View Full Version : So, you're in for Swordmaster, but...
Willstar
06-30-2008, 02:14 AM
What are your plans for Speccing, and why would you like to go with that branch? This question is especially something I would like to see answered by roleplayers, since a different spec might directly introduce new facets to your characters abilities (definitely) as well as, perhaps, your characters mentality, perhaps more aggresive, calm, or thoughtful?
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Personally I'm really hovering between Hoeth and Khaine. I've never really had much love for magic in game, despite the fact that many of the bizarre auras given to practically any skill make them seem like magic... But, that's aside from the point, since there's a good reason to give each skill a unique little blast of light.
I'd take Khaine because I like the idea of my Swordmaster wielding a 6-foot sword with all the ferocity of a dragon. However, the idea of the path of Hoeth also tickles my imagination and strokes my fancy no less, either. It just sounds like he gets a 'little bag of tricks' for 'just in case' scenes. In terms of online rp, the limits are as limited as your imagination. Perhaps a 'double sword' action for two arrows or so... simple things like that make a character much more interesting, I feel.
Delolith
06-30-2008, 03:21 AM
You do not have any mixed choises though...it is said that you will have the points to at least max out a tree and choose a bit from something other if you want to. So Khaine/Hoeth for me...You might want to edit your poll...although there is such a poll a few lines down...maybe pages.
Delolith
P.S found it : http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32266
Tikuto
06-30-2008, 05:30 AM
For my first character in WAR I will be going hybrid, most likely.
Ashuran
06-30-2008, 05:29 PM
I will walk the Path of Hoeth as the main path for me.
I don't know if I will go the full Hoeth path or walk a little bit down the other paths. But if the skills within the Hoeth path synergize themselves so well that going full Hoeth is worth the skill points, then I will pick full Hoeth over splitting into the other paths.
As for RP, which I am very into, this is how I look at the Swordmasters of each path:
1. Khain path focus Swordmaster: If Paul describes Swordmasters like proto-jedis, then the Swordmasters of Khaine are like Annikan Skywalker, before he turned evil of course... These swordmasters are aggressive and battle focus; they concentrate on the enemies in front of them and on how to win the frontlines that they are in. They are powerful, intimidating, competitive, and confident.
2. Vaul path focus Swordmaster: If Paul describes Swordmasters like proto-jedis, then the Swordmasters of Vaul are like Yoda. These swordmasters are calm as the spring in the mountain and still as the thousand year great oak. They are calm, patient, and protective; always thinking about how to protect others from harm first, whether physically or mentally.
3. Hoeth path focus Swordmaster: If Paul describes Swordmasters like proto-jedis, then the Swordmasters of Hoeth are like Obiwan. These swordmasters are sharpen mind strategist who possess great leadership skills, and miraclous tacticians who can shift the tides of battle. They fight more with their mind than with their bodies. They are inquisitive, wise, quick-witted, and charismatic.
Delolith
06-30-2008, 11:46 PM
I will walk the Path of Hoeth as the main path for me.
I don't know if I will go the full Hoeth path or walk a little bit down the other paths. But if the skills within the Hoeth path synergize themselves so well that going full Hoeth is worth the skill points, then I will pick full Hoeth over splitting into the other paths.
As for RP, which I am very into, this is how I look at the Swordmasters of each path:
1. Khain path focus Swordmaster: If Paul describes Swordmasters like proto-jedis, then the Swordmasters of Khaine are like Annikan Skywalker, before he turned evil of course... These swordmasters are aggressive and battle focus; they concentrate on the enemies in front of them and on how to win the frontlines that they are in. They are powerful, intimidating, competitive, and confident.
2. Vaul path focus Swordmaster: If Paul describes Swordmasters like proto-jedis, then the Swordmasters of Vaul are like Yoda. These swordmasters are calm as the spring in the mountain and still as the thousand year great oak. They are calm, patient, and protective; always thinking about how to protect others from harm first, whether physically or mentally.
3. Hoeth path focus Swordmaster: If Paul describes Swordmasters like proto-jedis, then the Swordmasters of Hoeth are like Obiwan. These swordmasters are sharpen mind strategist who possess great leadership skills, and miraclous tacticians who can shift the tides of battle. They fight more with their mind than with their bodies. They are inquisitive, wise, quick-witted, and charismatic.
