The High Elf Problem.

[Cookster5]

I plan on playing on a roleplaying server on release, as a Dwarf. This presents me with a problem in regards to High Elf players. Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't High Elves barely tolerated in Dwarfish society? I don't think my character would group with em, considering the past history and how long Dwarfs hold grudges for :D

Anyone else considered how they handle the High Elf problem for Dwarf characters?

[Bloodstorm]

Anyone else considered how they handle the High Elf problem for Dwarf characters?

Roll Destruction and kill them. Or just kill them.

[Evil weasel]

use the "i was in a drunken rage" excuse to kill them off i belive there was a good post of there traits with insects and how insects are suppieor

[Dagaron]

The setting of WAR puts the alliance in a bit of hurt.. greenskins are overrunning the dwarf lands, chaos is infringing upon the Empire, and the Dark Elves are massing an attack against the High Elves.

The alliance is coming together because of necessity. Dwarfs, while they do hold grudges and hate elves, understand necessity. The average Dwarf (not counting slayers) is willing to tolerate the presence of elves if it means survival.

As far as RPing a Dwarf, I'd probably never talk to elven players. If one tries to talk to you do something as such:

"Dwarf looks at the elf blocking his way. Ignoring the inane babble coming from its mouth Dwarf spits upon the ground and forcefully pushes his way by."

As far as grouping goes I'd probably group with an elf (the necessity issue) but never speak to it. If you must, speak to a human that will then speak to the elf. Make it very obvious that you're only tolerating the inferior race.

I can see how you could have a lot of good roleplay pop up just because of your character's nature. I'd have fun with this, not let it limit you.

[Ruinx]

I was going to ask facetiously if the "High Elf problem" was that they were all still alive, but apparently it is! Hell, High Elves are the reason I'll be rolling Chaos or Dark Elf ;)

Somehow I feel that when the day comes to defend Lothern against the hordes of Chaos, Dark Elves and Orcs who besiege it, the Dwarves will have found an excuse to be elsewhere ;)

[miber]

I agree with Dagaron - make your character more along the lines of grudgingly accepting High Elves as an ally. Just because you can't kill them doesn't mean you have to be friendly towards them (in an RP sense, anyway, I wouldn't suggest kill-stealing them or spamming them with tells or anything :p).

Also, I'd imagine there will be a bit of the Dwarf-High Elf animosity in-game (http://www.warhammeronline.com/english/behindTheScenes/developmentDiaries/ProductionDiary_JoshDrescher.php):We just roughed in an early version of Karaz-a-Karak – the Dwarf capital city – and it’s ENORMOUS. Even zipping around with Magical Developer Powers, it takes a fair bit of time to see it all – and you’re going to want to see it all. (Cruel teaser: Just wait until you see where the stunties have visiting High Elves camping out.)

[Ahsas]

I'll refer to this as a Dwarf problem instead of a High Elf one because I doubt I'll play a dwarf. Personally I'd group with dwarfs if only for the reason of making fun about their height. It's become a mutual thing in one of the RP's I'm currently writting in (North and South Again) and it's one of the funnest things to do. I call it dwarf baiting.

[Grimsgaze]

From an RP standpoint, I've always found razor-sharp wit works in place of razor-sharp blades. Luckily I've never partied with a warhammer elf, so it's been easy for me, but in my D&D/Warcraft experiances, wit is needed to stave off party in-fighting.

You'll find the comic animosity between the two races is pure gold, even amongst so-called friends such as Gimli and Legolas.

Now, specialically High Elves, they are certainly more pompous and self-important than their less arrogant Wood Elf bretheren. Imagine Legolas to be the archetypal Wood Elf, and Elrond to be your typical High Elf. It's not hard to see why any self-respecing dwarf would dislike them.

Now, add to this, the fact that there has been a fued between the two races for hundreds of years, although it's unclear who started it, and over what. All that is clear is that each side sent over a messenger of "peace", resulting in one beardless dwarven messenger, and one headless high elf messenger, if I remember correctly.

So, what to do? Treat the longears with complete disregard, disrespect and occasionally, when called-for, dismemberment!

"Are ye sure that was an elf? He doesn't remind me of any of the ones I've seen before. Fer one he's a lot more vertical, fer two he's a lot more vocal, and fer three, he's a lot less dead."
- Gruggin "Twobeards" Grimsgaze, upon laying eyes upon an elf outside of dwarven lands for the first time.

[Snorri]

Think of it more as a non-aggressive pact.

Well, almost non-aggressive.

I'm not going to be kind to single elf I meet :cool:

[Vitorio]

Where do the Wood Elves stand with dwarfs out of curiosity? Or even in general...i dont know much about them.

[Pugslah]

Greenskins, and Dark elves should gang up on the Elflings while the Stunties get to watch their 2 most hated Enemies kill eachother. :D

[Ilairon]

Except that the Druchii would let the greenskins wittle away at the inhabitants of Ulthuan until those pathetic excuses for Elfkind were at their knees, and the Greenskins thinned. Then they'd fight the beaten foes, enslaving those who through cowardice survived and using them to fuel their furnaces of war. Meanwhile Malekith, the true phoenix king, would take the sword of Khaine and the Druchii would be unstoppable...ah, what a wonderful fate.


Feel free to sit back and harbor your ill will towards the Asur, and we might even let you live as slaves for our amusement once we retake the Phoenix Crown.

[Pugslah]

Aren't Greenskins already Dark Elfling slaves:confused:

[Ilairon]

In War, indeed, yes they are. Now all we need is for the Dwarfs to ignore Ulthuan and Chaos to take the Empire. Then the Old World and Ulthuan will succumb to the Druchii wrath.

[Bigvinuy]

Where do the Wood Elves stand with dwarfs out of curiosity? Or even in general...i dont know much about them.

Wood elves hate almost all things that aren't woody to some degree, and will pretty much shoot anybody who sticks their dirty little toes into the forests.

Beastmen and the Wood Elves constantly fight due to the fact that they share (grudgingly) the same forests and are trying to drive eachother from their only home.

Aside from the beastmen, they hate dwaves a good deal, because dwaves cut down trees for their furnaces and such.

Also, the Bretonians have many quests which take them into the forest for many reasons so they come in third in the current wood elf hate-list.

[Snorri]

Greenskins, and Dark elves should gang up on the Elflings while the Stunties get to watch their 2 most hated Enemies kill eachother. :D

Sounds good to me!!! :cool:

[Deathstroke]

I plan on playing on a roleplaying server on release, as a Dwarf. This presents me with a problem in regards to High Elf players. Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't High Elves barely tolerated in Dwarfish society? I don't think my character would group with em, considering the past history and how long Dwarfs hold grudges for :D

Anyone else considered how they handle the High Elf problem for Dwarf characters?

If we're going to be racist about this let's not be ignorant.

