View Full Version : Do i meet the Closed Beta Specs?
kdubau
08-11-2008, 08:36 AM
I know my computer meets the minimum requirements for the live launch but the closed beta has higher requirements and i'm curious as to whether i meet those. I know not much solid info on it is available but opinions would be nice, thanks alot.
this is what i have in my computer:
P4 3.0Ghz w/ HP CPU
1GB Ram
Plenty of HDD space
512MB nVidia 7950 GT GPU
Windows XP
i think the graphics card might put me over the top, since nVidias chips are scaled by the second number (ie. 7900 is better then the 8800, just an earlier series) ... don't quote me on that tho...could be wrong
DarkRef
08-11-2008, 08:41 AM
I know my computer meets the minimum requirements for the live launch but the closed beta has higher requirements and i'm curious as to whether i meet those. I know not much solid info on it is available but opinions would be nice, thanks alot.
this is what i have in my computer:
P4 3.0Ghz w/ HP CPU
1GB Ram
Plenty of HDD space
512MB nVidia 7950 GT GPU
Windows XP
i think the graphics card might put me over the top, since nVidias chips are scaled by the second number (ie. 7900 is better then the 8800, just an earlier series) ... don't quote me on that tho...could be wrong
You might be penalized for the single core...
The 8800 > 7900 by the way. That graphics card should meet the requirements, and it should definately suffice to run the game smoothly.
kdubau
08-11-2008, 08:44 AM
does that mean the game supports dual core? cause i wasn't even sure if that was true.
8800 > 7900 ...really? i could have sworn the only difference was the support for directx10 and other then that the 7900 is better/faster
LiteGravitation
08-11-2008, 08:44 AM
7950 is quite a bit worse than the 8800.
That's not your problem though, the card is still fine.
1 gig of RAM is pretty bad though, but I think you can get in with it.
And yeah a 3.0ghz single core will be bested by a 1.6ghz dual core. Mainly because of bus speeds and other advancements.
Archbound
08-11-2008, 08:52 AM
does that mean the game supports dual core? cause i wasn't even sure if that was true.
8800 > 7900 ...really? i could have sworn the only difference was the support for directx10 and other then that the 7900 is better/faster
.... does it support dual core...... no self respecting game company would NOT support dual core because it is the most common chipset atm.....
GetBent
08-11-2008, 08:54 AM
I have a single-core 2.93 GHz and got in the closed beta with the CE invites, the single-core won't be a problem considering yours is faster with hyperthreading, just gotta wait. :D
7950 is quite a bit worse than the 8800.
That's not your problem though, the card is still fine.
1 gig of RAM is pretty bad though, but I think you can get in with it.
And yeah a 3.0ghz single core will be bested by a 1.6ghz dual core. Mainly because of bus speeds and other advancements.
What's your logic here ... 1.6 x 2 does not mean 3.2
krighton
08-11-2008, 10:29 AM
9600 < 8800
8800 > 7900
kdubau
08-11-2008, 10:31 AM
What's your logic here ... 1.6 x 2 does not mean 3.2
his logic is exatcly what he said.... "bus speeds and other advancements"
ghz isn't everything.
kdubau
08-11-2008, 10:35 AM
9600 < 8800
8800 > 7900
i read that what i said is somewhat true. i guess 7900 > 8600 would have been a better choice of wording. apparently anything under x600 is not really for gaming so thats where it's true.
Galbrech
08-11-2008, 10:41 AM
The requirements for the closed beta are lower than the game's minimum requirements.
palofex
08-11-2008, 10:49 AM
If your worried that you did not get into the cb cause of comp I assure thats is not the case. 4 gigs ocz reaper ddr2 wolfdale 8400 plenty of hd space ati 4850 solid asus board and a corsair 750 psu vista 64 operating system I sure have niot got an invite so its not your comp The dam thing still say ce whatever and the lovely orange applied I find it hard to believe I am not in nor is a friend who has a very similar comp but I continue to believe we will get in. I would advise you to wait
Logics
08-11-2008, 11:53 AM
since we're on the subject, you think this would hurt my chances at getting into beta?
Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 6800
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce 6800
Rest of my computer definitively meets requirements.
Ovation
08-11-2008, 02:30 PM
saw this thread and had the same worries as the poster.
Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.06GHz (2 CPUs), ~3.1GHz
Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 7300 LE
Display Memory: 888 MB
Dedicated Memory: 121 MB
Shared Memory: 766 MB
when i used to play wow i would have lots of trouble w/ lag at times, especialy when passing through cities and while using the ventrilo chat program ( i had around a 10-20sec delay when talking/receiving). anything wrong and what can i do to make this run WAR smoothly? not only for the beta but full version as well if any1 can help.
nemesis99
08-11-2008, 03:13 PM
saw this thread and had the same worries as the poster.
Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.06GHz (2 CPUs), ~3.1GHz
Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 7300 LE
Display Memory: 888 MB
Dedicated Memory: 121 MB
Shared Memory: 766 MB
when i used to play wow i would have lots of trouble w/ lag at times, especialy when passing through cities and while using the ventrilo chat program ( i had around a 10-20sec delay when talking/receiving). anything wrong and what can i do to make this run WAR smoothly? not only for the beta but full version as well if any1 can help.
The minimum requirements of WAR do not even list the 7300 card but say "Integrated chipsets such as the ATI Xpress and the NVIDIA TurboCache variants will have low settings selected, but should run satisfactorily" (Your 7300LE is a turbocache variant but its also relatively older too). So you'll be right at the borderline for requirements. It might run, but your performance may vary. Your going to have issues in all likelihood.
