Empire Witchunter

[Garthilk]

PC Career... or just NPC... You decide. :o

[Nathar]

Actually I'm pretty sure that it won't be us to decide;)

No I actually think it could be possible. For the empire weird class. I don't know much of the lore but that's an interesting type of human and I actually hope they'll be in for me to kill 'em.

[Flegler]

PC Witch Hunters all the way. They're iconic warhammer characters, very Imperial, dedicated enemies of Chaos. Also they perfectly fit the lightly armoured, swords-and-pistols wielding role, while being more varied and interesting than pistoliers. Slap a knight or greatsword into the fourth class spot and we've got a nice diversity of Empire classes. If we must be limited to four, that is :rolleyes:

[Spork]

I personally don’t want Witchhunters to be a playable class, because then I would have to play as one when I’ve already decided I that want to play an Orc.

[KroqGar]

I've already commited myself to play the empire dps class unless mounted combat is in. I personally love witch hunters and even have a mordheim witch hunter warband. So, it's a no brainer for me to say I want to play as a witch hunter.

[Chilltouch]

NPC.

You've got the "SIGMAR! *BOOM!*" aspect covered in the Empire already.

P.S. If you didn't get the "boom" part, don't ask. It's best you don't know.

[ChaosDreamer]

PC Career.. all the way.. gotta love the fanatical guys... and just imagine what fun we will have if they ever allow Ulric to be followed in the game :D

[Vikingkingq]

PC! If I can't get bandits, I'll take Witch Hunters.

[Kraus]

I have nothing against them being a PC character personally, but I think I might prefer if they were a NPC class.

[Cranmer]

Now that makes me suspicious...Garthlik comes from GenCon and with no apparent reason starts the thread on the topic which was already discussed to death and everytime ended with a flame war...Garthlik do you happen to know something that we don't? :-? ;-)

[KroqGar]

You scheming, !

*I don't really mean this, Garth. I'm sorry in every possible way.*

[Wulfen]

PC Career.. all the way.. gotta love the fanatical guys... and just imagine what fun we will have if they ever allow Ulric to be followed in the game :D

This is not Warhammer 40.000, and the Holy Order of the Templars of Sigmar (commonly know as Witch Hunters) is not WH40K Inquisition.
The Empire is a polytheistic kingdom, and every follower of one of the traditional Gods (Ulric, Manannan, Taal, Verena, Myrmidia and so on) is not prosecuted or marked as heretic by the Curch of Sigmar or by the Witch Hunters.

The Warhammer Fantasy Witch Hunters are not similar to real-life inquisitors or Warhammer 40.000 Inquisition officers. Sigmar is not the only accepted God in the Empire and his religion is not a monotheistic cult.

[ChaosDreamer]

This is not Warhammer 40.000, and the Holy Order of the Templars of Sigmar (commonly know as Witch Hunters) is not WH40K Inquisition.
The Empire is a polytheistic kingdom, and every follower of one of the traditional Gods (Ulric, Manannan, Taal, Verena, Myrmidia and so on) is not prosecuted or marked as heretic by the Curch of Sigmar or by the Witch Hunters.

The Warhammer Fantasy Witch Hunters are not similar to real-life inquisitors or Warhammer 40.000 Inquisition officers. Sigmar is not the only accepted God in the Empire and his religion is not a monotheistic cult.

I know that :) I have been playing 40k for 11 years and Fantasy for 10.

[Spleen]

What do I hope? PC

What do I expect? NPC

[Seldaren]

Now that makes me suspicious...Garthlik comes from GenCon and with no apparent reason starts the thread on the topic which was already discussed to death and everytime ended with a flame war...Garthlik do you happen to know something that we don't?

Haha... that was my first thought as well :) .

Seldaren

[Lothario]

Witch Hunters PC class all the way baby.

They are iconic of the gritty Empire, and they are roving around burning everyone during times of chaos incursions, which is precisely what chaos will be doing ingame.

A witch hunter would just make sense...and I think they are brilliant!

[Ruinx]

Now that makes me suspicious...Garthlik comes from GenCon and with no apparent reason starts the thread on the topic which was already discussed to death and everytime ended with a flame war...Garthlik do you happen to know something that we don't? :-? ;-)

My thoughts precisely. Garth is a big tease! Who wouldn't be, though, eh? I hope they announce them soon as a PC class, which is surely the only sane explanation for the creation of this thread. It is, isn't it?

If they are a class, I mean SIGN ME UP right now for the Empire 100%. Big hats, cloaks, pistols, swords, I don't know if there's more you can ask for.

[Spleen]

My thoughts precisely. Garth is a big tease! Who wouldn't be, though, eh? I hope they announce them soon as a PC class, which is surely the only sane explanation for the creation of this thread. It is, isn't it?

If they are a class, I mean SIGN ME UP right now for the Empire 100%. Big hats, cloaks, pistols, swords, I don't know if there's more you can ask for.

