What dwarf class will you play?

[Clave]

Title says it all. I am planning on playing a dwarf and just wondered how people will be spread out among the classes.

I know many of you want to play Slayers, but I've excluded them from the poll because I want to know the confirmed classes.

Oh, and if there is another thread like this one I didn't see while searching, I apologize.

[Snorri]

I dont know :( They are all so cool....

I really want to play an ironbreaker, a Engineer, and a Hammerer :p
But ultimatly a slayer.

Will vote hammerer :D

[Clave]

You're right, I should have added an all, I know that's what I'll be doing in the long run. Oh well, too late now.

[Purex Deathstalker]

Rusty MCboomstick wants to be an engineer
Or become Rusty MChammer (PUNTACTULAR)

[Zakat]

Wow, the poll scares me. Hammerers, Ironbreakers, and Rune Priests are all at 18.18%, while Engineers are 45.45%.

Creepy numbers. Of course...only 12 people have voted =/

Hammerer ftw.

[Scirrocco]

Depends. I'd like to be a hammerer, but i tend to avoid melee classes in MMO because even in the best games, lag always makes people not where they appear on your screen. If melees to problematic, then probably engineer.

[Thorval]

i'll be engineer since engineer dwarfs were my fav GW miniature evar.

[Bolg]

I dont know :( They are all so cool....

I really want to play an ironbreaker, a Engineer, and a Hammerer :p
But ultimatly a slayer.

Will vote hammerer :D

We have same mind Snorri.

It's scary.

:mrgreen:

[Clave]

Looks like for the most part there's a fairly even amount of each class, except Runepriests.

Come on, Runepriests! We need you! What kind of a Dwarf army has no runes?

Guess I'll go ahead with making my 2nd character a Runepriest :)

[Grombir]

I said it before and I'll say it again. Engineer all the way.

[Baron Khaine]

I JUST WANT MAKE THINGS GO

BOOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!

Engineer btw if you didn't get my subtle answer

[PicusBritanicus]

One thing is for sure, I will play a dwarf... The hammerer seems more my play style but the Engineer sounds to cool to not try first :)

[arthurfoxshot]

I'll probably play runepriest since they look like there going to be the least played:p

[Talic]

Hammerer the only dwarf class I think i'll play, maybe Ironbreaker if I find out they really can do something worthwhile in RvR. In most games the Tanking classes do everything not worthwhile during PvP, like 'poke' people with one handers for little to no damage while their team mates get slaughtered.

[dawraith]

Coulda swore I saw this post before somewhere... anywho I chose Runepriest.

[Bloodstorm]

Engineer, but my first alt is going to be a Squig Herder. :p

[silverbeard]

I shall be an ironbreaker. Protect my friends and smite my enemies!

[Droki]

Ironbreaker all the way lads. :dwarf:

[elthareon]

ill be dead before i play a dwarf!, what am i doing in this forum:shock:

[Clave]

Yeah, bugger off, pointy-ear :p

[Snorri]

"Elf forums thataway" --->
*Points to the great burning forge*

"Make sure tae smear yerself in this special petr--- err... soothing balm lotion before stepping inside!"

[elthareon]

is that smoothing balm organic? because if its not there will be hell to pay!:twisted:

[arthurfoxshot]

clear off our forums filthy pointy eared freak.You elflings are just jelous of the suphiror dwarfs so you hang around our forums;) So what elfling class are you gonna play? Snorri has some good ones for ya:p I tihnk the digger would suit you.

[elthareon]

ha! we all know those classes best suit the stunties.

[arthurfoxshot]

Really? do you atchly know anythin about dwarfs? If there best suited for dwarfs then why is there a full magic class?The magnet sure aint dwarfy but very elflingy since msot elfs dont have any arms after dual with a dwarf.:-P


Also,the elfs are the ones that cant even make decent weapons so there best suited with plastic shovels.

[Snorri]

Really? do you atchly know anythin about dwarfs? If there best suited for dwarfs then why is there a full magic class?The magnet sure aint dwarfy but very elflingy since msot elfs dont have any arms after dual with a dwarf.:-P


Also,the elfs are the ones that cant even make decent weapons so there best suited with plastic shovels.

He speaks the truth ;)

[elthareon]

elf's cant make decent wepons? ever seen a swordmaster blade? it will slice through you like you are jelly. and as for our 'magnets' try saying that to teclis, the greatest mage in the warhammer world.

[MachiavelliDisciple]

Firstly: if I play a dwarf class (I am considering one for an order alt) it would most likely be the engineer. From what I've seen they have a very interesting look and feel; and the idea of blasting greenskins to bits with a variety of explosives is just too tempting to pass up.

Secondly: while perhaps high elves have some weapons of merit I believe it to be a universal concensus that dwarven steel imbued with runic magic is superior.

[Cremok the feared]

I probably won't have a dwarf but if i did it would be a hammerer. the Battle momentum rule sounds so cool...

[arthurfoxshot]

Well to be fere,there better weaponsmiths than orks^^but still nuthing compared to dwarf weapons:D

[Snorri]

elf's cant make decent wepons? ever seen a swordmaster blade? it will slice through you like you are jelly. and as for our 'magnets' try saying that to teclis, the greatest mage in the warhammer world.

Ok being 100% fair and unbiased then.

1) Teclis is an almighty mage with tremedous power. But the argument was that dwarf's dont use magic, so "The Magnet" is more likely an elf class than a dwarf class.... if a class at all ;)

2) Yes yes, elf swords are all fine and fancy:
Quoted from GW when talking about dwarfs smiths and inventions:
No other race – not even the great craftsmen of the High Elves – can rival the care and skill of the Dwarfs.


Our weapons are sturdier, finer and greater than that of the elfs ;) Dwarfs are the ultimate craftsmen.

That includes armour too, so Gromril armour could withstand three of your fancy swords, whereas elfen armour could be crushed by a single dwarfen axe!
Ok, that last part was slightly biased :p

[Urkdrengi]

Ok, that last part was slightly biased :p

Nope, your first instincts are correct Snorri.

Dwarfs do not lie - just set the record straight.

Dwarfs are the superior craftsmen. This includes the making of magical weapons, armor and talismans. Elves are the superior spellcasters (for Dwarfs have none). Anyone who say’s otherwise is probably an elf.

Do not despair Elflings, I’ve already told you far more than you deserve. Elves are still better craftsmen than manlings. Of course, that’s not saying much.

[elthareon]

well i never said we were better craftsmen than you dwarfs i would be a fool to think that, im just saying we can make wepons worthy of battle, and not plastic shovels lol.

[Zakat]

well i never said we were better craftsmen than you dwarfs i would be a fool to think that, im just saying we can make wepons worthy of battle, Against anything but dwarfs.

There you go, fixed.

[Doom]

slayer.

aww it said my message was to short so now i have to type stuff that i dont want to read .sad day indeed.:(

[LordSoth]

runepriest here! that is of course if by rune priest i can eventually fashion runed items....(hope)

if rune priest turns out to be a silly cleric or healbot then point me in the direction of hammerer

[LordSoth]

come to think of it. If they don't allow rune crafting I may have to change my choice of race and go human!:oops:


or :chaos:

[LordSoth]

imho the coolest part of being a dwarf was being a rune smith and eventually a runelord! the idea of making gromril weapons/armor and then adding some sweet runes...:cool: ooohhh yeah!


i'll be forced to shed tears if the rune priest turns out to be a healbot.:(

[1337mojo]

The Eng looks like the coolest class out of all of them... it'd be cool if you could cross class a eng and slayer just like the engeenier in the book.

[Maximas]

I have to play a hammerer first. At some point though i think Ill have all 4 dwarf classes.

[drunkmime]

I plan on playing a Runepriest considering this is the first time I've ever seen a 'support class' as looking like a fun/intresting.

[lordpriest]

iron iron iron iron o my god the is me lol but i am play in a human priest

[3eeve]

Dwarf Runepriest.

This might get trounced by the Empire Warrior Priest. Really depends on what that class is like.

Nothing could ever make me play a panzy elf.

[Irakaz]

Ironbreaker realy interests me. It will probably be my first and prbbably only order class. Maybe engineer as well as chaos isnt exactly known for its non-magic ange capable classes.

[Baron Khaine]

First Class Gunner Baron Khaine, at your service

[Eldrik]

This might get trounced by the Empire Warrior Priest.

We shall see my Human friend, we shall see...

[Vidrak]

I will most definitely make an engineer. But I am still deciding if I want to play Greenskins or Dwarves. More of a decision of what side my friends want to play on :)

[Saucon21]

I voted for the engineer but as it stands now I can see me playing most of the dwarf classes at some point. The engineer as it stand now with the Hammerer seem like very nice classes for me to play. Can't wait to see the skills and the Abitlities in the future to really get a good grip of what classes I would like to be my first.

[Halfhand]

I voted for Runepriest as healer hybrids tend to be what I end up playing. But I'll probably have one of each...better yet, two of each!

As for those that think an Ironbreaker will be useless in PvP - have you ever played a Brute in City of Villains? You keep an Ironbreaker (and yourself) alive for a little while and then watch him carve up the battlefield.

A Grudge is a difficult thing to bear. Paticularly when an Ironbreaker makes you bear it in the face!

[Kraus]

Brutes arent quite the same, they are also a core melee skirmisher arent they? Hammerers fit well into that at the same time.. but yeah, ironbreakers will be quite useful in pvp, dont doubt that.

[Valthar]

Rune priest , though engineer is tempting

[Halfhand]

Brutes arent quite the same, they are also a core melee skirmisher arent they? Hammerers fit well into that at the same time.. but yeah, ironbreakers will be quite useful in pvp, dont doubt that.

Brutes are a little different yes, they actually sit a little in between Ironbreakers and Hammerers. They build power by performing attacks (like the Hammerer), but they don't use it up in order to perform attacks (except for their class special ability, I think). As long as they stay in the fight, they keep getting stronger (like the Ironbreaker).

It is hard to make comparisons with the GW classes as they seem to be fairly unique. But that's a good thing.

[vehemoth]

poll results are as I expected :).

If these numbers stay consistant the Dwarves will have a versatile and sturdy fighting force.

[Kraus]

your polling what will likely result in less then 1% of the playerbase, dont expect them staying the same :P

[vehemoth]

your polling what will likely result in less then 1% of the playerbase, dont expect them staying the same :P

Well i expect engineers to be the most popular, with the other dwarf careers to be about even in player distribution.

[Balthemor]

It should stay reasonably the same sorts of number. Unless the runepriest is a total failure people will choose him because theirs four types of people we're looking for here

Violent people: E.G me who want to belt the holy shitzen out of something

Defensive people: People who like to deffend and make sly remarks at the same time

Boom headshot people: hehehe Guns are fun

Fantasy people: People who like the idea of magic and most likly to go crazy on the game

if you can satisfy all their needs indivisually it'll be an even player base. And i doubt engineer will be the most popular by much simply because he doesn't fit alot of peoples tastes like me i am a "violent" person and engineer is a "Boom headshot" person character

[Halfhand]

Actually, looking at the classes so far (from a pure gamers perspective) Engineers seem to be a likely candidate for game breaking ability. Obviously, this is something that Mythic will have to deal with (and probably already are in their design). But, for that reason, we may find that once the game has been around a while, there will be alot of people with Engineer alts for farming and alot of "Chinese Farmer" Engineers running around.

Keep in mind, I'm not talking about over powered characters here. Character power has nothing to do with exploiting AI. And Engineers look likely to be able to exploit AI.

However, I would be very surprised if the Hammerer was not the most popular Dwarf class come release. A large portion of the gaming community (that don't turn up on forums like these and don't get involved in game development) favour the offensive tank role. It's generally a simple role and lacks responibility. This will be especially true for a game with no stealth (that is, if this game remains stealth free).

[Julius]

I will try to play each and every class. Orcs, goblins, dwarfs and empire. And maybe some chaos and a few elves.


I predict this game will cost me a lot of time...:p

[Eldrik]

I will try to play each and every class. Orcs, goblins, dwarfs and empire. And maybe some chaos and a few elves.


I predict this game will cost me a lot of time...:p

ZOMG!! A MEDIUM!! i think it will cost me more than WoW did :cool: but i dont mind

[vehemoth]

I voted runepriest because they seem like they will have the most strategic abd diverse game gameplay

[Accipiter]

slayer.

aww it said my message was to short so now i have to type stuff that i dont want to read .sad day indeed.:(

And yet slayers are just dwarfs that lost some fight and are so depressed they want to die.

[Doom]

And yet slayers are just dwarfs that lost some fight and are so depressed they want to die.

Die a honorable death in battle.But there not a starter class so i would be a hammerer.
hoping to one day become a slayer.

[Snorri]

And yet slayers are just dwarfs that lost some fight and are so depressed they want to die.

That's completely incorrect.

You don't even of had to have fought a single creature in your life to decide to become a slayer.
It’s about dishonour; not about losing fights.

A dwarf can lose a battle and remain a dwarf.
A dwarf becomes a slayer when he has suffered a tremendous blow to his pride or name.

And slayers do not simply wish to die... and they are too proud to commit suicide. So instead they take the oath and seek a mighty doom in honourable combat to redeem themselves for their shame.

They never fight to lose, they only wish for a beast worthy enough of defeating them to actually do so... so they fight to their fullest potential in every combat - otherwise their death would mean nothing.

Slayers have nothing to lose, which is what makes them so ferocious in combat. And their profession seems to naturally root out those not tough enough to survive, so you can bet your life that any slayer you run into is most likely explosively violent and hardy.

I thought everyone knew at least a little bit about that :p

I hope slayers become a playable option... as it is though I still can’t decide between the Ironbreaker and Hammerer careers.

[Accipiter]

That's completely incorrect.

You don't even of had to have fought a single creature in your life to decide to become a slayer.
It’s about dishonour; not about losing fights.

A dwarf can lose a battle and remain a dwarf.
A dwarf becomes a slayer when he has suffered a tremendous blow to his pride or name.

And slayers do not simply wish to die... and they are too proud to commit suicide. So instead they take the oath and seek a mighty doom in honourable combat to redeem themselves for their shame.

They never fight to lose, they only wish for a beast worthy enough of defeating them to actually do so... so they fight to their fullest potential in every combat - otherwise their death would mean nothing.

Slayers have nothing to lose, which is what makes them so ferocious in combat. And their profession seems to naturally root out those not tough enough to survive, so you can bet your life that any slayer you run into is most likely explosively violent and hardy.

I thought everyone knew at least a little bit about that :p

I hope slayers become a playable option... as it is though I still can’t decide between the Ironbreaker and Hammerer careers.


