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Kungo
08-11-2008, 06:33 PM
I'm actually kind of upset by all of this because it for 1 totally ruins the exclusivity of being able to participate in something like closed beta, AND it sucks for some guy with Collector's Edition key who didn't get an invite. Here's the story.

I buy CE a while ago, so I'm promised a CE. I get my brother interested in the game, but by the time he can purchase it, the CE's are sold out. So anyway, he orders a SE from Gamestop. Today, however, he got a CB key. So for all of you who didn't get invited to the CB and are like "I'm well over specs", the most likely reason is someone messed up along the line, and you didn't end up with the key you should have gotten. Personally, I'm disappointed that fans have to be disappointed because retailers suck, and because people couldn't think of a better way to manage that.

DOUBLESHOCK
08-11-2008, 06:37 PM
Well CE wasn't even supposed to get CB invites in the first place, but yeah it still sucks that you didn't get invited, but open beta is around the corner anyway, and the NDA will be lifted soon too. I'm actually impressed that Mythic did this; people were upset that the regular edition preorders had the same bonus as the CE preorders, so Mythic right away gave CE a longer headstart and the chance at a CB invite.

Kungo
08-11-2008, 06:44 PM
Well, I got an invite, but I mean, there are alot of people who didn't. But what I'm saying is he is going to get all the same bonuses (except the tangible stuff, which I can't appreciate yet, since I don't have it...might be worth the extra 30$...I don't know yet). He will get the same headstart, the same OB, the same CB, the same PW, and most likely the same IG items. I'm just saying its a little unfair to others. I guess that's life, but I payed 30$ more and people are pretty much getting the exact same crap.

Sockerbit
08-11-2008, 06:44 PM
Let me see if I got this right, you think he got in just because he pre-ordered the SE edition?

Most likely he had the devils luck in getting picked for beta, that's all.

Kungo
08-11-2008, 06:47 PM
They said they weren't sending out random CB invites anymore, only CE ones. When he entered his SE code it also said under affiliations "Collector's Edition Pre-Order" and I didn't really think about it because I figured it would work itself out.

azxel
08-11-2008, 06:50 PM
I seriously think that these topics are getting way out of hand... :(

EternalFeastOfSorrow
08-11-2008, 06:51 PM
Well CE wasn't even supposed to get CB invites in the first place, but yeah it still sucks that you didn't get invited, but open beta is around the corner anyway, and the NDA will be lifted soon too. I'm actually impressed that Mythic did this; people were upset that the regular edition preorders had the same bonus as the CE preorders, so Mythic right away gave CE a longer headstart and the chance at a CB invite.
Okay, everyone who did get in needs to stop trying to placate those of us who got screwed. :cry:

Kamaul
08-11-2008, 06:53 PM
ya...we know people didnt get invited, someone messed up somewhere along the line. But PLEASE, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, stop making these threads! JUST STOP!

Kamaul
08-11-2008, 06:54 PM
Okay, everyone who did get in needs to stop trying to placate those of us who got screwed. :cry:

But does every SINGLE person who didnt get in have to make a QQ post? Honestly, we get it, and it sucks, we dont need 10000 threads telling us that it sucks..we get it already! wait another week or so for open beta to start..

EternalFeastOfSorrow
08-11-2008, 06:55 PM
ya...we know people didnt get invited, someone messed up somewhere along the line. But PLEASE, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, stop making these threads! JUST STOP!
No. Not until we get what we were promised.
But does every SINGLE person who didnt get in have to make a QQ post? Honestly, we get it, and it sucks, we dont need 10000 threads telling us that it sucks..we get it already! wait another week or so for open beta to start..
I haven't started a thread on this, but I am going to QQ on every thread that is open.

Callagan
08-11-2008, 06:56 PM
No. Not until we get what we were promised.

You weren't promised closed beta access. James confirmed that if you didn't get into Closed Beta, then you didn't meet their internal requirements.

Cerealkiller
08-11-2008, 07:04 PM
No. Not until we get what we were promised.

