Magical Salvaging

[sinsation]

I really wonder how this is going to work. I understand but i don't. I see that you can break down elements of magical items and chose which ones you want to extract but how are you going to get these? Every item you get is going to be of use to you. You get a hairy sack of goodness that gives you an item of use to your class. What am i going to use to magically salvage? Maybe i can extract an element and add it on to another element but that would only work if there was more than one element.

[RC_Cola]

Yeah, that's a good point. If everything you get is of use to you, what do you have left to salvage magically (I almost said disenchant)?

#1. Your old stuff.
#2: Once you have all the best gear at your level, you don't quit getting stuff.
Perhaps we should say "every piece of loot you win is a useful item for your career" instead of "every item you get is of use to you". But actually no, because if you get some gauntlets that aren't as good as yours or have less preferable stats to you, it is of use because you can salvage it. But not everyone is a magical salvager, so actually yes.

Maybe that's just me thinking out loud, but if I didn't answer your question I'm not sure what you were asking.

[boocellzia]

What I understand is that the PQs are the only thing in the game that will be giving out class specific loot. If this is true you will be able to use all you other random drops for crafting.

does that make sense?

[LiteGravitation]

Might want to try the Magical Salvaging forums, we have a topic like this :D

http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46044

Really just think of it like disenchanting for WoW. You take an item and you dissolve it into something you can use for other things. Yeah you lose the item but that's what you agree to do by picking this gathering skill.

You will be able to salvage old equipment that you're done using, equipment that you get that you can't use, and you can always buy stuff on the auction house for the purposes of salvaging.

[sinsation]

Might want to try the Magical Salvaging forums, we have a topic like this :D

http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46044

Really just think of it like disenchanting for WoW. You take an item and you dissolve it into something you can use for other things. Yeah you lose the item but that's what you agree to do by picking this gathering skill.

You will be able to salvage old equipment that you're done using, equipment that you get that you can't use, and you can always buy stuff on the auction house for the purposes of salvaging.

While our questions are the same they do differ in the base. But yeah WoW chanters are basically WAR salvagers only i have to get Talisman making to get my items. Hmm its a hard choice between Apothecary/cultivation and Magical salvaging/talisman making

What I understand is that the PQs are the only thing in the game that will be giving out class specific loot. If this is true you will be able to use all you other random drops for crafting.

does that make sense?

That actually makes alot of sense thanks =)

[Nightborn]

I believe that quest rewards and pqs will be the only guaranteed useful items, world drops and chests will probably be of a more diverse selection. Thus allowing you to easily find items to salvage from, and for all we know we may even get to keep items, if anyone has played GuildWars recently you can salvage from an item multiple times if your lucky and using the right salvage kit, allowing for even more usefulness. Hopefully we will be finding out soon in open beta.

[Logic Crash]

I do not know. It sounds like you could be losing out on a lot of money when you break down all your old equipment so on and so forth.

[Ramzin]

Events that give you equipment that is tailored to your class are:
Quests
PQ's
Keep Lords
King Encounters

Also Dungeon Bosses probably will, but we haven't heared anything about them yet.
There will be a lot of better quality items that you might find off of a random drop that you can't use. Like in the Game Spy Beta Journal that was kept for a week, one of the testers said that they picked up a Dwarvern weapon that they couldn't use.
Items like that will be the things getting Salvaged.

[adrianemery]

I do not know. It sounds like you could be losing out on a lot of money when you break down all your old equipment so on and so forth.

I have no idea how the economy is set up in WAR, but in WoW I was making literally 1000's of gold as I maxed out an enchanter early and ended up selling stacks of enchanting mats for stupid money when everybody else needed them for leveling or for getting enchants on their kit.

I would assume a similar situation will happern here where people will buy raw materials for whatever this stuff is used for, but it will depend on how the economy will be set up and if the mats become more valuable than the stuff it comes from.

[koby]

I can't even find a magic salvage trainer.

[Brillig]

I can't even find a magic salvage trainer.

That's because they're not in the game yet. In the beta guide it states that there are only 3 gathering skills and 1 crafting skill in the beta right now. Magical salvaging and talisman making aren't in yet.

-Brillig

[Atalon]

What is it that you are supposed to receive from magical salvage? Is it maybe something you need for making talismans?

[scyld]

Yeah, I'm wondering about what the materials from this will be used for as well. As it seems now, the curios for Talisman Making seem to be coming from Scavenging humanoid corpses.

