[US Herald] - Preview Weekend Plus

[Garthilk]

From the General News category we have: Preview Weekend Plus

WAAAGH!!!

WAR is Coming and the world is ready. Hundreds of thousands of players will descend upon the Age of Reckoning this Sunday, September 7th.

In order to make this world-wide event the best it can be we're welcoming all Preview Weekend attendees back for two more days to rev things up and get the party started. We invite all Preview Weekend players to join us for Preview Weekend+ this Friday, 9/5 and Saturday, 9/6 starting tomorrow morning.

This epic weekend will be one to remember as you herald in Open Beta and the Age of Reckoning to the entire world!

The tides of WAR are coming...we'll see you on the battlefiled!

Source (http://herald.warhammeronline.com/warherald/NewsArticle.war?id=214)

[Siliticx]

Holy MOLY ! And first! that was unexpected!

[Darkened]

And once again, pardon my starting a sentence with and, Mythic comes through in an unexpected and most delightful way.

Much appreciated as always Mythic, same goes for WHA Staff with the update, good stuff folks.

[emptyskull]

hope they didn't wipe the characters :/

[Mavrick]

From an EU point of view that pisses me off :-x

[Phenom]

thank you mythic!!!!

[Jonin]

Heck yea! Can't wait

[Kinz]

HOLY! See you all tomorrow for the PW + ;)

P.S Thanks Mythic for ending my boredom and starting the weekend off great!

[Shark131]

omfg, i love mythic!!!! You have made my fricken day, here i thought i was going to miss out on playtime sunday!!! Thank you!!!

[Darkened]

hope they didn't wipe the characters :/

Don't get your hopes up. I'd be surprised if they hadn't.

[Scardydog]

OMG! We in the EU can't even get a damn account up and running and you guys get another PW? What the hell is going on???

[phluke]

hope they didn't wipe the characters :/

HAH! enjoy starting over.

This will be great, more people to kill now. Just having the elders isn't the same as having a bunch of fresh meat to kill!

[lmok]

From an EU point of view that pisses me off :-x
I hear you :(:(:(

[KiyokaMakibi]

From an EU point of view that pisses me off :-x

*Edited for content.*

[Scardydog]

What they have done here is essensially give the US players an extra 2 days of open beta. If thats not treating us EU people as second rate, I don't know what is!

[lmok]

What they have done here is essensially give the US players an extra 2 days of open beta. If thats not treating us EU people as second rate, I don't know what is!

I know what is!:

1. we don't have account management access yet.
2. a lot of people did not receive their keys yet.
3. we pay more for the game. about 10-15 bux more, and receive less.

I really should have bought the US version. *cries*

[Reaperman]

Woop, we pay more and receive less. I love you mythic.

[GDVS]

"Taking the piss" doesn't even come close to what this is :/

[vand3l]

From an EU point of view that pisses me off :-x

I also hear you :(

We cant even enter the beta keys we got 6 months ago!

[jBucket]

hopefully they got rid of some of the lag/glitches/LAG

[shazzy]

As a European I am speechless.

[KiyokaMakibi]

*Edited for content*

[Sickened1]

Wait you can only get in on this if you were in the first PW? If so thats just dumb. I went out and payed off my $55 preorder and i dont? Totall BS.

[daedrick]

Since my english isnt the best and Im a little scared of the garthilk post about forum rules, I will try to be as civil as possible. ( got 2 warning since the flood of casual on the forum. ) What we all expected from GOA is now reality... failure. Or is it GOA fault? Anyway, that being said, I dont want to be disrespectful, but I feel EU pain and it piss me off. I mean, its really unfair. Arf, I cant change anything about that tough. ( Im a french canadian, so it doesnt reach me, but I really, like, REALLY hate unfairness. ( is that a word?! :eek: ) )

That being said; Do we all get 2 extra days or its only for the collector edition pre-order that get the 2 extra days?! ( pre-ordered normal edition ) :confused:

Thanks.

[Kochise]

Oh wow. Thanks so much Mythic. I have been bored to tears since PW ended. Thank YOU!!!!

[Christhesnorlax]

Great to hear, unfortunate that a couple of my late registering friends can't join...
But I guess that makes the taunts all the sweeter :D

[Raike]

Three simple words to sum this news up...


Epic Win Mythic! :D

[Reaperman]

*Edited for content*

[Shark131]

Wait you can only get in on this if you were in the first PW? If so thats just dumb. I went out and payed off my $55 preorder and i dont? Totall .
It's only two days, you will live. The game comes out in two weeks.

They decided to make it for the PW people, if you didn't register in time to get in thats your problem.