Elves ARE NOT tolerated in dwarfish society.

[Snorri]

It will turn my gut to puke when I see high elfs wandering around Karaz-a-Karak...

It will happen : (

Be it at their own peril, rest assured any elf roaming our mountains halls will not be greeted kindly - not by me at least.

[Markio]

I'll more than likely roll a Druchii... If I do, I'll make sure you don't need to worry about those filthy Asur. Oh and I suggest you Dwarfs stay away from their capital too, unless you like pain.

[Cookster5]

Except that the Druchii would let the greenskins wittle away at the inhabitants of Ulthuan until those pathetic excuses for Elfkind were at their knees, and the Greenskins thinned. Then they'd fight the beaten foes, enslaving those who through cowardice survived and using them to fuel their furnaces of war. Meanwhile Malekith, the true phoenix king, would take the sword of Khaine and the Druchii would be unstoppable...ah, what a wonderful fate.


Feel free to sit back and harbor your ill will towards the Asur, and we might even let you live as slaves for our amusement once we retake the Phoenix Crown.

*points to Roleplaying forum*

/shoo

[Snorri]

I'll more than likely roll a Druchii... If I do, I'll make sure you don't need to worry about those filthy Asur. Oh and I suggest you Dwarfs stay away from their capital too, unless you like pain.


Markio, my friend, I'm not going anywhere near their stinking elf capital. Burn it to hell.
I'll raise my flagon of ale in hope that you rip every single high elf's ears off and ram them down their bloody necks.

Be warned though, the dark elves are the only elves the dwarfs are allowed to kill in WaR... so our anger against the Asur will call for occasional venting...

But at the moment the high elfs are the biggest problem, kill them, kill them all and keep them killed.

[Vanhel]

The problem is they're still walking around! lol

Just kidding...well...not really (I always hated the High Elves as my Undead and Vampire Counts).

[Snorri]

The problem is they're still walking around! lol


Yep, and breathing.

[Vikingkingq]

Where do the Wood Elves stand with dwarfs out of curiosity? Or even in general...i dont know much about them.

Wood Elves hate Dwarves for being tree-killers. A long time ago, the dwarfs sent a big lumber expedition into the forest of Lothern and they got massacred by Wood Elves. The dwarfs got pissed off, sent in an army, and the army never made it back (got butchered by Wood Elves and their forest beasties). It's one of the big outstanding Grudges in the Big Book.

[Gharunkal]

You fight your mindless wars. But you are all unaware of the real threat.... my threat. For you will eventualy destroy eachother. Even if the Dark Elves succeed... the Orcs rampage through Dwarven lands. They will not be save for long.. the Empire has been weakened by our plague, we will defeat it under any circumstance.

Your reward for aiding us, by preventing your arch-enemies to fight us? Eternal life, as a slave of the Dark Gods. Maybe we lose the Age of Reckoning. Maybe not. But Chaos will take the world certainly, for we are close to the Eye of Terror and it shalt not be long for we get aided by our brethen in space. Followers of the same ideal.
Destroyers of millions.. singlehandily.

You have lost, just give up. Chaos makes up your very existence, just ease your suffering by joining our cause.

[In Sigmar's Name]

Im gonna RP as an Imperial and yes I won't trust High Elves or Druchii even if they are in my guild. Heck a Slanneshi joined the guild and im not taking my chances with him. Remember no one in Warhammer world trust each other.

[Cookster5]

You fight your mindless wars. But you are all unaware of the real threat.... my threat. For you will eventualy destroy eachother. Even if the Dark Elves succeed... the Orcs rampage through Dwarven lands. They will not be save for long.. the Empire has been weakened by our plague, we will defeat it under any circumstance.

Your reward for aiding us, by preventing your arch-enemies to fight us? Eternal life, as a slave of the Dark Gods. Maybe we lose the Age of Reckoning. Maybe not. But Chaos will take the world certainly, for we are close to the Eye of Terror and it shalt not be long for we get aided by our brethen in space. Followers of the same ideal.
Destroyers of millions.. singlehandily.

You have lost, just give up. Chaos makes up your very existence, just ease your suffering by joining our cause.

*points to the roleplaying forums again*

/shoo

[spirit]

*points to the roleplaying forums again*

/shoo

*points to the CS servers again*
*points to the letters RPG in MMORPG*
*points at you*
*laughs*

/shoo

[Cookster5]

*points to the CS servers again*
*points to the letters RPG in MMORPG*
*points at you*
*laughs*

/shoo

And what would CS be?

Seriously, I'm all for RP, but I don't want 'Rawr I am teh Chaos! You will all die!' stuff in my thread. Take it to the Roleplaying forums.

Reported by the way.

/shoo

[Snorri]

You reported him? For RPing? :o Ok it was a non-rp thread... but... it was a joke...

*Catches an evil glare from Cookster5 and backs away slowly* ;)

Viva la'dwarfs!!
Quality over Quanity... and we dwarfs certainly have quality.

[Cookster5]

You reported him? For RPing? :o Ok it was a non-rp thread... but... it was a joke...

*Catches an evil glare from Cookster5 and backs away slowly* ;)

Viva la'dwarfs!!
Quality over Quanity... and we dwarfs certainly have quality.

Don't cross an angry Dwarf fan! :p

And I reported that fella for being rude to me, not the RPing fellas. The report button will have to do until they let us use double-headed axes....

[Snorri]

Double headed axes? Now you're talking ; )

[Pugslah]

Stuntie Beards makes a good Hair piece, A lil smelly though.

[Karthos]

Think of it more as a non-aggressive pact.

Well, almost non-aggressive.

I'm not going to be kind to single elf I meet :cool:

I'd make a re-condsideration, Gorrok.

[Nerothos]

I still say there should be occasional deliveries to friendly areas.

Very occasional.

As in, 1 delivery quest after 100 everything-else quests...

I'd love to strap on some fancy looking armor and start strutting through the Dwarfen capital. Just once. It would be like wearing pure gold while strutting in down town Edmonton. Your a hate-magnet!

[Snorri]

I'd make a re-condsideration, Gorrok.
Why?

I'm not going to be kind to a single elf I meet.
I'm going to hate all of them.

I'll be on a RP server.

Whats there to reconsider?

[Khaela-Mensha-Khaine]

Oh Gorrok, dont make me turn u into another icecube. Im just wondering how the high elves will react to dwarfs running around ulthuan.

[Markio]

High Elves don't have the right to be angry with Dwarfs, everything is the High Elves fault. They should be wiped off the map...

[Grimsgaze]

High Elves don't have the right to be angry with Dwarfs, everything is the High Elves fault. They should be wiped off the map...

Wiped off the map? Are ye daft? Why salughter them in yer maproom when ye can butcher them in a place that's easier to clean up?

Surely, it's more traditional to wipe them off your boot and/or axe-head!

[Snorri]

Aye getting all that elf blood n' guts on your maps would be a pain. Best to wipe them off your axes, and remove their brains from your hammers.

The elf king was arrogant even by elf standards, the pointy ears deserve to be mashed into a mangled mess for their actions against us.

Bloody arrogant elf king... no wonder the dwarf drew his axe, he had every reason to.

Oh... dwarf magic resistance "for the win!" ;)

[Sam Alverston]

High elves are . Dont forgive them for it. Reroll Darkelf and beat the living snot outta them. (ps, im not a big high elf fan, patting bunnies and fairies and picking flowers has never been my style)

[Sam Alverston]

You reported him? For RPing? :o Ok it was a non-rp thread... but... it was a joke...

*Catches an evil glare from Cookster5 and backs away slowly* ;)

Viva la'dwarfs!!
Quality over Quanity... and we dwarfs certainly have quality.


Im almost rerolling dwarf for that last sentence. Yes I am weird but that made laugh.

Ohh ps: ive never really got to know how high elfs reproduce i mean... Ye you know what i mean.

[Markio]

Caledor II got what was coming to him...

I mean seriously, High Elves or Dark Elves dressed as High Elves attack Dwarf caravans. A Dwarf messenger is sent to Ulthuan to demand repayment for the attacks and what does Caledor do? Shaves his frickin' beard off. What an . He doesn't even deny that it was High Elves who attacked the Dwarfs.

[Grimsgaze]

High elves are . Dont forgive them for it. Reroll Darkelf and beat the living snot outta them. (ps, im not a big high elf fan, patting bunnies and fairies and picking flowers has never been my style)

I think you'll find Wood Elves are more likely . I mean, have you ever seen a High Elf do anything by frown and look all serious and arrogant? The Wood Elves are far more jovial and light-hearted by comparisson.

Oh, wait, you mean homosexual... riiiight. Well then, how do they keep reproducing?

Actually, maybe that's the way to end the "High Elf Problem", turn them to the Side and watch them have lots and lots of safe clean fun wth each other, but die out due to lack of non-asexual reproduction!

GENIUS!

Homophobia out, elf-lovin in!

[Sam Alverston]

Thanks, good thing your lvling with me. No but seriously, ive read so much about high elfs that just made me laugh in pity.

[Snorri]

The smelly elf king gave an arrogant, stuck-up-his-own-backside response to the dwarf who had asked for apology/explanation/compensation, the elf basically said he would not do anything unless the dwarf pleaded. He was asking for trouble, he was telling the proud and honourable dwarf to plead. The elf knew dwarfs were a proud race and provoked the dwarf to draw his axe and then ordered to have the messenger’s beard shaved off.

He knew full bloody well that beards were valued highly amongst the dwarfs, and the act of force-shaving a dwarf was unthinkable. The elf knew this and he did it anyway, because of his arrogance.

Obviously humans will not see the sense here concerning beards, but dwarfs have different taboos to us. The war as about honour, vengeance and elfen treachery.

the elf king certainly did deserve what he got.

[Nerothos]

the elf king certainly did deserve what he got.

What about Caledor, who tried to offer peace but instead got an axe to the chest?

Or, when he did offer peace, the Dwarfs opened the gates to the city and let the army pour in, kill everything, THEN challenge Caledor who tried to offer peace, but instead got an axe to the chest?

Or the stealing of the pheonix crown followed up by cowaring behind your fortress walls?

:P

[Sam Alverston]

The smelly elf king gave an arrogant, stuck-up-his-own-backside response to the dwarf who had asked for apology/explanation/compensation, the elf basically said he would not do anything unless the dwarf pleaded. He was asking for trouble, he was telling the proud and honourable dwarf to plead. The elf knew dwarfs were a proud race and provoked the dwarf to draw his axe and then ordered to have the messenger’s beard shaved off.

He knew full bloody well that beards were valued highly amongst the dwarfs, and the act of force-shaving a dwarf was unthinkable. The elf knew this and he did it anyway, because of his arrogance.

Obviously humans will not see the sense here concerning beards, but dwarfs have different taboos to us. The war as about honour, vengeance and elfen treachery.

the elf king certainly did deserve what he got.


I understand. It's disrespectful, and clearley a provocative act, made to upset the dwarfs. I mean comon! It's a dwarfs BEARD! I really hate High elfs =)

[Snorri]

What about Caledor, who tried to offer peace but instead got an axe to the chest?

Or, when he did offer peace, the Dwarfs opened the gates to the city and let the army pour in, kill everything, THEN challenge Caledor who tried to offer peace, but instead got an axe to the chest?

Or the stealing of the pheonix crown followed up by cowaring behind your fortress walls?

:P


The elf was foolish to ask for "peace" after such a treacherous act of betrayal, the dwarfs were not just going to accept a simple "sorry mates, wont happen again, yeah?" they demanded vengeance for the mockery.

Don’t try and make the duel with Caledor sound so simple, the elf was allowed to fight for his life - his weapon was nothing compared to the might of the dwarf steel - I repeat, they deserved everything they got. Treacherous gits.

And you know very well we did not "steal" your precious crown, we fought for it, we killed that bloody pointy ear in single combat and took his crown to restore our honour. We had won, we had our vengeance.

We marched back to out fortress, but the elves didn't like it now that they had been humiliated - they weren’t so peaceful then were they, didn’t like it when they were mocked? We stood behind our walls, ready to fight you off once more, but you went to play with a bunch of dark elfs.

[Sam Alverston]

Ofc the dwarves didnt want peace! They cant just accept something like that!

[Grimsgaze]

Ofc the dwarves didnt want peace! They cant just accept something like that!

If you make them put it in the Book of Grudges, it's a done deal. Afterall, the dwarves sent an ambassador of peace fist, who was shamed and humiliated, and is probably a slayer now, just to try and claw back some honour before he dies. The elves, after shaving the dwarven ambassador, then decide to send their own?? It was a declaration of war from the moment the first hair was removed from dwarven chin.

Misunderstanding
Dwarves send message of peace
Elves send dwarf back without beard
Dwarves get very peed off and the BoG doubles in size
Elves send message of 'peace'
Dwarves send elf back without head

I can't see how the elves weren't declaring an eternal war the minute one said "wait a mo, let's shave him, that'll be a laugh."

[Snorri]

If you make them put it in the Book of Grudges, it's a done deal. Afterall, the dwarves sent an ambassador of peace fist, who was shamed and humiliated, and is probably a slayer now, just to try and claw back some honour before he dies. The elves, after shaving the dwarven ambassador, then decide to send their own?? It was a declaration of war from the moment the first hair was removed from dwarven chin.

Misunderstanding
Dwarves send message of peace
Elves send dwarf back without beard
Dwarves get very peed off and the BoG doubles in size
Elves send message of 'peace'
Dwarves send elf back without head

I can't see how the elves weren't declaring an eternal war the minute one said "wait a mo, let's shave him, that'll be a laugh."

Exactly :cool:

[Chilltouch]

The dwarfs' excuse for everything:

"The snaggletooths did it!"

[Snorri]

Dwarfs need no excuses!! Our minds are like stone.

Cold and dead.

No wait, sorry.

Strong and unmoveable.

:p

Anyway, did I mention how much I hate High Elfs?

[Chilltouch]

Yes, you did.

If I ever made a dwarf, he'd be black-haired. And as snaggle-toothed as possible.

Dawi Zharr ftw!

[Karthos]

Whats there to reconsider?

You'll be under the command of a High Elf. ;)

[Snorri]

You'll be under the command of a High Elf. ;)

Like hell I will.

Oh right you.. thought you meant in game :p lol

Well, as I said, Gorrok obeys you as long as he see's it fit, if he disagrees with your methods, he's gone :D He is upholding his oath to defend the wizards, he is with the guild to find his doom, thats about it. I try to roleplay my characters very accuratly, so although it will sadden me if he leaves the guild (cos lets face it, we rock) - he'll bloody well do it if he has to! ;)

Your not gonna be on our server though :( are you?
Which means we'll need a Lord Millitant on our side of the pond!!! *Beats his chest proudly*

Yea, a doom-seeking slayer would not make a good Lord Millitant...
*Phones up Hans*

[Karthos]

Like hell I will.

Oh right you.. thought you meant in game :p lol

Well, as I said, Gorrok obeys you as long as he see's it fit, if he disagrees with your methods, he's gone :D He is upholding his oath to defend the wizards, he is with the guild to find his doom, thats about it. I try to roleplay my characters very accuratly, so although it will sadden me if he leaves the guild (cos lets face it, we rock) - he'll bloody well do it if he has to! ;)

Your not gonna be on our server though :( are you?
Which means we'll need a Lord Millitant on our side of the pond!!! *Beats his chest proudly*

Yea, a doom-seeking slayer would not make a good Lord Millitant...
*Phones up Hans*

About another Lord Militant.. Couldn't I get on your server if I would like to?

[Sam Alverston]

If you make them put it in the Book of Grudges, it's a done deal. Afterall, the dwarves sent an ambassador of peace fist, who was shamed and humiliated, and is probably a slayer now, just to try and claw back some honour before he dies. The elves, after shaving the dwarven ambassador, then decide to send their own?? It was a declaration of war from the moment the first hair was removed from dwarven chin.

Misunderstanding
Dwarves send message of peace
Elves send dwarf back without beard
Dwarves get very peed off and the BoG doubles in size
Elves send message of 'peace'
Dwarves send elf back without head

I can't see how the elves weren't declaring an eternal war the minute one said "wait a mo, let's shave him, that'll be a laugh."

Shave a Dwarfs beard off, they will "shave" off your head.

[Pugslah]

Shave a Dwarfs beard off, they will "shave" off your head.

Thats Why you Choppa off da headz first.

[Snorri]

About another Lord Militant.. Couldn't I get on your server if I would like to?

If you buy a euro version of the game, sure :D

[Chilltouch]

Wow, Snorri's European, a roleplayer and has a sense of humour?

WHAT SERVER ARE YOU JOINING?! TELL ME!

Even though i'll be smacking you around as Chaos. Heh.

[Snorri]

What server am I joining?

The fourth one down on default selection screen of course!!!
;)

I will be joining the mosty "dwarfy" sounding server, in hope of finding lots of dwarf players : ) as I fear dwarfs will be very underpopulated after release. :cool:

Maybe we can become mortal enemies!
A tempting offer huh?

[Bigvinuy]

What server am I joining?

The fourth one down on default selection screen of course!!!
;)

I will be joining the mosty "dwarfy" sounding server, in hope of finding lots of dwarf players : ) as I fear dwarfs will be very underpopulated after release. :cool:

Maybe we can become mortal enemies!
A tempting offer huh?

the "Snorri" server of course

[Nerothos]

Snorri is Euro?

Ah, well, I knew finding a good NA RP'er would be hard....

[Grimsgaze]

Excuse me, how hard is it to believe in European RPers?

Most people I know are roleplayers, englishmen good and true!

Afterall, the biggest conclave of LRPers is here in England (yes, I am banging on about The Gathering again, even though it's over for another year now).

Eurp-RPers unite... maybe even on one server! *raises his tankard* ew... I still need to wash than from all the dried Scrumpy last week... gag!

[Snorri]

All euro Rpers must joui the Snorri Server! ;)

[Grimsgaze]

All euro Rpers must joui the Snorri Server! ;)

Excellent, see you on Nosebiter server then?

[Snorri]

Snorri Nosebiter server ^^ If that is there, I'm joining it!!!

[spirit]

Snorri Nosebiter server ^^ If that is there, I'm joining it!!!

I'll be joining the Snorri Nosebiter server, in order to crush your skull into the dirt when my Chaos hordes rampage at your door.

Love you :)

[Urgloc_Lifebane]

Ill have you know im English, a heavy RPer and with a damn good sense of humour!

but i will definately be joining up with Snorri :D Tanner comes, with a big axe!!!

so, if you chaos would like to form an orderly line please, just one pace away, give me some good swinging room...


8)

[Snorri]

Ill have you know im English, a heavy RPer and with a damn good sense of humour!

but i will definately be joining up with Snorri :D Tanner comes, with a big axe!!!

so, if you chaos would like to form an orderly line please, just one pace away, give me some good swinging room...


8)

Well said! Gorrok and Tanner will raise many a mug after splattering chaos brains all over their axes!

As long as no one has my name, that'll be server I join ;)

[Grimsgaze]

At this rate, there won't be a single High Elf on Nosebiter, as the server will be full to capacity with dwarves!

Grand!

[John Northman]

hmm... wonder if there will be slayer pirates:D ?

[Grimsgaze]

hmm... wonder if there will be slayer pirates:D ?

To be honest, I can't really see how anyone got away with that concept for DoW. I mean, it's one of the least Slayerish things you can do, take up piracy. There's nothing dwarven about it, nothing honourable, nothing glorious... and they use swords and pistols... to coin modern net-speak "wtf!?!?!"

I was thinking of getting back into collecting minuatures, maybe finish painting the last few of the Tyranid army from 4 years ago, or get myself a Slayer army (including all the old Marauder Minature classics!) for Christmas and spend a long long while painting them up. I saw the slayer pirates, I nearly popped out an eye and unhinged my jaw when my face registered the thoughts in my head, and... I think these will be the only "slayer" units I will not be adding to my Kazak Kadrin army.

I put the Slayer Pirates into the same void gate they threw the Chaos Toilet (a GW staff member once told me it was the only mold they ever actually threw out, so no more will ever be made :)).

