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LordSoth
10-17-2006, 11:44 AM
in the table top version rune smiths craft fantastic arms and armor. I'm guessing they're changing that up a bit.

What do you hope for? me? I hope they allow rune lords as a class/profession.:cool:

Festo
10-17-2006, 06:44 PM
i hope they cap out the number of dwarves avaible to everyones o when the cap is reached no one can become a dwarf on that server and then overpower the dwarves with kick armor

but thats never oging to happen so im guessing its going to break the lore and they wont have super good armor





i hope im not offending any lore addicts with my poor knowledge

Snorri
10-18-2006, 05:15 AM
Maybe it will work a little like WoW's enchantments.

Whoa, WHOA!!!! Put the axes down lads! Let me explain.

Runesmiths could have a window of available runes. (Like WoW enchanters have a window of all known enchants.) Then they simply target the weapon and get to work!
Alternitivily, runesmiths could be NPCs, and it costs huge amounts of golds to get those immense runes, and maybe you have to hang around for smith to finnish his work.

In any event, I think it should take notcibly more effort when engraving more potent runes upon your equipment.

Maybe you wont be able to "rune" items you have found. Maybe you can only rune dwarfen items as they are being forged... meaning if you want a runed weapon, the whole things gotta be redone :p

I hope each weapon will only be allowed to have three runes on it, tops. And that only one "master" rune is allowed on each item. (Rule of Runes)
I hope to see runes like "might" "cleaving" "fury" ect.

I hope there are no "glowy" effects on runed weapons, like WoWs pathetic burning animations, or sparkly blades, or lightsabers. Keep the weapons looking like weapons... but I think it would be sweet if the runes were actually visible on the item itself.

Some runes will have to be toned down however, or not included at all ;) Like the more powerful master runes.

Here is a list of all the dwarf runes, easily lain out and interesting to read.
http://www.msu.edu/user/cooking3/dwarf.html#dwarf

Here is a discussion we already had on this subject :)
http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4929&page=2

Lakvar
10-18-2006, 08:33 AM
So Lore-wise, can a Dwarven Weapon with, say, a nifty Master Rune find it's way into the hands of someone from the Destruction? Or even Humans and High Elves?
Will rune lords work as "enchanters" for their allies as well?

And what will be the equivalent for the Destruction side? More barbs on the weapon... hardly beats a rune. Poison for gloomy elves.. pff.

Other than that, Snorri said what was on my mind, well done Snorri.
*tosses you a coin*

Apparently, if one is to look for you, all he/she has to do is peek into a thread discussing Dwarves ;) I applaud your allegiances.

~Lakvar, on dwarves needing to be gimped, besides being movement impaired already :p

Snorri
10-18-2006, 09:30 AM
So Lore-wise, can a Dwarven Weapon with, say, a nifty Master Rune find it's way into the hands of someone from the Destruction? Or even Humans and High Elves?

Well, the dwarfs would never reveal their secrets to other races, so the runes themselves and the power behind them would never fall into other's hands.
But weapons have been created by the dwarfs for human allies in the past - the most famous being sigmar, we forged him a mighty runed hammer we did. he certainly put it to good use too...
I suppose there is nothing to stop other races picking up/finding dwarf runed weapons... but orcs tend to prefer their own crudely made choppas, and elfs lack the physical power to swing those massive mallets. I suppose chaoslings might find a dwarfen axe at some point, it is not impossible... although still rare.



And what will be the equivalent for the Destruction side? More barbs on the weapon... hardly beats a rune. Poison for gloomy elves.. pff.
Yea, runes are great arent they? ;)

Other than that, Snorri said what was on my mind, well done Snorri.
*tosses you a coin*
That'll be another drink!

Apparently, if one is to look for you, all he/she has to do is peek into a thread discussing Dwarves ;) I applaud your allegiances.
Indeed, this is my favoured hang out. Best taverns on the forums.

~Lakvar, on dwarves needing to be gimped, besides being movement impaired already :p
Oh! You didn't. :p

LordSoth
10-18-2006, 10:02 AM
So Lore-wise, can a Dwarven Weapon with, say, a nifty Master Rune find it's way into the hands of someone from the Destruction? Or even Humans and High Elves?



absolutely! if you can pick up a runed weapon off a dwarf's dead body...then yup you too can have a runed weapon. but since I don't think they'll allow that in game then i'm sure they'll either not allow runes in game :mad: OR they'll give something comparative to the destruction side.