Promised? Please show me a single thread where a Mythic representative EVER said that they promised that all CE's would get into the CB? You didn't get screwed at all, you're getting more than was originally promised. Some of us just a little more.

Oh, there is a beta and i'm in it!

Kungo
08-11-2008, 07:05 PM
Lulz...I didn't make this thread to QQ, I simply made this thread to offer a possible reason why many who were over the specs got denied...If people want to flame me for that just go away...you're seriously no any better than the person who's QQing...

Mods can close this if people are so butthurt about me voicing what I thought was a possibility.

EternalFeastOfSorrow
08-11-2008, 07:06 PM
You weren't promised closed beta access.
Yes we were:
5) Regarding the pre-order, Collector’s Edition and the Standard Edition, we are pleased to announce that we will also be inviting our pre-order CE buyers into our Closed Beta test starting next week.
And from the Herald:
The last batch of CE Beta invites have just been sent out to all eligible CE Open Beta card holders.
I have a CE preorder, I am not media, and my PC is significantly over the spec. Therefore, I am eligible, and I have not been invited. We were lied to.

lubermanl
08-11-2008, 07:07 PM
They said they weren't sending out random CB invites anymore, only CE ones. When he entered his SE code it also said under affiliations "Collector's Edition Pre-Order" and I didn't really think about it because I figured it would work itself out.

Looks like he got in because he was given a Collector's edition code with his Standard edition Pre-order. That is also why he appears to be getting the same stuff as you.
I have no idea how this will effect his headstart. He may recieve the normal headstart but lose his char when he puts in the cd-key, because he's putting in a SE cd-key with a CE pre-order. But thats speculation. The mix up was likely at the retailer, not with mythic.

Callagan
08-11-2008, 07:09 PM
Yes we were:

And here's the entire quote:

5) Regarding the pre-order, Collector’s Edition and the Standard Edition, we are pleased to announce that we will also be inviting our pre-order CE buyers into our Closed Beta test starting next week. There will still be some hardware spec requirements (but they are much lower than our current requirements) since we are still in Closed Beta but we expect that the vast majority of our PO CE buyers will meet the lowered requirements. We gotten a lot of feedback from the community on this point over the last few weeks asking for this and we are now going to make it happen.

In other words; you didn't meet the lowered requirements, whether they be hardware, industry or press, or something they didn't tell us about.

Kungo
08-11-2008, 07:10 PM
Well, they didn't technically promise anything. The way I see it though, if you go to the store, and pick something up, go to pay for it, and the cashier takes the item and puts it back on the shelf, and you're like...um...wtf, and the cashier is like "never promised that if you payed for this you'd get it..." you'd be peeved...I mean, okay, I'm exaggerating a little, and I am grateful that I got in, but I really do sympathize with those who got rejected invites...This isn't a QQ thread, and if you don't have anything constructive to say, please don't say anything at all...this includes:

1. I didn't get an invite either.
2. Stfu whiny baby
3. Don't pretend you're upset you ungrateful...

Please and Thank Yous.

therealdecoy
08-11-2008, 07:10 PM
I seriously think that these topics are getting way out of hand... :(

Quoted for truth.

Tareel
08-11-2008, 07:11 PM
Yes we were:
I have a CE preorder, I am not media, and my PC is significantly over the spec. Therefore, I am eligible, and I have not been invited. We were lied to.

Did you get caught by the problem they were having with their DxDiag reader?

Cinge
08-11-2008, 07:12 PM
Remember you probably still have to be over 18 also.