I hope Garth knows if it turns out they aren't PC we'll have his head on a stick for teasing us like this :empire:

[KroqGar]

I need to know now because I want to know if I should switch my rp character or not.

[Witch_Hunter]

*Crosses fingers* I hope so!

[Seldaren]

An odd sort of thing to add to this discussion.

But a report from GenCon mentions a Dwarf quest in the Marshes of Madness that concerns a Witch Hunter. A *Dwarf* Witch Hunter.

Apparently the guy tried to vanquish the head Vampire in the Vampire Tower, but lost his fight. The quest is to save the poor guy's soul.

But a Dwarf Witch Hunter? That's just odd. That sort of requires a Dwarf to worship Sigmar. I didn't think they did that.

That's two known Witch Hunter NPCs though. One dead in the Marshes of Madness, and one alive in the Black Crag.

Seldaren

[Lothario]

Witch Hunters have been sterotyped into being fanatical sigmarite madmen burning witches and innocent folk across the lands of the Empire, the background and fluff just fits human Empire men better.

So any race could have a character who is a "witch hunter", its just that in the Empire the Church of Sigmar actually makes the men legal and allows them to run around as "Templars" bringing justice and flame to heretics yadda yadda yadda.

The patron God of Witch Hunters is also Solken, who is the God of law and retribution and has something of a huge following in Tilea, as well as the largest Solken Temple found in the Old world. So they don't have to be a follower of Sigmar in the Empire, but it helps as like I said, It's the "Church of Sigmar" who make their actions lawful.

[Cranmer]

Look at the end of Gamespy video part 5 (around 02:20) - i would swore Paul said "Witch Hunter". :cool:

[Bootlace]

Yes, but only if they get Crossbows (in addition to Pistols). While I love Warhammer's renaissance feel, I think theres a risk there arn't enough classes in with more medieval weaponry, which still has a large impact in Warhammer TT, and adds to the flavour. Plus I love crossbows.

I'd also like the Elves to get an Archer as a class, but IIRC Elves will be getting 1 'Conventional' class and 3 'Caster' classes, so I doubt it.

[Halfhand]

I'd also like the Elves to get an Archer as a class, but IIRC Elves will be getting 1 'Conventional' class and 3 'Caster' classes, so I doubt it.

Who ever said that a 'Caster' can't have a bow?

[KroqGar]

Who ever said that a 'Caster' can't have a bow?

Exactly. The shadow warriors have some minor magical abilities and they're very proficient with a bow.

[Crooked]

Look at the end of Gamespy video part 5 (around 02:20) - i would swore Paul said "Witch Hunter". :cool:

I am pretty certain that witch hunter is what he was saying as well, it just fit too perfectly. :) I am exited to see how they work.

[Axxar]

Look at the end of Gamespy video part 5 (around 02:20) - i would swore Paul said "Witch Hunter". :cool:When I saw that I thought, "did Paul just say Witch Hunter"? But a wise man knows to think nothing of it and pretend it never happened. Hm hm hmmm, still pretending.

[Kraus]

Bootlace, the Adept/Warrior thing was dropped, and as far as we know (since it hasnt been mentioned in A LONG time, and even then the elf ratio was speculative), the adept/warrior ratios were also.

[Flegler]

Yes, but only if they get Crossbows (in addition to Pistols).
Crossbow pistols!
http://www.by-the-sword.com/acatalog/images/OD1233.jpg
They had them in Mordheim.

Still, I'd like to see the Empire get plenty of guns. Maybe the tank class will be able to use handguns...

[Nathar]

Exactly. The shadow warriors have some minor magical abilities and they're very proficient with a bow.

When I saw it the first time I didn't really hear it.. but reading this, I viewed it again. I'm pretty sure it's more like " hunter", but I can't be sure. We'll just have to wait and see I guess, cross your fingers there's a new class in the newsletter tomorrow.

[fusilero]

Maybe it's me but it's likely going to be bandit imo since the Gamespy Interview mentioned them..though Witchhutners WOULD be cool =) I have some Witchunters in 40k myself

[Smachaz]

Maybe it's me but it's likely going to be bandit imo since the Gamespy Interview mentioned them..though Witchhutners WOULD be cool =) I have some Witchunters in 40k myself

Well, there higher chances of it being Witch hunters since they said Bandit where a NPC i mean if it where a classe as well why wouldn't they of said so?...

[Illya]

Garthilk, I swear if you made this thread to mess with our heads, and there is no Witch Hunter PC class, I will force feed you your own noodles, as cruel as it may be.

Gods, I'm so excited about this game now. If I get to play a Witch Hunter character after four years of waiting...I'll be the happiest person alive.

[Lothario]

you and me both Illya. I may just cry a single tear of joy happy in the knowledge that I'll finally be able to burn innocent women as witches...aahh good times, good times.