[KiyokaMakibi]

*Edited for content*

[Salvatorus]

Sweet, I cant wait.

Hopefully they fix the OB for EU customers. Sucks them getting the shaft and what not.

[Umpaidh]

Grats to you guys, have fun and whack a stuntie from me :)
From an EU point of view tho I can see this giving GOA bad press when it really is not thier fault :(

[Groggen]

I am actually in shock. Mythic dare to pull out this move once again without GOA being able to follow in EU???? This time around I would think Mythic might get as much flak as GOA from the euro people.

Anyways, grats to all US players who get to play a couple of more days in beta!

/wanders of to war-europe.com for non-existant updates.
/ponders E-baying CE

[Vulpire]

Three simple words to sum this news up...


Epic Win Mythic! :D

QFT!

I've been hoping beyond hope this WHOLE week they would do this.

Thank you for answering my prayers Mythic :D.

And to those Euro's, calm down! This isn't epic fail for Mythic at all, geez.. so many selfish people.

[Sickened1]

*Edited for content*

[Vladdax]

And on the 2nd day before open beta Mythic said:

LET THERE BE FORUM FLAMES! and it was so... :o

[shazzy]

QFT!

I've been hoping beyond hope this WHOLE week they would do this.

Thank you for answering my prayers Mythic :D.

And to those Euro's, calm down! This isn't epic fail for Mythic at all, geez.. so many selfish people.

I think if the boot were on the other foot you probably wouldn't behave as well as us Euros.

Alright Jack? ;)

[NotoriousTHC]

Apparently the team in EU isn't up to snuff with what needs to be handled. The American side was handled directly in sync with the development so no wonder its been up near flawlessly. If it were designed and tested in EU, id sense a similiar issue.

Yeah they are taking forever with the system, but dont you think that the people at Mythic would have done something better for YOU if they could have to fix it? It may not be exactly what you want them to do to wipe your tears but I dont have any doubts that they are doing what they can.

[Scardydog]

QFT!

I've been hoping beyond hope this WHOLE week they would do this.

Thank you for answering my prayers Mythic :D.

And to those Euro's, calm down! This isn't epic fail for Mythic at all, geez.. so many selfish people.

Selfish? I fail to see how EU people can be called selfish. All we are asking for is to be treated the same, we have had neither a PW or, in fact, an account center...how are we being selfish?

[mav1234]

It's still BS. How do you even get into the first pw anyway? Just sign up and pay nothing? Thats just weaksauce.

Some individuals bought CEs I think to get in. Others got lucky. This is indicative of the fact they want OB to be a success, so they're opening things up early for a slightly lowered number of people. Not a bad idea.

[shazzy]

Apparently the team in EU isn't up to snuff with what needs to be handled. The American side was handled directly in sync with the development so no wonder its been up near flawlessly. If it were designed and tested in EU, id sense a similiar issue.

Yeah they are taking forever with the system, but dont you think that the people at Mythic would have done something better for YOU if they could have to fix it? It may not be exactly what you want them to do to wipe your tears but I dont have any doubts that they are doing what they can.

Maybe you're right but there's no need to rub our faces in it now, is there, which is what you and Mythic appear to be doing.

[saw77]

From an EU point of view that pisses me off :-x

word :-(.................

[lmok]

QFT!

I've been hoping beyond hope this WHOLE week they would do this.

Thank you for answering my prayers Mythic :D.

And to those Euro's, calm down! This isn't epic fail for Mythic at all, geez.. so many selfish people.

with all due respect, I am happy that US players get such cool things.
still, it's unfair.
I know this is just beta, but it's not about that. it's about the different lesser treatment we get.

honestly, it's like being in 6th grade or something and the teacher brings cake, but there's not enough for all; just for half a class. how would you feel if you didn't get cake and you had to watch the others eat and enjoy it?
sure, we aren't kids, but it's still relevant.

cheers

[KiyokaMakibi]

*Edited for content*

[Ethe]

does anyone know why GOA isnt having a preview weekend as well? didn't they readied their servers yet? it's 2 days untill open beta starts and if they havent readied them, it big trouble...

[semphis]

Woot, but man I feel for you EU guys, I was hoping you would get the same treatment as well, same is our Eastern Side Friends. I just Pray that Mythic Launches the Game to all of us.

[shazzy]

Probably just not ready Ethe. They've gone a little quiet again which is a bit scarey.

[ThickJohnson]

Thanks Mythic! Unexpected and Great News.

For The EU Players, I am sure it sucks but perhaps they are looking to collect some data prior to the OB launch. Perhaps this is a tactical move to help assure a smooth launch of both OB and Retail. Maybe this idea will make it sting a bit less. We all just want a great game in the end no?

For The US players who are not in the PW+ same kind of story. Perhaps they want to test things and compile data on a controlled population prior to opening the flood gates.

[GDVS]

does anyone know why GOA isnt having a preview weekend as well? didn't they readied their servers yet? it's 2 days untill open beta starts and if they havent readied them, it big trouble...
We don't even have an account centre yet.

[Firebirth]

Its obvious that GOA are having to run things down to the wire in order to get ready. It maybe that they are being thorough in getting the accounts system working well (The EU website is a little inconsistent with the whole loading the page properly thing) or they don't have the resources in order to provide these specials for the EU community.

In fact GOA are probably receiving no money from Mythic at this stage so its unlikely that they will do anything more than aim for their contractual obligations before launch (i.e. getting the game launched).

I can understand the annoyance at this announcement, when Mark Jacobs said we would be treated as equals and this seems like a broken promise if the preview weekends aren't inclusive.

Mythic should have announced this at 1am GMT instead of now

[Scardydog]

Thanks Mythic! Unexpected and Great News.

For The EU Players, I am sure it sucks but perhaps they are looking to collect some data prior to the OB launch. Perhaps this is a tactical move to help assure a smooth launch of both OB and Retail. Maybe this idea will make it sting a bit less. We all just want a great game in the end no?

For The US players who are not in the PW+ same kind of story. Perhaps they want to test things and compile data on a controlled population prior to opening the flood gates.

Then why not open a PW for the EU, since NA has already had one and let us collect the data...fairs fair right?

[Sickened1]

Some individuals bought CEs I think to get in. Others got lucky. This is indicative of the fact they want OB to be a success, so they're opening things up early for a slightly lowered number of people. Not a bad idea.

It's a bad idea in my book. Gotta say I'm pretty pissed about this. Ive been counting the f'ing days for this game to come out. All i do on my pc now is look at the forums, and keep revising how im gonna build my class. I'm obsessed I NEED THIS. lol. But really
I DO!

[ThickJohnson]

Some individuals bought CEs I think to get in. Others got lucky. This is indicative of the fact they want OB to be a success, so they're opening things up early for a slightly lowered number of people. Not a bad idea.

It was not luck, it was paying attention to the press releases and being at your computer at 7:00 AM waiting for the key registration.

[Shark131]

It's still BS. How do you even get into the first pw anyway? Just sign up and pay nothing? Thats just weaksauce.
Either you were guaranteed a spot if you registered your CE key. Or if you were one of the first 50,000 people to register your SE open beta key on August 15th.

[Custard]

What a wonderful kick in the nuts.

This was a little overkill for the EU eh?

[Kotch]

And on the 2nd day before open beta Mythic said:

LET THERE BE FORUM FLAMES! and it was so... :o


QFT

Have a good time NA...

/goes away angrily grumbling stuff about GOA

[W E F T]

HELL YEA
I hope Order is reay this time, and they can put up a better fight then Preview weekend! :D

[Shark131]

What does GOA stand for?

[Mathis]

Ahhahahahaha w0000000000000000000000t

THANK YOU MYTHIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Mirriwah]

Somebody fetch me a bucket! :O

[Ethe]

*Edited for content*

[Tealdragon]

Well I wasn't too fussed over the first preview weekend, a nice to have but hey if the GOA beta servers weren't able to cope no biggie.

But this really bites, we are sat hoping that an account centre will appear and that our codes work. CE owners like myself have paid for open beta and headstart, and now we miss out on even more.

Quite what the reason for this one is I'm not sure, but it is just stirring up a hornets nest again that the reasonably decent client download from GOA HAD mostly put to rest.

GOA folks, I feel sorry fot you having to deal with this all over again, it can't be fun...

Hopefully EU will get into open beta sunday and we will all be too busy playing to be sat around impatiently waiting to join the party...

[Darkened]

Coolies. I got a warning ^_^;

Unless you'd like to turn that warning into a full fledged ban, I'd suggest just taking it like an adult and making an effort to avoid repeating the same mistake in the future.

Posting here to try and get attention, all because you were warned for behavior that is against the rules that you neglected to read, is a sure fire way to earn a permanent vacation.

Don't take the hard road when the easy road is only a ten foot walk in the other direction.

I have outlined the rules you may find pertinent in regard to your situation, I suggest checking the Forum Rules link in my signature (or any of the official WHA moderators signatures) and giving it a thorough read:

Ignorance of the forum rules, or a failure to read them is not an acceptable excuse. Failure to follow forum rules will indicate to the volunteers and managers of this site that your inability to follow basic directions makes you unsuitable to continue participating in this community website.