Pirates, yes. Slayers, yes. Slayer pirates, no. What's next? Black Orc Chapions of Sigmar? Bulliemic Halfling Cooks? Skaven Plaguerat Field Medics?

In (what I remember to be) the words of Samwise Gamgee "It's not nat'rul mista Frodo, it's jus' not nat'rul."

[nurgleman]

the best way to deal with the high elf problem is to have a man-skirt sale on a platform over an active volcanoe and when they are all assembled destroy it.

[Sam Alverston]

Thats Why you Choppa off da headz first.

Dont tell me, tell the High Elfs. And what is a orc doing in here? :)

[GreyWarlord]

the best way to deal with the high elf problem is to have a man-skirt sale on a platform over an active volcanoe and when they are all assembled destroy it.

I like it! I like it!

[Clave]

Yes, that idea has just the right amount of savagery and an ample amount of elf death. Tell me when you put it into action, I want to watch.:cool:

[Sam Alverston]

Yes, that idea has just the right amount of savagery and an ample amount of elf death. Tell me when you put it into action, I want to watch.:cool:

Record it and put it on youtube/video.google?

[Thorval]

im going to name a high elf "buttseckz" and run into the orcz main city and let him die.:cool:



i've had it with elves in games, they are so frilly and stupid.

[mmofreak]

As far as RPing a Dwarf, I'd probably never talk to elven players. If one tries to talk to you do something as such:



So if one of your friend plays a high elf you won't talk to him in game?

[Torgan]

If he's playing a High Elf he's no longer a friend.

[Snorri]

If he's playing a High Elf he's no longer a friend.

Well said.

I am gonna be roleplaying, every elf I meet is going to get a sour welcome.
And maybe even an axe to the skull...

At the very least; half a barrel of curses and a damn good spitting.

[Purex Deathstalker]

Well said.

I am gonna be roleplaying, every elf I meet is going to get a sour welcome.
And maybe even an axe to the skull...

At the very least; half a barrel of curses and a damn good spitting.

Now rp is all good an all but there are those rp douches

I had an alt on a Rp server once
Anyway i ran 4 differnt groups One had a group where the tank had NO armor and was defensive spec, Another had a weaponless rogue and was stealth sepc(Im rping jet li O.o) A Priest who didnt heal who was shadow spec and used swords (iam so evil i cant heal ill hurt myself).

Now the good things about RP, MOST are really good, VERY FEW noobs, and there arent any imbalanced race issues

Now im good with you not talking to the elf but what if hes the main healer?
And hes also prejudiced??? The main reason i stay out of rp servers is that reason

[GreyWarlord]

I am insulted by your assumption that mighty dwarf warriors need pointy-ear healers in order to kick green butt.

[Chilltouch]

Each race will have to be able to be independant. There will be no real "best healer".

[Snorri]

You expect me to group with an elf??

Runepriest, Warriorpriest, or my own mighty doom.

Those are the only options I will allow!!! :cool:
Those highelf's can stuff their healing down their ears!

[Purex Deathstalker]

I am insulted by your assumption that mighty dwarf warriors need pointy-ear healers in order to kick green butt.

Pff who needs a healer for pvp?

Pve I mean, but what if there was NO OTHER CHOICE?!?!

[arthurfoxshot]

Elflings are so lame they shoulnt be in the game;) well,i woulnt be going any where near the elfs or there lil towns,and why would i when i could just stay in the dwarfs mighty halls.Oh and i woulnt go near a guild with a single elfling in:cool:

DWARFS RULE!!!

[Snorri]

No other choice?

Death, obviously.

Honour first and formost.
Those elflings can eat their magics for all I care, a good axe is all I need.

[Zakat]

I'm torn between two decisions. My hatred for the elflings is very strong, and thus I'd never fight along side them unless it was unnavoidable. But I would never trust them to watch my back, and wouldn't treat them with respect! They deserve none!

But I lust for elf blood upon my Axe! So I'm tempted to travel to the elf land to slay many longears! Unfortunately the stupid manlings have made an alliance with the High Elfs and thus I am not so foolish as to risk breaking our Dwarf alliance with the manlings. So if you see me fighting on the battlefield in the Elf realm, remember this. I'm only doing it so I can slay the elfs. High Elves, Dark Elves...to me, all Elfs are the same.

((I think I'd get bored fighting Greenskins all the time, so Once I'm an accomplished warrior, hopefully a Slayer, I will probably head to the other realms and smack around some Chaos and Dark Elves.))

[Snorri]

Oh yes, rest assured I will be cutting up dark elfs.
Got to kill some pointy ears, haven't we?

Those high elfs can bleed to death for all I care, but I'll be in the dark elf realms every so often, just to vent my anger.

[Clave]

I'll be right there with you guys. Wouldn't miss long-ear death for anything.

[elthareon]

you dwarf's are all fools, get over youre stupid grudge, you will be the death of us all. unite or we will fall.

[elthareon]

i hope i join the same rp server as snorri and all the other elf hater's in this elf flaming thread. i cant wait to best all you hater's in a duel.

[Clave]

We shall see, elf. We shall see. :cool:

[elthareon]

calve, my sword will be in your fat belly before you register it leaving it's scabard.

[Clave]

Your pansy little sword won't even be able to penetrate my good Dwarfen armour.You need a good hammer to put us down. A hammer which, coincidentally, will be busy removing your pointy-eared head from your shoulders.

[elthareon]

well if i cant penetrate your 'good' armor, i will have to go for the next best thing. the beard:p

[Clave]

Aaagh! Not the beard! :shock:

[elthareon]

rofl, im joking we would never make the same mistake twice...or would we;)

[Clave]

I should hope not. I would hate to waste good Orc killing time on culling elves.

[elthareon]

dont worry clave, our time on the battlefield we come oneday, then we will see who is the better man.

[Clave]

Better man? Well that would clearly be me, because there is obviously nothing manly about an elf!

[Snorri]

I hope we can strip to the waste and have bare-knuckle duels.

Nothing would please me more than pummelling an elf into unconsciousness.
I hope all us dwarfs join the same server ;)

I care not what server the elfs join... they are all the same anyway!! :p ;)

*Places a 200000 gold bet on Clave and twelve barrels of Bugmans*
Rip his gut open Clave!

[Clave]

Heh heh, with pleasure

*Removes gloves and shirt in preperation*

Come get some, Longshanks!

[elthareon]

it appear's you dwarfs are already stripping and having drunk partie's, oh i dont think ive seen a dwarf woman on these forums yet? and you call the elves

[elthareon]

i will join your server snorri and calve, and i will defeat you and prove my worth.

