Ironbreaker Axe or Hammer?

[PNasty]

Axe
or
Hammer

[WAR_Priest4449]

oohh tough one
to chop greenskins or crush?
CRUSH!
hammer!

[Ground]

Uhh, I vouch for an extremely dull axe so it leaves wounds that don't heal so quickly =P

[Ayar419]

axe because you can slice their head off

[Durathir]

For Sword and Board I'd go with a Hammer. For 2h I'd go with an Axe.

[Addelbreich]

For Sword and Board I'd go with an Axe. For 2h I'd go with a Hammer.

[Rippah]

Sword and board - Axe + shield
2H - 2H Axe

[Gildrige Axegrinder]

I preference the axe. However, if I happen to be at a point/lvl where a hammer is available that has better stats...then I'd go with a hammer until a better axe came along. In the end it's all about what lets me get the job done with the most efficiency. If it comes down to what I like and what makes me a better tank, I gotta go with what makes me a better tank.

[Bûrri]

Normally I'd say axe + shield.
However, from looking at screenshots , the axes look just a bit too big for my liking, so, depending on how a hammer looks( I can't recall having seen any 1-h hammer pics), I may go with that.
For my ironbreaker, I've no plans to use 2-handers at all.

[Reniji]

Hammer for Shield, Hammer for 2Hands.

I loves mes a good warhammer :dwarf:

[Gorothar]

Hmm, considering I'll most likely go for a defensive tank with my ironbreaker I'll have to say Axe and Shield.

[lnquisitor]

Oh people there is only one answer to this question.
Halberd, for the elite warrior.:cool:

[Arnalerix]

You cannot break much iron with an ax.

So, hammer.

Plus, hammers make a more satisfying THUNK noise when they hit things.

[Rugaard]

In the past I have been drawn more towards axes but playing a Thane in camelot really made me look harder at hammers. I will most likely use a mix of both throughout my career as a IB but will look towards going hammer over axe. It may change but im getting more and more fond of blunt force trauma :D

[Laz]

I didn't know the Ironbreakers had a choice for 2-handers... Well, I probably wouldn't use a two-hander anyway... As I understand, some of the tactics involve the shield specifically and I look forward to smacking my foes in the nose with the shield boss just before I split their skulls... So its the axe for me... If I wanna use a hammer, I believe they have a class designed around that weapon...

[Quiglet Doomhammer]

Always an Axe for me.

If I wanna use a hammer, I believe they have a class designed around that weapon...

/agree

[Bruticus]

My bet is that Mythic has allowed Ironbreakers to choose a 2H mastery. Some tanks strive on keeping aggro by dishing damage out rather than using that other hand for a shield. Tanks like that will still be able to keep the actions of an ironbreaker while dishing the damage of a Hammerer, am I right? ;]

~Brute

[Rugaard]

I dont think the class was built to be a 2 handed tank class. IMO I really cant see why people play tanks expecting to do crazy damage and still be the hardiest of the bunch.

I am sure we will be able to use a 2 hander but I plan on sticking to my shield, living as long as possible, and really annoying as many people as I can.

As for a couple of the previous posts, yes there is a hammerer class but why is that something that would say you best stick with an axe as an ironbreaker? Really its a personal preference as to what you want to use. As I stated earlier I will most likely use both throughout my career and then settle on what will be the best for my style of play at the end.

If we were supposed to use an axe then it would be the only thing we were using or have it be part of our name as in the Hammerer. :)

[Laz]

I believe because the Ironbreaker is the main defensive tank, the shield is required equipment... Thus, no 2-handers for the Ironbreaker...

The 2-hand option was given to the Hammerer for those who want to play more aggressively...

If we were supposed to use an axe then it would be the only thing we were using or have it be part of our name as in the Hammerer. :smile:No, "Hammerer" was the name thet GW gave that class because HAMMERS are all they use... The naming system does not suggest weapons for ALL Dwarf classes... If that were so then what would the Longbeards be using - Their beards?:rolleyes:

[Rugaard]

I believe because the Ironbreaker is the main defensive tank, the shield is required equipment... Thus, no 2-handers for the Ironbreaker...

The 2-hand option was given to the Hammerer for those who want to play more aggressively...