Doing anything that could be construed as annoying will put you on the fast track to perma-banning.

Publicly arguing over board policy, or publicly commenting on moderation, is an unwise course of action. If you have comments, suggestions or issues with moderation, contact one of our staff members via private message.

[Custard]

I don't understand the fact that surely Mythic know GOA are under pressure to get things like the account centre done, yet they do things like this to purely add to the pressure.

[Sn0wCrash]

Unless you'd like to turn that warning into a full fledged ban, I'd suggest just taking it like an adult and making an effort to avoid repeating the same mistake in the future.

Posting here to try and get attention, all because you were warned for behavior that is against the rules that you neglected to read, is a sure fire way to earn a permanent vacation.

Don't take the hard road when the easy road is only a ten foot walk in the other direction.

I have outlined the rules you may find pertinent in regard to your situation, I suggest checking the Forum Rules link in my signature (or any of the official WHA moderators signatures) and giving it a thorough read:

Doing anything that could be construed as annoying will put you on the fast track to perma-banning.[/quote]

[/quote]Publicly arguing over board policy, or publicly commenting on moderation, is an unwise course of action. If you have comments, suggestions or issues with moderation, contact one of our staff members via private message.[/quote][/quote]

.... Rulesmonger *bans you from tabletop gaming*

[Firebirth]

*Edited for content*

[doberman8u]

Damn you Mythic! I had so much stuff to do this weekend and now it will be pushed back if not alltogether ignored.

[Groggen]

What does GOA stand for?

"Going Over to America" if I'm not mistaken...

ps. No idea who came up with that.. it wasn't me.. :)

[Regis]

I must say, I am surprised. After all the outrage from EU players before I would not think that Mythic would do something that GOA can't match. Guess I was wrong.

What does GOA stand for?

From the experience one would think Gone On Arrival, but it actually doesn't stand for anything. It's just a name.

[Darth]

pfff next mmo i am going to play, ill buy an US account. EU always bites the dust...

[Backslash]

Woo hoo. Mythic gets me my fix early. Thanks, folks. I was starting to get the shakes without WAR. I posted on these forums that I got desperate enough to play Wii games waiting for WAR to come back. This is going to be so great, getting more time to try out a couple of the classes I wasn't able to get to last PW.

Really feeling for the Europeans on this one. Hang in their, guys.

[Firebirth]

Would we really be all that re-assured if EA Europe took over running of the game from GOA ?

[Darkened]

.... Rulesmonger *bans you from tabletop gaming*

The people I play TT with have no issues conducting themselves as adults and following the rules, hence, there is no excuse why posters on an online gaming forum cannot do the same.

Common courtesy and common sense go a long, long way here.

[Marb]

actually this would have been a GREAT opportunity for GOA to get some trust/love back. the servers should be in place already ...

dunno whats delaying the acc center - the login on war-europe has been down since monday i believe ...

well maybe we will get a nice present when we get up tomorrow saying we do get a PW - no no seriously it will happen (though im very sleepy and might be dreaming already)

[ShadowDemon]

Thanks Mythic. What server will the devs be playing on? I think it would be fun to play with them this PW+=)

[Gloovish]

I predict a surge of people calling in sick tomorrow. ;)

[lesamourai]

Awesome, I cannot wait!

[Kochise]

Thanks Mythic. What server will the devs be playing on? I think it would be fun to play with them this PW+=)


Oh very interesting. That would be the best way ever to kick this off...that would f'n rock.

[Addykt]

Yay I have tomorrow off.

[XImpalerX]

Sweet!
10 char

[kristov]

Seems safe to say they are needing to "ramp" up over the weekend and make sure everything is working.

Let a 100k or 200k onto the servers, get warmed up, moved out of the newbie zones and then let the other half in?

This seems to make a lot of sense.

I know it kinda sucks if your not in that "preview" group but it is the most logical way to handle this.

[Alunadriea]

The people I play TT with have no issues conducting themselves as adults and following the rules, hence, there is no excuse why posters on an online gaming forum cannot do the same.

Common courtesy and common sense go a long, long way here.


saddly welcome to the nets Darkened :( were common courtesy and common sense went the way of the DoDo Bird it sometimes seems.

no offense to those that can follow rules and exercise common sense and courtesy.

[Psycho]

I kinda saw this coming. I mean, why start your open beta on a sunday?

No way to ease the pain for my EU brothers and sisters. Maybe if they knew that I live in Germany and get paid in USD and have my arse handed to me everyday over the Euro it might make them feel better?... No?

/shrug

[Invision]

*Edited for content*

[KiyokaMakibi]

Unless you'd like to turn that warning into a full fledged ban, I'd suggest just taking it like an adult and making an effort to avoid repeating the same mistake in the future.

