Orc Shamans

[Madcap422]

i was just wondering if the orc shaman is still a playable class in the game. most of the early screenshots include them but now they have almost ceased to be. have they been canceled or are they just not in any of the new screenshots?

if a Dev can shed some light on this that would be great:p

[Kaikai]

big discusson over this in the greenskin forum.
it seems like there is no plans for it, which is dissapointing for some of us.
anywho, check the greenskin discussion forum for the topic, its something about GOBLINshaman or other.
its a good read

[Rejected]

Depressing, there should be a choice if you want an orc shaman or a goblin one.

[Kaikai]

Depressing, there should be a choice if you want an orc shaman or a goblin one.

i could not agree with you more my friend :)

[Sluf]

Well; The title of the class does say Goblin Shaman, so I wouldn't count on it.

[Rock]

I think the main reason is that there are Black Orcs as the main tank and goblins can't be a black orc... so the goblins will need a class all to themselves as well...

[Rejected]

Goblins needs to sit down and shut up, unless they wish to be eaten by their larger greenskin cousins. :p

Orc shamans ftw!

[Nathar]

Most likely balance issues!

They want to make orcs these big bad muscle dudes. A goblin shaman has spell power, in order to make an big bad muscle dude shaman would mean either weak orc or weak magic. That would require a completely new class, and orcs would lose Choppe or Black orc.. and you might gladly want to change but shame on you then!

[Irakaz]

It probably has something to do with the changes that happen to each race. The stuff along the lines of longer dwarf beards, chaos mutations, Orcs getting bigger. Perhaps the natural progression in ppower of a shaman or squig herder has been scripted especially for goblins and it would look silly on an Orc. In teh same way that if a goblin warrior grew he would have to win quite a few fights just to be the starting Orc size :p

[Accipiter]

Goblins needs to sit down and shut up, unless they wish to be eaten by their larger greenskin cousins. :p

Orc shamans ftw!

Shaddap, stoopid pointy-eared idget.

[Rejected]

A goblin calling someone else stupid, that is precious :D

[Accipiter]

A goblin calling someone else stupid, that is precious :D

I'm vewy vewy cute. *puppy eyes*

[Kaikai]

I think the main reason is that there are Black Orcs as the main tank and goblins can't be a black orc... so the goblins will need a class all to themselves as well...

they have two. goblin shaman and goblin squig hearder.

personaly i think there should be goblin choppas and orc shamans as well.
just rename the class to 'shaman' instead of goblin shaman

[Kraus]

They wont be changing that, its goblins being herders and shamans, orcs being black orcs and choppas.

Moving to orc forum.

[Kazgut]

I want, NO scratch that demand orc shaman! Who will cuddle the greenskins at night otherwise! No smelly goblin will be up for the task, thus we must have orc shamans!

Give us the shamans, I will sell you one of the OPs from the Warhammer Chat if you answer my plea!

[BadTouch]

goblins ftw! no way you could get me to play a big chubby orc shaman. think of it this way, goblins being short and small we wont be targeted as often, especially as a healer acheatype, rather than a big disoriented orc. plus you know that seeing a goblin jumping up and down behind a black orc while doing damage to a target is funny.

[Boulvae]

An Orc Shaman, is NOT as potent in their magics as Goblin shamans. An Orc shaman is still considerably tough, FAR tougher then a Goblin shaman, if he'd be able to stomp the weedy lil grot no problem, having Waagh!!! magic backing him up the Goblin's got nothing on him unless he shoots first.

Also an Orc wether they are a shaman or not is still a good melee fighter, so they'd be able to beat people to a pulp, can cast Waaagh!!! magic albeit not as good as a goblin but still, AND isn't a waekling becuase he'd be able to also take a considerable beating.

So for balance issues, and to give the gobbos a use far better then being meat sheilds and Orc chow they should keep the shaman.

[Gemini]

Hahah, that shoulda been the destruction melee healer, an Orc Shaman XD

[ChosenOne]

They wont be changing that, its goblins being herders and shamans, orcs being black orcs and choppas.

Moving to orc forum.

Were you thinking you were on a different forum Mr Savant? ;)

[ManiaCCC]

But it's not so long when Orc shaman was a playable class..

orc shaman 1 (http://www.cesspit.net/drupal/storeroom/daoc-repository/pcgamer-war.jpg)
orc shaman 2 (http://www.freakygaming.com/gallery/game_art/warhammer_online:_age_of_reckoning/orc_shaman.jpg)

[Gemini]

But it's not so long when Orc shaman was a playable class..

orc shaman 1 (http://www.cesspit.net/drupal/storeroom/daoc-repository/pcgamer-war.jpg)
orc shaman 2 (http://www.freakygaming.com/gallery/game_art/warhammer_online:_age_of_reckoning/orc_shaman.jpg)

Yep, way back when Choppa's were called Ironclaws, Battlers, and whatever other names they were known by. And apperantly there was a Dwarf Thunderer, which I assume became the Hammerer. I sitll think Ironclaw was a better class name than Choppas, personally.

[Faezroth]

The whole thing about no orc shamans has really taken away alot of my enthusiasm for warhammer. The only classes i can see myself playing any more are black orc, maybe choppa, maybe black guard or chosen/marauder but not really too enthusiastic about the last three. Id like to play a support class that i like a lot, and it would fit with the classes my friends will play, but there is no way i am ever going to enjoy playing a goblin so i guess that's not going to happen.

[Kevinskewl]

Depressing, there should be a choice if you want an orc shaman or a goblin one.

Well I want to be a goblin choppa but I don't think that's going to happen either...

[Faezroth]

Well I want to be a goblin choppa but I don't think that's going to happen either...
I can't even be bothered to explain to you why you fail. There was never any indication that there is going to be a goblin choppa in the first place, let alone that it doesn't really make much sense.

[Adamwest]

Yeah I think if there were orc shamans i would have been one i've seen a few screenies of them before and they look really cool kinda of remind me of those feral space orks.

Also i would have been coo to see a goblin DPS class ala:http://store.us.games-workshop.com/storefront/newimage.asp?Size=A&Img=258657

http://store.us.games-workshop.com/storefront/newimage.asp?Size=A&Img=258701
And give them a special Shroom ability but maybe that would be too much like the witchelf elixir thing??


Anyways just thought it would be cool if there were or maybe they will be in an expansion pack, who knows?

[rokema]

I think the main reason is that there are Black Orcs as the main tank and goblins can't be a black orc... so the goblins will need a class all to themselves as well...

that class is: Squig herder, there aren't any orc squigherders:P

[Gemini]

that class is: Squig herder, there aren't any orc squigherders:P

And the Shaman.

[Tzepic]

The Orc Shaman pictures made me smile... but i prefer to be leeedul so I'm happy they made the Shaman class Gobbo. WAAAGH!!!

[Mad Squig]

Lol

Ork Shammy would be a good expansion class but I would rather see a Goblin Fanatic.

[Dastion]

While I wouldn't mind seeing some crossover in the race/career combos for greenskins (shaman and choppa for both races? :p ) I don't see it happening. Nor do I see a big orc screaming "Eeeek!" and making everyone around him go flying like the Goblin Shaman does.

[MrDreadful]

Lol

Ork Shammy would be a good expansion class but I would rather see a Goblin Fanatic.

Agreed! I love fanatics.

[Mad Squig]

Agreed! I love fanatics.

Nothing is funnier than seeing a Fanatic wiping out 4 others then dieing of a massive heart attack as he goes on to the next victim.

[Krouv]

I suppose that Orc shamans were taken out due to Mythic's desire to have distinctive "silouhettes". So, Orc = run away, Grot = stomp!

[Boulvae]

No an Orc shaman is WAY more tougher then a Goblin Shaman, and thus you couldn't have the Shaman class have both sub-races with the same stats. An Orc wether it's a Shaman or not can still rend you limb from limb if he felt like it AND he's got Waaagh!!! magic on his side too, not to mention Goblins are much more potent with Waaagh!!! magic then Orcs.

[MrDreadful]

The only reason I really hoped they'd make the shaman an Orc was in hopes that the melee DPS class would be the Night Goblin Fanatic, but that was way back before I knew how things were set. Choppas do look badass and Gobbos do make the best shaman.

[YajoojMajooj]

in the new army book the orc shaman and the gobo shaman use different waagh magic the orc uses BIG WAAAGH while gobline use LIL WAAAGH . one is from gork the other from mork...... big waagh is more dirrect damage and lil waagh is more supportive the greenskins needed a support class not range dps hence they get gobo s with lil waagh....
....... the only problem i have with gobos in WAR is that the gobos are ordinary goblins i wanted them to be NIGHT GOBLINS they are so cool and checking the armours i haven't seen any shaman armour that looks like night goblin shaman armour plus squig herders and squig jumpers are in the night goblins tribe so why is it that the squig herder in this game look like an ordinary goblin ??? that is sad ......
i think orc are done justice but not goblins..... thats just my point of view

[Mad Squig]

What if 'Night Goblin" is apart of your career mastery? That would be an interesting twist to things wouldn't it.

[Gemini]

What if 'Night Goblin" is apart of your career mastery? That would be an interesting twist to things wouldn't it.

That wouldn't really make any sense...

[YajoojMajooj]

Gemini is right that wont make sense at all

[Karas]

They won't add night goblins ...ever ... fanatics would be a likely choice though.

witch - elf style mass dps burst with a sorceress backdraw. every now and again have a chance to blow your heart up and die :)
Give em higher agility and higher dmg and a higher chance to die :) that would rock!

why orc shamans anyhow ... give me TROLLS!! and make them FEMALE !!
*let the flaming commence on the last remark!!*

[Gyllegok]

The same reason why theres no orc females, they dont exist in warhammer.

The shaman is a "supporter" on the battlefield, he doesnt go hit with his stick, but he makes the Orc hit with the force of a hundred sticks.

You all deserve to be punished for you foolishness.

[Faezroth]

The same reason why theres no orc females, they dont exist in warhammer.

The shaman is a "supporter" on the battlefield, he doesnt go hit with his stick, but he makes the Orc hit with the force of a hundred sticks.

You all deserve to be punished for you foolishness.


You don't really have a clue, do you ?

[Okri]

The same reason why theres no orc females, they dont exist in warhammer.

The shaman is a "supporter" on the battlefield, he doesnt go hit with his stick, but he makes the Orc hit with the force of a hundred sticks.

You all deserve to be punished for you foolishness.

http://uk.games-workshop.com/orcsandgoblins/miniature-gallery/4/

Wrong.

[rokema]

I don't see a reason why not to make orc shammy's with slightly different powers and goblins could be the goblin with 2 tabbas or 1 shield & stabba like you see in mark of chaos!

[Kemps]

Orcs are supposed to be considered unsmart,how would they have the knowledge of a caster?

[rokema]

Orcs are supposed to be considered unsmart,how would they have the knowledge of a caster?

If I have it right? : shamans cast at instinct and not at knowledge, or something like that...

[freeid]

big waagh is more dirrect damage and lil waagh is more supportive

Actualy It seems to be the other way around, the lil waah has MORE dd spells than the big waah but the big waah has the BIGEST dps spells

Being that the lil waah has 4 dd spells and 2 support spells, whereas the big waah has 3 support one self buff and only 2 dd spells..

[RadioNinja]

Some of the Goblin Shaman art looks a lot like the night goblin shaman figures.

Remember, you are playing as Orcs and Goblins who are part of the elite Bloody Sunz Boyz. It could be they've absorbed a Night Goblin tribe and the Night Goblins and their mannerisms and talents have leaked into the Goblin population (of the Bloody Sunz) as a whole.