to overcome however.

[Ezekiel]

Nah i only use one character so he has got my undivided attention!!

[happylad]

Y would u want to use more then one character at a time unless ur a trader that likes to spam alot about sales and stuff.

[darkblade_the_Great]

I dual boxed all the time in DAoC after my wife stopped playing(she was a healer). When she played I didn't need to, but after she stopped playing very often I dual boxed almost every time I played.

[Uuranor]

Yes I have in Dark Age....using the chanter to PL your other toons is priceless :)

Thx Chris :)

[Diavalos]

I ran two DAOC programs on the same machine. I had a minstrel running behind my armsman playing the speed song. I didnt like walking very slowly to my destination. (lazy)

[Soybe]

Never heard of boxing before :P

Sounds horrible though :confused:

I have to agree.. what a waste

[Yeomanly]

I used to run two characters side by side in Everquest for about a year, finally though my Wife became interested and since then we have played many MMO's together. I now have my very own RL buffbot ;)



j/k she plays better than me in PvP

[DarkSnakeR]

It's called DAOC...

if you didn't have a buffbot you were SOL LOL :skull:

sad but true :(

[evanjellyman]

curiosity pretty much always gets the better of me, and ill end up makinga few characters. then after playing for a while ill tend to make my mind up and stick with one.

[Tradamus]

Na, i really havnt "2-boxed" before. i dont feel the need too. dont get me wrong, i wanna play other races/class/whatever, i just like to take and focus on one toon max him out to his full potential or close to it then start on somthing else that intrested me. For me it would be too frustrating to play 2 toons at once i would have intrest in what was going on for both of them and obviouslly couldnt do both at once.

[Soybe]

yea hopefullly there will be so much to do I seriously wouldnt have the time to ... 2 box?

[Markio]

I've never felt the need to 2-box before but then again I never played DAoC. I don't think any game should require you to 2-box and if they do then it is seriously flawed.

[mmofreak]

Never done it, never will... I enjoy playing one character.

[Bloodstorm]

I like leveling up two different characters, but one usually ends up much more powerful than the other. :(

[Rudy]

No, more like 1 for a period of time then another for some time, and then I switch back to the 1st one when I'm bored with the second.

[Duke Serok]

Only game I used a second character to support my main have been eve online, got 2 accounts running on 2 computers, one for scout and one for combat, or one for mining and one for hauling.


None of the mmorpg I played before made me buy a second runner, I played solo or with friends, and once I got tired of my main I made a new character to do the same with.

[sm|te]

http://www.teamwizzy.com/images/TW-DeskPic2.jpg

That's actually 6 accounts he's got running, the far right monitor has an account minimized running in the background.

So little friends...

[In Sigmar's Name]

I never played a second char on anothe comp. because I cant afford a 2nd comp. :-(:-(:-(

[spoonlamp]

Never have, never will.
Took me a moment to actually figure out what this question meant. On City of Heroes I have about 8 alts made of different class (altisis!), but you can only ever play one at a time. Then I realised this is about having more than one account.

Naive? Probably. :)

[Bishop]

The wife and I tend to play MMOGs together, and so I have been known to dual-box from time to time using her account when she was not around. But I have never registered an extra account just for a buffbot or whatever.

[Rannos]

Belaarg! The poll description is deceptive! I thought you meant 'have you ever had an alt' which I responded with 'Well of course! *click yes*' until I reliazed the horrid err of my ways!

[Redgoth]

I played 4 accounts on EVE-Online on mining nights 2 Miners, 1 defender and 1 hauler. Made mining a little more interesting than looking at 1 ship's mining beems for hours on end..hehe. However I don't see the use of it in a PvP game that isnt going into the grindfest direction...

[Ricel]

Me first mmoprg was daoc, and i didn`t need a bot until i lvled a shade, them was a "must have". so yes. but only at daoc. after play eve, swg, wow, thas all.

[Aqe]

Daoc. couldnt play without buffbot.
Then i done crasy things like logon up to 6 chars at same time to do some PvE encounters.

[Arathan]

I regularly play 3 accounts at once while powerlvling alts in DAoC, haven't been into another game enough to have any use for a second account.

Edit: And of course I usually has a buffbot logged in while playing my main.

[serenekaos]

I have two-boxed. I consider it fine in PVE but it's very lame to buff-bot in PVP. I always tried to leave my shaman (Troll shaman :P) somewhere out in the zone where she could be found and killed. Or when I ran my warkibi the shaman was stuck to her rear end.

All I want is WAR to prohibit or limit buff bots.....if buff bots influence PVP then the game will get ruined again.

[Cedia]

Never. It's all skill, baby!

Which is why in today's games I'm usually taking a dirt nap, but victory never tasted so sweet.

I abhor the bots in DAoC. To me it's cheating.

[Stza]

i had a buffbot, among other characters, in daoc on a second account.

[BalorGafdan]

Initally at release I two boxed in DAOC due to my wife's inability to level at the same pace that I did, it wasn't till later though that I picked up a 3rd account when I realized that certain players on guinevere/hibernia weren't godly, they were just buffbotted.

:)

[spoonlamp]

Buffbot! Can't shake the image of a robot following you around shining your armour!

[Timanous]

No i never have is it better or more fun or just the same but with two chars?

[TheLASTjay]

Team Wizzy is an extreme example of someone using multiple accounts on multiple computers. In the end it didn't work. After a while all the nightshades on the server took special care to kill him every chance they got. Every time his head would pop up messages would spread around alliance chat all over the server and the hunt would begin. after a while Team Wizzy vanished from RvR.
I'm sorry to bump such an old post. But I was just alerted to this... and it couldn't have been more humorous. I guess six RR11L3+ toons in alb... and six R9L8+ toons in hib (RR10 any day now!) is now considering a failure. I don't know, I thought ~110 million RPs for myself was ok. I'm really not the chest beating type normally and help out my realmmaters (rather clustermaters since we can access all three realms now!) anytime they are in need, RVR or otherwise if I have the ability. Some of you read VN and know I'm pretty laid back over there considering the amount of stuff I have to put up with (read my site's VN Hall of Fame if you need a morning chuckle!), but this post just struck me.

There are clear advantages to playing the way I do -- but there are also very clear disadvantages that the 'solo' crowd sometimes refuses to see.

I'll run ONE account in Warhammer, just like I did DAOC and WOW, to learn the game -- until I see an oppurtunity\reason to run more than one.

As I always say, remember folks, the purpose of these things is to have fun!

:cool: