will female white lions have war lionesses?

[Domz]

same as title.

What do you think should be the case?

[Squizz]

A lioness wouldn't be as visually appealing without a mane imo and we haven't seen any concept art of them so I doubt they are in. I would still like to see the option of choosing your lions gender though.

[Aerania]

We should get to choose! I wouldn't mind having a lioness, but I want the lion because he looks much more distinctive and memorable.

[Sick And Dying]

I would love to have the choice. I myself would use a male lion but i don't see a reason to limit people in any way!

[Okri]

Well, we don't even know if female white lions look different from the males. I'm guessing it'll be the same cat for everybody, but you could always give it a girl's name if you so fancied.

[Aerania]

You could be right, but I'd assume that White Lions were similar to lions in real life. I'm not saying they are, I'm just assuming, but if you wanted a lioness and they didn't include them I would be fine with someone naming their lion with a female name and playing as it was female.

[Domz]

giving a female name to a cat with a mane, feels just ... wrong.

[AgentPaper]

If they're gunna have both, it seems obvious for you to be able to choose which you get, no matter the avatar gender. If they're only gunna have one, it's gunna be male.

[Evander]

A male lion has a great mane that grows with him as he ages and since lionesses can't really replace a likewise system.

I don't really think that such a thing would be a smart move.
And I also don't seem to see the big deal why a female White Lion would upbring a lioness, where male White Lion up-brings a great male lion.
If I am correct only male Lions are grown and trained as War-lions. So putting that kind of effort in lionesses wouldn't make allot of sense.

Overall I say no,
Because of graphical downgrading (coolness factor) and Lore issues.

[Gelst]

SO do you think just because they are female that they wont be able to handle the male lions ? that is pretty mesed up this is the year 2k and i think that a female should be able to handle a male lion or a female lion if they choose.

[Yavvy]

Either let all White Lions choose between both sexes, or just have one lion model (with mane).

[Noli me Tangere]

If they're gunna have both, it seems obvious for you to be able to choose which you get, no matter the avatar gender. If they're only gunna have one, it's gunna be male.

Indeed, if, and I stress if, they have both genders of Lion up for use, it doesn't make much sense to restrict you to one or the other based on the gender of your avatar. Both being available to either avatar gender makes a lot of sense, if, and I stress if, both genders of lion are in.

[oakae]

Sure, the more variety the better. A sleek lightly armored lioness can still look good

[Gemini]

If they have lionesses, it should be an option for both male and female, not just give males the male lions and females the female lions.

[Stiltzkin]

Just change lore and make White Lions alien spores.:mrgreen: Nobody will care about gender anymore and will instead focus on killing.


WAAAGH!

[Okri]

SO do you think just because they are female that they wont be able to handle the male lions ? that is pretty mesed up this is the year 2k and i think that a female should be able to handle a male lion or a female lion if they choose.

Did you read the thread? I doubt this has anythng to do with female elves not being able to handle male lions (if anything, I'd say it was the other way around), but it's more about the aestethics (God, I'm using that word a lot lately). Just so that the pet match their owner, so to speak.
I still doubt there will be lions of both sexes, or rather, that there will be models specific to both sexes.

[Drahcar]

I'm sorry but I have kind of gotten tired of people asking "why cant there be female versions of everything male" (A side note I have just gotten done reading some very sexist posts.... ugh..) I mean I think the female lions would be better because in reality male lions are pretty lazy and they sleep all day but atleast they can kick when needed. If the lore supports lionesses then they better be there then if not... dont force them to change it please... I have friends who wish that Witch Elves could be for male dark elves an assassin but they didnt get their way and I know there are more male specific classes then there are women... but anyways back to the post lionesses would be cool but I dont think it will happen besides the mane is just a symbol of a lion v.v sorry for all the people out there that wanted a lioness out there.

[Jubilie]

I would be fine with a male lion, but if they do add a female I just wanted to point out that no mane doesn't mean it can't look cool. A simple harness with braids, bits of bone what have you hanging off it would give the same general look of what they've done with manes on the male lions.

As for the 'male only' 'female only' classes I think they should stick with the lore, as much as it would kill me to play a male toon I would probably still try the class and if nothing else I know my husband wants to be a WL so I'd still get to hang out with the mean looking kitty!! ;)

[Jg117]

They said they would have distinct markings, and along with that and changes in the armor, I think female lions would work great. Honestly I think the female lion would be scarier looking.

I think they should have female lioness as long as players accept that they wont be as visually customizable.

[Exacerberus]

Well, I'm for gender parity, so I voted to have also these female lionesses... ok??
But please girls, don't exaggerate...: if this game turns into this http://www.hellokittyonline.com/us/ my wrath will rain down on your heads in tons of dark magic doom

[ChosenOne]

Well despite having to physically force myself to vote for no due to the wording of the choice I really do believe they shouldnt allow lionesses for one major reason. Your selection of your lion is a PERMANENT choice.

While in the initial tier your lioness is going to appear similiar to the lion that is going to change later on and you Know there will be a horde of people pissed off that they didnt realize this early on and now want a chance to change their lion. Female lions wont have manes, they will be much smaller and any attempt to undo these natural facts will basically mean that the lioness is corrupted by chaos magic which completely goes against the idea of these lions being raised by a high elf from them being cubs, thus keeping them away from the corruption that has turned some of those in the wild into seriously dangerous beasts.

Normally I am not about limiting player choice but in this case the cons outweigh the pro's. Bad idea for Mythic to allow such.

[Korrupt]

I highly doubt (at least at release) that there will be an option to choose the gender of your lion. That's not to say that I don't think you SHOULD be able to pick, just that I don't see them implementing that right off the bat, if at all.

If i remeber correctly lioness' are actutally the hunter/gatherers of the pride.
so there's no reason you couldn't train one as a warrior.

and i'm sure they could figure out some kind of system to show the growth of the lioness over time just the same as the male without making it Mane oriented.

I'm just saying I could see it, but I'm not holding my breath :rolleyes:

[Aerania]

The main reason I see against War Lionesses is that I can't really see anybody choosing them. It would be cool to see them implemented, it's just... I dunno. The male ones are just far more intimidating in my opinion.

[Kethlian]

So far nothing to indicate the lions even have an option to be female, no matter the gender of the master if that is your poll question...?

I don't care either way, but honestly this option isn't necessary for the game at all. male/female lion you can name whatever you want and roleplay it, if you intend to, that way without anyone reasonably criticising you for it.

[Wild]

For all fairness you should be able to have a choice between lioness and lion.And for people that in the middle of game change their opinion for a look of their pet there could be a clinic where all you have to do is pay few golds and get option to do sex change !

I think that would be brilliant idea and you?

[Addelbreich]

You can customize your lion's appearance at the beginning of the game we hear so why not its gender too? Seems to make sense to me. I don't think it should be specific on whether your character is male or female though. Both male and female avatars should get a choice of a male or female lion I believe.

[Dyst]

SO do you think just because they are female that they wont be able to handle the male lions ? that is pretty mesed up this is the year 2k and i think that a female should be able to handle a male lion or a female lion if they choose.
Sorry, but this made me lol. You are basically implying the same thing from your post saying it is tougher to handle a male lion... Which it probably is, but anyway.

[Covenant Prophet]

giving a female name to a cat with a mane, feels just ... wrong.

This poster possesses wisdom.

[Noah Braveheart]

I'd DEFINATELY choose a female war lion! The mane is going to look like every other 12 year old's war lion's mane, and my war lioness will look more like a leapord, a war leapord, than the common, played out war lion. Plus, with my knowledge of lions, whenever I see a male lion the word "lazy" comes to mind.

I can see myself being more immersed into the game with my uncommon war lioness, I'd definately feel a bit special and like the game just that much more.

[logicalmayhem]

yess if they have time to make the modles and animations.

so if it dont impact on the shipping time thats cool if not i can be a patch

[Fester Addams]

giving a female name to a cat with a mane, feels just ... wrong.
I agree, cats should have proper cat names such as Snugglepuss, Mushka and Paris.
(actually the last two are taken from a name your cat webpage, settings were historical and boy)

[Soultier]

From the info comeing out on the White Lions now i would say probaly not.... All though you will beable too customize your lion so maybe you can make it look more female??? Also at least you now know that White Lions are not going too be a gender restricted class =) which is really cool

[piatt007]

Are you kidding me? Go flip on animal planet and watch if for a while. Female animals in general are generally larger and aggressive when it comes to protecting their young. If I had to choose a lion to protect me, I'd pick a female lion in a heartbeat. Especially if you thought about it in a back story sort of way, the female lion would most likely grow up and feel as a mother to the master almost.

If they don't have female lions I'll be sadfaced.

[Gisgo Elim]

Fluff wise the acquiring of a war lion is based on a random lioness getting killed while protecting it's young, so if the white lion was stuck with a female litter then well he'll probably ask a archmage to put some good old Elven Transgender Magic on one of them.

[MrMammal]

I say they should it would match the overall image more I think to have a female lion paired up with a female

[Sinnahis]

You can customize your lion's appearance at the beginning of the game we hear so why not its gender too? Seems to make sense to me. I don't think it should be specific on whether your character is male or female though. Both male and female avatars should get a choice of a male or female lion I believe.

You are kidding right? You can customize the cat but we can't have female Marauders??? Please say it ain't so. Mythic can't do a female Marauder justice but people are asking if they can have optional kitty kiwis.:evil:

[Cry]

Judging from the link in the general forum, it seems like there is indeed female war lions.

http://war.jeuxonline.info/actualites/19594.html (Second video of the 4)

Unless that of course is a male with a very small mane.

[Bierzgal]

Judging from the link in the general forum, it seems like there is indeed female war lions.

http://war.jeuxonline.info/actualites/19594.html (Second video of the 4)

Unless that of course is a male with a very small mane.
More likely it's a tier 0-1 war lion and the mane will grow while leveling. But I may be wrong :).

[Exacerberus]

More likely it's a tier 0-1 war lion and the mane will grow while leveling. But I may be wrong :).No, you're likely to be right.
Anyway I guess the world won't fall down if WLs won't get female war lions.

[Unwise]

As most lion males have a bunch of 'wives' it makes sense that they would only train up the males for war. There are not enough females to go around. The males presumably fight/kill each other for control of harems.

[foamy4ever]

paul already said that loins would not be gender specific

[SarahsBoyToy]

they said u can choose it's hair cut and so on so what makes a male? the mane, there are some full grown lions in certian parts of aferica that never grow a mane. But back on topic if u can pic its hair style maybe remove the option or hair aorund the neck so it never grows a mane. Then it will look female unless u look at the goodies.:eek:

[Faltina]

I don't see why not... it wouldn't really take much more effort to simply remove the mane from the model and make it smaller or something...

[Techleo]

Generally speaking most of the lore backs up there only being male war lions. The other cubs are generally left to nature where they wither and die. There really is very little remorse for doing so because the killing of the mother generally is to balance the population and not out of spite nor to find a cub.

The premise of singularly male animal relations also extends to several other beasts in the elven arsenal. So I guess I have to vote no because I want to keep true to WAR lore.:-|

[Ursa]

I think you should be allowed to choose between male and female lions, regardless of your character's gender. I'd pick the female over a male anytime as far as lions are concerned, it just makes more sense if you want it to fight. Of course, the lore says otherwise, and white lions are not real world lions afterall, so none of this could apply necessarily. But lion pets aren't common in the lore, but have been made so for obvious gameplay reasons, so there is no reason not to push it a little further and allow females.

I'll be happy with a 'manestyle' option that allows me to remove it.

SO do you think just because they are female that they wont be able to handle the male lions ? that is pretty mesed up this is the year 2k and i think that a female should be able to handle a male lion or a female lion if they choose.

That was funny, considering the High Elves don't live in the 2ks and have very different values from us. Do they even have female White Lions?

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I voted no because of the gender specific pairings.

[The Penguin Hunter]

giving a female name to a cat with a mane, feels just ... wrong.


Who says you get to name it?

[Ghrenn]

Who says you get to name it?

(Mythic does.)

[Farao51]

You should be able to choose when you create it. I mean, its not hard to make both. The difference is that the female lion is a little smaller and dont have a mane.

[emptyskull]

maybe you get the ability to shave them o.0

[Epiny]

(Mythic does.)

Where... I was looking in the videos and they are all just named War Lion.

[Marseilles]

Initially I was dead set on a sorceress but the white lion has caught my eye rather strongly. I need to learn more of the class however. I am familiar with their melee capabilities but can't shake the image of them dealing damage at ranged (I have a WoW Hunter so that's prolly it) despite not having seen anything in that regards. Either way the class looks captivating and I'll certainly create one even if it's an alt. As far as the possibility of a white lioness is concerned, why not? It's a simple graphical change to the skin but at the same time (as has already been stated), the male lion has a much stronger visual impact. The female lions will be comparitively rare, but that in and of itself may justify their existence for the same reason WoW Hunters lust after certain, hard to get pets. So in summation ya, it would be pretty nifty to have the option.

[haspes23]

I seriously doubt that they would give the white lions female lions, for 1 simple reason, there are no female white lions in the TT game as far as I know.

Out of all the games me and my friends played, out of all the turniments we have been to, and out of all the game stores I have hung out in, I dont ever remember seeing one for the Warhammer TT, and Mythic is being extremely awesome about staying as close to the history and foundation of the game as possible.

[Kharlene]

I seriously doubt that they would give the white lions female lions, for 1 simple reason, there are no female white lions in the TT game as far as I know.

Out of all the games me and my friends played, out of all the turniments we have been to, and out of all the game stores I have hung out in, I dont ever remember seeing one for the Warhammer TT, and Mythic is being extremely awesome about staying as close to the history and foundation of the game as possible.

Err... I'm pretty much a WH layman, but after having followed the game for 3+ years, and have been apart of this forum board alone for over 2 years... even I know what I highlighted there in the quote... to be... quite off...

[haspes23]

Some things they have had to add, but if they can stay right on with something as far as I know they have.

Matter of fact the only 3 things that I can think of that they added was the dorf backpack helocopter, the male sorc, and a healer for chaos. As well as just not putting in a lot of stuff, there is a TON of content that is there and it would be a project of more years than they have put into it to get it all in.

So I stand by my statement, they have done a good job of keeping it as close to the original content as possible. You can disagree if you want to, /shrug no sweat off my back.

[Vicious Steel]

By the way...no Lionesses.

Just a big, beefy, eat-your-face--and-other-bits-too male War Lion.

[Colloquial]

It's kind of odd, if you think about it, when with wild lions, the lioness does all the actual hunting and killing while the male mostly just sleeps and bullies smaller males.

These aren't wild lions though, they are WAR lions. Maybe the females are untamable. Maybe the White Lions don't tame them as per tradition.

I like gender differences, and I voted for the fist option, but what do I know?

[Warfare]

I would pick a lioness because they are more fierce when protecting young... But if you grew up with a Lioness whats it to think your not its young or own Kin?