[KroqGar]

I just want to be able to design a character to look like my mordheim with hunter, with the wide brimmed hat, long cloak and a crossbow.

[Vegetta]

NPC
any class could be a witchunter I think witchunter might work as a special title you get for offing so many baddies.

What is a witchunter- someone who roots out eveil in its many forms and exterminates it... so
a warrrior priest could be one or a bright wizard...

the sort of archtypical witch hunter- pilgrim hat, pistols, musty books is a cool look and might be an interesting character choice tho - Iguess it would alldepend on what mythic hand in mind for it...

[Kraus]

Witch Hunters in WH are fairly specific to a Order however, not just anyone and everyone.

[Rik Riorik]

The Empire is a polytheistic kingdom, and every follower of one of the traditional Gods (Ulric, Manannan, Taal, Verena, Myrmidia and so on) is not prosecuted or marked as heretic by the Curch of Sigmar or by the Witch Hunters.

The Witch Hunters Handbook would have you believe otherwise. If that book lends any view on the Templars of Sigmar it is that these deranged lunatics are zealous about the worship of Sigmar to the extreme. Whilst other gods than Sigmar are definetly accepted within the Empire the acceptance certainly does not seem to stem from any edicts of the Order of the Templars of Sigmar.

As for PC or NPC? Love them as PC's, but I'd also like some resemblance of more normal Empire characters that would infact be such that they could form the mainstay of an army. They've got Warrior Priests and Bright Wizards already. Time to bring in the Greatswords and the Knights.

[Amelung]

Witch Hunters in WH are fairly specific to a Order however, not just anyone and everyone.
I will be also an imperial player, but really i think never want to be a witchhunter, for me to special, not what i want to see in mass for imperial warhammer.
Has nothing to do witchhunters are cool (or not), no they are cool ;).
But i would be very disappointed, if there would be more empire witchhunters than soldiers, knights, warriors, also normal champions.

[Illya]

I wouldn't mind at all. But I doubt there'll be so many Witch Hunter players. Despite their awesomeness, most people prefer regular warriors, knights, etc.

[Flegler]

That's just one of the things you have to deal with in MMOs. At least one in four humans you meet is going to be a priest.

But consider: we won't be playing the rank and file, we'll be playing heroes and champions, so it's not too surprising to have a disproportionate number of "elite" classes about the place.

That said I'll probably play the warrior class, just for that regular guy vibe.

[vehemoth]

Not to be on topic, but I'm pretty certain bandits will be in. Witch hunters may be a elective option similar to the dwarven slayer. The bandit fits into the empire very well if u cross witch hunters, peasants and pistoliers. Thats my take anyway.

I think witch hunters will be an elective option because any empire career could take on the responsiblities of a witch hunter.

[Kraus]

Bandits, ala newsletter, are NPC only at the moment. I wouldnt be surprised if a empire sanctioned bandit or somewhat showed up, but otherwise its NPC only atm.

[Smachaz]

Sounds like you know something....*cough*are there templars too*cough*

[spirit]

Not to be on topic, but I'm pretty certain bandits will be in. Witch hunters may be a elective option similar to the dwarven slayer. The bandit fits into the empire very well if u cross witch hunters, peasants and pistoliers. Thats my take anyway.

Considering the fact that Paul Barnett said "we wont be doing bandits", I think you are wrong :)


I think witch hunters will be an elective option because any empire career could take on the responsiblities of a witch hunter.

I reckon it's a PC class of its own which will fill the role of a ranged DPS class using pistols or a crowssbow and maybe a sword for combat

[Timanous]

PC most def i read inheritance its about Witch Hunters and they're bad i really enjoyed it and if i could be one i would love it

[Ruinx]

I wouldn't mind at all. But I doubt there'll be so many Witch Hunter players. Despite their awesomeness, most people prefer regular warriors, knights, etc.

Justify the second part of your statement please, because I find no truth in it whatsoever. I've played MMO since EQ came out, and pen and paper RPGs since 1988, and I've never seen any evidence that "most people prefer regular warriors, knights etc.". Most people prefer the coolest classes available, that's my experience. Few want to be any class that appears boring or dull in comparison.

As for the people saying "Oh there won't be PC Witchhunters" or "Oh, it'll be an elective non-starting class", then I think the fact that Paul Barnett was quite clearly mouthing "WITCH HUNTERS" at the camera in regards to the Empire class he wasn't allowed to speak about in the Chaos videos should probably shock you. I don't think he'd be getting that worked up about an elective class. I might have preferred pistoliers or duellists, but Witch Hunters will do just fine.

[Instant_Karma]

NPC...sadly. If Witch hunter was PC, then I might have to change my mind about being a High Elf Shadow Warrior (no WAY they'll just have pansey archers). I'm guessing for the Empire range it'll be a hand gunner, or maybe some generic archer ranged class who can wield a wide variety of ranged weapons, and then the Greatswords of course. Oh, if they make wtch hunters PC though...

