You wanted runepriests and you got 'em. [Archive]

Chilltouch

11-25-2006, 04:52 AM

Listen. I've seen a lot of complaining about "Wah! Runepriests wear cloth!" "They look like wizards!" "Lame!" and so on, and people wishing to transfer their annoyance to other caster classes such as the Sorceror of Tzeentch, 'cause they have armour.

Well, the Sorceror of Tzeentch has just as much armour as the runepriest, it's just made far more obvious because it's over-sized. I've got a few images that point out what obviously says "Hey, that's a lot of plate here and there". There are probably images with less plate on them. Why, do you ask? Lower tier! You can expect for the lowest tier runepriest to be covered in impressive, ornate armoured robes, can you? I also expect Chaos Sorcerors to be wearing robes at the early levels. It wouldn't be balanced without that.

Anyway, images.

http://www.freewebs.com/sterlingdragon/Runepriest%20ARMOUR.JPG
http://www.freewebs.com/sterlingdragon/Runepriest%20ARMOUR2.JPG

dutch_gamer

11-25-2006, 07:36 AM

arthurfoxshot

11-25-2006, 07:57 AM

Its not just any old crappy cloth armour,it has runes in it.

Kraus

11-25-2006, 11:24 AM

As a further note on dutchs medium armor; medium armor is the same as what hammerers are listed on. Further you go on as a Runepriest the more armory you get as pictures show.

Kazgut

11-25-2006, 11:52 AM

Its dwarf in a dress, hahahahaha...*coughs*..hahaha!!

Jacina

11-27-2006, 03:42 AM

"Oro: Its a robe you "

(quote from NWN2 where someone says "thats oro in the dress")

Snorri

11-27-2006, 02:58 PM

"Oro: Its a robe you "

(quote from NWN2 where someone says "thats oro in the dress")

Hah NWN2 has some brilliant quotes :D

"That does it... we bury the gnome here... alive."
Ahh Khelgar Ironfist, god bless you.

Instant_Karma

12-05-2006, 04:50 PM

Seriously, I don't get those complaints. Only reason I'm posting here is because everyone practically silences the complaints on the original flaming post.

versuvius

12-09-2006, 04:34 AM

incidentally does medium armour mean chain mail and studded leather?? or is that still the heavy armour type

Accipiter

12-14-2006, 02:29 PM

But....I like little fat guys who wear pajamas. *sniff*

MachiavelliDisciple

12-14-2006, 02:58 PM

Hah NWN2 has some brilliant quotes :D

"That does it... we bury the gnome here... alive."
Ahh Khelgar Ironfist, god bless you.

*chuckle* Aye, design faults aside NWN 2 had some really good random comedy moments. Khelgar was my favourite character by a long way. Everyone else was whiney, righteous, pure evil, insane, arrogant or smitten with you.

vehemoth

12-21-2006, 02:12 PM

I'm glad to see the calm nature of this thread. I look forward to playing a runepriest.

Dregath

12-30-2006, 12:01 AM

I also am looking forward to playing as a runepreist. BTW Gnomes in WOW look more funny......

Willstar

12-30-2006, 03:31 PM

incidentally does medium armour mean chain mail and studded leather?? or is that still the heavy armour type

Nah, as far as I know, in MMO's heavy armour usually classifies as full plate or something that doesn't jingle when you walk but instead, clanks. If you get my drift.

Durolein

12-31-2006, 06:07 AM

I also am looking forward to playing as a runepreist. BTW Gnomes in WOW look more funny......

Yeah, well that's because their heads are bigger than their chest and legs. I'm not really sure of which career to choose but the runepriest looks quite attractive though I have some gameplay questions that I'm gonna have to answer myself when beta is released.

versuvius

01-02-2007, 09:55 AM

shouldnt runepreists have deep booming voices that command the winds of magic into their rune form....oh yeh how do you put your own avatar on your picture...i cant seem to be able to do it

mongoose

01-06-2007, 11:37 PM

Chilltouch, there is even more proof that some of the whiners are wrong. If they would just take some time to read the info about the Runepriest, they would notice that it states they will be wearing MEDIUM armor. And since when is medium armor the same as cloth armor? So we have proof in images and in words that they don't just wear cloth as some of the whiners think.

