WARDB Update - August 27th

[Adamar]

Today we're very proud to release a fairly significant update to WARDB. This update includes the most requested feature from the community: Scaling Abilities.

If an ability scales in power, as your character levels up or gains mastery points, you can now see these affects on WARDB! Simply browse a spell, and on the detail page you'll now see a series of numbered buttons beneath the tooltip. Hovering over a button will instantly alter the tooltip to show for that specific level. Clicking it will "pin" that level, so that it is automatically applied while browsing other spells. Note: This will not have an effect on ability tooltips in search results, or syndicated abilities (like this that appear on Warhammer Alliance). You will also notice that on our Career Builder, abilities now scale properly depending on the number of points spent in a particular tree.

We've also added the ability to filter search results by whether or not that have screenshots (http://www.wardb.com/search.aspx?browse=1&filters=100=1) or comments (http://www.wardb.com/search.aspx?browse=1&filters=101=1). This was also a highly requested feature from the community.

We hope you continue to enjoy using WARDB.

[Alaniz]

Cool feature... But what about having the Career Builder show the power increase to the abilities as you put more points into the mastery?

[Adamar]

Cool feature... But what about having the Career Builder show the power increase to the abilities as you put more points into the mastery?

It already does that.

[Alaniz]

It already does that.

If it does, it is quite buggy.

For example, take the Disciple ability Khaine's Embrace. At level 40, it heals for 540.

However, when you spec down the mastery path to http://www.wardb.com/career.aspx?id=23#10:552:9:552:0:0:25 (http://www.wardb.com/career.aspx?id=23#10:552:9:552:0:0:25)

it shows it at level 35 and 479 healing, which is consistent with what it should be w/o any mastery points in Dark Rituals.

Unless I'm mistaken, "These Core Abilities are part of this mastery. Each point spent increases their power...." means that putting points into Dark Rituals would increase the abilities BEYOND what they would be normally.

I.e., if at 40 Khaine's Embrace heals for 540, with 10 points into Dark Rites it should be healing for more than with 0 points into the mastery. Currently it doesn't not reflect this on Wardb.com

[burfo]

Today we're very proud to release a fairly significant update to WARDB. This update includes the most requested feature from the community: Scaling Abilities.

If an ability scales in power, as your character levels up or gains mastery points, you can now see these affects on WARDB! Simply browse a spell, and on the detail page you'll now see a series of numbered buttons beneath the tooltip. Hovering over a button will instantly alter the tooltip to show for that specific level. Clicking it will "pin" that level, so that it is automatically applied while browsing other spells. Note: This will not have an effect on ability tooltips in search results, or syndicated abilities (like this that appear on Warhammer Alliance). You will also notice that on our Career Builder, abilities now scale properly depending on the number of points spent in a particular tree.

We've also added the ability to filter search results by whether or not that have screenshots (http://www.wardb.com/search.aspx?browse=1&filters=100=1) or comments (http://www.wardb.com/search.aspx?browse=1&filters=101=1). This was also a highly requested feature from the community.

We hope you continue to enjoy using WARDB.

I do not have permission to access your attached images. :(

[Sanklovich]

If it does, it is quite buggy.

For example, take the Disciple ability Khaine's Embrace. At level 40, it heals for 540.

However, when you spec down the mastery path to http://www.wardb.com/career.aspx?id=23#10:552:9:552:0:0:25 (http://www.wardb.com/career.aspx?id=23#10:552:9:552:0:0:25)

it shows it at level 35 and 479 healing, which is consistent with what it should be w/o any mastery points in Dark Rituals.

Unless I'm mistaken, "These Core Abilities are part of this mastery. Each point spent increases their power...." means that putting points into Dark Rituals would increase the abilities BEYOND what they would be normally.

I.e., if at 40 Khaine's Embrace heals for 540, with 10 points into Dark Rites it should be healing for more than with 0 points into the mastery. Currently it doesn't not reflect this on Wardb.com

The way that the mastery points work in game is that it increases the spell level of each spell, similar to what happens when you level up, you can see this when you add mastery points, the level on the spell tooltip increases. Our career builder starts with the spells at level 25, and they increase with each mastery point

[ndogggg]

What about if you want to see the level 40 natural values of the spell, plus say 5 points in that mastery line? Currently adding 5 points to a mastery line just gives you the level 30 value of the spell.