[zenarion]

Quest giving NPC! No WAY a Witchunter is used on open battlefield.

[Kraus]

*points at below*

Peoples proof is Paul mouthing something that is "clearly Witch Hunter", the only thing it really gives off is the impression of two words.. Which could just as easily be Reiksguard, Great Sword, or anything else the Empire army can pull out. I wouldnt put Witch Hunters as too iconic to Empire personally, while they are unique.

[Vikingkingq]

*points at below*

Peoples proof is Paul mouthing something that is "clearly Witch Hunter", the only thing it really gives off is the impression of two words.. Which could just as easily be Reiksguard, Great Sword, or anything else the Empire army can pull out. I wouldnt put Witch Hunters as too iconic to Empire personally, while they are unique.

I wouldn't say that Witch Hunters are specifically iconic to the Empire, but I would say they are iconic in their own right, similar to the way that the Vampire or Mummy is. The flat-brimmed hat, the long black duster coat, the flashing rapier, and the brace of pistols are all part of a stock character - think Solomon Kane, the Puritan Swashbuckler of REH Howard (the creator of Conan); Doctor Christopher Syn, Scourge of the Fens; or the most recent Van Helsing movie. Within the Warhammer Fantasy world, we have the novel Inheritance and the C.L Werner series.

IMO, I think the two best pics for the remaining classes, based on the theme of excess, would be the Witch Hunter and the Greatsword. The Witch Hunter follows themes of paranoia, obsession, the idea that if you stare into the abyss too long, the abyss stares into you. The Greatsword is emblematic of the love of war taken to extremes, the grim veteran with ridiculously huge weapons. Take the cover of the Konrad book, for example. Not only does Konrad carry a sword as big as he is, but he's loaded down with an insane number of swords, daggers, axes, maces - the idea being that a Greatsword is a weaponsmaster at heart.

[saltbush]

. I wouldnt put Witch Hunters as too iconic to Empire personally, while they are unique.

I don't know almost all refrences in lore to day to day life has something about the constant presence (threat?) of the witchhunters. Given they don't have a unit in WFB i find it amazing how much information there is on them (there is a band of them in mordhiem and a couple of special chars but hardly a mainstay unit), i can't think of any other thing that has nearly as much fluff and is not represented on the TT

[Cranmer]

*points at below*

Peoples proof is Paul mouthing something that is "clearly Witch Hunter", the only thing it really gives off is the impression of two words..

Which could just as easily be Reiksguard, Great Sword, or anything else the Empire army can pull out. I wouldnt put Witch Hunters as too iconic to Empire personally, while they are unique.
Try analyzing this video more carefully Kraus. The career name is made of 3 syllables with last one being shorter (Witch Hunt -er). Watch Paul's body movement (especially hands) to see this. We can also see his mouth shaping into a "tube" just before it's covered with the imperial cross. Try saying "Wii" and you'll see your mouth looks exactly the same. The context of the whole speech is also important. Paul compares this empire career to the Magus and says both of them are so extremely cool that the designers don't need to do anything special to make ppl want to play them. Ask ppl around here who is the coolest empire character if you're unsure. :p

It sure ain't a proof of anything but the traces are pretty strong don't you think?

[zenarion]

So we are actually down to lip reading Barnett?

[Flegler]

Come on, he clearly said "Blade Runner". It'll be a necessary class to balance the Chaos Androids anyway.

[War Weasel]

Bring on the Witch Hunters! I'd love to see these guys, mainly for those spiffy hats. Also the guns, the swords, the whole badass imperial inquisition burning heretics alive on pyre thing. But it's a bonus being able to vanquish the foes of the Empire in a stylish hat.

[Varangarian]

Come on, he clearly said "Blade Runner". It'll be a necessary class to balance the Chaos Androids anyway.

/agree

Chaos Androids do amazing dps.

Seriously, Witch Hunter would be a great call. Its unique, has roots with the lore, and provides the non-magic dps needed. Forget the lip reading, Mythic says no bandits...that means pistolier or witch hunter if they want a class deep in lore.

Besides Witch Hunters will take away from the millions of Warrior Priests you're currently going to see.

Empire might be the most populated race w/ witch hunters and warrior priests. Sorry High Elves.

[ImperialSaint]

i personally am very fond of Warrior Priests and Handgunners. so i would take Handgunners over a witchhunter any day. i dont like them that much. but i think they would be a very useful and interesting class of the empire.

[Vikingkingq]

i personally am very fond of Warrior Priests and Handgunners. so i would take Handgunners over a witchhunter any day. i dont like them that much. but i think they would be a very useful and interesting class of the empire.

I think the downside to Handgunners is that they are stock characters, and pretty much all of the classes to date have been special character types.

[Lothario]

*prays to Sigmar for Witch Hunters*

It's gotta be Witch Hunters in this. No way in the hot inferno that is hell can Mythic not put this beloved and gritty characters into WAR. The Empire is an absolute treasure trove of characters that they could put into the game.

Greatswords, Reiksguard, any of the knight chapters, bandits, wizards (eight lores), priests (any religion), militia, town watch, engineers, outriders, pistoliers, flagellants, spearmen/halberdiers/swordsmen, crossbowmen/archers/handgunners, duelists and god knows what else.

But Mythic have chosen Warrior Priests and "Bright" Mages as the first two classes. Two very iconic images of what the dark, gritty side of the Empire is all about, kinda the sterotyped version as well, which is absolutely blooming great :mrgreen: Death, destruction, religious fanaticism, aggressive and basically nutjobs :p

Witch Hunters just fit perfectly into this. Remember they gotta have an appeal to get people to play them, and I've seen a huge amount of people on the forums who would jump to the chance of playing a witch hunter...god i've been waiting 6 flipping years to play one (don't let me down now mythic...:twisted:)

As Vikingkingq said....most classes to date have been special character types...and Witch Hunters are everything and more...

Also Varangarian I don't think Witch Hunters will take away from warrior priests, they are two totally different classes. The priests are hardcore fighters yes, hammer wielding power houses but they are relgious fanatics, a Witch Hunter doesn't have to be a sigmarite (it helps :rolleyes:) but you'll find many cases in warhammer fluff where witch hunters are just madman who butcher innocents and accumulate a mass of wealth and fame and are seriously lacking in the faith department, many more are simple men whose families and loved ones were slaughtered by the servants of the dark gods and driven to hunting down chaos, the church of sigmar isnt piccy about applicants, any mad man will do to hunt down their enemies :D

They are also armed to the teeth with a huge arsenal of weapons, their knowledge in the arcane and dark arts is what they use to help them defeat opponents, not a staunch belief in that their god will smash their foe to pulp (I would say to any one who wants a look at a great, though extremely shortlived hunter, track down the warhammer collection of short stories book Zavant. The vampire story has a great brief description of a hunter)

As long as Mythic make a point of showing the difference between the two types then I don't think you'll see any one making gains on the other, but warrior priests will be the first thing a seasoned warhammer gamer would look at while the witch hunter would be a class that would attract a normal person with no knowledge of the world of warhammer.

hmm...I've rambled on once again. I can't help it. I'm absolutely devoted to playing a Witch Hunter in this game...and if mythic doesn't make it happen...I think I'll go cry...:(

[Vikingkingq]

[LEFT
Also Varangarian I don't think Witch Hunters will take away from warrior priests, they are two totally different classes. The priests are hardcore fighters yes, hammer wielding power houses but they are relgious fanatics, a Witch Hunter doesn't have to be a sigmarite (it helps :rolleyes:) but you'll find many cases in warhammer fluff where witch hunters are just madman who butcher innocents and accumulate a mass of wealth and fame and are seriously lacking in the faith department, many more are simple men whose families and loved ones were slaughtered by the servants of the dark gods and driven to hunting down chaos, the church of sigmar isnt piccy about applicants, any mad man will do to hunt down their enemies :D
They are also armed to the teeth with a huge arsenal of weapons, their knowledge in the arcane and dark arts is what they use to help them defeat opponents, not a staunch belief in that their god will smash their foe to pulp (I would say to any one who wants a look at a great, though extremely shortlived hunter, track down the warhammer collection of short stories book Zavant. The vampire story has a great brief description of a hunter)
As long as Mythic make a point of showing the difference between the two types then I don't think you'll see any one making gains on the other, but warrior priests will be the first thing a seasoned warhammer gamer would look at while the witch hunter would be a class that would attract a normal person with no knowledge of the world of warhammer.
hmm...I've rambled on once again. I can't help it. I'm absolutely devoted to playing a Witch Hunter in this game...and if mythic doesn't make it happen...I think I'll go cry...:(
[/LEFT]

I'm not sure I particularly agree with that description of the Witch Hunter.

To me, the Witch Hunter is the other side of the coin from the Warrior Priest: Witch Hunters are aggressive fanatics, carrying the light of Sigmar into the Darkness, and destroying corruption before it can harm the faithful, while Warrior Priests are defensive fanatics, whose job it is to maintain the spiritual defenses of the men on the front lines, helping them to wage war against Chaos on more even terms.

Interestingly, their faith works in divergent manners. Witch Hunters have primarily defensive and internal uses of faith - they use their belief in Sigmar to ward off magical attacks against their minds and bodies, while using sword, fire, and pistol to deal with the heretic, the mutant, and the cultist. Warrior Priests have offensive and external uses of faith - they use faith to smite the enemy by chucking holy hammers, calling down holy fire, etc. while projecting their faith into their allies to empower them.

[Illya]

I think you have a good point there. You won't see a witch hunter taking on a demon, he'd be squashed into a pulp. As for resisting magic, well. I'd say they have a form of resistance, which draws strength from their faith in Sigmar, where a lesser man would quickly succumb to the spell.

I too would see Witch Hunters as the other side of the coin. Warrior Priests are the ones who are high up in the army, leading it against large, and more importantly, visible enemies.

The Witch Hunters are the lads who hunt down the enemy within, the hidden cults, the mutants hiding in cellars. That is their role. Look at them as the police, and the Warrior Priests as the army.

[zenarion]

Ilya, stop reading my mind ;)
I agree totally with this. There are enough "magical" classes for the Empire.
The Wich Hunters fit more in some dark alley, chasing down witches and cultists, than on open battlefield side to side with Warrior Priests, and fighting demons. Imagine Jack Bauer (watch 24) fighting three tanks and a helicopter. That would not work, despite Bauer's awesomeness.

[quacktar]

Don't think of the warrior priest as the army. Warrior priests are militarily unaffiliated. A warrior priest will join an army one day that happens to be crossing his path, and leave it the next. His presence bolsters morale, but is impermanent. The warrior priest carriers the light of sigmar from village to village, often staying to assist the militia in defending themselves against beastmen or the like. A warrior priest will They are wandering, priestly warriors.(Perfect for a mmorpg!)

Witch Hunters are different because they stay within the bounds of the Empire and operate in it's cities and towns. They find and kill cultists and witches(Untrained magic users) wherever they can find them. Witch Hunters have also been known to lead teams into the wilderness to find and kill such cults. This sometimes seems to lead them into conflict with beastmen and other chaos nasties. Witch hunter+bright wizrd in an army seems very strange. They hate all wizards.

[Flegler]

Witch hunter+bright wizrd in an army seems very strange. They hate all wizards.
Since when? It's not like they're going to turn around and start burning licensed, college trained wizards at the stake. In fact I think witch hunting is a common occupation for Grey wizards.

If we see playable Witch Hunters I'd like them to emphasise the diverse nature of the profession rather than making them more religious zealots. You don't need to be a devout Sigmarite to hunt Chaos. The basic concept here is a swashbuckling detective.

[Vikingkingq]

Ilya, stop reading my mind ;)
I agree totally with this. There are enough "magical" classes for the Empire.
The Wich Hunters fit more in some dark alley, chasing down witches and cultists, than on open battlefield side to side with Warrior Priests, and fighting demons. Imagine Jack Bauer (watch 24) fighting three tanks and a helicopter. That would not work, despite Bauer's awesomeness.

I see the Witch Hunters acting as scouts, infilitrators, and skirmishers. That fits in well with their lighter armor and weaponry, their more individualistic style, and their penchant for tracking down hidden things. Keep in mind that battlefields are rarely 100% open.

[Gabriel]

I think Witch Hunters fit very well what you would play in a mmorpg like WAR.They are made to hunt on their own or to join small groups,and it's ideal for PvE.
About PvP role: yes,they're not made to fight on the 1st line or in a open field battle,but as a ranged class they are ideal,hiding on the back lines and using pistols ecc...or using hit/run tactics on the enemy flank using daggers as assassins.Perfect as scouts and to detect hidden enemies.I see them as a good reanged/dps class (something like a assassin with pistols and other fire weapons).

[Garthilk]

hehehe, :rolleyes: .

[Avathos]

Which Hunters?

LOL

Are they the Empire answer to DPS?

If that the case where do I sign

[Grendal]

From the interview of Gamepsot it appears so, there all about attacking and damage and disdaining defense. Plus according to the video interview as you fight you build up "confession" to a point were you opponent has to confess and you get to do absurd damage.

[kushinagi]

Would like to say: I TOLD YOU SO!

[KroqGar]

When I first heard the news I fell out of my chair with excitement. I've been waiting to play my witch hunter from my Mordheim warband forever. Thank you Mythic.

[Vikingkingq]

BOOYAH!

Altho I will be sad there are no Greatswords.

[Vikingkingq]

From the interview of Gamepsot it appears so, there all about attacking and damage and disdaining defense. Plus according to the video interview as you fight you build up "confession" to a point were you opponent has to confess and you get to do absurd damage.

PERFECT for me. It's like a rogue with no stealth. Confess, heathens!

[KroqGar]

And get shot in the face.

[Vikingkingq]

And get shot in the face.

Hey, Sigmar understands you have to blow people's heads open to get a peek at the truth inside their brains. It's messy, but how else are you going to do it? A system of legal advocates debating the persuasiveness of evidence and testimony? - that's heretic talk!

[KroqGar]

You know I'm going witch hunter too right. You weren't in our Skype chat when Kai announced it. I nearly had a heart attack. There was much rejoicing.