EternalFeastOfSorrow
08-11-2008, 07:16 PM
Did you get caught by the problem they were having with their DxDiag reader?
Nope. I my dxdiag is from my laptop, and James said that they did not invite people using laptop chipsets, even though mine is significantly over the minimum spec. That would have been nice to know a couple of months ago, I would have used a friend's dxdiag.
Remember you probably still have to be over 18 also.
I'm 27.
In other words; you didn't meet the lowered requirements, whether they be hardware, industry or press, or something they didn't tell us about.
I'm not industry or press. Here's my http://www.systemrequirementslab.com info:
http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/media/srl/min_only_animated_graph/graph_all_5.gif

PASS CPU Minimum: 2.5 GHz Pentium 4 processor or equivalent You Have: 2 processors running - AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-62

PASS CPU Speed Minimum: 2.5 GHz You Have: 2.10 GHz Performance Rated at 4.41 GHz

PASS System RAM Minimum: 1GB for Windows XP, 2GB for Windows Vista You Have: 2.9 GB

PASS Operating System Minimum: Windows XP/Vista You Have: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium Edition, 32-bit (Build Service Pack 16001)

PASS Video Card Minimum: A 128 MB Video Card, with support for Pixel Shader 2.0 (NVIDIA GeForce FX 5900, 6600-6800, 7600+ / ATI Radeon 9500-9800, X300-X850, X1300+ / Intel X4500). Laptop versions of these chipsets may work, but may run comparatively slowly. GeForce FX series not supported with Vista. You Have: NVIDIA MCP67M ()

PASS Video Card Features - Minimum attributes of your Video Card
Video RAM: Required - 128 MB , You have - 1.0 GB Video Card 3D Acceleration: Required - Yes , You have - Yes Video HW Transform & Lighting: Required - Yes , You have - Yes
Vertex Shader Ver.: Required - 2.0 , You have - 3.0
Pixel Shader Ver.: Required - 2.0 , You have - 3.0
Video Card Driver Version (DirectX) Your driver version number is: 7.15.11.5665

PASS Sound Card Minimum: Yes You Have: Speakers (Conexant High Definit

PASS Sound Card Driver Version Your driver version number is: 6.0
Free Disk Space Minimum: 15 GB You Have: 47.2 GB

Kungo
08-11-2008, 07:20 PM
???? I'm using a laptop. My dxdiag is laptop...having a laptop has nothing to do with getting or not getting invited.

GrandKinz
08-11-2008, 07:20 PM
No. Not until we get what we were promised.

I haven't started a thread on this, but I am going to QQ on every thread that is open.

You never were promised the CB. They(developers) said that CEs that meet the system requirments and pass the other test, such as if you are in a gaming industry or what not would get it. But, one of the devs gave out a post earlier today, after the third beta invite wave, that they would be reviewing the accounts again and will give out invites accourdingly. So there is hope!

EternalFeastOfSorrow
08-11-2008, 07:28 PM
???? I'm using a laptop. My dxdiag is laptop...having a laptop has nothing to do with getting or not getting invited.
Yes, James said that the problem might be if you used a dxdiag from a laptop or work pc rather than your main gaming rig. I'm looking for the post right now, but he's posted about 30 times today.

Edit: Here it is:
In addition to system requirements we also check for press or industry relations, I know some of you have contacted me, telling me this was in error. Unfortunately we cannot prove who is or who isn't so we have to deny access to anyone who declared themselves as such. This is the most common issue for players who state they have high system specs and have not been invited (that and people who used their work pc/laptop to post their dxdiag and not their main rig).

Kungo
08-11-2008, 07:32 PM
well, then i guess i got lucky...and so did all the people i know that got CB invites...because we all use laptops....

Blacktongue
08-11-2008, 07:49 PM
Uh those arnt the system requirements for the CB, thats for release. Please stop whining.

Browncoat-WHA
08-11-2008, 08:35 PM
That's enough.

And you wonder why we don't let these threads exist?

I seriously have to keep saying this, but I'll say it again.

If everyone who got into or did not get into beta made a thread about it, we would have nothing but these threads on the first 3 pages.

Seriously folks - unless you really have a good discussion point to make besides "Yay! I got into beta" or "Boo, I didn't get into beta", your thread is going to be closed. We have a lot of other topics in this new forum that need to take priority over these threads. I'll shorten it for you:

Got into beta? Yay! Have a cookie.

Didn't get into beta? Boo! Have a cookie.

*LOCKED with a bashhammer*