[Clave]

It's a date, elf

[arthurfoxshot]

yo, stinkin elfling clear off our forums!! Every dwarf is worth 10 elflings so you might want to bring some of your mates to beat clave:cool: Perfetic elfs are no match for the might of the dwarfs! saying that maybe 10 elfs woulnt be brave enough since they are known for being pansies:D I will look forward to do a dual with you:D

[elthareon]

us? pansies!, we are not the ones who take a crown, look yourself in a castle and say 'were not playing anymore, sod off'

[arthurfoxshot]

Actualy,elfling we came to your city knocked the crap out of ya king,and we took the crown and went back to our castle,waiting for you to strike once more but u buggered off and went to play with some dark elflings,knowing that yoiu would jsut lose again if u fighted us:cool:

PANSIE ELFLINGS SUCK!

STUBBORN DWARFS RULE!!

[Snorri]

it appear's you dwarfs are already stripping and having drunk partie's, oh i dont think ive seen a dwarf woman on these forums yet? and you call the elves


Actually Wazzabaijig (female) created a female slayer for Ungrim Drengial :D
And by all means elf, join our servers, if ye really want to die before the might of the dwarfs - then that’s your problem... and our pleasure!

And your even-more-arrogant-than-most elfling king started the war of vengeance, we got what we came for, we had our revenge and compensation - the smelly crown.
But nooo, the elflings didn't like it when someone disgraced them.

We took the crown back to our hold, we had won, we had accomplished what we had set out to do. You decided to march to our hold - where we waited for you readily... to crush you once and for all. Believe me, no army can pass Karaz-a-Karak, have you seen its defense?? You would have been crushed with ease, good old molten lava. ;)

Then you went to frolock with your brothers :p

[MachiavelliDisciple]

There's no problem that cannot be solved with a big enough axe.

[elthareon]

hey i know im arrogant, its in my nature. Just like it is in your's to be a stubourn little stuntie! and yes i know we would of got butcherd if we actualy did march towards your keep, but that just prove's we are not the 'panies' everyone makes us out to be. we dont like being humiliated aswell.

[elthareon]

oh and snorri correct me if im wrong but didnt it take one little gobo with a staff to blast a hole in your 'impregnable' walls of Karak Eight Peaks, this could just as easy happen to karaz-a-karak. so dont go around claiming no army can get through our defence of karaz-a-karak.

[arthurfoxshot]

Well they diid break the mighty walls with some crappy magic,but it woulnt take mroe than a snotling with a spoon to break through the elfs walls:eek:

[arthurfoxshot]

Even if the mighty walls of Karaz-a- karak did fall it would take 10,000 men to take it,make that 1,000 000 elflings:cool:

[Snorri]

Like I said, almost nothing can pass Karaz-a-Karak, it is posisbly one of the most defended cities in the old world. The elf army would have been crushed.

I didnt say "no single dwarf hold could be destroyed" as history would have proven me wrong.

Our holds are mighty, but Karaz-a-Karak is a hold beyond compare, it would take all the forces of chaos to overwelm that city!

And yes, eight peaks fell... we were too confident in our wall's sturdiness, but it wasn't that which completly toppled us... it was the combined attack from the area we least expected it... underground!!!

We have learnt a harsh lesson from the fall of the eight peaks. But Karaz-a-Karak is the mightiest dwarf hold we have, followed by Karak Kadrin. I doubt anything could topple the runed walls of the everpeak, it would take a the combined force orcs, chaos and dark elfs...

Which is why W.a.R will be so interesting.
Oh, I wasn't calling you arrogant, was calling the elf king arrogant ;) But yes, it is in the nature of a dwarf to be stubborn, and in the nature of an elf to be arrogant.

Cats and Dogs, Flies and Frogs, Elfs and Dwarfs...

There's no problem that cannot be solved with a big enough axe.
I liked that :p

[arthurfoxshot]

Snorri do you have any pictures on Karaz-a-karak or karak kardrin? If so,could you please post them i would be very gratefull^^i wanna see the defences!:cool:

[Snorri]

Hmm only got descriptions of the defences, like the drgaon heads above the gates which pour molten lava upon attackers.

You can see Organ-Guns here (multicannons)
http://www.warhammeralliance.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=327&c=4

Example of how huge the gates are here:
http://www.warhammeralliance.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=339&c=4

The Kadrin vally/entrance to Karak Kadrin: Love the bridge...
http://www.warhammeralliance.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=360&c=2

This just a merchant building... and it looks like a damn fort!
http://www.warhammeralliance.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=66&c=2

You can see here how our holds are literally carved into the mountain face:
http://www.warhammeralliance.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=20&c=2

Like I said, there are not many good pics showing the defences, what I know comes from books :D

[GreyWarlord]

oh and snorri correct me if im wrong but didnt it take one little gobo with a staff to blast a hole in your 'impregnable' walls of Karak Eight Peaks, this could just as easy happen to karaz-a-karak. so dont go around claiming no army can get through our defence of karaz-a-karak.

The gates of Karaz-a-Karak bear the most powerful inscription of the Master Rune of Valaya in the world, sucking up all magic directed against the city and rendering it immune.

[arthurfoxshot]

Thanks snorri,one hell of a merchnut building:p Also i hope them giant gates open when ya go in^^I guess i need the read to slayer book etc,since am abit of a n00b only been on the forums like less than a week,and only known bout warhammer for like a month.Hopefully they show the gates of the capital,but them gates on the slayer keep are sure big:cool:

[Zakat]

Bah, I hate how every elf thinks we ran away to our fortress like cowards after taking the crown of the Elf King. We didn't run not one bit. We smashed through the Elf kingdom and took the crown, so then if the elflings want it back, than they'd have to do the same. Too bad they were too cowardly to attempt it. We still have that crown, just goes to show how much the Elflings think about such things.

If the crown or hammer of the Dwarf King was taken, you can bet your every dwarf would suit up and march forth to retrieve it!

[Snorri]

Bah, I hate how every elf thinks we ran away to our fortress like cowards after taking the crown of the Elf King. We didn't run not one bit. We smashed through the Elf kingdom and took the crown, so then if the elflings want it back, than they'd have to do the same. Too bad they were too cowardly to attempt it. We still have that crown, just goes to show how much the Elflings think about such things.

If the crown or hammer of the Dwarf King was taken, you can bet your every dwarf would suit up and march forth to retrieve it!

Well said, the dwrafs wouldnt rest until it was secured once more.

[elthareon]

Bah, I hate how every elf thinks we ran away to our fortress like cowards after taking the crown of the Elf King. We didn't run not one bit. We smashed through the Elf kingdom and took the crown, so then if the elflings want it back, than they'd have to do the same. Too bad they were too cowardly to attempt it. We still have that crown, just goes to show how much the Elflings think about such things.

If the crown or hammer of the Dwarf King was taken, you can bet your every dwarf would suit up and march forth to retrieve it!



yes, but we were marching towards your keep but the dark elfs proved a greater threat, we had to take care of the dark elfs otehr wise our city would of been raized to the ground.