[kushinagi]

Those without a guilty conscience have nothing to hide!

"I need no proof. The merest doubt will suffice."

[KroqGar]

"There is no such thing as innocence, just lesser degrees of guilt."

[BobtheDumbDwarf]

I really hope they ad more badarss detail to Witch Hunter then what the pic shows. I really hope that is a low lvl WH they have in that pic, anybody have any pictures or models from tabletop as to what a high lvl WH might look like? Even the avatar pics people have seem kinda bland compared with the other classes.

[Illya]

Check out the Inquisitors from the Witch Hunters range in 40k. The one in the boxed set is pretty awesome. Then there's Gideon Lórr, a limited edition mini (which I have). Also, awesome.

[Vikingkingq]

I really hope they ad more badarss detail to Witch Hunter then what the pic shows. I really hope that is a low lvl WH they have in that pic, anybody have any pictures or models from tabletop as to what a high lvl WH might look like? Even the avatar pics people have seem kinda bland compared with the other classes.

I don't get it.

The dude has:
-A hat with medal of Sigmar's Comet and a hidden throwing weapon
-A pistol dagger, with skull and scripture pommel, comet inlay, and cross wheellock
-2 throwing knives, 1 dagger, 3 stakes, holy water, various bottles, handcuffs
- a rapier, admittedly a bit plain
- boots with skull and cross kneepads
- a coat with a truly ridiculous number of buckles and metal reinforcing
- gloves with same buckles, with the inscription REPENT on one
(I imagine CONFESS on the other)
- a face that looks like it went ten rounds with a vampire/werewolf and won

[KroqGar]

The one in the boxed set is pretty awesome.

He's my witch hunter in my mordheim band. Looks pretty neato.

[BobtheDumbDwarf]

Vikingking, I see what you mean. WH are very intimidating and look fine. They are the pwn sauce on heretical chaos scum, dark elf pukes, and green abominations. They shal all be purged and face retribution. The High elves and dwarfs will eventually come to know their place as well. All nonbelievers shall be cleansed.

Ok, the WH just left the room. *puts on an ice pack where he was pistol whipped across the face* Anyway, Viking I did take a second glance and scoped out some of the more subtle details. It still kinda feels they could use a little more, but overall I do think they are a very good edition to WAR and they do look cool.

Anybody else reminded of the SOB bad guy racist "Christian" henchman in the second Zorro movie? He looked just like that and had no problems of clearing away all he thought heretical and of lower race.

[Vikingkingq]

Vikingking, I see what you mean. WH are very intimidating and look fine. They are the pwn sauce on heretical chaos scum, dark elf pukes, and green abominations. They shal all be purged and face retribution. The High elves and dwarfs will eventually come to know their place as well. All nonbelievers shall be cleansed.

Ok, the WH just left the room. *puts on an ice pack where he was pistol whipped across the face* Anyway, Viking I did take a second glance and scoped out some of the more subtle details. It still kinda feels they could use a little more, but overall I do think they are a very good edition to WAR and they do look cool.

Anybody else reminded of the SOB bad guy racist "Christian" henchman in the second Zorro movie? He looked just like that and had no problems of clearing away all he thought heretical and of lower race.

Yah. They rock.

I thought I'd find some pics to give a better idea of where the Witch Hunter look could go (trying to stick to non-40K, but it's hard):
http://kolastikk.tripod.com/01_witch_hunter.jpg
http://www.blackindustries.com/images/preview-images/witch-hunter-sm.jpg
http://ca.games-workshop.com/news/cn/Announcements/Editorial/May25/Painting/WitchHunter-DeanBradley_s.jpg
http://www.studio2publishing.com/shop/images/2861_G.jpg

[spirit]

Huzzah! There will be no eating of socks for me!

[Smachaz]

Yah. They rock.

I thought I'd find some pics to give a better idea of where the Witch Hunter look could go (trying to stick to non-40K, but it's hard):
http://kolastikk.tripod.com/01_witch_hunter.jpg
http://www.blackindustries.com/images/preview-images/witch-hunter-sm.jpg
http://ca.games-workshop.com/news/cn/Announcements/Editorial/May25/Painting/WitchHunter-DeanBradley_s.jpg
http://www.studio2publishing.com/shop/images/2861_G.jpg

http://www.warhammeronline.com/newsletter/images/2006/whunter_02.jpg

Come on, how much more badass could you get?

[Crusader V]

Witch Hunter players definitely need to check out the Solomon Kane stories by Robert E. Howard. It's a given that Kane heavily influenced this class.

[Vikingkingq]

Witch Hunter players definitely need to check out the Solomon Kane stories by Robert E. Howard. It's a given that Kane heavily influenced this class.

/glee!