"Seek a might doom" is a fancy way of saying "I want to die." Any way you say it, they sound clinically depressed.

[GreyWarlord]

No, "depressed" is what happens when uppity orcs and goblins get hammered into the ground.

[Accipiter]

No, "depressed" is what happens when uppity orcs and goblins get hammered into the ground.

Resorting to violence is always a sign that the argument is lost.

[Phil]

I'll be an Ironbreaker for sure.:p

[Snorri]

"Seek a might doom" is a fancy way of saying "I want to die." Any way you say it, they sound clinically depressed.

I'm sorry, but it wasn't just me saying that, it is in the lore.

Slayers are not clinically depressed emos...as much you wish to believe them to be.

They are dying for something they believe in, something they hold in high regard.
If a man chose to die to save his family, you would describe him as a depressive fool would you?

Honour is everything to a dwarf.
As humans, we cannot possibly understand the strange and ancient taboos of their society. Their race is alien to us, but to mock something we don’t understand is foolish to say in the least.
They fight for glory, redemption, remembrance, honour and for the thrill of combat.
If they simply wished to die they would jump off a cliff.

Choose to believe whatever you wish, but the Warhammer lore and several army book editions are against you on this one.

[GreyWarlord]

Resorting to violence is always a sign that the argument is lost.

Bah. Whoever said violence wasn't the answer wasn't asking the right question!

[Accipiter]

I'm sorry, but it wasn't just me saying that, it is in the lore.

Slayers are not clinically depressed emos...as much you wish to believe them to be.

They are dying for something they believe in, something they hold in high regard.
If a man chose to die to save his family, you would describe him as a depressive fool would you?

Honour is everything to a dwarf.
As humans, we cannot possibly understand the strange and ancient taboos of their society. Their race is alien to us, but to mock something we don’t understand is foolish to say in the least.
They fight for glory, redemption, remembrance, honour and for the thrill of combat.
If they simply wished to die they would jump off a cliff.

Choose to believe whatever you wish, but the Warhammer lore and several army book editions are against you on this one.

They're a different race? Um....who do you think wrote the Warhammer lore books? Little short guys with beards?

I'm not mocking something I don't understand. I'm simply the wrong age to think a death, no matter how romantic, solves one's problems.

[Medivek]

Let's settle this, ay? If'n it's short, gorra massive beard an' likes ta kill annoyin' lil' grobi then Ah'm all for et! What say ye?

All I gorra say is this: Mah axe.

Ah'll leave ye'll tae interpret tha' how ye want.

[Grrblt]

Hammerer is the only Dwarf career I'm interested in, the rest seem pretty dull.

[Accipiter]

Let's settle this, ay? If'n it's short, gorra massive beard an' likes ta kill annoyin' lil' grobi then Ah'm all for et! What say ye?

All I gorra say is this: Mah axe.

Ah'll leave ye'll tae interpret tha' how ye want.

Heh, much better.

[Balthemor]

Hammerer is the only Dwarf career I'm interested in, the rest seem pretty dull.

Hmmm so throwing homemade grenades at the enemy is dull?

If you think all the dwarf classes are dull then go be a fugly chaos servant. If anything the hammerer is dull from other peoples point of view : Go in with a hammer and hit stuff sounds fun (Add sarcastic tone here)

[Grrblt]

Hmmm so throwing homemade grenades at the enemy is dull?

If you think all the dwarf classes are dull then go be a fugly chaos servant. If anything the hammerer is dull from other peoples point of view : Go in with a hammer and hit stuff sounds fun (Add sarcastic tone here)

Throwing homemade grenades is really dull. And have no doubt, I will play probably all of the Chaos careers before I try a Dwarf. Chaos is way cooler.

[Balthemor]

Throwing homemade grenades is really dull. And have no doubt, I will play probably all of the Chaos careers before I try a Dwarf. Chaos is way cooler.

Yeah chaos is cool they tried really hard to be uglier than an ork but no one could be uglier than an ork

[Phil]

To be honest I'm not a fan with the "technology" (guns and cannons etc.) in Warhammer world but I'll be rocking the Ironbreaker.

(You can bet my tabletop army has no gunpowder, gyrocopters, rangers or miners).

[Smachaz]

I'll probably an Ironbreaker, they seem to be the most honorable of the bunch. They use there grudges to beat the crap out of greenys and emogod followers.

'' It is said that there are few warriors in the world who can boast they are as tough as an Ironbreaker, and none that can prove it.''
Next to slayers there the next best thing, but then again, i'm sure a good Ironbreaker could keep up with a slayer.

[Snorri]

They're a different race? Um....who do you think wrote the Warhammer lore books? Little short guys with beards?

I meant that they are no longer traditional dwarfs; they exile trhemselves from society.
And thats the truth of it :p And a death can solve problems; Grimnir marched to the chaos wastes and died to send the four gods of chaos back through the gate after a harsh beating.
If he chose not to, well, your daddys would be living it up right about now in the Empire. :p He chose to fight them and died heroically in the process, and the world ended up better for it... from our point of view anyway. ;)


And yea, I still can't decide between Hammerer and Ironbreaker... :confused: :cool:

I'll prolly end up playing all four classes to hell and back :D then I'll make agreenskin alt.
Make that five if we find out how slayers are added!

[Grrblt]

Yeah chaos is cool they tried really hard to be uglier than an ork but no one could be uglier than an ork

This comment is funny because it is coming from a meatball with hair.

[Snorri]

A powerful and deadly meatball of hair.
And that meat is all muscle.
And that hair is aaaallllll hair.

[Willstar]

Prolly a twink ironbreaker. They were always my favourite in my small TT army. :)

[Balthemor]

This comment is funny because it is coming from a meatball with hair.

Just to add to what snorri said

Shutup you overgrown piece of dirty fungus

[Grrblt]

Just to add to what snorri said

Shutup you overgrown piece of dirty fungus

Oh no he told me to shut up, what ever will I do? :(

Fungus? :confused: Well, it isn't the first time a dwarf's vision is impaired by his beard.

[Smachaz]

Oh no he told me to shut up, what ever will I do? :(

Fungus? :confused: Well, it isn't the first time a dwarf's vision is impaired by his beard.

Well, Geeblt no avatar, and a signature that says nothing of a certain race. There ain't much to see...but id bet your either one of those big weak minded chaos fans or a Ninja wannabe Elf fan.

[Grrblt]

Well, Geeblt no avatar, and a signature that says nothing of a certain race. There ain't much to see...but id bet your either one of those big weak minded chaos fans or a Ninja wannabe Elf fan.

I'm neither big and weak nor a ninja wannabe, but you're right that I like Chaos and Elves. I'm sure you are mighty proud of your looking-in-the-other-threads skills now.

[Balthemor]

I'm neither big and weak nor a ninja wannabe, but you're right that I like Chaos and Elves. I'm sure you are mighty proud of your looking-in-the-other-threads skills now.

Well sorry for assuming your a weak little snotling (Well maybe not) but Grrblt sounds like a name some dumb ork name himself :p

[Stormbrow]

Ironbreaker for me,I've always wanted to fight in the deeps against our eternal foes.

[KroqGar]

I'll probably an Ironbreaker, they seem to be the most honorable of the bunch.

I totally don't belong here but w/e noone posts in the Empire forum.

Wouldn't Hammerers be the most honourable because they fight at the king's side and never leave him even after he is dead.

[Moiax]

I must say that Ironbreakers are my favorite unit in my army, and I love their full Gromril armor look. I will like to have one of each, time permitting, but I will start with the dependable Ironbreaker.

[Raseri]

Rune Priest all the way!! :cool:

[DwarfRunepriest]

Totally a runepriest!!! I was hoping they would be the least played because thats what I enjoy playing.

[Balthemor]

Totally a runepriest!!! I was hoping they would be the least played because thats what I enjoy playing.

Why least played? If less people play a certain type less attention will be payed to it. Engineer looks most popular so obviously the engineer will have the most people working on it to make it as good for the people who play it where least popular the runepriest will have less people working on it because less people chose it.

[Okri]

Well, all-in-all this looks very even.

[Willstar]

Aye, t does look even. I'd still want to play an ironbreaker if ever I make a dwarf alt. Hell, if only for axe & full armour, I'd play em! Ironbreakers are my favourite mini's on the TT got several still waiting to be painted, holed up inside my box, together with a half painted amount of Tyranids. Heh, they're having a blast in there. Literally.:)

[Krulltak]

Definatly going to have an engineer alt as the idea of blowing stuff up ala the Mercenaries commerical (Blow stuff up, Keep blowing stuff up....blow the living crap out of it.... blow the living crap out of if again) is an appealing idea.

[Instant_Karma]

I voted Engineer, and I must say at least according to this poll, the amount of people playing dwarf classes seems more balanced than empire. 47% Witch Hunters, I was hoping I'd be in the minority.

[STARSBarry]

Engineer my logic being.... if i can build a hammer why cant i attach a scope to it.. SCOPED WAR HAMMER for those long range melle attacks. I hope the crafting system lets us Engineers tinker with the weapons of others... possible making the worlds first exsploding sword wahahahahaha

[Okri]

Well, a gyro-mechanic hammer with a built-in hand-gun, or a crank powered chain-axe, or just an axe with a spinning blade could be interesting.

[Ghorin Stonebeard]

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[Pigskin]

Im Ironbreaker all the way. Who doesnt love being entirely covered in iron plates? :rolleyes:

[Hyro]

Well, a gyro-mechanic hammer with a built-in hand-gun, or a crank powered chain-axe, or just an axe with a spinning blade could be interesting.

you sound like a gnome....

[Krulltak]

Im Ironbreaker all the way. Who doesnt love being entirely covered in gromgril plates? :rolleyes:

dwarfed it for ya.

[Bloodstorm]

dwarfed it for ya.

That's Gromril ya weedy snotling-fondler!

Orcs will never match out skill when it comes to dwarfing, I 'spose.

[Okri]

you sound like a gnome....

What's a Gnome? Are you talking about Halflings? Because, in all honesty, I have never heard a Halfling talk like that. They think too much about food.

[Jacktheinedible]

i believe he is reffering to dragonlance style gnomes, which have an intense interest in technology, and often make things so complex that they generally dont understand them themselves, not to mention these inventions are often prone to failiure/explosiive failiure

[versuvius]

like mine then really...sept safer...the US army has put safety catches on granades to make em safer...THERE GRANDES! not supposed to be bloody safe

[Ghorin Grimbeard]

I haven't yet decided, but it's leaning towards rolling a Hammerer, as I've allways liked to play offensive light tanks. However, the Ironbreaker class is very interesting aswell. It seems to be the first tank class in a MMO that actually will be viable in PvP (along with Black Orcs and whatever, but playing a green, drooling and overgrown retard just doesn't appeal to me).

With that said, I voted Hammerer, but I might change my mind before the release. It will come down to either Hammerer or Ironbreaker though - that I'm certain of.

[Zeb]

You won't be too much changed from your WoW Dwarf Warrior :D

I'll do a RunePriest, since I love Dwarfs, I love support, and I like very much the direction Mythic take by making all classes, and this one, decent in damage.

[Fires from Hell]

Depending on how many characters we get per account, i'm going to have a Ironbreaker Dwarf, probably a High Elf, and a Dark Elf, and a Chaos character. I personally like elves, because i love the supportive roles, but i'd also want a tank toon and Ironbreaker looks like it's a good tanker :). I def want one of the Chaos toons as well, undecided which though. The Greenbacks just look stupid lol, so they're out. Don't like the look of any of the Empire people, so they're out. I'd probably have a spellcasting elf for the dark side if there is one. I have absolutely no idea about what warhammer is, but it looks fun :) It combines a lot of the stuff i liked in Guild Wars and gets rid of a lot of the stuff i didn't like in it.

[Rhordar Ironbreaker]

Simple, Dwarf Ironbreaker!

[Odro]

HAMMERER FTW!!!!

(and maybe a runepriest alt :D)

[Makesfolkslose]

All four seem really interesting to me. My opinions as of now:

1. Engineer
2. Runepriest
3. Hammerer
4. Ironbreaker

[Solarov]

Looks like the percentages are more spread out than I thought they would be.

I have to pick and engineer. I played as a dwarf hunter/engineer in WoW and an engineer in WAR would be a vastly superior version on the one in WoW.

[BlueNinjaFerret]

I want to be Bugman, a Drunken ale brewing Dwarven Ranger Muhahahahahaha

[versuvius]

bugman is a person...you can buy his figurine at GM i bought a good sized dwarf and a good orc army...bugman is in my dwarf army

[Wardrum]

Engineer!!

[versuvius]

ENGINEER OR BLACK ORK!! ill be making 2 chars lol

[GreyWarlord]

Bugger off, greenskin.

[versuvius]

*kicks greywarlord out of the window* ...hah stupid stuntie

[kratth]

things that go boom make me hot, so its engi for me.
That and striking face in the name of Sigmar.

[versuvius]

i like the big guns too....*drool* and i like my choppa...its all good

[Pedesvir]

Ironbreaker - suits a mentality I have now in WoW. Main main is a prot specced dwarf meatshield and I cant seem to get a grip on any other play style.

That said Ironbreakers will also look like walking tanks! I love the look of them and thats a huge selling point for me too!

[Aquinas]

I'll make a dwarf toon, just because I love engineering stuff. Grenades, nasty tools and whatnot is just awsome!

[versuvius]

how can you refer to a character a toon...thats just daft really

[Snorri]

We used to call them "toons" in AC... I cant remember where it originated from though. We tend to call 'em characters or chars now.

[versuvius]

ah i see...my bad....not knowing old terms ect ect

[Nezumiiro Kitsune]

HAMMERER! What says Dwarf more than a bit of Hammering! Its in yar blood! Engineering, aye its Dwarvish alright but its not in yer roots. Arr Dwarfs shouldn't be tinkering about all day they should be Carving Great Halls with ya bear hands (and heads in some cases) and Writing history of the Blade of an Axe and the Flat Cold Justice of a Hammer (and in some cases the knobbly knobliness of a good ol' head) Its unnatural all this tinkerin' boverin with things that aren't meant to be bothered in. If yar gotta tinker do in in a plant pot after a few hundred Bugmans.

[Snorri]

HAMMERER! What says Dwarf more than a bit of Hammering! Its in yar blood! Engineering, aye its Dwarvish alright but its not in yer roots. Arr Dwarfs shouldn't be tinkering about all day they should be Carving Great Halls with ya bear hands (and heads in some cases) and Writing history of the Blade of an Axe and the Flat Cold Justice of a Hammer (and in some cases the knobbly knobliness of a good ol' head) Its unnatural all this tinkerin' boverin with things that aren't meant to be bothered in. If yar gotta tinker do in in a plant pot after a few hundred Bugmans.

You'd fit right in with the traditional dwarfs of Karak Hirn, they have little to do with engineering and put their faith in the tried and tested method of hammers and axes!! ;) Welcome aboard!

No problem Verv, I don't really understand it either. :p

[V'raneth]

Which class is the smelliest?

[versuvius]

netzimoron kitzstupid....iv know him for 11 years... hes waaaaaaay stupider than me in a deranged fasion and hes a hit! good lords...karl (other member of the goon gang) is right. ni matter who i am or pretend to be or am in not-real-life everyone hates me in general...even without setting dwarfs beards on fire

[Snorri]

Which class is the smelliest?

You have to wait for the elf forums, they have the smelliest classes, as their insides are all leaking from their gutted stomachs. And they tend to lose control over their bladders once you remove their skulls from their shoulders.
Not that they could ever control their bladders anyway... cowardly snotlings.

[arthurfoxshot]

Am really looking forward for the elfling forums to come^^^ Its very tempting but
I will probably get banned of the site or somthing but atleast
there forums will be buggered:D

[Nezumiiro Kitsune]

Elflings coming here! Bah! Over my skaven ridden dead body! I'll show then the back o' my axe out'a here, or get killed in the process! Banned as it were! Only thing I hate more than an elf is two elves and the only thing I hate than 2 elves is 1 elf that thinks it 2! What class will the elflings play, flower collector, pebble meaning thinker, Tree Huggers! Bahahahaha!*cough cough* ~falls asleep~ Gold... Gold... Lots and lots of Gold... Damn Elflings... Gold... BEER!... gold...

[versuvius]

hey tom!! elves are invading!

[Nezumiiro Kitsune]

~wakes up and swings hammer round clonking versuvius over the head~
WHA! Elves in the hallowed halls of the Dwarf Ancestors! I'll crush em, with me Hammer of Blunt, Untainted, Justice! By the Spirit of Grungi!
~spins round again clonking versuvius over the head~
Wai' a Snotling slayin' second! Theres no sissy, pansies haired, prancing elves! Wha's the meaning of this! Wakin' up a Dwarf while he's havin' Dwarvish dreams of ale in an ale induced sleep covered in wha' appears to be ale! I'd have yur head if it wasn't just a few inches towards the ground, ya bloody tall bugger! Ya dun know the meaning of beard!
~falls into chair and goes back to sleep~
Bloody elf loving pansy.... dunno the meaning of beard... 2 inch axe... gold... beer... oaths... gold...

[versuvius]

*stands up* that wasnt the best idea iv had was it * hits netzii over the head* there...let him go back to sleep...hey! go outside the city gates and theres a years suply of beer for yehz!

[mongoose]

Kind of awesome to see that of the 239 votes thus far, there is almost an equal split between the 4 classes :cool:

[Smccrum]

Out of all the dwarf classes so far, the engineer is the one that appeals to me the most, though I don't really plan on playing any of the Dwarfs as the whole race seems to be somewhat drab.

[GreyWarlord]

Drab? DRAB!!! Roll out the beer, lads! Line up the elves for the firing squads! Start some brawls! Avenge some grudges! Wallow in gold! Bowl with snotlings and orc heads! Blow things up! In other words, carry on another average day in a dwarf hold.

How can you call this drab?

[versuvius]

agree without argument for once in my life

[Snorri]

Don't talk to it, it's obviously an elfling.
Just shoot it.

[versuvius]

ELF WHERE!?!?! *shoots randomly with rifle*...oh sorry..every one whos ale i damaged can get a new one from me

[arthurfoxshot]

Them stinkin filthy elflings still ere in our mighty halls?
Ya better watch out elfllings the more ya come ere and annoy us
the bigger the grudge and the harder we come down on ya wen your forums are up:D

[versuvius]

HAH yeh...in the near future i can see the dwarf and some of the orc poplulation will be banned from these particular halls (forum for manlings and secretly elfs)

[Krulltak]

Actually it's a chaosling, Slaanesh to be exact.

P.S. WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH! You stunties iz all gonna be squig chum by da toim I'za dun wit yaz!:twisted:

Oh and yes, blowing things up as an engineer.!:D

[Smccrum]

Drab? DRAB!!! Roll out the beer, lads! Line up the elves for the firing squads! Start some brawls! Avenge some grudges! Wallow in gold! Bowl with snotlings and orc heads! Blow things up! In other words, carry on another average day in a dwarf hold.

How can you call this drab?
It just doesn't appeal to me, at least not compared to the other races. Though I would probably play a slayer if they make it a class later on. The armor-less thing intrigues me. I guess a better way to put it would've been "all of the current classes for the race seem to be somewhat drab" though that could change with experience playing the game.

[versuvius]

hits smccrum with hammer and shoots into the floor*

well....that ends that discussion, WHO WANTS ALE!

[GreyWarlord]

*stomps smccrum's writhing, spasming carcass*

AH DEWE!

[versuvius]

gret...nah weers the nearest keg o beer...ah bet yeh cant bite the cork oot o theh lid!

[Boulvae]

I geuss i'll dabble a bit as one of dem rune priests.

[Overlord56]

Definatly The Rune Priest with the ability to buff himself then charge into battle

[Corrector]

Runepriest here as well, seems to be a great career/class!

[Joebonanza]

At the moment the engineer class looks by far the most appealing to me..... Throwing explosives, doing big damage and using guns seems great.

Engineers :)

[Black Hammer]

I'm thinking Ironbreaker with an alt. Engineer. Or maybe the other way around depending on which I enjoy more. Hammerer also looks fun, Runepriest seems like a good class but I'm not a fan of their look. Ironbreakers and Engineers just look badass. Runepriest's armor, Hammerer's helmets.........yeah.

[Hyperion]

Hammerer the only dwarf class I think i'll play, maybe Ironbreaker if I find out they really can do something worthwhile in RvR. In most games the Tanking classes do everything not worthwhile during PvP, like 'poke' people with one handers for little to no damage while their team mates get slaughtered.

Thanks to the grudge system and PvP taunts (lowers damage against all targets except the caster) Ironbreakers can't be ignored or greenskins will find themselves with a damage machine that's stupidly hard to kill. I've seen a video on gamespot where an Ironbreaker just ran into a bunch of orcs and took down their shaman, he killed the poor bugger with about 4 guys beating on him before he died, and that was completely solo - no grudges, if an Ironbreaker gets a big grudge up especially on a squig herder or something, that guy's jelly.

[Arin]

Tough call between Runepriest and Hammerer, but I think I'll go with Hammerer. Don't ask me why, but he seems more appealing to me ;)

[Duerghaul]

I've seen a video on gamespot where an Ironbreaker just ran into a bunch of orcs and took down their shaman, he killed the poor bugger with about 4 guys beating on him before he died, and that was completely solo - no grudges, if an Ironbreaker gets a big grudge up especially on a squig herder or something, that guy's jelly.

Wow, would you happen to have the link to that video? I would love to see it.

[Krulltak]

Wow, would you happen to have the link to that video? I would love to see it.

There was also a report about some guy playing a Black Orc taking on 5 dwarfs and killing 3 before going down, solo.