Posting here to try and get attention, all because you were warned for behavior that is against the rules that you neglected to read, is a sure fire way to earn a permanent vacation.

Don't take the hard road when the easy road is only a ten foot walk in the other direction.

I have outlined the rules you may find pertinent in regard to your situation, I suggest checking the Forum Rules link in my signature (or any of the official WHA moderators signatures) and giving it a thorough read:

Please don't get the wrong idea about who I am Darkened. I am an adult my good dwarf sir. It was a mistake to say "coolies" but the ^_^; face was intended for a "oh dam/oh crap" expression. I wasn't seeking attention like a troublemaker. I thought my post served as admit of of a mistake I made. But yeah, the wrong word and emotion turns it around.

I have taken it like an adult. I sent a PM apologising to an admin about my post. It wont lift the warning I know.

[Dominicano]

waaaaagh! nice!

[Sn0wCrash]

The people I play TT with have no issues conducting themselves as adults and following the rules, hence, there is no excuse why posters on an online gaming forum cannot do the same.

Common courtesy and common sense go a long, long way here.


but you also didnt need to come off all high and mighty to the poster, that was all my joke inferred.

[Katemonster]

omfg, i love mythic!!!! You have made my fricken day, here i thought i was going to miss out on playtime sunday!!! Thank you!!!

Mmhmm! *dances*

-Kate

[Kochise]

Ok now this sucks...I can't wait till tomorrow...just open them TONIGHT!!!! I'm bout to get off work....C'MON! :p

[Marb]

remember this was a surprise - somehow i doubt mythic would fool (would use another word here but trying to watch my language) us twice?

GOA had no chance to react yet (i guess mythic told them they were going to do this?) - ill give them till tomorrow morning - then im starting to flame :)

[Thande]

I hope that GOA will come up with the same news tomorrow :p starts the account centre and right after that we can start playing :cool:

(i know i'm just dreaming :sad:)

But why not? the servers should be up and rock n roll now, we just need the account centre to open (if the servers are not up by tomorrow, then we have some serious problems...)

Anyways have fun US !!! ;)

[Bizneo]

You rock Mythic!!!

[KiyokaMakibi]

omg it's Friday (in 2 hours and 15 min) I didn't realise how close we was to Sunday O_O;

[Addykt]

Again, screwed EU players.. GG Mythic.
No matter whose problem this is, GOA's or Mythics if they cant give it to both, dont give it to anyone.
One preview weekend was able to live with for us EU players, but two? NO way!

I'm reminded of myself when I was 10 years old and my cousin got something and my Mom told me I couldn't get it too.

[Kryosis]

I think if the boot were on the other foot you probably wouldn't behave as well as us Euros.

Alright Jack? ;)

thats a huge croc because there have been a few other mmo's where euro got quite a bit more than us in canada/usa so don't even start buddy and suck it up its 2 days dont be emo

[Ranz III]

I wouldn't bet against GOA announcing something tomorrow morning, it's pretty late in Ireland now.

[Twip]

Again, screwed EU players.. GG Mythic.
No matter whose problem this is, GOA's or Mythics if they cant give it to both, dont give it to anyone.
One preview weekend was able to live with for us EU players, but two? NO way!

You seem to have the wrong idea about this. This isn't a reward just to let people play the game early. This is a test. These people are being recruited because the game needs more work. Taking it from both people is a detriment to the goal they're trying to achieve.

I'm not in the Preview Weekend because I only preordered recently, but it seems the EU folks are getting mad for a resonable reason. Yeah you wanna play the game, I see that, but it's just plain easier to keep everything in America (where Mythic is based). They also already have a set group of people in which to put in the Preview Weekend why not make more use of them?

[Darkened]

Please don't get the wrong idea about who I am Darkened. I am an adult my good dwarf sir. It was a mistake to say "coolies" but the ^_^; face was intended for a "oh dam/oh crap" expression. I wasn't seeking attention like a troublemaker. I thought my post served as admit of of a mistake I made. But yeah, the wrong word and emotion turns it around.

I have taken it like an adult. I sent a PM apologising to an admin about my post. It wont lift the warning I know.

Perhaps I owe you an apology then, as your initial response led me to believe you were "less than mature" about how to handle receiving the warning.

Your response is refreshing, after seeing I had a PM from you I assumed this would the typical mouth breathing, eff-you type response that has become all to common these days after someone makes a comment regarding online conduct, but you have certainly shown me the exact opposite and are more than adult about how you seem to conduct yourself.

I admit I may have jumped the gun after reading your response, and as such, my apologies - no hard feelings?