I have been thinking about Solomon Kane for weeks now, ever since we first started speculating about Witch Hunters. Ironically, I got into Solomon Kane when I heard about Age of Conan, bought the new collection of the original Conan stories (none of the modern pastiche crap for me), and then looked for what else REH wrote. Bran Mak Morn looked like a copy of Conan, but I looked at the cover of the Solomon Kane book and thought...hat, sword, pistols, creepy looking staff, I'm sold.

Solomon Kane, for those of you not in the know, is the Puritan Swashbuckler. Originally a privateer who fought with Drake against the Spanish Armada, Kane became a wandering vigilante dedicated to bringing vengeance against evil-doers wherever he went. Kane fights his way across the Carribbean, Europe, and Africa, often doing battle against witches, witch doctors, zombies, pirates, monsters, and tyrants of all sorts. He is known for having an uncompromising sense of justice - Kane believes that he is God's chosen instrument to mete out punishments to the guilty, that his footsteps are guided by a Higher Power that acts to protect the weak and punish the guilty, he is completely fearless even in the face of overwhelming odds, and he just does not stop. In one story, Solomon chases one pirate from Europe to the Americas to the darkest jungles of Africa to punish him for the /murder of a young village girl.

The grim avenger is marked by his somber Puritan garb, his long greatcoat, a slouch hat, a brace of pistols, a deadly rapier, and the Staff of Solomon (a relic of the King of Israel, which has the power to banish all sorts of demons and things not of this world, given to Solomon by Nlonga, an African Witch Doctor who Solomon befriended). His one piece of color is a green sash given to him by Sir Richard Grenville during his seafaring days, and it gives the Puritan an oddly-piratical appearance.

He is, quite simply, the coolest hero ever.

[checkthis5000]

I don't get it.

The dude has:
-A hat with medal of Sigmar's Comet and a hidden throwing weapon
-A pistol dagger, with skull and scripture pommel, comet inlay, and cross wheellock
-2 throwing knives, 1 dagger, 3 stakes, holy water, various bottles, handcuffs
- a rapier, admittedly a bit plain
- boots with skull and cross kneepads
- a coat with a truly ridiculous number of buckles and metal reinforcing
- gloves with same buckles, with the inscription REPENT on one
(I imagine CONFESS on the other)
- a face that looks like it went ten rounds with a vampire/werewolf and won

Those aren't handcuffs, they're horse shoes. :p

Had to through that in there. He probably heats them up and places them on the enemy's forehead, either that or he shoes horses for some extra cash on the side when witches are evading him.

[KroqGar]

Or he uses them for luck. I find that the more logical choice.

[Vikingkingq]

Looks like handcuffs to me.

[Illya]

He's my witch hunter in my mordheim band. Looks pretty neato.

Check out the Witch Hunters section on Forgeworld. The Inquisitor there is sheer awesomeness, and makes for an excellent Warrior Priest or Witch Hunter captain, despite the fact he has a hood instead of a hat. I got it in the mail recently, when I'm done with him, I might post some pics.

Oh, and it's a horseshoe.

[Thorval]

YESSSSS!!!!!!!! Finally, my most fav characters in warhammer are now a class! Screw dwarves, i'm all witch hunter now!

[Nerfing]

Certainly hope the Witch Hunter population don't end-up to become the,"NE Hunters," of Warhammer. Even though I was excited to see them in this game. Guess we'll see what Elven classes are being added.

[Veilside]

If they're anything like Mordheim witch hunters then they should be pretty cool, witchhunters were also great fun to play in the warhammer MUD Wolfenburg.

[Stuntie]

Witchhunters will be very rogue like hopeully, but with a lot more character than the stand behind and backstab standard rogue (yawn).
Hopefully much more dodge and weave than skulk and stealth.
A bit gadgetty as well (for that Van Helsing appeal) able to control the fight rather than pound away. Capable of face to face fighting due to agility based fighting style rather than hart to penetrate armour.

This class has a lot of potential for a very stylish fight rather than the static tank in front rogue behind methodology.

[desertfox]

thats definitely a horse shoe.

what is it for you ask?

you heat them up and press it on the chest of your opponent, and watch the guy scream.

witch hunter is so badass

[Stuntie]

Not forgetting as well that horseshoes would make very good knuckledusters.

[Veilside]

Not forgetting as well that horseshoes would make very good knuckledusters.

No they wouldn't.

[Flegler]

Horseshoes keep goblins from your door, everyone knows that.

This guy seems to have forgotten his door though.

[KroqGar]

No, he has an Acme portable fold up door in his backpack.

[Stuntie]

No they wouldn't.

you obviously don't fight as dirty as me as i can assure you they do....:rolleyes:

[Veilside]

you obviously don't fight as dirty as me as i can assure you they do....:rolleyes:

What do horseshoes have to do with fighting dirty?
That's a point, there should be a "dirty fighting" move where you kick your opponent in the balls and it stuns em for a short while. :rolleyes: