Where is all the chappas

[Ununseptium]

So I guess this is like the least played or soon to be played class of the whole game and I was wondering why... can any one tell me why the are soooooo few chappas now my having a chappa as my main has and is wavering as it is tinning our ranks evan more,now I love the chappa the only reason I would play another class is because I am a chaos man and love them so so I want to fit in at the chaos places and cant do that as a chappa so im thinking of being a marauder or dare I say chosen but I will get that figured out in beta but back to my question why so few chappas?...

[Nightsoldier]

Something about the class must be unnatractive to the masses. The thought process of the greenskin and the very way they go about things might turn people off. I personaly am turned off because I dont want to have to deal with any of their grammar.

As a choppa you can go and play in chaos and dark elf tiers. You are not restricted to just your own battlefront.

[Alkarin]

As a choppa you can go and play in chaos and dark elf tiers. You are not restricted to just your own battlefront. yea but he wont fit in is what hes saying. kinda like that kid you see at school reading a book in the corner during lunch time and if u try to talk to him he starts chanting spells from the old DnD

[Jg117]

Yeah.....I dont even know what it is but the Choppa class doesn't appeal to me much. It could just be the fact that the Marauder is completely BAMF.

[Vengance]

I was discussing this with a friend yesterday and we decided that it seems as tho greenshkins as a whole will be underrepresented because they are a bit too familiar.

Greenskins in WAR don't seem to be all that different from those that are of so familiar in that other game *cough*. Being a fan of the TT, i know how different they are, but someone who does not know the Warhammer world sees and orc and the response is just "eh".

I hope Greenskins get some love, or theres a lot we don't know about them, so that they are not so few and far between.

[Jg117]

Greenskins aren't a priority race for me but I still wanna play a Black Orc very badly.

[Ferothul]

Greenskins as a whole have been a very low population race, except for at the beginning when Paul was hyping them a whole lot. The Choppa in particular have been underhyped, and just don't have a shiny, interesting appeal to them like most classes do. They seem to me like Fury Warriors from the game that must not be named, which is not a good thing. On the other side of the spectrum, you have the Black Orc, a massive, cool looking beast that HAS been hyped heavily, so most Greenskins who want to be a orc will be playing him.

I say just go ahead and be a Choppa, as you'll be pretty unique unless more interest is garnered between now and release. And you should fit in well enough in Chaos zones, I wouldn't worry about that.

[Under_World]

Few people are interested in Greenskins in general. It could be how they speak. It could be their single minded need for violence without the romance of serving the whims of dark gods. It could also be that there are few memorable Greenskin characters that a kid in love Warhammer lore might want to style themselves after. Could be a lot of things, but its safe to say Greenskins are likely to be an under represented army in general.

And then there is the Choppa specifically. Those TT players that haven't played an MMO before are unlikely to pick the Choppa. From a Lore perspective; they're a base unit in the Greenskin army ~ a grunt, a pawn, a nobody in the Great Green mass that floods across the landscape. It seems terribly generic. Without much personality, no style, and very very bland.

These people are going to pick Black Orc and jump in with both feet. Black Orcs are the oldest, the biggest, and the best of Greenskins. They're stronger, tougher, and unlike the lowly Choppa ~ they're the Boss. They think this is going to carry over from the TT and the lore into the MMO. They haven't played DAoC or WoW or any of the MMO and don't understand the breakdown of Main DPS and Tank classes. They think they're rolling the "best" melee class, when they're just rolling the Defensive one. They don't know how this will translate out into PvP, PvE, scenario play or world objectives.

[linuxnacrot]

Greenskins in WAR don't seem to be all that different from those that are of so familiar in that other game *cough*. Being a fan of the TT, i know how different they are, but someone who does not know the Warhammer world sees and orc and the response is just "eh".

I don't quite agree, i think that Mythic has done a pretty good job of showing the difference of the Warhammer orcs and all the other generic orcs. The only beef i have with them about Orcs & Goblins is the whole "Orcs grow into Black Orcs" deal.

They seem to me like Fury Warriors from the game that must not be named, which is not a good thing.

I personally liked the Fury tree, it seemed to capture the feel of a berzerk(don't stop attacking or your damage drops considerably). Anyway, like the others said, the main reasons why Choppas are not largely represented is because of their low stature in the TT, lack of an interesting mechanic(the Witch Elves would suffer from this if they weren't practicaly clothless), and the large shadow cast by their Black Orc cousins.

[CaptainAwesome]

I think it's something to do with the Black Orc being more cooler, they just seem to be a superior version of your run of the mill orc so If a player wants to roll an Orc they would go with the meaner and greener Black Orc. As for me I will be rolling a Choppa anyway :rolleyes:

My 2 Awesomes

[Ununseptium]

I think it's something to do with the Black Orc being more cooler, they just seem to be a superior version of your run of the mill orc so If a player wants to roll an Orc they would go with the meaner and greener Black Orc. As for me I will be rolling a Choppa anyway :rolleyes:

My 2 Awesomes

yeah this seems to be it but black orcs wont do much but sit there in all there armour we chappaz iz da real fighten force behind da eenskins besides there is going to be SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO many tanks at lunch it wont even be funny:confused: - :( - :mad:

[Ferothul]

yeah this seems to be it but black orcs wont do much but sit there in all there armour we chappaz iz da real fighten force behind da eenskins besides there is going to be SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO many tanks at lunch it wont even be funny:confused: - :( - :mad:


Correct. Which is an extremely odd occurrence from my experience, as usually it is, without fail, the melee dps dealers that are the most populous classes. However, on this game, it appears that the Chosen and the Black Orc are going to be two of, if not the most played classes.

[Joe Rogan]

What they all said.

The heart of any Orc army are the boyz. Boyz are nothing a lone, but form a Green Tide and you'll mow your foes down like nothing.Obviously anyone playing an Orc would want to be the biggest and thus greatest but due to my loathing of tank classes and furthermore what's been said on the Black Orc's mechanics I chose a Choppa since I love topping DPS meters. There was the Squig Herder alternative but bows, arrows, "pets", and esspecialy being a grot? No thanks.

And I'm not a big WH Fantasy buff but I know my 40k, so I'm presuming a Black Orc is equivalent with a Nob, right?

[Berzerk]

Greenskins as a whole have been a very low population race, except for at the beginning when Paul was hyping them a whole lot. The Choppa in particular have been underhyped, and just don't have a shiny, interesting appeal to them like most classes do. They seem to me like Fury Warriors from the game that must not be named, which is not a good thing. On the other side of the spectrum, you have the Black Orc, a massive, cool looking beast that HAS been hyped heavily, so most Greenskins who want to be a orc will be playing him.

I say just go ahead and be a Choppa, as you'll be pretty unique unless more interest is garnered between now and release. And you should fit in well enough in Chaos zones, I wouldn't worry about that.

I loved playing my fury warrior! And I loved my enhancement shaman even more... the synergy of dual wield melee DPS just feels so alive to me, so much better than a super slow 2-hander or boring spellcasts. Bleh!

Though, I don't deny the fact that I am one of a minority. Most melee I have run into seem to prefer swinging a big ol' 2-hander for massive numbers, or pack as much shiny metal onto their backs as they can without collapsing from exhaustion. The black orc does seem "cooler" as well, especially due to the heavier armor (Which looks TOTALLY awesome), so I do indeed suspect tanks will be a popular choice; at least until people figure out where they can get the bigger numbers. :P

I don't mind playing something that is underpopulated, though. I embrace it, actually, as you tend to get more appreciation for being a rarity, especially if you can play it well. The only foreseeable disadvantage to being underpopulated is neglect by the devs/patches (a hardship well suffered by the shaman community in the game-that-shall-not-be-named in our later stretches as a vastly small and unsung group). I trust mythic not to make the same mistake, however. If anything, they may give us choppas a tiny bit of an edge if we are indeed underpopulated, to encourage/bribe others into joining our ranks.

Either way, underpopulated/underpowered or what have you, I'm playing a choppa, and I trust my fanatical brethren will stick with me on that one. :D

[BobTheOrc]

If I get into open beta, I will try both, I have wondered about this, as I have noticed that there are assloads of Blorcs. I might just roll offensive black orc, as you guys have mentioned, rather counter productive given Choppas will and should, do more damage than a Black orc even if they are offensive spec'd. If the game comes out and I can't get into beta, I'm staying what I know and love. Yes, I love 2 hand. Arms Spec.

[ty-nee]

I will be rolling a choppa, hopefully I can find some healer love ingame.

[Blarfenzo]

It seems anyone interested in melee DPS goes right for the Marauder, they vastly overshadow the Choppa.

[BobTheOrc]

Explain plz?

[Ignorance]

Personally i think the choppa is awesome. While I'm sure their looks may not be appealing to most, or "common" it just makes me want to swing my blades choppa style even more :). But if our numbers are low as choppas, means we can have our own secret parties o.O.
Can't wait to rush out onto the battlefield with my choppa ;D.

Edit: I'm actually glad, from looking at the polls (which isn't a very accurate one compared to how many will play this game) it seems black orcs and shamans would outnumber choppas and squig herders as well, so if this continues i wouldn't mind having an abundance of healers and tanks. It be a great change from what I was used to back in the game that shall not be named.

[lnquisitor]

Why is it every race has a thread saying they will be underrepresented?

[ty-nee]

I think with all the polls, the choppa has a reason for this thread

[BobTheOrc]

wouldn't mind having an abundance of healers and tanks. It be a great change from what I was used to back in the game that shall not be named.

Odd, I love being a warrior, I love massive 2h Axe damage, and love tanking, I love it when I tank well and don't lose aggro more than a few times. :)

[lnquisitor]

The problem is that the Choppa requires a lot of tactical thinking. The fighting mechanic is simple and high DPS but they need to choose who they fight carefully or they die. Orcs and by extension those who like to play them are not known for that type of thinking leading it to be an unpopular class.
The Choppa will have a higher DPS than the Black Ork, but it will also have a lot less armor. Most Ork players would before a lot of armor and less DPS so they can just hit things without thinking.

[Ilneval]

My first alt will be a choppa

[Motiv3]

Personally, can't wait to roll a choppa, always loved doing DPS but past games have never allowed me to do so thus always ended up having to be primarily focused on tanking which im glad to find has been implemented int he form of the black guard.

I don't feel choppas will be under-appreciated heck every class feels that way but i agree with some of the posts that choppa's have to think very carefully on who to unleash their fury on because do it wrong your dead....execute it perfectly, FAT LOOT IN THE BAG :D

Still from seeing some in-game videos of a choppa seem like they are way forward :P

[Ignorance]

I definitely agree with choosing your targets carefully. But after playing a rogue for a couple of years, your learn which targets to pick. I'm not brain dead, and I'll definitely think before I slice :D.

[BobTheOrc]

I think I'll make both Blorc and Choppa. I want DPS, and I want to tank, I want to be able to be the last man standing, and I want to kill everyone.

Some of those are possible with choppa, All, although to a lesser extent, are possible with Black orc.

[Manijin]

Alright, boyz, dis is it. See, us black orcs is da biggest and da baddest, and we looks it, and I tink dats da reason deres gunna be so many of us. But I tinks dat da boyz what plays for da big cleavas and smashas iz gunna get weeded out pretty quicklike. Dey don't know wot it means ta be a rock like da rest of us. Ya see, we black orcz gotta take da hits, an' let da Choppas do da choppin', right? Der ain't nuttin' I likes more dan makin' sure my Choppa buddy can tear up dem stunties by makin' sure da stunties don't tear him up.

Waaaaaaagh!

[Ahramon]

Alright, boyz, dis is it. See, us black orcs is da biggest and da baddest, and we looks it, and I tink dats da reason deres gunna be so many of us. But I tinks dat da boyz what plays for da big cleavas and smashas iz gunna get weeded out pretty quicklike. Dey don't know wot it means ta be a rock like da rest of us. Ya see, we black orcz gotta take da hits, an' let da Choppas do da choppin', right? Der ain't nuttin' I likes more dan makin' sure my Choppa buddy can tear up dem stunties by makin' sure da stunties don't tear him up.

Waaaaaaagh!

Nice orc Maijin. You've been practicing havnet ya.

[Warhammer Tarthir]

Me be choppa second big 'ole Black Orcy first me likey big armer big smashy orc da bestest

:D

[Zoatibix]

After the revelation of WE stealth and a couple of other concerns over the class I'm seriously considering going Choppa.

Might even have a BO tank becuase huge = Tank to me. Will have to see how BG work out when they finally get shown.

[Zalkin]

The thing may be that players don't even see what they want to play, they just look at screenshots and go "Wow look at the chosen i want to play that" same thing goes with Black Orc. Some of them might not even know they're playing a Tank, they just play the games as a damage dealer.

If people start to look for what they want to play, then more people will pick the Choppa. Because i think there is a big different between a Marauder and a Choppa.

[Wihtgar]

Though, I don't deny the fact that I am one of a minority. Most melee I have run into seem to prefer swinging a big ol' 2-hander for massive numbers, or pack as much shiny metal onto their backs as they can without collapsing from exhaustion. The black orc does seem "cooler" as well, especially due to the heavier armor (Which looks TOTALLY awesome), so I do indeed suspect tanks will be a popular choice; at least until people figure out where they can get the bigger numbers.


I figured Choppas could use a 2 hander. Hammerer's can use 2 handed hammers and I figured Choppas could use a 2 handed axe. I dunno, would be cool if they could. I was toying with the idea of either going Hammerer or Choppa. Kind of depends on which side is overpopulated at the start.

[Nubbeh]

One thing could be is that there really isn't much information I have seen about the Choppa. Though I still want to be one as they seem to me as the most fun. I see it as more fun for me :P

[Archangel767]

One thing could be is that there really isn't much information I have seen about the Choppa. Though I still want to be one as they seem to me as the most fun. I see it as more fun for me :P

I agree, there has been very little information as a whole that has been released about the Choppa as the way they play, and even their masteries haven't been released by our lovely programmers at Mythic. I think that this might be one of the main reasons why people aren't flocking to our banner. Mainly because most people don't see the intricacies that could come about from playing a class like the Choppa. I can't think of any examples from the top of my head that haven't already been mentioned, in terms of making this class more complex then simple "Target this one, kill him, get stronger, target next one, kill him, get stronger" that is.

I do agree with the people who have been saying that if the class is underplayed then all the more glory for those of us who do pick them, but I think at this point in class selection it's mostly picking the classes on the way they look and the stuff that's been said about them. I mean, look at (Insert unmentionable game name here) and the way they sell their classes, it's the same for any MMO, RTS, RPG-Based anything really... Methinks a similar thing will come about on this game, as much as I hate to say it.

That all having been said, I like the way they've advertised the Choppa, and I've already decided. I'd decided from the beginning to play a Choppa, just the feel of hacking into my enemies with reckless abandon appeals to me. *Shrug* who knows, maybe some people just don't like that.

[Andrew90]

I'm considering rolling a choppa come release day....

I was thinking about a dwarf engineer but I don't want to stuck at one part of the map all the time. (They are supposed to some kind of "Defensive" ranged DPS class).

I really like the look and the animations of them so far....hoping for some more footage eventually before I'm 100 percent sure though...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=4p_I-H_MTTs&feature=related
http://youtube.com/watch?v=nXpniNlTdZM

[Baconbitz]

how can it be the least played class? the game isnt out yet

[Andrew90]

how can it be the least played class? the game isnt out yet

I think that the white lion is probably going to be the most popular melee DPS class....

....and the Witch elf the most popular on the destruction side.

People just really seem to like elves -_-

I think playing a crazed orc swinging two pieces of scrap metal around sounds like a lot of fun personally :D

[Grimbold]

I think that the white lion is probably going to be the most popular melee DPS class....

....and the Witch elf the most popular on the destruction side.

People just really seem to like elves -_-

I think playing a crazed orc swinging two pieces of scrap metal around sounds like a lot of fun personally :D

Not so sure man. Witch Elf is nice and all, can't go wrong with a half-naked '80s groupie, but personally I think the marauder will win out in terms of popularity. Of course, there does seem to be an increasingly growing population of under aged minors playing MMO's these days (Lucky number 13 anyone?)...We will have to see.

Of course, if I had to pick between the Marauder and the Witch Elf... I'd go for the Witch Elf. Crab claws have their days, but a crazed half naked chick with an '80s haircut flailing around foot long knives has its advantages.

As for Choppas, big rep for da boyz!

Edit for WAAAAAAAAAAAGH!!!!!!

[Nubbeh]

Of course, if I had to pick between the Marauder and the Witch Elf... I'd go for the Witch Elf. Crab claws have their days, but a crazed half naked chick with an '80s haircut flailing around foot long knives has its advantages.

Especially when you are that lonely mid-age man that has nothing better to do :D

[Grimbold]

Especially when you are that lonely mid-age man that has nothing better to do :D

I still have hope. There's always my mid-life crisis ~.^.

In recent news, man has found a sudden attraction to his online Warhammer online character, and has made specific attempts at forming a stable sexual relationship. More after this.

[Qrael]

Few people are interested in Greenskins in general. It could be how they speak. It could be their single minded need for violence without the romance of serving the whims of dark gods. It could also be that there are few memorable Greenskin characters that a kid in love Warhammer lore might want to style themselves after. Could be a lot of things, but its safe to say Greenskins are likely to be an under represented army in general.

And then there is the Choppa specifically. Those TT players that haven't played an MMO before are unlikely to pick the Choppa. From a Lore perspective; they're a base unit in the Greenskin army ~ a grunt, a pawn, a nobody in the Great Green mass that floods across the landscape. It seems terribly generic. Without much personality, no style, and very very bland.

These people are going to pick Black Orc and jump in with both feet. Black Orcs are the oldest, the biggest, and the best of Greenskins. They're stronger, tougher, and unlike the lowly Choppa ~ they're the Boss. They think this is going to carry over from the TT and the lore into the MMO. They haven't played DAoC or WoW or any of the MMO and don't understand the breakdown of Main DPS and Tank classes. They think they're rolling the "best" melee class, when they're just rolling the Defensive one. They don't know how this will translate out into PvP, PvE, scenario play or world objectives.


That is actually a very good point.

[porcu12345]

:shock: wut is chappa?

[Guzruk]

My guess is a typo of Choppa... Yep I think that's probably it, I've been wrong before though.:o

[Silchas]

Why is it every race has a thread saying they will be underrepresented?

Good question, especially when according to some polls, greenskins are THE most represented.

http://warstatistic.net46.net/

[Ununseptium]

:shock: wut is chappa?

My guess is a typo of Choppa... Yep I think that's probably it, I've been wrong before though.:o

lol yeah thats just how I spell choppa

Good question, especially when according to some polls, greenskins are THE most represented.

http://warstatistic.net46.net/

the thread has not to do with the greenskins but with the choppa and at the time of my original post there were a great many less of us

[MrWillow]

Apart from concept, the "stands to be the most single target damage" or w/e it says under the maurader career seems to be pretty compelling. I think another reason is that a choppa doesn't really have anything that makes him "new" in comparison to other MDPSers. It seems to be your "standard" high dmg/low armor class. Nothing more than that. At least to me....

[Silchas]

the thread has not to do with the greenskins but with the choppa and at the time of my original post there were a great many less of us

My point is that you don't know how many there are of "us." Relying on class polls doesn't work because they usually aren't consistent.

[MrCrabclaw]

While I personally like Orcs, their "culture" and the fact that the will probably be one of the least played races, I just find Choppas the most boring class in the entire War class setup. Why? Most becuse their mechanics is nothing new, and most of their armor just seem a little "meh". I heard somewhere that Hammerers and Choppas were getting reworked.
Choppas really deserve that, imo because an orc dps class thats only "meh" in my eyes, are a really sad waste of good prerequisite.

[Grimmark]

They probably been working on the new classes like WL and BG so they dont really have time for the old classes that were probably announced last year or the year b4 that and u never know u just gotta try them its kinda like saying u cant judge a book by its cover:D:D

[Mylar]

I can tell you my reason for lacking interst in the choppa, not sure if it applies to anyone else...

Boring mechanic, or lack of information telling us the intresting hook that will make them different to play.

From what I can see they are just going to be a generic zerk class, build up power as they do damage... yawn.

The other classes have intresting hooks to their mechanics:

Primary ranged dps... build up power as you do damage (look familiar?) but wait.... build up too much, and you blow up.

shaman... balancing favor between two gods.

white lion... a melee pet class?

marauder... mutating arm

ect...

Most of the other classes have a new intresting mechanic for us to fiddle with and a new playstyle to learn. The choppa (from the lack of information so far) seems like just another plain vanilla melee dps class.

That being said, I'll have a choppa alt for hunting down bright mages, but notice the term alt has appeared a few times in this thread already.
We want to go try something new, yeah we may make a choppa as a standby, but there is a noticable lack of intrest.

[Grimmark]

did u read what put there probably working on other classes at the moment so they don have time for he classes that were announced a year or 2 ago and they still have a couple months to fix stuff and put stuff in

[Sathonys]

I was a chaos man only because i extremely loved the looks, but as i began reading about the orcs lore and their brutal/tribal society, always looking for battle, berserking blood thirsty maniacs, i realized GREEN IS DA BEST

WAAAAAAAGGGGGGHHHHHHHH