I think the path of Hoeth would go mostly to Jedi like Yoda...that have limitless use of the force. Path of Hoeth is boosting your magic knowledge and magical abilities. So these Jedi would be the ones that have a very knowledge of the force and also amazing mastery over it. If you see Yoda is like a spiraling little ball of murder because every move he is doing is propelled by force. I think Yoda would be a Hoeth master;)
On the other hand Obiwan would be Vaul. Patient, strategic, protective etc...Not very offenssive...still capable of manipulating force...but nothing like Annakin or Yoda if you get what I mean;)
Delolith
Kier Rhonwen
07-01-2008, 03:10 AM
I think the path of Hoeth would go mostly to Jedi like Yoda...that have limitless use of the force. Path of Hoeth is boosting your magic knowledge and magical abilities. So these Jedi would be the ones that have a very knowledge of the force and also amazing mastery over it. If you see Yoda is like a spiraling little ball of murder because every move he is doing is propelled by force. I think Yoda would be a Hoeth master;)
On the other hand Obiwan would be Vaul. Patient, strategic, protective etc...Not very offenssive...still capable of manipulating force...but nothing like Annakin or Yoda if you get what I mean;)
Delolith
I agree with your Jedi interpretation, and would like to inquire when my Swordmaster will get a lightsaber as it would seem quite handy to have against steel ?
I voted Path Of Khaine, because my logic is that if I am not going to be a popular target anyway I may as well be hitting harder rather than bolstering my defense.
I am in a ( light ) RP guild, and my character will - when I finally finish my story - be a jolly bloodthirsty sociopath with a special connection to Khaine.
Delolith
07-01-2008, 03:50 AM
I agree with your Jedi interpretation, and would like to inquire when my Swordmaster will get a lightsaber as it would seem quite handy to have against steel ?
I voted Path Of Khaine, because my logic is that if I am not going to be a popular target anyway I may as well be hitting harder rather than bolstering my defense.
I am in a ( light ) RP guild, and my character will - when I finally finish my story - be a jolly bloodthirsty sociopath with a special connection to Khaine.
You need to remember that Swordmasters are not just someone that trains then off he goes. They are guardians of the Tower of Hoeth...and guardians of the Loremasters (mages + archmages) of Hoeth. Pretty much their bodyguards. When Tower of hoeth needs to send an emmisarry to deliver a message a chosen Swordmaster does the job. They are ascetic...they are monastic...they are wise. And they train all this time well not in Kung-Fu but in Swordmastery...which means they are doing it like no other person in the world. But, enlightment comes from excessive excersise and leads to spiritual renewal. Like they say...."How can you control your blade, if you cannot control your mind and body". That does not mean you are not proud maybe arrogant etc. But I doubt after so many decades even centries of training you can be a sociopath...and even more...bloodthirsty. High Elves shun showing their emotions or allowing them to override them due to the fact that they believe they are becoming like Dark Elves like this. And among those people...a Swordmaster is the most ascetic and modest of all (wise too). Do not forget that in order to go to the White Tower of Hoeth you are judged by the Tower itself. If you are looking for knowledge then you are allowed to enter by it magical barriers. If you are not judged worthy you cannot gain tutilage as a Swordmaster or Loremaster. Ahh...and you do not have a social life too....you belong to the White Tower of Hoeth...you are an instrument...even of death if it is needed. You are respected by the other High Elves of course when you are out of the Tower for some assignment...for values like your training...endurance...mastery...wisdom...and status.
Delolith
Kier Rhonwen
07-01-2008, 11:08 AM
You need to remember that Swordmasters are not just someone that trains then off he goes. They are guardians of the Tower of Hoeth...and guardians of the Loremasters (mages + archmages) of Hoeth. Pretty much their bodyguards. When Tower of hoeth needs to send an emmisarry to deliver a message a chosen Swordmaster does the job. They are ascetic...they are monastic...they are wise. And they train all this time well not in Kung-Fu but in Swordmastery...which means they are doing it like no other person in the world. But, enlightment comes from excessive excersise and leads to spiritual renewal. Like they say...."How can you control your blade, if you cannot control your mind and body". That does not mean you are not proud maybe arrogant etc. But I doubt after so many decades even centries of training you can be a sociopath...and even more...bloodthirsty. High Elves shun showing their emotions or allowing them to override them due to the fact that they believe they are becoming like Dark Elves like this. And among those people...a Swordmaster is the most ascetic and modest of all (wise too). Do not forget that in order to go to the White Tower of Hoeth you are judged by the Tower itself. If you are looking for knowledge then you are allowed to enter by it magical barriers. If you are not judged worthy you cannot gain tutilage as a Swordmaster or Loremaster. Ahh...and you do not have a social life too....you belong to the White Tower of Hoeth...you are an instrument...even of death if it is needed. You are respected by the other High Elves of course when you are out of the Tower for some assignment...for values like your training...endurance...mastery...wisdom...and status.