No, "Hammerer" was the name thet GW gave that class because HAMMERS are all they use... The naming system does not suggest weapons for ALL Dwarf classes... If that were so then what would the Longbeards be using - Their beards?:rolleyes:

Exactly , i did not try and say that the naming system would suggest the weapon types that the class was supposed to use, but anyway, it doesn't make sense to play an ironbreaker if u wanted to go 2 H. I have yet to read anything that would suggest they are not able to use a great weapon but i do not see the logic in it. I would think their abilities and whatnot would push them towards attacking and skills that utilize their shields for knockbacks and increased chance to block.

As I have always said in any online game I have played. If you want to dps play a dps class dont try and turn a tank into a dps machine because it usually does not work out the best, play a dps class like the hammerer if you want to dish out the nasty melee damage. It just would not make sense in a game that has clearly labeled Tank, Healer, Ranged dps, and melee dps classes.

Im sure someone will find a loophole or something making a tank class able to do crazy damage but tanks are supposed to be protecting their support and group, not try to just run around killing totally disregarding their job of protection. To me a tanks life is there to be given for the success of his group. Thats my two cents.

[PNasty]

there must be some reason IBs are getting a 2H, and im sure they will have some abilities that focus on 2H so stop bashing 2Hs for TANKS!

[Rugaard]

I am sure there will be something for 2h for tanks but there are more 2 handed oriented tanks like the swordmaster, blackguard and from alot of the vids i have seen the chosen look that way, Some pics and whatnot showed the knight of the blazing sun using a 2 hander as well. So there are 2h tanks out there as far as we know, im just saying the ironbreaker seems to be a 1h and shield tank.

I was just stating my opinion on tanks not bashing the people who like to use 2h and still tank. To each his own, all I am saying is that people who play a tank class should not expect to do a dps classes damage just because they are using a 2h weapon. Tanks are supposed to absorb or deflect damage not dish it out the same as other melee classes.

Mythic has said that everyone in WAR will be doing damage because they didnt want people sitting around in some areas and doing something in others. To each his own with how they play their toon, I have just always thought it silly to use a 2 hander when your supposed to be taking as much damage as possible.

[soneil72]

A good player should be able to switch weapons when the situations fit the needs if you don't have agro why not hit them harder with a 2 handed weapon and when they turn on ya switch back ta 1 handed and shield.

I speak mainly from a PvP perspective as far as PvE goes well what's it matter just kill the beasty.

[jBucket]

Neither...that's right, I went there

[Clangeddin]

I have this feeling that after the class cut news, many will now roll Ironbreaker, give it a two-handed hammer, and pretend it's a Hammerer. :D

[Cookster5]

You call yourselves Dwarfs? AXES!

[DuckyPond]

Not that I'll be playing a dwarf, but I think it's simple...
Axe - I chop I chop I chop ... and so on

Hammer - Wacks on, Wacks Oh noez ;)

I'd go with the latter.

[Griswelda]

Im assuming not, but does anyone know If IBs can Duel weild?

[Pheron Soulflayer]

Normally I'd say axe + shield.
However, from looking at screenshots , the axes look just a bit too big for my liking, so, depending on how a hammer looks( I can't recall having seen any 1-h hammer pics), I may go with that.
For my ironbreaker, I've no plans to use 2-handers at all.
on the ironbreaker and runepriest wallpaper found on war europe.com hes wielding a 1h hammer look pretty cool

[Dryghten]

I have this feeling that after the class cut news, many will now roll Ironbreaker, give it a two-handed hammer, and pretend it's a Hammerer. :D


Precisely.

What else would you have those of us who refuse to play anything besides Dwarves (and refuse to use anything but a 2hander) do? If they do not let dwarves use 2handers (can anyone confirm that the IB will indeed get to use them?), I will be seriously dissapointed.

Oh, and to answer the guy whose name I just forgot who types in green... the logic in going IB and also using a 2hander is that Hammerer was cut.

That is all.

[Rugaard]

Precisely.

What else would you have those of us who refuse to play anything besides Dwarves (and refuse to use anything but a 2hander) do? If they do not let dwarves use 2handers (can anyone confirm that the IB will indeed get to use them?), I will be seriously dissapointed.

Oh, and to answer the guy whose name I just forgot who types in green... the logic in going IB and also using a 2hander is that Hammerer was cut.

That is all.

OK yes this is and has always been a way you can play, but when i posted this it was prior to the class cuts so that logic did not apply before the cuts. Im not against 2h tanking i just see 1 hander and shield being better for surviving in the fray.