LordSoth
10-18-2006, 10:04 AM
And what will be the equivalent for the Destruction side? More barbs on the weapon... hardly beats a rune. Poison for gloomy elves.. pff.



From what i've read in the books chaos comes up with some nasty stuff. swords that eat souls, hammers with electrical discharge....and a really cool screaming axe i think....:confused:

dwarf runes are cool but only a fool would underestimate chaos.

Snorri
10-18-2006, 11:50 AM
Oh aye, those screaming chaos amces are nasty ;)
A good fight! Runes Vs The warping powers of Chaos!!

Let that battles begin!
I wouldnt be supprised actually if the destruction side just forged all their baldes with gems of warpstone :p

danteire
10-19-2006, 03:43 AM
Since this is a general topic on Dwarf runes there is a question Ive always wanted an answer for. Do Dwarf runes compress the Winds of Magic into physical forms or is it completely seperate? Its just been bugging me for ages now.

Back onto ingame runes, should there be limits based on your Tier to what rune weapons ya can use and how many runes per weapon? Because it would be a bit stupid if there was characters twinking low level starting players with massive hammers with Master runes inscribed. I thought those were meant to be on only the best weapons for the greatest Dwarf warriors.

And maybe Chaos will find some long lost Dwarf weapons in the Chaos wastes. Just think of how Gotrek got his axe (found in cave on Dwarf skeleton).

Clave
10-19-2006, 05:28 AM
From what i've read in the books chaos comes up with some nasty stuff. swords that eat souls, hammers with electrical discharge....and a really cool screaming axe i think....:confused:

dwarf runes are cool but only a fool would underestimate chaos.

Don't Chaos have demon-possessed weapons? I know they do in 40k, but I don't actually play fantasy. If they do, then I assume they will be the Chaos equivilent to a Dwarf rune weapon.

Crooked
10-19-2006, 07:29 AM
I certainly hope it is possible for Dwarven runed weapons to be used by others, after all, Sigmar's hammer was of dwarven make. I don't know so much about the opposing side using them, but I dont really see why somone couldnt kill a weaponsmith and loot his wares.

Snorri
10-19-2006, 10:58 AM
Of course you elflings want to use our runes... you know they're superior to your flimsy wooden sticks :p

I agree that higher runes should only be available to higher leveled characters.
I agree that dwarf runed weapons could be used by other races/forged for allies.
But I think the stronger stuff would be saved for dwarfs only :p That is just how they are, very protective of their secrets and power.

And yes, chaos would most likely have daemon/warped weapons. Gifts from their gods.

Droki
10-20-2006, 05:36 AM
Yeah, Dwarf armour/weapons can have some pretty sweet little runes on them. Makes choppin a Goblins head off that much easier. But other races have such advantages as well. If I remember correctly, and I do, Chaos have some all-powerful weapons as well, given as gifs from their Gods.

Thes Elves can craft some pretty neat weaponry as well, however, I believe they take a mroe direct approach to enchanting and use the actual Winds of Magic, not Runes, but similar. Empire and Greenskins wouldnt really have such an equivalent however.

If they do add Runelords, which I pray they do, then they will reduce the effectivenss of such enchants, but still make em damn nice to obtain.

:dwarf:

Vegetta
10-20-2006, 09:41 AM
I could see greenskins not wanting to use a runed weapon

Uggg Stunty basha smell funny or Stunty choppa burn fingers

I like the idea of runes - actually it they were dwarf only this could offset the "No Mounted Dwarf Combat" penalty

BobtheDumbDwarf
10-22-2006, 05:11 PM
OH, I have a question too. Are runes carving into items or are they items in and of them selves welded/graffted on to weapons and armor?

Chanticleer
10-22-2006, 05:25 PM
OH, I have a question too. Are runes carving into items or are they items in and of them selves welded/graffted on to weapons and armor?

Neither.
Runes are part of a magical forging process. As the item is being crafted, the runesmith will incorporate the runes into the design. By forging them exactly right in the item, the item becomes imbued with magic. Dwarfs are basically so good at making things that they can make things magical without using magic to do it.

Snorri
10-23-2006, 03:13 AM
Aye, they believe that runes are a gift from their ancestors... and as the poster above me stated, runes are engraved upon the weapon as it is being forged (by a runesmith.)
Dwarfs can create some pretty mean equipment :D

Many of the more dangerous weapons can be found in Karak Kadrin - for obvious reasons.

I wonder if runes really could make yp for their lack of mounted combat? I'm not sure if you can compare the two... but it would be cool ;)