Ive been away from the forum for a couple while and find it sad people would actually complain about such a trivial issue without first thinking that Mythic, in its infinite wisdom, wont have some way to balance out defense!

Even if they only wore cloth I would much rather have rune imbedded cloth that some ordinary plate! If DAoC is any indication cloth casters can be pretty tough with Shields, PBT and other means of bolstering their otherwise lacking physical defenses through magical means.

As to what medium armor is.....graphically think 'mail' as in Ring, Scale, Banded and Chain. Anything leather tends to fall into the category of 'Light' which is still a step above cloth.

versuvius

01-07-2007, 05:55 AM

isnt medium armour half plate and chain mail

Okri

01-08-2007, 12:57 PM

I was under the impression medium armor covered the tougher kinds of leather and some light mail. Anyhoo, 'tis but a name. I think there might not even be such armor-classes, but rather just a career requirement on items.

versuvius

01-15-2007, 10:34 AM

i dunno id probably see some light plate mail with spikes but mssing leg guards and a helmet as light armour

Krulltak

01-15-2007, 10:49 AM

You people complain to much without even investigating first. I don't think I need to repeat what has been said already....they wear medium armor, like chainmail.

P.S. Where do I sign up for the 'Versuvius is a Deranged Idiot Clan?'

versuvius

01-15-2007, 11:01 AM

err well u ask me and i wont complain about it when you change your clan thigy to it...and im making a clan on WAR called that lol...or bobs barmy army

Ashnari Doomsong

01-15-2007, 11:30 AM

Odd, that a Dawi runesmith would want to walk around in anything not made up of at least a few plates for the runes. I fancy them wearing half-plate, but that's me. I might be wrong.

versuvius

01-15-2007, 11:39 AM

actually iv though about using magic to create threads of metal like titanium or summat and 'rune weaving' them into an awsome magical piece of armour/ robes...no movement loss and easily withstand a sword thrust or arrow

Ashnari Doomsong

01-15-2007, 12:57 PM

That wouldn't work, except that Dwarfs don't use magic anyway, so the entire idea is quite ridicolous.

Dawi runes are their only form for magic, and it's one nobody else has quite mastered - Dawi are, quite literally, blind and deaf to the Winds of Magic, having to tie them down in runes to work with'em.

versuvius

01-15-2007, 01:01 PM

which makes them all the more powerful...an infinite amount of power can b stored in the right combo of runes and when the user dies the magic stays put...normal magic would dissapate

Doulos

01-26-2007, 03:23 PM

all dwarves should be allowed heavy armour, except the ginger loons, I mean noble slayers, cause otherwise they are divorcing themselves from the original concept of WFB dwarves, which is short grudge bearing chappies with short legs in heavy armour.

Leary

02-11-2007, 05:05 PM

I wouldn't care if they made me go butt-naked with my Dwarf bits swingin'!

I will still be a Dwarf Rune Priest!

Snorri

02-12-2007, 02:26 PM

I wouldn't care if they made me go butt-naked with my Dwarf bits swingin'!

I will still be a Dwarf Rune Priest!