[Zakat]

yes, but we were marching towards your keep but the dark elfs proved a greater threat, we had to take care of the dark elfs otehr wise our city would of been raized to the ground.

Ok, than the Elfs should stop saying that the Dwarfs were cowards for returning to Karaz-a-Karak with the High Elf's crown. It all comes down to The Elf king being a jerk, and getting what he had comming. We have the crown, and if you want it back you can come and try and get it, we took what was right to reclaim our honour.

[Vikingkingq]

Not to throw a monkey wrench into the elf-hating, but I think people are losing the historical perspective. Dwarves and Elves have worked together after the War of the Beard, when faced with the overwhelming threat of Chaos. The first and most prominant would be the Great War Against Chaos, where the final battle at the gates of Kislev saw Magnus the Pious with both dwarven allies and a contingent of elves led by none other than Teclis himself; the second would be at the Siege of Middenheim when Teclis again accompanied by the Swordmasters of Hoeth went to war side-by-side with the Slayers of Kadrim Keep.

While I would say that High Elves and Dwarves don't get along, they certainly are able to put their differences aside on the battlefield - at least when the Empire forces are there to serve as a buffer.

[elthareon]

Not to throw a monkey wrench into the elf-hating, but I think people are losing the historical perspective. Dwarves and Elves have worked together after the War of the Beard, when faced with the overwhelming threat of Chaos. The first and most prominant would be the Great War Against Chaos, where the final battle at the gates of Kislev saw Magnus the Pious with both dwarven allies and a contingent of elves led by none other than Teclis himself; the second would be at the Siege of Middenheim when Teclis again accompanied by the Swordmasters of Hoeth went to war side-by-side with the Slayers of Kadrim Keep.

While I would say that High Elves and Dwarves don't get along, they certainly are able to put their differences aside on the battlefield - at least when the Empire forces are there to serve as a buffer.

i agree with you, ill defintly put our differences aside when it comes to fighting of the hordes, but i do like a good argument against a dwarf, and a good fight.

[Snorri]

Oh aye, but just cos we're being forced tae help each other, it dannae mean we gotta act all nice tae each other.

Rest assured any elf I meet will be getting a rather cold welcome, if any welcome at all.

[elthareon]

likewise snorri, i dont agree to this..uneasy alliance, the only dwarfs i will cut some slack to are the ones who have no idea about the warhammer lore.

[elthareon]

but i doubt even you, king of the elf haters will cut the elfs that dont know there lore any slack.

[Snorri]

If I meet elfs who dont know their lore and cant put up a decent argument, I''ll cut their ears!!

Grind their ego into the dust I say!

If the player is actually getting desperatly upset by my attittude, I'll make an exit :p I dont plan on actually hanging around any elfs for too long though!

Unless I'm kicking one in the ribs - in which case I'll be there aaaaalllllll night.

[elthareon]

fair enough snorri, but for example say im in a group with you and im healer, or you are the healer. what then? will you refuse to heal me, just wondering.

[GreyWarlord]

If an elf were stalking me and I could do nothing about it, I would walk right into the biggest Chaos army I could find and refuse healing as i walked away unharmed in my superior Dwarven armour.

[elthareon]

i didnt quite understand that.

[Snorri]

fair enough snorri, but for example say im in a group with you and im healer, or you are the healer. what then? will you refuse to heal me, just wondering.

Honestly? I would heal you, as you are part of the group and the whole party could be wiped, dwarfs humans and elfs alike being slaughtered. I'm not one of those roleplayers who "like tah fight unarmeed!!!11!" if you know what I mean.

But I dont plan to be grouped with elfs anyway, so that problem is not really an issue for me.
Any elf I meet will get a barrel of insults, "friend" or foe, if they are dark elfs they will get a good axe to their skull too.

I plan to group only with empire + other dwarfs :p

[GreyWarlord]

i didnt quite understand that.

Of course not, silly elf. It means if any elves wanted to follow my group around I would arrange for them to be killed. Preferably against dark elves come to think of it; then I can wipe up the 'winners'.

[ConverseSC]

Was it common in DAoC to be banned for "roleplaying" insults at the opposing faction/race/whatever?

[elthareon]

Was it common in DAoC to be banned for "roleplaying" insults at the opposing faction/race/whatever?

hmm i sure hope it's not like that in war, i plan on insulting many a dwarf. i think aslong as it doesnt target the actual person it should be fine.

[Snorri]

Aye, warhammer wouldn't be warhammer without elfs and dwarfs bickering on at each other.

As long as players do not direct personal insults towards another player (RL) then RP insults should be ENFORCED!!! :D

[Kaikai]

speaking of friendly rivalry, i think the dwarfs amoung us might get a kick out of a real 'half elf' in the art section.
here :D (http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6131)

[Snorri]

Said it before, and I'll say it again. YOU sir, are a genius.
Fantastic comic ;)

[elthareon]

good picture even though he was cut in half:shock:

[Andrazi]

By my understanding of the race guide, the dwarves dislike High Elves so much because Dark Elves disguised themselves as High Elf warriors and attacked the dwarves, and that is where the hate and scawling in grudge books comes from. :-)

[Snorri]

Partly.
It wasnt just the Darkelfs/Highelf ploy. (if you ask me, an elfs an elf.)
It was the High Elf's dishonourable, provoking and arrogant actions afterwards.

The pouinty ears still tihnk they were in the right and keep throwing out silly excuses about "ohhhh it was all the dark elfs" or "Whaaaaa that dwrafd rew his wepaon in the throne room" (leaving out why he did so.)

In short (no pun) Dwarfs and High Elfs are doomed to loath each other until the end of time.

[peo]

By my understanding of the race guide, the dwarves dislike High Elves so much because Dark Elves disguised themselves as High Elf warriors and attacked the dwarves, and that is where the hate and scawling in grudge books comes from. :-)


Not realy.
That was the start of the war of the beards.
The dwarfs sent ambasadors to the elves to get compensation for the killing and stealing of goods by the dark elves, the phoenix king refused and sent the ambasador home with his beard shaven thus forcing the ambasador to become a slayer.
That is one of the biggest insults that a dwarf can have thrown at him thus the high king went to war, although he measured the elves by their strenght in the old world which was far less than the real strenght of them but in true dwarf fashion he wasn't about to say he was wrong.
The war then went back and forth until the high king and the phoenix king met in combat and the dwarf won, taking the phoenix crown as compensation declaring that vengance was met and the dwarf armies retreated into Karaz a Karak.

The grudge itself is over, it's lingering untrust from dwarfs that is the thing.
They can't trust a race that both have infighting and doesn't honour their word and of course shaves mens beards.

[Balthemor]

In short (no pun) Dwarfs and High Elfs are doomed to loath each other until the end of time.