[versuvius]

well he buffed...or fighting weak dwarfs

[Duerghaul]

probably fighting mobs, not actual players.

[Gavin.CoalNose]

O' Course I Like Crushin' Them Skulls With Me Hammer, But There Be Other Ways To Be Make Them Greenskins Drop, Like Me Boomstick For Example, Or The Variety O' Hand Crafted Grenades That'r In Me Pockets! Bwahaha!!

[That A Good First Impression? I Hope So :( haha]
1-Engineer
2-IronBreaker

[Grimr]

Defintly Ironbreaker, always enjoyed their gromril armour look and there job desciptions.

[Okri]

I'm still pleased with how even this is shaping up. The Engineers are a bit ahead, but only by about 10, compared to the rest.

In comparison, look at how out manling... allies, are divided. http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7757

And how those mad Chaos loonies are split:
http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=539

It would seem there is no idea among the grobi how they are divided. Not surprising, since none of them can count.

[Eldrik]

Ironbreaker or Runepriest, depends what is least popular/most needed. (Voted for Runepriest however.)

[Grimald]

I like being a class thats "in need" i.e while everyones off playing the uber dps classes i'm there taking up the tanking roles everyone has to have, so definately an ironbreaker.

Also the idea of RvR with having a line of ironbreakers defending a vital position just seems to badass to ignore.

[Snorri]

I've decided that the Ironbreakers just look to damn cool not to play. And they resemble everything that is dwarfy... Strong, Enduring, Tough, Unbreakable, Unmoving, Grudge-bearing, Axe swinging, Pain Ignoring, Beard Bristling, Tunnel fighting, Down right dangerous warriors!

I will of course, also have to play a Hammerer!!!
So I am looking at two mains... although I have a sneaking suspicion that the Ironbreaker will end up being more frequently played. ;)

[Unstoppable]

I will play Engineer and have a secondary Rune Priest. Like to heal and fight at same time. Currently I am in beta of LOTRO and the minstrel class is damage and healing which is pretty cool.;)

[Warfield]

I'll first unlock the quest to become a slayer. Then do the quest to become an ancestor god. After that, complete the quest to become Paul Barnett: special move - custard storm.

[Oasis]

i'd probably be a enginner but cant decide on whether i want to play rune priest

[Blitz]

I was plannin' to play an Ironbreaker, but due to the fact that Runepriests are most likely going to be in high demand and short supply, I've switched to Runepriest. I think upon release RP's will be underrepresented, but as soon as people start rolling alts they will be plentiful as secondary characters.

I am guessing that early on, I will have no trouble finding groups even when guildies aren't online and as soon as the 2nd wave of Runepriests start showing up....I will actually be good at it while they are still learning, thus increasing my ability to find groups.

Of course, this is all speculation on my part, but this is my story and I'm stickin' to it.

[Datura]

I've always been a fan of blunt weapons, so my choice should be pretty obvious.

[Grimald]

I was plannin' to play an Ironbreaker, but due to the fact that Runepriests are most likely going to be in high demand and short supply, I've switched to Runepriest. I think upon release RP's will be underrepresented, but as soon as people start rolling alts they will be plentiful as secondary characters.

I am guessing that early on, I will have no trouble finding groups even when guildies aren't online and as soon as the 2nd wave of Runepriests start showing up....I will actually be good at it while they are still learning, thus increasing my ability to find groups.

Of course, this is all speculation on my part, but this is my story and I'm stickin' to it.


If you go off the current poll the less used class will be ironbreakers.

[dutch_gamer]

If you go off the current poll the less used class will be ironbreakers.

True, but you have got to realize that even non-Dwarf players may have voted as well. And a poll like this really isn't a good representation of what will really happen. Maybe a lot of people who do follow a game so far in advance hate defensive classes. There can be many reasons why the results are the way they are. But until we can actually play the game and get the feel of class, nobody can really say if they will play the class or not. There is still a good chance that a class you want to play at the moment, plays completely different than you initially thought, thus making you want to play something else instead.

[Ren]

I'll definitely be playing a runepriest. There is nothing better than watching your friends beat the bejesus out of people while you give them heals and buffs and occasionally beat someone in the face with your staff. And having played a fragile healing class before, it will be refreshing to be able to take a beating while doing my job.

[Pseudoman]

Engineer for me. Ill be hiding behind the IBs, chucking grenades and firing my trusty Blunderbuss at the rampaging hordes of Orcs and Gobbos.

[Vimes]

Ironbreaker here.

I always loved the role of the Tank, and in a game where I can guard my teammates even in PvP it would be dumb not to be one as well ^^

So the Enemy has the choice: Break his Weapons on my armor and shield, or avoid me and let my pissed (or grudged ;) ) off hammer/ax break his head.

[versuvius]

yeh, nothing about raging throught the orc front line is unappealing

[rheinberger]

i'm so torn between all four of them. i really cant tell yet what it will be for me but i presume i'll start with a hammerer. it will be a dwarf though that's for sure, dwarves are my choice no1 in any game where it is possible.

[Rurik]

Hmm, wow that's pretty balanced so far. Hope it works out that way on the servers.

[Mortar]

Runepriest, unless some sudden force deters me.

[versuvius]

like being able to wield a organ gun

[Mortar]

like being able to wield a organ gun

That is a persuading force.

[Kruez]

Ironbreaker or runepriest, if I decide to go dwarf. I love tanks, and have played them as my main in most MMOs I've played. On the other hand, I've always wanted to try my hand with a healer as my main (the only healer I played fairly regularly was a defiler in EQ2, which was pretty fun). And WAR's 'healer-hybrids' look fun.

At this point, it's probably whichever looks best after I see more screenshots, but I'm leaning towards Ironbreakers.

[Deanorth]

Hi fellow dwarvish peoples.

Since my first beard's hair appeared, quite some time ago, I've been supporting others, and among other reasons, my path led me where the soul of our faith really shine. I'm Deanorth Kazrin, Runepriest.

[versuvius]

*psst* rune dude, i need, like a rune, putting on my beer glass so its never, like, empty...

XD my best quote yet...

[Black Hammer]

You can't congratulate yourself in the same post. Poor form.

[Jeff9316]

Hamerer all the way!

[versuvius]

whos congratulating who?

[Steel*Faith]

I don't get why so many people love slayers so much? I know why they are cool, but personally what makes Dwarfs awesome is their unrivaled quality of armor and weaponry, slayers don't wear armor which is not really cool IMO (obviously they don't because they want to die, which is even less cool).

For DPS Hammerers are much better, they wear armor, they have horned and winged helms, they have massive hammers, and they are the King's elites. I don't know just seems much more desirable to me. I hope Dwarfs will get runes to put in their weapons. It'll be a nice light show to watch in battle.

[Snorri]

I think what makes dwarfs cool is not just their armour; but their gritty nature and attitude the most - which seems to heighten to new levels as a slayer. And the whole doom thing... their tales are tragic and heroic, their pasts shameful and sorrowful, their goals may seem odd to us - but they are very iconic of the dwarfen nature, and represent the sheer strength of will power the squat race posses.

I agree that Hammers are just as cool though, and look down on anyone who says Slayers should replace them. :p Slayers should be a fifth expansion class. The classes we have atm are just as cool, as any dwarf fan will surely agree! ;)

Runes would indeed be awesome, I hope they added as part of the crafting system - and are not just limited to the spells of runepriests.

[versuvius]

look, slayers are just cool...they are what everyone wants to be. short, strong, drinks beer and has a big axe...

[Scrub]

I really can't decide between Engineer or Rune Priest. Right now, I am Engineer.

[Snorri]

I don't wanna post on them yet, as I am not sure if they are finished. But loving the class threads Scrub - the abilities make it just as hard to choose what to play!! :p

Some of the Hammerer abilities sound awesome!

[Grimgear]

Proudly going to be an engineer. Always played the nuker in every other MMO and really enjoyed their style of play. Can't wait to make a grobbo "bit the bullet".

[versuvius]

or bite the large several kilo rune encrusted ball

[Grimgear]

or bite the large several kilo rune encrusted ball
Oh ya, forgot about that. Even better.

[Lysam]

I love seeing the balance across the board, no lack of Ironbreakers to guard my arse and plenty of runepriests to heal it.

Viva le dwarf.

[Clave]

I never would have expected Ironbreakers to be coming last (at least at the time I post this). I know it's pretty even the whole way across, but I would have thought Engineers and Ironbreakers would be way out in front. And as cool as Rune Priests are, I didn't think there'd be many of them at all.
Life's full of suprises.

[Ruriktheoneeye]

Hammer wielding ironbreaker. i win....

But really tanking is the most rewarding part of the game for me.

[Snorri]

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Pretty well balanced I'd say, with the engineers soaring ahead of course.

Upon release I imagine the "population" to be soemthing along the lines of:
Engineer
Hammerer
Ironbreaker
Runepriest.

I think I've decided upon Ironbreaker as me' main, with a definite Hammerer alt.

[Kulgur]

I'm thinking engineer and runepriest for mine, runepriest might end up as my main depending on how well they can solo (can't do without my soloing, I sometimes play at insane times like 5am and I need my soloing power)

[Piratemike]

Hammerer->Slayer

[Myling]

Im making an Engineer alt for sure.

Guns, Grenades, Mortars and Artillery!

[SwaY]

Mmm i'd be tempted into Ironbreaker/hammerer! bith seem very attractive alts :)

[Festo]

ironbreaker all the way engineer alt

:D

[FaceShatter]

Hammerer is teh hawtness

[Heno]

Runepriest suits me to a T.

It's kinda suprising how incredibly evenly these numbers are spread actually!

[Varcan]

This game definetly offers the coolest Dwarfs I've ever seen. They might just eek out of the least played race for the first time ever.

And I realize that all races have the same four basic skill sets, but the Dwarfs seem to work really well together, possibly just because the devs have spent more time working on them, so I'll just have to see how the other races come along.

But if nothing else fits my fantsy, there just might be a Dwarf Ironbreaker in my future.

[Krulltak]

This game definetly offers the coolest Dwarfs I've ever seen. They might just eek out of the least played race for the first time ever.

And I realize that all races have the same four basic skill sets, but the Dwarfs seem to work really well together, possibly just because the devs have spent more time working on them, so I'll just have to see how the other races come along.

But if nothing else fits my fantsy, there just might be a Dwarf Ironbreaker in my future.


What? No, none of the races share any "basic skill sets", they do howevever share the same basic class template, using the archtypes of "heavy tank, light tank, ranged offensive, caster/healing hybrid.

And by the lore of Warhammer dwarf armies are usually on the defensive and are highly skilled and tight-knight, as the old saying goes:

"A Dwarf army is like a well-crafted mail shirt; each warrior is an iron-hard link, knitted together by duty, honour and loyalty. And, like a mail shirt, never a blow shall pass them as long as all the links remain strong."
- Dwarf saying



They are making all the classes for each faction fit with the way the armies would work in the lore. Dwarfs as you know, are highly defensive, with the best armored troops around, while orcs are heavy on the offensive and it is reflected in thier classes in WAR.

[Neigh]

Alot more Runepriests then I expected there to be
( I will be Runepriest :) )

[Gotrek Gurnison]

anyone else think that they have left out the best drawf class, the slayers?

[versuvius]

HAH!! i dont beleive someone actually got gotrek gurnisson...

[Krulltak]

anyone else think that they have left out the best drawf class, the slayers?

EVERYONE else thinks that, but the devs said they did not want to implement slayers until it would make sense to do so.

[Festo]

EVERYONE else thinks that, but the devs said they did not want to implement slayers until it would make sense to do so.

i bet they are keeping them up there sleeve for an expansion or big patch in the future

i just hope its not in the form of a quest because then the army of dwarfs would consist of 90% slayers

[Okri]

i bet they are keeping them up there sleeve for an expansion or big patch in the future

i just hope its not in the form of a quest because then the army of dwarfs would consist of 90% slayers

Unless it would be a really really hard or long quest/achievment, like becoming a Jedi in the old days of SWG.

[versuvius]

well if slayer is tier 4 or 5 after the updates for tier 6 or whatever could come out as danes or hall lords would be the tiers after

[Snorri]

Slayers should just be a fifth class selectable from the character creation screen, IMO (In a later expansion of course).

Maybe you start off just as a dwarf, have to kill a troll, and perform the Kadrin leap with Troll intestines!
Or whatever.

But they should definitely just be another selectable class, not some elite thing.

[Krulltak]

Yeah, what Snorri said. Its not like slayers are some unbeatable monstrosity like the over-glorified and over-corny Gortrek. They are just berserk madman with a death wish.

[versuvius]

i think malakai is the best...he is determined to break as many guild rules as he can before he dies!

[vehemoth]

Slayers would not fit in with the collective teamplay of the other dwarf careers. If you want to be an RP Slayer, simply fight without armor, grab a weapon and rush headlong at your enemies with no hope of survival. I am sure your allies would appreciate it. (Or perhaps the enemy would more ;) )

It is unlikely that they would be a future career option simply because the careers are chosen based on how well hey would fit each of the 4 archetypes. Being that the archetypes are filled, there would be no sense in adding a 5th career ( second one for the melee dps archetype) just to accomodate the Slayer style.

If anything, slayers would be an esteem title or a inter realm faction that could be assisted.

[versuvius]

well im already a slayer then!

[Snorri]

Slayers would not fit in with the collective teamplay of the other dwarf careers. If you want to be an RP Slayer, simply fight without armor, grab a weapon and rush headlong at your enemies with no hope of survival. I am sure your allies would appreciate it. (Or perhaps the enemy would more ;) )
Of course they would fit in. Aye they are loners, but if you're facing a flock of dragons with no retreat, then by god would you appreciate an iron-nerved slayer standing alongside you! Not afraid to run froward and cleave it asunder! They are brutal killers, and their slaying skills are easily proftaible to any group. Slayers are hardened killers, those who are not tend to be naturally routed out early in their profession, so rest assured any slayer you meet is probably as hard as nails, and obviously nuts.

If the group were trying to sneak up on a dangerous monster though - then the slayer would be a hinderment, because he'd charge in yelling and alert everyone in the near vicinity of the group's presence. But we're not going to be sneaking up on anything in WaR, we're going to be meeting it toe-to-toe.

And taking your cloths off would not be the same as having an actual slayer character :p not cosmetic-wise nor gameplay wise. Because Slayers have certain skills to make up for their lack of armour, that a naked Hammerer would not posses.