The thing is though, and it really depends on how much you want to budget yourself for a future upgrade, but you'd probably be best off trying to get everything upgraded rather than just 1 or 2 pieces. Even if you get a new video card for instance, your Pentium 4 3.0ghz will likely bottleneck any of the newer cards, so it doesn't make sense to get a 'good' card, unless you get other 'good' components. Your motherboard or power supply may not even support certain newer cards.
But getting a below average card just doesn't make much sense for future use, as in its a bit of a waste to get a below average card now only to upgrade several months later...
Edit:
You may want to look at this site from Toms Hardware, they have a monthly article of the best video cards per price segment each month. But also have a general comparison of the last several generations of video cards "GRAPHICS CARD HEIRARCHY CHART":
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-graphics-card,1987-6.html
Basically the 7300LE is quite low, the reviewer recommends you upgrade at least 3 tiers up to see a performance difference, but the more tiers you go up the better. I'm not sure you should go above the 8600GT tier (or equivalent) based on your current hardware though, as your processor would likely bottleneck performance from that point.
Ovation
08-11-2008, 03:45 PM
allright thx.
might be getting a laptop for my birthday which happens to be the day b4 WAR launches.
cant find any laptops in my price range that have the 2.5ghz
any idea as to what i would need from a laptop to run WAR better than the desktop mentioned?
nemesis99
08-11-2008, 03:57 PM
I updated my previous post just last minute :). (And its on the previous page of thread so you may missed it, but added some info and a great site to look into).
As a side note, if you go to TomsHardware.com forums, even if you don't want to do a ton of research yourself as to what is 'good' to buy or if your not the most computer savvy person; there is a forum section Homebuilt Systems-> New Systems and you can make a forum thread asking "I have xxxx amount of money to spend, whats my best buy" and people will help you out and pretty much list out all the components you need to buy for that budget, usually based off of newegg.com prices, or at least thats how it was. You can probably ask for pre-built systems or individual components that you assemble yourself (its actually fairly straightforward to hook everything up inside a computer). You can also browse other threads to see what other people had suggested for them too, and it gives you a pretty good gauge as to what 'good buys' for any budget are.
I'm sure you could ask what laptop that doesn't cost more than x dollars is too and someone out there will provide some suggestions. Ask that in their laptop section though or read through the laptop section for that info :).
Ovation
08-11-2008, 04:00 PM
awsome. thx alot for ur help.
nemesis99
08-11-2008, 04:11 PM
Your biggest obstacle will be to find a laptop that has a decent video card. Processor speed is a bit more secondary. And don't worry about the ghz rating because if its a new laptop it doesn't need more than "2.5ghz", because for the newer generation processors ghz speed isn't everything anymore. (eg. a 1.8ghz intel core 2 duo processor will beat the snot out of a intel pentium 4 2.5ghz easily, and would be more than enough to play WAR).
Ovation
08-11-2008, 04:34 PM
ahhhhh. that helps alot. because i would look @ my desktop's 3ghz and then all the laptops would have 1.6-2.1 and i would'nt even consider em.
for the laptop card im guessin a nvidia 8400/8600/9600 or radeon 3200/3450 or w/e. not very familiar w/ radeon.
Contact
08-11-2008, 04:43 PM
his logic is exatcly what he said.... "bus speeds and other advancements"
ghz isn't everything.
ehh...yea...ghz isn't everything so that 1.6 dual core CPU can be better then the single core cause of architecture so how can you say "3.0ghz single core will be bested by a 1.6ghz dual core" when the only information you have is the ghz of both CPU's and you just said ghz isn't everything?
Mavian
08-11-2008, 05:34 PM
ehh...yea...ghz isn't everything so that 1.6 dual core CPU can be better then the single core cause of architecture so how can you say "3.0ghz single core will be bested by a 1.6ghz dual core" when the only information you have is the ghz of both CPU's and you just said ghz isn't everything?
If a program takes advantage of threading (think of it as the program running two micro-programs), the threads can each be run on its own processor in a dual-core model, thus making it faster than a single core which has to do one thread at a time. It effective "doubles" the speed. Now, if a program doesn't use threading, a single core would beat a dual-core running at 1.6 ghz.
But since WAR does use threading and takes advantage of multiple processors, the multicores are far superior to single.
nemesis99
08-11-2008, 06:36 PM
ahhhhh. that helps alot. because i would look @ my desktop's 3ghz and then all the laptops would have 1.6-2.1 and i would'nt even consider em.
for the laptop card im guessin a nvidia 8400/8600/9600 or radeon 3200/3450 or w/e. not very familiar w/ radeon.
The issue is, laptop cards may not be quite as fast as desktop cards, and I'm not sure what the performance disparity is, but a desktop nvidia 9600gt should run WAR pretty much on high settings without issues (just guessing, but 9600's run Age of Conan or Assassin's Creed, etc. on high, WAR shouldn't be more intensive than those). So a 9600M (laptop) shouldn't be far off and should be a great choice overall.
8600M should work well too. Personally I'd avoid any Nvidia cards that are x200 x300 or x400 (x = 7,8,9). Again try to work within your budget though.
Here's another forum thread that groups laptop video card performance into a few main groupings. Has a lot of useful info:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=275056
Kinsal
08-11-2008, 06:41 PM
I've seen a computer posted that would run any cb client...not only are running which may or may not be optimized code you also have debugging software in the background.. while some may meet the min or even recommend spec most CB require you to exceed the recommend specs..
I can't not speak for mythic I just speaking CB in general..
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