[Hazey]

i <3 u mythic :mrgreen:

[Artax]

Either you were guaranteed a spot if you registered your CE key. Or if you were one of the first 50,000 people to register your SE open beta key on August 15th.


2 days AFTER they announced this is when i registered and i still got in so a lot of ppl either didnt know or didn't think they had a chance so didnt bother? i thought it was strange when i saw it pop-up

[lycn]

*Edited for content*

[Warenthu]

Will this earlier start apply only to those who logged in or to anyone who got a PW invite?

I did receive an invite, but I was unfortunately out of the country during it and never had a chance to log in :(

[Shark131]

2 days AFTER they announced this is when i registered and i still got in so a lot of ppl either didnt know or didn't think they had a chance so didnt bother? i thought it was strange when i saw it pop-up
Serious? Dang, and here i thought i was pushing it registering an hour and 40 minutes after registration started.

[Kocicka]

While I'm ecstatic about getting to play tomorrow, I really don't understand why the Europeans are being left out here. It just doesn't give the appearance that they are as "valued" as the North American customers.

I hope that GOA will be able to announce the same or have a nice surprise for the Europeans in the morning.

[Darkened]

but you also didnt need to come off all high and mighty to the poster, that was all my joke inferred.

I didn't actually, that is simply the way you have interpreted it.

Review the dialogue between me and the other user, and you will see I am anything but high and mighty regarding my attitude on these forums.

It was a simple misunderstanding, and the humor of your comment was not lost on me :P

[Syri]

WAHOOOO!

Oh this is fantastic! Way to go Mythic, this is the bacon on my BLT. <3

[KiyokaMakibi]

Perhaps I owe you an apology then, as your initial response led me to believe you were "less than mature" about how to handle receiving the warning.

Your response is refreshing, after seeing I had a PM from you I assumed this would the typical mouth breathing, eff-you type response that has become all to common these days after someone makes a comment regarding online conduct, but you have certainly shown me the exact opposite and are more than adult about how you seem to conduct yourself.

I admit I may have jumped the gun after reading your response, and as such, my apologies - no hard feelings?

Irl yes, but in game no >=). You are a dwarf, I am Chaos :mrgreen:

[Sn0wCrash]

I didn't actually, that is simply the way you have interpreted it.

Review the dialogue between me and the other user, and you will see I am anything but high and mighty regarding my attitude on these forums.

It was a simple misunderstanding, and the humor of your comment was not lost one me :P


Well, at least you got the joke ;p

[Cliffy]

Just made my "nothing scheduled, boring weekend" interesting

Feel for the EU people but in 2 weeks it will be all forgotten. I went through the opposite with AoC for the month I played that piece of crap since we had to get all our dev answers and info from the Euro boards. All copy and pasted answers on US forums.

[deyogee]

with all due respect, I am happy that US players get such cool things.
still, it's unfair.
I know this is just beta, but it's not about that. it's about the different lesser treatment we get.

honestly, it's like being in 6th grade or something and the teacher brings cake, but there's not enough for all; just for half a class. how would you feel if you didn't get cake and you had to watch the others eat and enjoy it?
sure, we aren't kids, but it's still relevant.

cheers

No, its more like the teacher next door to you brings in cake and his/her class gets cake but yours does not. It happens sometimes. Maybe it was some kid's birthday in that class. Things tend to even out in the long run.

[Laffe]

As an european I have to say... what's the big deal? Americans get a few days extra to give the game a playthrough and we are still getting everything promised to us by GOA (given we dont have any unforeseen problems). I'm still happy, and many thousand of other people are even happier. Peace and love, y'all.

[Mavrick]

don't be mad, EU players. we r just testing the game, so u guys gonna have a bug-free WAR, isn't it great?

/ignored
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[Ethe]

You seem to have the wrong idea about this. This isn't a reward just to let people play the game early. This is a test. These people are being recruited because the game needs more work. Taking it from both people is a detriment to the goal they're trying to achieve.

You are wrong.

It's not beta. It's Preview Weekend.
It is for people to Preview the game before it launches.

[Xxpect]

Yay!! I'm off work on Fridays and have to work on Sundays so this is perfect for me :D

Sorry for our EU brothers and sisters. Not sure where the blame should be placed, but hopefully everything will go smooth for you all in the open beta and it will all be fair and square from then on.

[James_EAMythic]

Hey all,

This is an exciting time for all of us, and I want to be very clear on what the purpose is for Preview Weekend+

We want to be able to provide the best experience for both our EU and NA playerbases, we decided that the way to ensure that as best as possible would be to invite a sample of those joining us for Open Beta and really hammer on everything and check to be sure the game is tip-top and ready to rock.