[Adamar]

What about if you want to see the level 40 natural values of the spell, plus say 5 points in that mastery line? Currently adding 5 points to a mastery line just gives you the level 30 value of the spell.


They cap at level 40. Certain abilities do not level evenly with your character. For instance, you may have an ability at level 30 which is listed as level 21 (until you add mastery points in the associated line).

[lovag]

They cap at level 40. Certain abilities do not level evenly with your character. For instance, you may have an ability at level 30 which is listed as level 21 (until you add mastery points in the associated line).

So do I understand this correctly, certain abilities scale all the way up to level 40 with you as you level and basically at level 40 mastery points have no effect on them?


So mastery points only effect some skills and are basically primarily used as skill unlock mechanism?

[BlindShooter]

Really helpful system, but there seems to be quiet a few issues with it. Increasing masteries shows abilities shifting values in odd was (such as dealing less damage - or even 0 damage).


http://www.wardb.com/career.aspx?id=17#2:0:0:0:0:0:25
http://www.wardb.com/spell.aspx?id=9004

[Arnafein]

Good to see the screenshot filter, makes things a lot easier for us visual learners.

[Fruitpunch]

I do not have permission to access your attached images. :(

Neither do I.

[Arnafein]

Neither do I.
Same. This comes up:

Arnafein, you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:


Your user account may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some other privileged system?
If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation.

[gmanvbva]

Same. This comes up:

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Same here!

[Rik Riorik]

I have a profound respect for the amount of work that has been put into WARdb and Warhammer Alliance since I arrived here early 2006. I think that now, without a shadow of doubt, Warhammer Alliance is the premiere fansite out there, firmly squashing all opposition. At least amongst the old guard of fansites. I've not kept up to speed with any new possible developments.

Currently the DB is a bit crap content wise, but of course that'll change when the game goes live and the community starts interacting and contributing.

[Adamar]

Really helpful system, but there seems to be quiet a few issues with it. Increasing masteries shows abilities shifting values in odd was (such as dealing less damage - or even 0 damage).


http://www.wardb.com/career.aspx?id=17#2:0:0:0:0:0:25
http://www.wardb.com/spell.aspx?id=9004

The tooltip for that spell is bugged at level level 26, in-game as well. When it's corrected, and the servers come back online, it will auto-update on WARDB.

[Alaniz]

The way that the mastery points work in game is that it increases the spell level of each spell, similar to what happens when you level up, you can see this when you add mastery points, the level on the spell tooltip increases. Our career builder starts with the spells at level 25, and they increase with each mastery point

Either this makes no sense on the way the website is handling this issue, or it makes no sense in game.

Explain this to me then:

Rank 40 DoK with 0 points in Dark Rites. Khaine's Embrace will heal for 540.
Rank 40 DoK with 10 points in Dark Rites. Khaine's Embrace will heal for X?

Or... Are you implying that at rank 40, a DoK with 0 points into Dark Rites would have their Khaine's Embrace spell set to rank 30 (just for argument) instead of 40?

[Adamar]

Or... Are you implying that at rank 40, a DoK with 0 points into Dark Rites would have their Khaine's Embrace spell set to rank 30 (just for argument) instead of 40?

This is what I am saying. Some spells do not level with your character on a 1 to 1 basis.

[Alaniz]

This is what I am saying. Some spells do not level with your character on a 1 to 1 basis.

IMHO, this is a simply stupid way for Mythic to design the abilities. If they wanted abilities that you don't spec into to be rank 25 equivilants, they should have spread out the damage or heal of the spells farther while leveling. Having a rank 40 with level 25 spells just leads to confusion and people thinking their toons are broken...

[ndogggg]

They cap at level 40. Certain abilities do not level evenly with your character. For instance, you may have an ability at level 30 which is listed as level 21 (until you add mastery points in the associated line).


Okay. Weird but okay.

Now, how do we tell which abilities this applies to, and which don't? Are all the ones included on the calculators the total of the ones that don't scale up? Are they all rank 25, all spells, unless you have mastery skills in them? And do these all gain a single level across the board for every 1 point you specialize in that mastery?

Do the spells I gain at ranks, say, 1-10, cease to level with me at level 25, unless I mastery in them? Because otherwise this calculator is good for distributing points, but rather misleading for trying to figure out how the masteries are affecting ability strength.