Delolith
That is all true as the official lore of Swordmasters, but the thing about RPers is : we are a nutty bunch and make up all kinds of crazy background stories ! :D
High Elves are a noble race of declining numbers and strong familial bonds, but I am pretty sure in RP circles you cannot swing a squirrel without hitting an Asur raised by lions, wolves, Humans, Dryads, Druchii...
In my particular RP case, my Swordmaster is a young guy marked by Khaine since birth to be his conscienceless bloody hand of justice within the Warhammer world.
With his unnatural aptitude for weaponry he has trained at a remarkable rate under the tutelage of his parents estate guard commander, who - this being Saphery - is an inactive Hoeth trained Swordmaster.
In addition to absorbing all he can from this Swordmaster, he is trained by Khaine himself when he visits him in his dreams.
Still writing the action parts so not spoiling here, but as you expect he ends up joining the Lost Guard ( guild ) to cut a swathe as the aforementioned bloody hand of Khaine.
Starting as a lowly level 1 with no proper armor and barely any abilities, he has never trained formally nor ever even seen the White Tower Of Hoath !
Sacrilege ! :p
Nothing at all wrong with a traditional Swordmaster background , but I expect if you can track down some Swordmaster RP biographies that a whole lot of them will circumvent or at least gloss over the part where their character spends hundreds of years training in Hoeth and achieving total mastery of their emotions.
There is a reason why the Star Wars series starred the completely un-Jedi Jedi Anakin & Luke rather than the countless actual Jedi around them - people prefer the exception to the norm !
Hope that was expressed in a way that made some sense. :D
Delolith
07-01-2008, 11:50 AM
That is all true as the official lore of Swordmasters, but the thing about RPers is : we are a nutty bunch and make up all kinds of crazy background stories ! :D
High Elves are a noble race of declining numbers and strong familial bonds, but I am pretty sure in RP circles you cannot swing a squirrel without hitting an Asur raised by lions, wolves, Humans, Dryads, Druchii...
In my particular RP case, my Swordmaster is a young guy marked by Khaine since birth to be his conscienceless bloody hand of justice within the Warhammer world.
With his unnatural aptitude for weaponry he has trained at a remarkable rate under the tutelage of his parents estate guard commander, who - this being Saphery - is an inactive Hoeth trained Swordmaster.
In addition to absorbing all he can from this Swordmaster, he is trained by Khaine himself when he visits him in his dreams.
Still writing the action parts so not spoiling here, but as you expect he ends up joining the Lost Guard ( guild ) to cut a swathe as the aforementioned bloody hand of Khaine.
Starting as a lowly level 1 with no proper armor and barely any abilities, he has never trained formally nor ever even seen the White Tower Of Hoath !
Sacrilege ! :p
Nothing at all wrong with a traditional Swordmaster background , but I expect if you can track down some Swordmaster RP biographies that a whole lot of them will circumvent or at least gloss over the part where their character spends hundreds of years training in Hoeth and achieving total mastery of their emotions.
There is a reason why the Star Wars series starred the completely un-Jedi Jedi Anakin & Luke rather than the countless actual Jedi around them - people prefer the exception to the norm !
Hope that was expressed in a way that made some sense. :D
Yeap you made a lot of sense however it gets boring when the exception you are saying becomes the norm;) I am tired of seeing sons of Eltharion...or half brothers of Alith Anar and second nephew of Tyrion if you get what I mean:) It is boring to have someone predestined to become special from the start. I much prefer characters with ordinary starting profile that they develop into something special in their lives from their efforts. Now those are true heros to me...not the ones with divine guidance since birth or the the ones with birth priviledges.