[Dryghten]

OK yes this is and has always been a way you can play, but when i posted this it was prior to the class cuts so that logic did not apply before the cuts. Im not against 2h tanking i just see 1 hander and shield being better for surviving in the fray.

What I am praying for currently is to see hints and glimmers of the Hammerer spec in the Offensive version of the Ironbreaker (minus some of the obvious mechanics such as the "anger" combat system).

I am sure there will be some form of mastery which allows Ironbreakers to use 2handers effectively, thus making tanking a secondary (or possibly null) duty, and MDPS the primary function.

[Grimr]

You call yourselves Dwarfs? AXES!

Hey now! A hammer is a proper dwarfish weapon of choice!


1H Hammer & Shield

[xDEKANx]

Hey now! A hammer is a proper dwarfish weapon of choice!


1H Hammer & Shield

Im not a supper Warhammer Fan i am just a fan of the MMO and well, The first trailer of the game with the orc flying into the wall the dwarf has 2 Axe's. Gimli On LOTR has Axes. and the majority of pictures when you type in "Dwarf" on Google images comes up with Dwarfs with Axes. :cool:

lol its all personal preference when it comes to hammer or axe

[Oddwin]

Dwarfs are all about brute force imo, and a hammer fits that better then an axe; so i'll definitly prefer a hammer, although in game im not going to gimp myself to have a hammer instead of an axe.

[Eien]

i certainly prefer to smash a skull than to hack one, but nevertheless, both kills, so doesn't matter XD

[Zax965]

I'm going with hammers.

The axes look ridiculously big to me.

[Pajamurai]

I'll smash and bash and take all those little greenie's cash! such is the way of a good dwarf, hammer it is for me.

[The Penguin Hunter]

I'll have both a two handed axe and a two handed hammer. and I will switch out when ever either one bores me. :smile:

[aloris]

Oh c'mon! This game is called WarHAMMER what do you expect us to use. :rolleyes: Actually I'm going to use axes, I just much prefer the look of an axe over any other weapon. (Besides halberds, and lances. [special reason for the last one.])

[Squibbo]

Whichever one has better stats at my current level. ^_^

I'm not picky. I like smashy hammers just as much as I like choppy axes. So in the end, I will use whichever one happens to be best in my current situation.

[towerguarder]

Hammer FtW!! Its wayy more brutal to smash someone's head in!

[Festo]

imo

the hammer is a baseball bat


and the orc head is the baseball

now who can get a home run?

[Arcton]

Axes all the way

[Drayos]

Lets see... either hit my orc friends toe with a hammer or hit there knee with an axe and have it bounce back. I think that dwarfs should be able to use there gyro copters in combat so they can at least reach there belly.

[Rod1337]

Well it was the fact that they were cutting the hammerer that they gave 2 handers to IB, along with many ex-skills of the hammerer.

Tanks can DPS and some can reach the higher lists, the reason is that although they might not have as much DPS they live longer than MDPS and some have pocket healers.

Anyway the DPS mechanic of the IB is for tanking, is either i tank because i can absorb more damage, or i tank because you are forced to focus on me as i grow stronger and stronger from grudge building.

The difference is as someone mentioned, is a defensive IB has more survival and the other has more DPS.

Both can protect their teammates

[Riptape]

2handed hammer:D The biggest I can find

[VOGEL]

I will have to go with which ever works best, I will use shield and one handed hammer/axe setup most likely. It is all speculation at this point. I will see when I get into the OB.


Now is that any way for a dwarf to act? You only need one arm to swing an axe.....

[SteveX]

I have never seen a hammer for an Ironbreaker, sorry if that disappoints some people.

EDIT: it is possible that with the cut of the Hammerer they will add them, but I have yet to see one drop or be given as a quest or influence reward

[Bhazrak]

Yeah, it's been suggested many times over the past few months, but they've said nothing about it so far. So it's most likely gonna be axes for all.

[Scrump]

well a lot of the Ironbreakers abilities require an axe and would have to be revamped to make it work with a hammer

[Nentisys]

Shield + Axe = chop 'em knees.

2h Hammer = bash 'em kneecaps!

[Marx Redhammer]

A nice big hammer to crush some greeny skulls. But as someone said above, I won't gimp my stats to sue it if there is a better 2h axe. Whatever I can kill the most greenies with.

[Mazari]

sorry to crush dreams but IB can only use Axes atm, maybe later theyll let him use hammers but for now dont hope for hammers