It is unlikely that they would be a future career option simply because the careers are chosen based on how well hey would fit each of the 4 archetypes. Being that the archetypes are filled, there would be no sense in adding a 5th career ( second one for the melee dps archetype) just to accommodate the Slayer style.

Unfortunately, here you are correct. It raises the question; what would happen to the Hammerers? And this is only the one single argument that holds any ground with me concerning adding slayers, as it is the only one I have not managed to counter convincingly.

Still, Slayer are iconic of the dwarfen race; just as much as the Gromril-plated Ironbreakers are. If they can somehow think of a way of adding slayers and still keep hammerers viable DPSers - then I say bloody add 'em!

The only 'counter' I can think of is to simply give them a different play-style, more like glass-cannons than the Hammerers. There doesn't have to be a single DPS class for a race, just give them different attractions... Slayers for example could be more lethal than Hammerers, but also die a lot faster.
But that's not a particularly good argument. :p

[Warfield]

Whatever EA Mythic does as far as expansion careers goes, it will be great. Personally I'm not too keen on slayers because they don't wear any armor. However they use axes, which is my preferred weapon.

If an expansion comes out, I'd really like to see something similar to DAoC Master Levels where you could become an advanced career of sorts. This then would open up new abilities. For example, Dwarfs might have the Slayer and Longbeard master level paths. Which could let light tanks use 2-handed axes or dual-wield two 1-handed axes.

I'm not sure they should create whole new classes because a level 1 Slayer or Longbeard just seems silly to me. However, as I said, I am sure that whatever EA Mythic does to implement the Slayer will be great for the simple fact they'll be in the game!

[versuvius]

i hate it when people say they dont like slayers just because they cant put a tanks worth of armour on their heads. i love the way they run in and berserk the hell out of everything, killing the attacker before he can land a blow. Armour is for sissy elves and puny manlings! unless it has some nice exploding runes of protection...THAT would be a sight to see

[Snorri]

Aye a level one Longbeard would be silly.
"Longbeard" should be more like a title though I think, gained through RvR.

A level one freshly-shaven slayer isn't silly at all though, and should be how we begin if we opt to roll a Drengi.

It’s not like we were planning on growing to the power of destructive Daemonslayers, more likely we'll be Trollslayers/Giantslayers. ;)

I'm not a big fan of 'advanced' careers though; I believe it would mess the game up considerably. Which is why I don’t think they should be some elite career, but just a fifth class to choose at the creation screen.

But by god, I'm not saying this as a Gotrek fanboi, but as a loyal dwarf-fan. Slayers are iconic of the dwarfen race; they represent everything that is dwarfy other than the armour! And I’d be extremely disappointed if they were simply forgotten about.

[The Grudgebearer]

Dont ye worry Snorri the Slayers wont be forgotten, atleats not by us Dwarfs.

[Snorri]

Did I ever tell you how much I love your siggy? :lol: :D

[The Grudgebearer]

No you never did Snorri, but please do tell!;)

[versuvius]

you know, that so makes sense...never realised it before

[Snorri]

No you never did Snorri, but please do tell!;)

Very well then.
Your signature is highly accurate, highly respected, and highly amusing.

:lol:

[Krulltak]

Very well then.
Your signature is highly accurate, highly respected, and highly amusing.

:lol:

What you said.

[The Grudgebearer]

Its a truth I think we can all accept. CHEERS!

[Medivek]

Very well then.
Your signature is highly accurate, highly respected, and highly amusing.

:lol:

OOC: QFT, never would have thought Greenscums and Dwarfs would agree on something...but apparently elves are a universally hated enemy...

[Krulltak]

OOC: QFT, never would have thought Greenscums and Dwarfs would agree on something...but apparently elves are a universally hated enemy...


Lol. Actually we hate dwarfs more, because they actually put up a good fight, and when an orc wants you dead and horribly mutilated, it's technically a compliment by thier standards.;)

[versuvius]

well they are tall, skinny and drink piss weak wine...

[DwarfRunepriest]

well they are tall, skinny and drink piss weak wine...
Agreed not like our Dwarfen ale! Again nothing is like our Dwarfen ale, but eepecially not that!

[The Grudgebearer]

None can handle Dwarfen Ale, humans cant handle it and elve's kidneys explode with the taste of it. CHEERS!

[Medivek]

Lol. Actually we hate dwarfs more, because they actually put up a good fight, and when an orc wants you dead and horribly mutilated, it's technically a compliment by thier standards.;)

Didn't say you hated elves more, just that we both hate 'em ;) Though I have to say if you stood an elf and an orc up in front of me I'd be hard pressed to decide which to hew first.

[Snorri]

I'd hew down the elf!! :lol:

But if I were acting truly in character; I would hack down the orc.
Then I would deal with the elfling. :p

[Krulltak]

I'd hew down the elf!! :lol:

But if I were acting truly in character; I would hack down the orc.
Then I would deal with the elfling. :p


One problem though, wouldn't the elfling already by runnin' and scream' at first site of the orc, thus you would be dead soon after?;)

[Snorri]

Eh what?
I wouldn't need that poxy elfing's help in killing the orc!
I'd cut its green ugly limbs off, and then chase after the damn cowardly elfling!

Even if I can't catch up with the long-shanked cretin, he'd soon die of exhaustion long before I gave up!

Or I could just use a rune of flight... :)

Alternatively I could let the Orc mangle the elf to pieces; and then step in.
Or I could help the greenskin butcher the elf, and then have a real fight! :lol:

[versuvius]

all seem good ideas to me! we need a grenade in there somewhere

[Anders8989]

I find it really cool that that every class is very even...

[Medivek]

Eh what?
I wouldn't need that poxy elfing's help in killing the orc!
I'd cut its green ugly limbs off, and then chase after the damn cowardly elfling!

Even if I can't catch up with the long-shanked cretin, he'd soon die of exhaustion long before I gave up!

Or I could just use a rune of flight... :)

Alternatively I could let the Orc mangle the elf to pieces; and then step in.
Or I could help the greenskin butcher the elf, and then have a real fight! :lol:

How abouts I knock the elf out (a nasty glare should do the trick) then we carve up the greenie. After which we revive the elf, hobble him, and give 'im a runnin' start? ;) Should be good fer entertainment.

[Krulltak]

How abouts I knock the elf out (a nasty glare should do the trick) then we carve up the greenie. After which we revive the elf, hobble him, and give 'im a runnin' start? ;) Should be good fer entertainment.


Of course. You pansy stunties get never fight anything yourselvess! Always need a mate with ya! Because ya die by yourselfs!

[versuvius]

come say that to my thundergun!!

[Medivek]

Of course. You pansy stunties get never fight anything yourselvess! Always need a mate with ya! Because ya die by yourselfs!

Ne'er fight anything ourselves? Har! Makin' me laugh boyo. Per'aps teamwork's why greenies have lost so many times, aye? Away with ye! Greenies will never equate to the might of the dwarfs!

[Krulltak]

Ne'er fight anything ourselves? Har! Makin' me laugh boyo. Per'aps teamwork's why greenies have lost so many times, aye? Away with ye! Greenies will never equate to the might of the dwarfs!


You weedy grotz on't notin witout yer foncy arma and stupid flashy magik lettas all ova da place! But da orcz is meant fo' fightin' an' winnin'! We'ze da strongest, and TOO BIG ta be BEAT!

[Medivek]

Too big, eh? Then I'll jus' have to hack yer legs off! We'll see how fast ye can run on stumps!