Damn I wrote an example story and I pressed by mistake the back button and got erased. Ok here we go again in a short version:)
Imagine a normal HE child with very good physique and mental abilities in general that showed some good potential. He looses his family to a raiding DE party and gets captured. However, he is saved from an HE ambush upon the DE party which totally whipes their warband and they free the child. The child alone and bitter swear an oath of vengeance for the death of his beloved ones. He prays to Asuryan, the patron deity of HEs for guidance and comfort. But Asuryan does not answer him. Angrily, he changes the target of his prayers and seeks assistance from the god of war Khaine in order to fulfill his vengeance. At some point he sees in his sleep a White Tower so tall...that it was almost unnatural. So he sets "sail" in order to find this tower and its secrets...a task huge by itself. So the child managed to reach the White Tower of Hoeth and ask for refuge and studenship. He is accepted and he starts his training as a Swordmaster due to his excellent physique. At the early years, he was nothing special among the other Swordmasters (if you can say that for any Swordmaster) but his burning desire for vengeance lead him to try so hard that he became one of the finest Swordmasters in Ulthuan. His tutor saw his secret feelings lurking inside him and tried to sooth his pain with words of wisdom and excessive training. However, in his sleeps the anarchic words of Khaine were always there to remind him his purpose. So one day in a mission outside the Tower in which he was supposed to escort some very valuable scrolls along with a very important Loremaster and a few silver helms they get ambushed by a big raiding DE party. The battle was fierce and his commrades fall one after the other...while he is sewing undiscribable death to his enemies. At some point he looses his senses and wakes up standing on the back of a tree looking at the massacre something caused. After some examination he finds out...that this massacre was caused by him in the most brutal way that not even Dark Elves could leave their victims after years of torture. Puzzled and scared by himself he leaves the tower in secrecy (since they think he is dead as well) and sets to find more answers and to fulfill his secret and bloody vengeance. That is when he joins the Lost Guard etc etc;)
I hope you like the little story...these kind of characters intrigue me more I have to admit than characters with god given right of excellence;)
Delolith
Kier Rhonwen
07-01-2008, 12:38 PM
Cliched - whatever do you mean ?! ;)
Even in a nice light RP guild like mine, I ( like many others I imagine ) am pretty much constrained by my RP comfort zone - which in my case is pretty much easygoing, upbeat, simplistic with an unquenchable appetite for destruction. :cool:
I like your biography story a lot, I just don't do intensity or intrigue well myself.
Quips, puns and a hearty dose of "we shall make potpourri holders of their skulls" is about as much RP as I can manage without preparation. :D
Delolith
07-01-2008, 12:40 PM
Cliched - whatever do you mean ?! ;)
Even in a nice light RP guild like mine, I ( like many others I imagine ) am pretty much constrained by my RP comfort zone - which in my case is pretty much easygoing, upbeat, simplistic with an unquenchable appetite for destruction. :cool:
I like your biography story a lot, I just don't do intensity or intrigue well myself.
Quips, puns and a hearty dose of "we shall make pot pouri holders of their skulls" is about as much RP as I can manage without preparation. :D
Actually this is not my biography...it is a made up story I just made up for you to use if you liked it...or maybe for a few tips you could use that is all;)
Delolith
Velryn
07-01-2008, 01:11 PM
I've got a pretty good excuse for a Khaine swordmaster. Pretty much is like he is a normal Swordmaster devoted to Hoeth and Asuryan before he starts having visions of an elf with a terrible sword. He realizes that this is Aenarion the Defender and the Sword of Khaine. He tries to ignore it but the pull towards the blighted isle becomes worse and worse (this is a fully trained SM btw). Eventually he takes up the task of guarding the Altar of Khaine for one month. He goes to the blighted isle and returns to the mainland of Ulthuan a different elf. Vicious and aggressive he acts blindly unlike the masters of Hoeth that taught him martial discipline. His trainers though are unwilling to completely exclude him from there order and he continues to live on. The idea with this is to maybe have leveled to 30 or 40 or something as Hoeth, then do a little RP event and respec Khaine or something. Or it could be before the training to start Khaine.