[Arnafein]

Read this: http://www.warhammeralliance.com/articles/showentry.php?e=77

[logicalmayhem]

i just hope there is a way to disenchant other peoples gear for them, and scavenging and scalvaging is 2 close just call it disenchanting

[Arnafein]

i just hope there is a way to disenchant other peoples gear for them, and scavenging and scalvaging is 2 close just call it disenchanting

Random world drops are Bind-on-Equip at least, so you can disenchant those for other people. I think I've only heard about dungeon and normal quest loot (not necessarily PQ) being Bind-on-Pickup.

[fizzletop]

been playing open beta for a while now, although this has not been in the game for testing (at least in any phase I have tried) there are plenty of items for people to break down. Inf rewards that stink, PQ rewards you dont need, broken magic items that you wont want but can repair for cheap and DE, and plenty of random world drops.

[Aven]

In beta if you farm a pq and get more than one bag, that bag is likely to have the same item. So this is where magical salvaging comes in handy.

[Davos]

Just a quick note about world drop items. When I played a High Elf over the preview weekend a majority of the random-mob dropped magic items would repair into career specific items. Such as a "damaged magical earring" might repair into a belt. I'd see it as repairing into an Archmage belt, my buddy would see it repairs into a blademaster belt. I saw at least one drop like this in the Empire area, but I didn't see any on the Greenskin, Dwarf, or Chaos toons I tried. Although, I'd guess they'd want to implement the repair system across the realms. Particularly in the Empire and Dark Elf areas where tanks from other realms would be needed.

I saw two world drop blues and they were both career specific, and unfortunaly not for my career. If they want to encourage players to cross-realms (which they do since the capital cities got consolidated) they'd need to implement the repair system on those items too.

The bad thing is this system would reduce the amount of salvaging fodder available.

[Azalin]

I have come to find that there is a TON of things to salvage ingame so far.

Firstly there are items specifically for salvaging. These items are good to level and will give you the dust component for creating talismans. In a few days of play, I have found roughly 20 or so of these items and through salvaging I have made several gold off of them (levels 4-17 when gold is not easy to obtain)

Secondly there are a lot of items that are not upgrades. Sure you can put these on the AH and make a few silvers... and they will sell fast, believe me. But from playing the only things that I equip are the high items from public quests. Everything else for me is trash. In the same span of time as above I have found several hundred green and blues, this includes quest completes, loot bags form PQs, influence items (also from PQs), and random drops.

Sometimes you will find items where the stats don't match up to your spec. I play a Zealot (heal spec) so willpower is the number one attribute. So I get a lot of gear that has only intellect on it and since I am not a dpser these are all worthless. Also there are many items depending on level that people pass up on the AH because the PQ rewards are so much better.

A major category of super high value items (cloaks) are unsalvagable. It is not uncommon to sell a low level cloak for a few gold merely because cloaks are hard to come by and therefore people want them no matter what the stats.

Salvaging is a big time commodity on the AH. An item that might be worth 5 silver, when salvaged could be worth 10x that at least. The prices are high because:

1. Talisman making is new and everyone wants to check it out (this will be the same when the game goes live, trust me)

2. When you do poorly at making a talisman it will only last for 2-8 hours when attached to gear, so to keep your gear stated at its maximum you will have to make a lot of talismans or you will have to buy them.

3. Power levellers want those ultra high crafting levels at the beginning of the game to try to become over powered.

4. Without salvaging and scavenging, talisman making can't work. A lot of talisman crafters are scavengers. Scavenging will get you the curios but it will not give you the dust or the base stat item.

Some on this thread previously mentioned a good strategy so I will reitterate it here. The best strategy for making money will be to take salvaging, salvage everything you can't use and then sell it at the beginning of the server. Once you get a good income from that, buy out cheap items on the AH, salvage them and sell the stuff on the AH. Don't even worry about using the the left overs for yourself. You will make a lot of money this way.

Another thing you can do is offer your salvaging services to others. Everyone will have boe items they won't be able to use and can't sell on the AH (I've only had one item I have ever needed that I didn't earn via RvR or PQ). This same principle worked wonders in WoW with disenchanting and the same principle holds true here. Salvage items for tips and you will have another stream of income.

So far salvaging is more viable than butchering and cultivating on an AH level.

[zamolxes]

i keep hearing about rr items 2 silver to be salvaged.

where the hell are they please ? i check the vendors and nothing.

a name of the vendor, or the item please, so i can search on wardb.
thanks.