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Cookster5
09-04-2006, 07:16 AM
I remember seeing a few screenshots of Orcs with bows, but when I looked at the Games Workshop site, Orcs seemingly don't use bows anymore, only Gobbos can....what gives? I always thought Orcs with bows seemed a bit 'wrong' anyway, all true Orcs want to fight up close! :D

Gobla
09-04-2006, 07:22 AM
I remember seeing a few screenshots of Orcs with bows, but when I looked at the Games Workshop site, Orcs seemingly don't use bows anymore, only Gobbos can....what gives? I always thought Orcs with bows seemed a bit 'wrong' anyway, all true Orcs want to fight up close! :D

They still exist in the armybook. They;re even cheaper with the new book.

Models may or may not exist in the next edition. They did/do exist in this editions battalion.

ConverseSC
09-04-2006, 08:57 AM
Who says that just because Orcs don't use bows in the TT, they can't in WAR? Who says that they don't use bows in the TT period? :p Isn't this game based on 4th edition anyway?

Ralzar
09-04-2006, 09:02 AM
Supposedly, Orc Ironclaws (formerly known as Battler/Berserker) is both a melee and ranged DPS class. So they can use both bows and melee weapons. Maybe you can develop them into either an Arrer Boy or a Choppa Boy. Or something to that effety.

Cookster5
09-04-2006, 10:09 AM
Supposedly, Orc Ironclaws (formerly known as Battler/Berserker) is both a melee and ranged DPS class. So they can use both bows and melee weapons. Maybe you can develop them into either an Arrer Boy or a Choppa Boy. Or something to that effety.

I hope Orcs can't hit things very well just like in the tabletop game though :p

BuckFlashback
09-04-2006, 10:59 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v259/WebsterJAC/Warhammer/Conflict/DSC02533.jpg

Arrer boys! They're new, they're metal, and may have a limited release(I'm not sure). And, of course, they are still part of the new O&G armylist.

Gobla
09-04-2006, 11:31 AM
what gives? I always thought Orcs with bows seemed a bit 'wrong' anyway, all true Orcs want to fight up close! :D

On a side note:

It's quite orcy to use bows. Picture this: You're an orc warboss. You were just massacred by for example the wood elves. So you ponder why you lost, you immediatly notice: 'Dey gut bowz!' So you're orc mind immediatly connects bows and winning. Now you wouldn't give bows to the gobbos, i mean gobbos are not to be trusted. Also you don't want to use a bow yourself, you want to smash skulls. So you tell any orc regiment to start using bows, seeing as you're bigger they obey. Then that orc regiment, unwilling to use bows will look for smaller orcs. If there are any they will get stuck with the bows, if not they're stuck with the bows since giving them to the gobbos will get you an enraged warboss.

Kazgut
09-05-2006, 01:43 AM
Bowz is fa winnin!

Ishamal
09-05-2006, 11:17 AM
The thing I always use Orc arrer boyz for the in TT game is the fact that they can shoot, then they are just as good as unequipped boyz when it came down to the fighting, so, if(Gork forbid) I had to camp a spot, or just wait for a turn or two, my boyz could unload a couple rounds, slow the enemy down, then still be effective in combat, so if they made it so you could soften up and slow down an enemy from a distance, then pull out a choppa and rip them apart when they got close, then I'd take a bow, and hope I didn't shoot my foot like my arrer boyz tend to do :p

Kaikai
09-05-2006, 02:40 PM
night gobbo archers are fun too, hordes and hordes of them for the win!!

i hope to see both goblin and orc ranged types in the game personaly.
i either hope that ironclaw becomes a goblin and orc class, or that the gobbo squig hearder isnt a weak caster style class and can wear soem heavier armor, mabey a weapon or two, or, of course, a bow :D

Stuntie killer
09-05-2006, 06:37 PM
this game was made BEFORE they got rid of arrer boyz.

Cookster5
09-06-2006, 10:10 AM
Okay, so Orcs can use bows, but they aren't the greatest marksmen in Warhammer are they? Do you think this will be reflected ingame, or will that just annoy Orc bowmen? :D

Kaikai
09-06-2006, 02:56 PM
Okay, so Orcs can use bows, but they aren't the greatest marksmen in Warhammer are they? Do you think this will be reflected ingame, or will that just annoy Orc bowmen? :D

i think they just rely upon having bows that have such a huge pull that the arrows kick like a horse and pin people to trees. =P
who cares if you dont hit that often, IF you hit, you can punch a hole through someones armor and probaly out the other side.

Klitch
09-06-2006, 03:21 PM
i think they just rely upon having bows that have such a huge pull that the arrows kick like a horse and pin people to trees. =P
who cares if you dont hit that often, IF you hit, you can punch a hole through someones armor and probaly out the other side.

Orc bowman hit rate? 5%
Kill per hit ratio? 1.5 kills per hit

hmmmm..... Ya i'd do that

Bigvinuy
09-06-2006, 09:51 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v259/WebsterJAC/Warhammer/Conflict/DSC02533.jpg

Arrer boys! They're new, they're metal, and may have a limited release(I'm not sure). And, of course, they are still part of the new O&G armylist.

New,....Metal?!? then what in Sigmar's name are those plastic things i've been painting these past few days :confused:

their purpose is to shoot a volley or two and then charge in on the enemy with +1 strength choppa attacks