Delolith
07-01-2008, 01:36 PM
Actually it is not that bad to follow the path of Khaine as a Swordmaster. Think of it as a more offenssive martial training. You do not pray to Khaine to gain its benefits...but you do believe in his purpose in battle and war...so you do chant to him when you fight. You are not a paladin of a God...and so you do not need a connection to him. I just made up the story in order to give a nice twist to it...a Swordmaster following the path of Khaine doesn't have to be a devotee to him;) But I do like your story Velryn;)
Delolith
Yes, I think it is important to remember that High Elfs don`t become "followers" dedicated to a certain god (except in a few cases of course). Instead they try to understand how a certain aspect of a god applies to their situation. For instance, how can Khaines fury and bloodlust be intergrated into the fine and precise art of swordmanship without reducing it to barbarism? That is a thing for a swordmaster to meditate about...
For RP background I will avoid "Dark-elfs-killed-my-family" like the plague. Too many of those around. That goes for the other races as well. I rather have a conflicting personality, with a search for my true path - although I think this borders on what an mmo can handle RP-wise. Something like this:
A second son of a noble family. Born to be better than 99% of the elven population. Expected to excel at everything he does, which he do - untill he joins the ranks of the guardians of Hoeth. Here he learns that a good soldier is not about being the best and that the best guardians do what is necesarry rather than what brings much glory. A man torn between the expectations of a powerfull family and the obligations of a brotherhood - between the golden chains of leadership and the unreconised fight for a free world.
That is my idea of RP (and why I have not yet tried to RP in an mmo ;)).
Ashuran
07-01-2008, 06:28 PM
My Swordmaster's background story will be:
Have an archmage for a mother, and a shadow warrior for a father.
Raised by my mother, and never knew my father.
Blood of a warrior in body, wisdom of Hoeth in mind.
Master of the sword in hand, I fight to defend my land.
I will unfold the rest of the story as I RP and play the game.;)
Denalon
07-02-2008, 11:52 AM
I like what i see from the hoeth tree but i will at least put a decent bit into khaine. I am just not a fan of the shielded tank style, but i love swordmasters. So hybrid for me.
murkrow
07-02-2008, 12:05 PM
My Swordmaster's background story will be:
Have an archmage for a mother, and a shadow warrior for a father.
Raised by my mother, and never knew my father.
Blood of a warrior in body, wisdom of Hoeth in mind.
Master of the sword in hand, I fight to defend my land.
I will unfold the rest of the story as I RP and play the game.;)
Are you ever going to explain how a Nagarythe highlander met, started a relationship and conceived a child with a scholar from the inner realm, only to abandon her and his son?
Is the father dead?
Ashuran
07-02-2008, 03:00 PM
Are you ever going to explain how a Nagarythe highlander met, started a relationship and conceived a child with a scholar from the inner realm, only to abandon her and his son?
Is the father dead?
Some centuries ago, a young shadow warrior followed his superiors in a mission to hunt down some witch elves that infiltrated the elven land in order to steal a powerful elven magic artifact. They tracked down and follow these dark elf thieves into the inner kingdom. At the same time, a young magess (Not yet an archmage) was part of the group that was entrusted with the duty of guarding this powerful artifact in a white tower, which the witch elves were targeting.
The witch elves successfully infiltrated the white tower and stole the artifact, and also assassinated a few inexperience mages in the process.
Shamed by the failure of her entrusted duty, the young magess followed her superiors to chase down the witch elves and hope to retrieve the artifact before the witch elves take it back to their king. On the way, the archmages who were chasing the witch elves ran into the shadow warriors who were hunting the witch elves. Together, the high elves devised a strategy and intercepted the witch elves.
Upon interception of the witch elves, a blood battle broke out. After hours of intense fighting, the witch elves were annihilated and the high elves emerged victorious. The artifact was retrieved, but with prices of injuries and casaulties.
The young shadow warrior (father) was gravely injured during the battle. Fortunately, the young magess (mother) was nearby and used her healing magic to save his life.
This is how they met. And as their emotions and bond through battle drove them both, their love started to blossom in the spring of youth.
Although the shadow warrior returned to his home and the magess returned to hers after this incident. He would visit her to nurture their love whenever he was not bond by responsibilities.
However, the young magess knew that their love would be forbidden by the masters of the tower and she would do well that hide it from the eyes of the world.
As the years went by, with their skills grown and love matured, a son was born from this secret union. Inherited the blood of a warrior from his father and raised by his mother in a tower of Hoeth, he would become a Swordmaster dedicated to Hoeth. And the time for him to know his father and defend his land soon draws near...
Willstar
07-02-2008, 03:40 PM
That actually sounds decent enough to go ahead as a story that'll work. But still, it somehow doesn't quite... click. I'm not sure, possibly because the father is a Shadow Warrior... Personally, I'd have gone for something a little less... unlikely, like a member of the Swordmasters or so, who went along to help retrieve the artefact, and have the son trained by said member of Swordmasters as well as by mother in ways of magic and sword.
But still, your character, your rules. :D
Ashuran
07-02-2008, 04:08 PM
That actually sounds decent enough to go ahead as a story that'll work. But still, it somehow doesn't quite... click. I'm not sure, possibly because the father is a Shadow Warrior... Personally, I'd have gone for something a little less... unlikely, like a member of the Swordmasters or so, who went along to help retrieve the artefact, and have the son trained by said member of Swordmasters as well as by mother in ways of magic and sword.
But still, your character, your rules. :D
Of course it clicks. Girls like guys who are strong, tough, and relentless; same goes for elves. :)
Denalon
07-02-2008, 05:50 PM
I'm not sure, possibly because the father is a Shadow Warrior... Personally, I'd have gone for something a little less... unlikely, like a member of the Swordmasters
First off, let me say i like the story idea. It sounds great and would be something interesting to rp and to rp with someone in that type of story. As to the quote i used, it kinda loses the spirit of the warrior thing if you go with Sword master. Granted they are warriors, but they are warriors with extreme self control and emotion blocking. The shadow warrior doesn't hold back emotion quite as much so the true warrior nature is better displayed as one of them over a sword master. It also brings a good facet to the characters personality as a sword master, but that's my opinion.
ColdPhoenix
07-03-2008, 09:39 AM
I must say that I really like how casual discussion turns into RP discussion so easily and that no one has any problems with it. I enjoy the community here. :) Oh, and I like the backstories so far, though I'm inclined to agree with Delolith. The mundane that becomes exceptional is far more exciting than the exceptional... staying exceptional. My backstory will reflect this and I'll write it once I finally decide on class in the Open Beta. :)
Remiel
07-05-2008, 06:02 PM
I'm choosing The path of Khaine as I have always been a fan of offensive style of martial art (I do karate and really do the offensive part but am good at the defensive as well)
But I would like to be a really fast Sword Master who dodges everything thrown at him and attacks so fast that no counter can be done that'd be a true swordmaster sure as sure
ollebolle
07-06-2008, 03:30 PM
Im going mostly Khaine with a little bit of Hoeth to make the ultimate DE killing machine!!!
Grayald
07-07-2008, 08:58 PM
It really depends on what skills fit my character concept. I go for what fits my concept, so it oculd be any combo of the 3.
I'm building a character. Not a character sheet.
Amonodel
07-10-2008, 09:22 AM
Primarily Khaine, Hoethe secondarily.
Amonodel will be an old elf (well, advanced middle age, anyway). Having been born just after the second most recent Darkie invasion, and having fought in the one 300 years ago, he has grown weary of constantly losing ground, of fighting just to retain what is left. He longs for the old days, of the glory of his people.
So now, he leaves the Tower and his task of protecting the mages, and goes forth to cut-down the enemy before any more of our legacy is lost. Realizing that it is a losing battle, he cannot but try.
Do not go gently into that night of Chaos...rage, rage, against the dying of the Light! (With apologies to Dylan Thomas)
Saija Rii
07-22-2008, 02:17 PM
I will walk the Path of Hoeth as the main path for me.
I don't know if I will go the full Hoeth path or walk a little bit down the other paths. But if the skills within the Hoeth path synergize themselves so well that going full Hoeth is worth the skill points, then I will pick full Hoeth over splitting into the other paths.
As for RP, which I am very into, this is how I look at the Swordmasters of each path:
1. Khain path focus Swordmaster: If Paul describes Swordmasters like proto-jedis, then the Swordmasters of Khaine are like Annikan Skywalker, before he turned evil of course... These swordmasters are aggressive and battle focus; they concentrate on the enemies in front of them and on how to win the frontlines that they are in. They are powerful, intimidating, competitive, and confident.
2. Vaul path focus Swordmaster: If Paul describes Swordmasters like proto-jedis, then the Swordmasters of Vaul are like Yoda. These swordmasters are calm as the spring in the mountain and still as the thousand year great oak. They are calm, patient, and protective; always thinking about how to protect others from harm first, whether physically or mentally.
3. Hoeth path focus Swordmaster: If Paul describes Swordmasters like proto-jedis, then the Swordmasters of Hoeth are like Obiwan. These swordmasters are sharpen mind strategist who possess great leadership skills, and miraclous tacticians who can shift the tides of battle. They fight more with their mind than with their bodies. They are inquisitive, wise, quick-witted, and charismatic.
As an big fan of Star Wars, I approve these comparisons.
And by the way, will be Path of Khaine (Hoethe secondary), maybe. I am more of a fan of Swordmastery then Magic. Don't get me wrong, I love Obi Wan, but I am just not good enough to be him. :smile:
Odiamh
07-22-2008, 05:12 PM
My Swordmaster "Odiamh" will be Hoeth, because I love hybrid styles and prefer a 2H weapon over sword and board.
For RPing it will be due to the fact that he feels more connected to a 2H weapon seeing it as a thing of beauty, not for its killing potential, but seeing it as a perfect balance of melee attacking and ability to transfer his magic through choosing his own feet and swift blade to avoids his foes attacks rather then take them with a shield. (Still working on it...)
Ninjitsu
07-30-2008, 12:27 AM
I would like mine to be Vaul. I like the idea of being in the front line able to absorb some damage as well as magical damage.... yet being able to wield a great sword when needed. ;)
I know Swordmasters going down Vaul might not be as good as a tank as say an Ironbreaker, but with the right stats and playstyle, i think they can be potent.
faeral
08-06-2008, 01:58 PM
"faeral was retarded as a child, sent to the tower of hoeth to get 'fixed'. he never made it."
i'll be a hybrid build, mostly hoeth.
Sanjo
08-13-2008, 09:08 PM
Defensive tank for me, I am a big fan of tanking and the background lore of SM interests me. Also, I am a fan of melee mages and have always wished for a defensive one, so Vaul/Hoeth it is for me.
Freddeh
08-15-2008, 01:18 PM
Vaul with some Hoeth thrown in...if I'm going to be a tank class I'm going to be a tank class...of course having some nice buffs and such thrown in helps too ;)
Xaxas
08-15-2008, 07:09 PM
Khaine leveling, Hoeth for PvP.
Hoeth seems to be what swordmasters will be best at anyways, an anti-magic tank.
Fight fire with fire eh?
Thought the tempetations of going full khaine will be great =).
Ilion
08-16-2008, 03:38 AM
I'll be going for a mix of Vaul and Hoeth, because it both suites my play style and my character's RP.
Ilion's (my Sword Master) back story is that he is one of the younger sons of a noble family from Caledor. Whilst skilled with a sword and the arcane arts, he's completely outshone by his oldest brother who will be taking over the family. Never being able to live up to his brother's image like his father wishes but also torn by his love for his family, he grows up with bitterness in his heart despite his generally kind nature. After his brother is injured during his first battle as a Dragon Prince of Caledor, Ilion's father goes into a rage over the worry for his eldest son and takes it out on Ilion. Ilion responds in an equal fury, due also to the condition of his brother and how his father has treated him, and storms out after his father disowns him .
Now travelling across the regions of Ulthuan with only his sword and the clothes on his back, Ilion joins a caravan of travelling performers as a bodyguard. His silent rage keeps him distant from the other travellers for several months but after being convinced into performing a sword display for the children of the caravan, Ilion finally begins to open up, and he becomes a favourite with the children.
Disaster strikes however when the caravan becomes caught up in a skirmish between two small parties of High Elves and Dark Elves. The Druchii manage to overpower their kin and Ilion is thrown into a blind rage when he witnesses one of the children under his protection brutually struck down. Managing to kill one of the Druchii, Ilion is over-whelmed by the others and injured due to his rashness. The Druchii are not a race to offer a swift death however and Ilion is tortured and left to bleed to death. It is then that a Sword Master, who had been carrying a message for the White Tower and who had also stumbled into the battle, intervened. With supreme calm, the Sword Master cuts down the remaining Druchii and saves Ilion's life.
The Sword Master stays with the caravan while their injured recover and tends to the remaining Asur wounded as best as possible. Ilion, now in a state of shock and shame, sinks into depression after realising that it was his inability to keep his rage in check that led to his defeat. The Sword Master, sensing Ilion's feelings, comforts him and allows Ilion to realise that his kind nature is who he truly is, and not the rage that he burdens himself with. After fully recovering and the caravan making it to the next Asur city, Ilion decides to leave with the Sword Master for the White Tower in the hopes of becoming someone who can truly protect others. After being accepted as a student and years of training, war is again rising in Ulthuan and thus Ilion sets out to fulfil his destiny as a defender of his people.
Weezheat
08-18-2008, 07:32 PM
I was thinking heavily of doing a Swordmaster alt and I am pretty shocked with this poll. does nobody plan on going Defensive/tank spec? Oh yes.. 2 hander DPS :confused:
More action for me, I suppose..
Blood De
08-19-2008, 03:44 AM
Hey can I be an albino Blackguard that switch sides?
kidding kidding...
Delolith
08-19-2008, 03:53 AM
Hey can I be an albino Blackguard that switch sides?
kidding kidding...
Who said you cannot have albino pale skin? Maybe white long hair too?;) You copy cat you....!!
Delolith
Tingol
08-19-2008, 06:38 AM
I'll be going for a mix of Vaul and Hoeth, because it both suites my play style and my character's RP.
Ilion's (my Sword Master)...
Great rp story, low key yet engaging. Good work.
Marlaander
08-19-2008, 07:55 AM
Ceyledir (my SM) grew up just outside of Tor Elyr in Ellyrion. He grew up in a modest home. His mother makes and sells high quality clothing in the city and his Father raises some of the most coveted horses in all of Ulthuan drawing the attention of even the best Reavers in the province. Growing up, Ceyledir helped his father full time raising and training the horses and because of this he feels at home on the back of a horse. He has a very special bond with his personal steed, Goldenwind. He also feels much more at home on the rolling golden hills of Ellyrion than in a large city like Tor Elyr.
He was physically more impressive than most of his peers growing up and as he began to reach young adulthood, he began participating in competitions and games. He quickly began to excel with the sword and at foot races. His best friend was quite the contrast, he was smaller in stature and seemed to excel at intellectual pursuits and magic. These things seemed to come to him almost effortlessly. During a festival one summer, a visiting Archmage was very impressed by two young elves, Ceyledir and his friend. The archmage suggested that they take up training at the White Tower. After a long discussion with his family, Ceyledir decided to make the trip to Saphery to the White Tower to become a Swordmaster.
In the early years at the tower, he missed life in the steppes and hills of Ellyrion but his friendship with his friend from home kept him strong. He excelled as a Swordmaster thanks to the dedication and hard work he learned working with his father. Over the hundreds of years since he has been a Swordmaster trainee, he has become a force to be reckoned with. In his class, he has become second to none with the blade and with the help of his friend, he has begun to understand and utilize magic to his advantage in battle.
Now that the Druchii are invading, it is time for him to show his worth. Assigned to protect his best friend in battle, they set out to push back the invading forces and defend all of Ulthuan.
Ilion
08-19-2008, 09:33 AM
Great rp story, low key yet engaging. Good work.
Thanks ^.^
I was thinking heavily of doing a Swordmaster alt and I am pretty shocked with this poll. does nobody plan on going Defensive/tank spec? Oh yes.. 2 hander DPS :confused:
More action for me, I suppose..
Don't worry, some of us are going defensive too! You won't be alone protecting the squishies =D
Secutor
08-21-2008, 05:57 PM
I'l probably go Khaine or Hoeth, I really have to see the abilities in live game before I make my final decision.
Datura
08-21-2008, 06:23 PM
Khaine fits my mentality in most situations. Generally I like to focus on one thing at a time and do it damned well. I'm something of a perfectionist.
Hoeth is what I tend to become when I have enough skill and experience to back up my intensity. That is, I eventually do my best to take on as many things as possible at once.
Vaul is what I often resort to when playing sports IRL. I just can't run for long, I become winded way too easily that way. I prefer to run in quick bursts as necessary. I'm pretty damned good at that.
But since videogames often allow you to play off of your mentality more often than in reality, I'll probably end up with Khaine or Hoeth. Besides, bringing a shield into battle (to make a tank) is a false cliche; one I'm not too fond of.
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