Spoken like a true dwarf. ;)

I agree and would prefer all dwarfs to be wearing heavy armour; but I understand the changes that have been made are for game play balance. And I do not have a huge problem with it. :)

Dwarfs is dwarfs is dwarfs!!!

versuvius

02-12-2007, 03:02 PM

wouldnt you get a little cold around the nether reigion wouldnt you

Dante

02-12-2007, 03:19 PM

Didn't think it was worth opening a new thread so I'll just post them here. I have watched many gameplay videos and I have found out some runes that will be able to use:

Grudge Rune: Often an enemy's misdeeds ar so great that a Dwarf will have this rune put upon his weapon and will not rest until his foe pays for his wrongs with blood

Rune of Fury: The Dwarf wielding the weapon must concentrate upon an unavenged grudge, causing him to become enraged at the wrongs his race have endured.

versuvius

02-12-2007, 03:39 PM

isnt that what a dwarf does ne way in the boozer....drinks, thinks, gets mad...repeat until drunk

Snorri

02-13-2007, 05:13 AM

Rik Riorik

02-13-2007, 05:54 AM

I just saw the "charging of runestaff" animation for the first time today in Pauls Video Blogg. Looked good. I myself can't understand why people don't seem to want to play Runepriests. To me they seem grand. To me it sounds very much like they'll be able to "rune themselves up" to become quite the dangerous foe.

versuvius

02-13-2007, 06:27 AM

buff bots if i ever saw em

Rik Riorik

02-13-2007, 06:52 AM

versuvius

02-13-2007, 09:25 AM

the only runes worth using are those that make things blow up or make the weapon stronger

Snorri

02-13-2007, 12:01 PM

Nay, runes are best used for enhancing our blades and hardening our armour!! I imagine the Runepreist will be able to unleash some devastating attacks as well as defend his dwarfen comrades with powerful runes of protection!

And I agree, Runepriests will not end up as buffbots. But we have already gone over this. :)

Mortissia

02-13-2007, 12:41 PM

With shortlasting buffs that expire in efficiency over time and with what I presume to be short casting range I can hardly see the Runepriest functioning as a "buffbot". In order to work as a buffbot he would have to follow the characters around and would soon end up a "dead bot".

Yes, but the question is, "How tedious is this short lasting buffing going to be"? I remember why I left AC the first time. It took me 8 minutes to buff up and the buffs lasted 15 minutes.

Snorri

02-13-2007, 12:48 PM

I don't think it works like that.
I believe only a few "buffs" (runes) can be active at a time, and the Runepriest has to reinforce them during battle, or unleash them to do damage.

I do not think it is a matter of "buffing up" (i.e. having 15 runes placed on you) and then rebuffing later - that is not how runepriests will work.

And anyway, AC buffs lasted an hour. :p

Rune buffs will be short lived if the Runepriests is not with you to reinforce them during combat. If the Runepriests decides to concentrate on dealing damage, he is no longer feeding power into the runes and they will become inactive.

At least that is how I saw it last time I checked.
Do correct me if I am wrong. :)

versuvius

02-13-2007, 12:51 PM

i still think the exploding runes are good...stoopid stunties

Snorri

02-13-2007, 01:05 PM

If it explodes, its good. :cool:

versuvius

02-13-2007, 01:26 PM

Waaaaagh! And Boom!!!

Mortissia

02-19-2007, 07:23 AM

And anyway, AC buffs lasted an hour. :p

Not when I played (the first year or so). Up until at least level V buffs lasted 15 minutes. And yes I know they eventually changed that. VIIs last two hours now.

Torgan

02-21-2007, 03:45 AM

Yes, but the question is, "How tedious is this short lasting buffing going to be"? I remember why I left AC the first time. It took me 8 minutes to buff up and the buffs lasted 15 minutes.
That's never going to happen if the devs have an ounce of skill. It's not fun. WoW doesn't do it for that reason, and WAR is not going to take a stop back in MMORPG history by reintroducing it.

vehemoth

03-01-2007, 05:28 PM

They are buffbots in many aspects, but thier buffs aren't as drop and release as previous buffbots. They ARE healers and buffbots just in a different sense then in previous MMO's. The bulk of thier abilities is focused on defense and support.

All in all they will perfectly compliment the way Dwarf armies are built up.

Aron_DeTomado

03-10-2007, 09:25 AM

Grudge Rune: Often an enemy's misdeeds ar so great that a Dwarf will have this rune put upon his weapon and will not rest until his foe pays for his wrongs with blood

Rune of Fury: The Dwarf wielding the weapon must concentrate upon an unavenged grudge, causing him to become enraged at the wrongs his race have endured.
Hmm, those are copied verbatum from the Dwarf army book, so I think we can assume they'll be somewhat related to their TT counterparts.
The Rune of Fury adds +1 to attacks, so I think we can expect this to add to attack speed in WAR.
The Grudge Rune allows the wielder of the weapon to reroll misses against an enemy character or monster designated before the battle. In WAR I could see this translating into the Runepriest casting a rune on an enemy and gaining increased accuracy versus that person.

It's nice to see the team making use of already established fluff by GW, makes things feel that much more genuine, IMO.

Black Hammer

03-10-2007, 09:57 AM

Those sound perfect for Ironbreakers and Hammerers. They'll complement them really well. So basically the Runepriest will buff up melee fighters while being tough enough to defend himself (at least for a time) should he be targeted in melee. I like it, add on some Engineer AOE and you've got a tight squad.

Dawi

03-28-2007, 03:07 PM

uhh runepriests are "lightly armored" where others are "effectively unarmored"
we get robes and some leather objects right? where Zealots are only cloth and feathers

Duerghaul

03-28-2007, 07:16 PM

actually Runepriests are in medium armor. not even the Orc Choppas have medium armor.

Dawi

03-29-2007, 11:58 AM

so is that your excuse to be melee dps? like a retribution paladin? haha i hated those

i was a hand-to-hand spell damage paladin lol i could crit you for 1000+ in one swing with a 1h and shield hehe plus 1500 holy shock crits

Black Hammer

03-29-2007, 02:59 PM

i was a hand-to-hand spell damage paladin lol i could crit you for 1000+ in one swing with a 1h and shield hehe plus 1500 holy shock crits

No... no. Do not do this. Just don't. The board doesn't need this. Please make use of capitalization, punctuation, and coherent sentences. I beg you.

Duerghaul

03-29-2007, 03:02 PM

Screen shots or it didn't happen.

someguysteve

03-29-2007, 03:37 PM

It has been stated that there will be no pure support classes. From the warrior priest article it seems that part of accomplishing this is to make attacking a requirement to fet the best attacks and heals. At the same time they seem to make a little more simple to fight and heal. The warrior priest radiates buffs and so allies only need to get close.

The class description has the rune priest healing to some degree through runes as well as using them for buffs. I'm betting the buffs will be long lived so that the priest can mark his allies before battle so that he can concentrate on fighting and healing during battle and not have to worry about buffing during battle.

Aweraw

03-29-2007, 04:21 PM

That's never going to happen if the devs have an ounce of skill. It's not fun. WoW doesn't do it for that reason, and WAR is not going to take a stop back in MMORPG history by reintroducing it.

umm how about blessing a 25 man raid, yes i thought so...

Krulltak

03-29-2007, 04:40 PM

actually Runepriests are in medium armor. not even the Orc Choppas have medium armor.

Orc Choppas can be customized from medium to light armor, effecting "mobility". Read more carfully.

Blitz

03-29-2007, 05:59 PM

"Light to moderate" armor may or may not equate to "well armored in rune inscribed armor".

Nowhere in the description does it say customized from medium to light. I don't suppose we'll really know until more is released.

Dawi

03-29-2007, 07:39 PM

umm how about blessing a 25 man raid, yes i thought so...
ya tell me about it, all our retn00b paladins didn't spec for any improved blessings other than might, so i had to do kings and imp wisdom... on 40 ppl INDIVIDUALLY every 4minutes
until finally they came out with symbols and 15min buffs

Oak

03-30-2007, 05:29 AM

ya tell me about it, all our retn00b paladins didn't spec for any improved blessings other than might, so i had to do kings and imp wisdom... on 40 ppl INDIVIDUALLY every 4minutes
until finally they came out with symbols and 15min buffs

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