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Shifte
05-26-2008, 04:22 AM
After playing AOC I can honestly say I've witnessed the worst Chat UI in modern MMO's. It's so terrible that I've met people who've quit after three days of playing because they couldn't see themselves leveling up with a thing like that. You can't:

Make custom channels,
/emote <custom>,
/who,
Change channel colours,
Have different channels in different tabs,
Change the direction you're moving with your mouse while you type (Num Lock),
And not only that. It looks ugly, with every channel being grey or white.

How important is the Chat UI to you? And do you think Mythic should put focus into making a very user friendly one? One of the things WoW has going for it is an excellant social interface - hoping WAR's will improve upon that.

Dyst
05-26-2008, 04:38 AM
I don't think the social interface in WoW is that good to be honest. It is probably better than AoC though.

From what I've heard about guilds, etc. in WAR so far it seems the social interface will be much better than many contemporaries. Hopefully this also applies to the chat.

In any case there will probably be mods available changing visual representations.

Shifte
05-26-2008, 04:40 AM
About wow, I meant that it looks pretty nice, it's customiseable and it's easily modded. The Chat UI.

Edit:

It had a lot of nice -little- features. Shift clicking does a /who, dragging an item into it links it, shift clicking anything in game copy pastes the name into the chat..

Little things. But I find chat UIs to be very important for a social game.

Molnu
05-26-2008, 07:45 AM
I don't care too much about colors or tabs, but "linking" equipment is a huge deal. Being able to dressing room it, and check the stats without putting it up in a trade or typing it all out is a big plus.

Retina
05-26-2008, 05:11 PM
What I love is that you can't get rid of OOC without it magically coming back and random intervals. Then the Guild channel will just go away as well.

So yeah, a functional chat UI is critical. For WAR, there will be tons of things to coordinate. Their Guild UI will help a ton with event scheduling, etc.

Edit: Just played more and the chat situation is atrocious and seems to be getting worse. I know Funcom has a bad record with MMO launches and this one looked ok at first, but the failure of this basic game system is causing no end of headaches.

Shifte
05-27-2008, 03:52 AM
They've put "Chat UI" in the development thread, at least.

Kintanu
05-27-2008, 06:59 AM
My favorite Chat system comes from EQ2. It is the most customizable one i have found to date. EVE has a pretty good one as well. If Mythic can adopt one like these two titles, then i would not be worried about it.

Lev
06-07-2008, 11:52 AM
I'm a fan of the GW and FFXI chat UIs. FFXI didn't have anything special but it could be changed, .dat mods and system color changes, and GW had a good tabbed system. I do like the equipment linker in WoW however because it frees up the trade channel from so much bloated text.

Hopefully they combine them, or do something completely different, for a great UI.

pewpewarrows
06-07-2008, 04:03 PM
You can also be rest assured that I'll personally have a chat addon written and ready on release day, up on CurseForge. I plan on writing most of the basic ones (Actionbars, Minimap, Chat, Buffs, Unitframes, and Castingbar) during the Open Beta so that at least the functionality is there on launch day.

For chat specifically, the functionality I'd want immediately are:


Multiple Tabs
Colors (of both channels themselves and players based on class)
Levels next to player names.
/who
Sounds
Timestamps

Stigus
06-07-2008, 04:07 PM
The chat UI is essential to me, especially in a game that is suppose to be social. IMO it should be as customizable as possible as the chat UI is a lot of times your main information portal. I had multiple chat tabs in WoW, and thanks to mods like prat was even able to color my channels different colors so that I could make the important ones stand out.

Pballs
06-07-2008, 04:14 PM
With the social impact Warhammer is going to have on MMOs, I'm sure they're going to have a fairly simple and customizable social interface. If any lesson can be learned from WoW it's that simplicity=win.

Lev
06-07-2008, 07:40 PM
You can also be rest assured that I'll personally have a chat addon written and ready on release day, up on CurseForge. I plan on writing most of the basic ones (Actionbars, Minimap, Chat, Buffs, Unitframes, and Castingbar) during the Open Beta so that at least the functionality is there on launch day.