Or until we decide to finish them off once and for all?

[MachiavelliDisciple]

They can't trust a race that both have infighting and doesn't honour their word and of course shaves mens beards.

Can you ever truly trust someone who has shaved a man's beard? I know I couldn't: far too much proficiency with a sharp implement for my tastes.

[Snorri]

The war then went back and forth until the high king and the phoenix king met in combat and the dwarf won, taking the phoenix crown as compensation declaring that vengeance was met and the dwarf armies retreated into Karaz a Karak.

The grudge itself is over, it's lingering untrust from dwarfs that is the thing.
They can't trust a race that both have infighting and doesn't honour their word and of course shaves mens beards.

Aye that is the key point, we just cant trust them any more, but we are no longer at war with them.

Or until we decide to finish them off once and for all?
We shall hate them unto death!!!!
But finishing them off once and for all is a good start, aye. ;)

Can you ever truly trust someone who has shaved a man's beard? I know I couldn't: far too much proficiency with a sharp implement for my tastes.
The dwarfen racial taboos sometimes seem strange to us humans :P Dwarfs are as alien to us as space invaders... they are a different species. The beard has much to do with honouring their ancestors and is a symbol of great importance amongst their society... the human equivalent for such an insult might be eating all of the kings babies :p
Actually no... the beard is more important than that!!

[vehemoth]

High Elves are masters of martial combat and are very wise (like vulcans). I will enjoy fighting along side them. With coming doom in the midst, past grudges with current allies have to be ignored ;-)

[Cranmer]

You sir are a shame to the whole dwarf kind :-x There's no something like 'past grudges'. Grudge is a grudge, it's gonna exist to the end of the world (and one day more) :!:

[Chilltouch]

Your race, your looks, your gender, your attributes. None shall matter. In the end, you are naught but another puppet on the strings of Change. Those here who will not convert in those later years to Chaos, shall be gifted with a most blessed fate for a mortal, and be consumed by the ever-changing flames of Tzeentch. Elves, Dwarves, Humans, one and all. This is no time for squabbling. Bow down and accept supremacy. Worship the only true God, Tzeentch, or be engulfed by his firey maws.

[vehemoth]

You sir are a shame of a dwarf. If we cannot put aside the past we have no future. I will see 20 dead orcs before I allow one elf to die!

[elthareon]

You sir are a shame of a dwarf. If we cannot put aside the past we have no future. I will see 20 dead orcs before I allow one elf to die!

this is the kind of dwarf i have respect for, someone who can get over old grudges.

[MachiavelliDisciple]

this is the kind of dwarf i have respect for, someone who can get over old grudges.

Forgive me if I am wrong but from my knowledge of Dwarf lore there is no such thing as an 'old grudge'. Grudges last forever or until there has been suitable retribution. Either way once you've made an enemy of a dwarf you've got an enemy for life, even if he is no longer actively seeking to kill you.

[elthareon]

Forgive me if I am wrong but from my knowledge of Dwarf lore there is no such thing as an 'old grudge'. Grudges last forever or until there has been suitable retribution. Either way once you've made an enemy of a dwarf you've got an enemy for life, even if he is no longer actively seeking to kill you.


yes you are correct, and i must say this is the first dwarf i have ever seen to ever forgive an elf, im sure he will be outcasted by the others, if snorri finds that post you will never hear the end of it.

[vehemoth]

get over them? No such thing will happen. They must be put aside until after destruction is defeated.

[Balthemor]

yes you are correct, and i must say this is the first dwarf i have ever seen to ever forgive an elf, im sure he will be outcasted by the others, if snorri finds that post you will never hear the end of it.

A dwarf forgiving an elf! Gah gah GAHH! *Babbles and roars in rage* OUT! a dwarf who forgives the elf is just a mere stunted ork! *Babbles and yells in rage again*

Forget about that pussycat snorri FEAR ME!

[elthareon]

no balthemore i will not FEAR YOU, i find nothing scary about a 3foot tall stuntie. the most he could do is hack at my toenails

[vehemoth]

The goals of TAFL are my first priorities. Grudges are second. Hating the elves conflicts with my first priorities :)

[Cranmer]

Vehemoth why can i see pointy ears sticking out of your helmet? :roll: Seems you're the one of those 'elven dwarves' mentioned in Jeux video :p :lol:

[vehemoth]

they be dark elf ears I thought would be funny to attach on my helmet.

[Balthemor]

no balthemore i will not FEAR YOU, i find nothing scary about a 3foot tall stuntie. the most he could do is hack at my toenails

Yeah your right i can't hurt you with my hammer. Some huge giant's come along and already made you thinner than sissy paper!

Oh wait i do have one thing that can hurt you. ANTI PAPER CANNON!

How you like me now huh?

[Chilltouch]

Keep the conflict running steadily. Entertainment is required for those who take rest from the pillaging on the Empire.

Let the hate flow through you...

[vehemoth]

that elf has giant toes. And cold touch is right. Dwarfs should put our minds over our emotions. That is what makes us an intellegent race and better than the greenskins.

[Balthemor]

that elf has giant toes. And cold touch is right. Dwarfs should put our minds over our emotions. That is what makes us an intellegent race and better than the greenskins.

I'll use my mind........Elves chop off dwarf beard x 2 = All elves untrustworthy and bad
We cannot forgive a race that is willing to chop off our beards as punishment for some less important matter. The Elves have never apolagised for their actions nor have they faight alongside is in any recent battle.

[Halfhand]

Mythic has outlined the Dwarf and Greenskin classes. Now they are starting on the Empire and Chaos armies. Is it too late to start a petition to scrap both of the elf armies and just concentrate on what we have? Game would be out sooner and it wouldn't have elves in it: it's a win - win situation.

[Julius]

Or substitute them for Skaven and Lizardmen?:)

[Spork]

Or substitute them for Skaven and Lizardmen?:)
I strongly support this suggestion.

[KroqGar]

Amen, brother.

[Stuntie]

Mythic has outlined the Dwarf and Greenskin classes. Now they are starting on the Empire and Chaos armies. Is it too late to start a petition to scrap both of the elf armies and just concentrate on what we have? Game would be out sooner and it wouldn't have elves in it: it's a win - win situation.

I heartilly concur. most defiantely a win win there.

[Smachaz]

Mythic has outlined the Dwarf and Greenskin classes. Now they are starting on the Empire and Chaos armies. Is it too late to start a petition to scrap both of the elf armies and just concentrate on what we have? Game would be out sooner and it wouldn't have elves in it: it's a win - win situation.

But i waws looking foward to killing elfy gerly-men :confused:

[MachiavelliDisciple]

[FONT="Palatino Linotype"Let the hate flow through you...[/FONT]

Yes, join the dark si- *cough* I, uh, I mean worship the chaos gods. Yes, that's it... Chaos gods.