For chat specifically, the functionality I'd want immediately are:


Multiple Tabs
Colors (of both channels themselves and players based on class)
Levels next to player names.
/who
Sounds
Timestamps



I like the way you think goodsir. Hope to see those add-ons in the future.

pitty
06-07-2008, 11:35 PM
EQ2 is the king of all kings for chat UI, hopefully the devs take a look at it, im sure they've seen it before anyway.

Changing the font size is important too, wow couldn't do that.

Jonmkl
06-26-2008, 11:19 AM
Hellgate london had the worst chat interface i have ever seen!
You would go to talk and it would be like, you are in trade(ch.78)
(78 channels! how many people could possibly be in each one!)

so literally NO one ever answered... ever, it was like a single player game with network lag when it first came out..

chocola
06-26-2008, 12:18 PM
Changing the font size is important too, wow couldn't do that.

i'm not a WOW fan, but WoW can change font sizes :shock:

i hope it will be an advanced UI, seeing the guild abilities with the calendar etc. it shouldnt be dissapointing.

Yonan
06-27-2008, 01:38 AM
I wouldn't say I'd quit the game because of a bad chat system. However, a bad chat system would be indicative of a game that hasn't learned form other MMOs (*cough* AoC *cough*) and will likely have numerous other similar issues that would add up to me not playing the game.

WoWs chat system was fine, although expanding on it can't hurt. Having it accessible by addons such as WoWs was will let us tailor it how we want it, so long as they do that we should be alright ; ) A chat addon was one of my essential addons for WoW come to think of it, not being able to scroll the chat window was irritating. Along with a number of other little things, colourising names in messages, clickable invites, lots of minor improvements that made gameplay smoother.

logicalmayhem
06-27-2008, 03:29 AM
im sure it will be at least up to wows standards and if on the off chance its not thats what mods are for

Mo0rbid
06-27-2008, 11:29 AM
EQ2 is the king of all kings for chat UI, hopefully the devs take a look at it, im sure they've seen it before anyway.

Changing the font size is important too, wow couldn't do that.

I agree with what you say about eq2.
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you could change the font size in wow

Raccool
06-27-2008, 12:44 PM
Guild Wars chat interface FTW!!!

Czechmate
06-30-2008, 09:20 AM
You can also be rest assured that I'll personally have a chat addon written and ready on release day, up on CurseForge. I plan on writing most of the basic ones (Actionbars, Minimap, Chat, Buffs, Unitframes, and Castingbar) during the Open Beta so that at least the functionality is there on launch day.

For chat specifically, the functionality I'd want immediately are:


Multiple Tabs
Colors (of both channels themselves and players based on class)
Levels next to player names.
/who
Sounds
Timestamps


You forgot the most important one! PIRATE SPEAK!

Greyscale
06-30-2008, 10:42 AM
You forgot the most important one! PIRATE SPEAK!

Wouldn't Orc speak be more appropriate for War? :)

Felland
06-30-2008, 05:22 PM
WoW did a great job with their chat, took them a while to get it where it's was really simple and had everything you needed.

If they can combine EQ2 and WoW's into 1 I think that would be awesome.

Van
06-30-2008, 08:22 PM
You can also be rest assured that I'll personally have a chat addon written and ready on release day, up on CurseForge. I plan on writing most of the basic ones (Actionbars, Minimap, Chat, Buffs, Unitframes, and Castingbar) during the Open Beta so that at least the functionality is there on launch day.

For chat specifically, the functionality I'd want immediately are:


Multiple Tabs
Colors (of both channels themselves and players based on class)
Levels next to player names.
/who
Sounds
Timestamps



You, good sir, are now my hero...

darklinkjr
07-01-2008, 03:43 PM
I agree the chat UI in AoC is terrible. makes the game feel tacky while playing it, very sticky and unsmooth.

something user friendly, something that makes you feel at home and a little impressed would be nice.
im not picking sides but WoW's chat UI was super easy and flexible and it didn't look too bad either.

lets see what they can come up with :)