It's important we're able to get the concise, focused feedback we need in this short period of time and be able to respond with speed and flexibility to any issues that might arise over 48 hours.

I think we can all agree that allowing a few players to get in and help us create the best experience for you come Sunday is the best thing for all of us.

WAR is Coming, and it's only 3 days away!

Thanks all :)

[Darkened]

Irl yes, but in game no >=). You are a dwarf, I am Chaos :mrgreen:

True true, glad we got that squared away :)

Well, at least you got the joke ;p

It did find it entertaining as well, despite my initial overly serious reaction, good stuff.

[LadyFreya]

So it's like a bonus to OB?

That's amazing, thank you Mythic!

[Cleofis]

*Edited for content*

[Tomar]

I am actually in shock. Mythic dare to pull out this move once again without GOA being able to follow in EU???? This time around I would think Mythic might get as much flak as GOA from the euro people.

Anyways, grats to all US players who get to play a couple of more days in beta!

/wanders of to war-europe.com for non-existant updates.
/ponders E-baying CE

Give me a break, are you that worried about 2 days? Some of my friends aren't even planning on playing in open beta so they are better rested to spend time at the real launch. I hope you GOA folk DO get access tomorrow or Saturday but canceling your box over 2 days you didn't think you'd get anyway is silly.

[The Green Pickle]

Yes, oh yes, freakin' yes! This is soo unexpected and very sweet!, Now I won't go crazy for those two extra days (although I still plan on visitin' my parents most of tomorrow anyways, so it's cool).

[Heavens Agent]

I'm guessing characters made during this period will be wiped before open beta begins?

[Shark131]

No, Thank you!!

[Darkened]

Hey all,

This is an exciting time for all of us, and I want to be very clear on what the purpose is for Preview Weekend+

We want to be able to provide the best experience for both our EU and NA playerbases, we decided in order to assure that as best as possible would be to invite a sample of those joining us for Open Beta and really hammer on everything and check to be sure the game is in tip-top and ready to rock.

It's important we're able to get the concise, focused feedback we need in this short period of time and be able to respond with speed and flexibility to any issues that might arise over 48 hours.

I think we can all agree that allowing a few players to get in and help us create the best experience for you come Sunday is the best thing for all of us.

WAR is Coming, and it's only 3 days away!

Thanks all :)

Thanks for the update James, if only it were time to roll my Live Characters!

One more week to decide what to roll at launch, the pressure is on, goosebumps are creeping up my flesh and I may have to saturate myself in cheap liquor to alleviate the stress of the decision.

So be it!

WAAAGH!!!

[Nena]

Yay!!!!! Maybe I will call in sick tmorrow.... ;)

[Psycho]

l,,l Waaaagh! l,,l

[Shark131]

Read his post again.

[Vortex500]

No, its more like the teacher next door to you brings in cake and his/her class gets cake but yours does not. It happens sometimes. Maybe it was some kid's birthday in that class. Things tend to even out in the long run.

Well the other class got 3 cakes in a row now and we dont even got a account center. :D j/k.

All I wish and hope for is that we in EU got a server to play on on Head start, preview and OB I don't care at all about. In 3 years from now if the game goes well, all this will be forgotten, or if it does bad we still talk about these things(like SWG launch).

VoRTeX

[KiyokaMakibi]

*panic* I hope GOA give us the account page tommorow. I heard they work weekdays only ;-; (I know I'm panicking D=)

[frozenmage]

just wana be correct are all the ppl who were in the preview weekend last week gettin in for sure?

[Skrigg]

Once again Mythic is setting the new standard of how to operate a beta/launch. Thanks again guys!!

[Scardydog]

Hey all,

This is an exciting time for all of us, and I want to be very clear on what the purpose is for Preview Weekend+

We want to be able to provide the best experience for both our EU and NA playerbases, we decided that the way to ensure that as best as possible would be to invite a sample of those joining us for Open Beta and really hammer on everything and check to be sure the game is tip-top and ready to rock.



Then why not invite a cross sample of EU and NA players? Why make it only NA, if its a sample of open beta players?

Oh wait, I know why, because we cant even register yet!

[Phosphoros]

Hey all,

This is an exciting time for all of us, and I want to be very clear on what the purpose is for Preview Weekend+

We want to be able to provide the best experience for both our EU and NA playerbases, we decided that the way to ensure that as best as possible would be to invite a sample of those joining us for Open Beta and really hammer on everything and check to be sure the game is tip-top and ready to rock.

It's important we're able to get the concise, focused feedback we need in this short period of time and be able to respond with speed and flexibility to any issues that might arise over 48 hours.

I think we can all agree that allowing a few players to get in and help us create the best experience for you come Sunday is the best thing for all of us.

WAR is Coming, and it's only 3 days away!

Thanks all :)

/puts on his beta testing hat.

/faints

[Syrek]

*Edited for content*

[Syri]

Yeowch, I just now read some of the replies as opposed to the original post... I had no idea something like this would garner such.. anger in folk. Maybe it's naive of me, but ... wow. Why all the hostility?

I know it's something others want to participate in too, but... is it really worth getting exceedingly upset over something you didn't think you'd have had in the first place? Oomph. I hope the folk in EU of course get the same gooey cookie, though. =\

[Watchmen]

you made my day.

[deyogee]

Then why not invite a cross sample of EU and NA players? Why make it only NA, if its a sample of open beta players?

Oh wait, I know why, because we cant even register yet!

PW players are a quick easy group to be able to grab. We already all have the game DLed, know what was wrong in PW, and are more than likely ready to roll within 10 minutes of them turning on the servers tomorrow.
I am not saying it doesnt suck that the EU players dont get in, i am just saying for this kind of short-notice, quick test, it makes sense to reuse a playerbase you already have. I guess the other option would have been a sample of CB players...but that is a whole different discussion

[Cleofis]

Yeowch, I just now read some of the replies as opposed to the original post... I had no idea something like this would garner such.. anger in folk. Maybe it's naive of me, but ... wow. Why all the hostility?

I know it's something others want to participate in too, but... is it really worth getting exceedingly upset over something you didn't think you'd have had in the first place? Oomph. I hope the folk in EU of course get the same gooey cookie, though. =\

I think it's that CE pre-orders in NA have had a bit of CB access and now 2 "PW"s and we still don't have an account centre less than 72 hours before OB starts.

[jim1398]

Oh come on James.

I thought you were a pretty cool guy up until now, but I beg you, don't post up sentences like these, because they just make you look dubiously.

He's talking about providing the best experience for EU and US players when it goes to open beta. I know you're upset about EU missing out on this (I am too), but you're twisting his words to mean something else.

[XImpalerX]

Move to America. Blame GOA. nuff said.

[Calelith]

Edited for content.

[KiyokaMakibi]

I would like Mythic to say why this is only for NA players though to clear up the confusion. That would make me happy. Hope for a responce pleeeaaase!

[Cleofis]

*Edited for content*

[Syri]

I think it's that CE pre-orders in NA have had a bit of CB access and now 2 "PW"s and we still don't have an account centre less than 72 hours before OB starts.

I suppose I can see why that might be disappointing, and I am sorry that you guys are feeling rather left out.

On the other hand, I can see why they would pick such an 'easy' group to do this with, because as another poster already said the group was already established, and we already know what went wrong on the previous preview - it will likely be more apparent to those who were there fore the previous PW to see what changes were made etc, and to see the difference between the two.

[Grunk]

Come to Canada then! Anyways boo :( I'm getting my new computer parts tommorrow so I have to play on the crappy Laptop untill I build my new rig so I'll be multitasking!

[Scardydog]

PW players are a quick easy group to be able to grab. We already all have the game DLed, know what was wrong in PW, and are more than likely ready to roll within 10 minutes of them turning on the servers tomorrow.
I am not saying it doesnt suck that the EU players dont get in, i am just saying for this kind of short-notice, quick test, it makes sense to reuse a playerbase you already have. I guess the other option would have been a sample of CB players...but that is a whole different discussion

EU players also now have the game downloaded, and if GOA had got a move a move and put up the account center, we too would have been ready to roll.

[Artax]

I would like Mythic to say why this is only for NA players though to clear up the confusion. That would make me happy. Hope for a responce pleeeaaase!

because only NA players were there for the other preview weekend? its not like they are letting every pre-order NA player in, only the preview weekend folks.

[szlachcic]

People need to stop acting like a bunch of babies. It is a beta TEST, not a demo. You will be able to play in the open beta in a few more days. If anything they will have found more bugs from the extra Preview Weekend and you will be playing a better game because of it.

I wasn't going to post anything, but some of the attitudes in this thread are really appalling. Blame GOA, not Mythic.

[Groggen]

Give me a break, are you that worried about 2 days? Some of my friends aren't even planning on playing in open beta so they are better rested to spend time at the real launch. I hope you GOA folk DO get access tomorrow or Saturday but canceling your box over 2 days you didn't think you'd get anyway is silly.

I should've added..

/ponders getting US version.

With the kind of history GOA has with DAOC and from what we've seen so far they don't exactly brim with confidence. I don't get upset over just these 2 days.. I aint overly upset at all.. I would just hate to spend my CE key and then discover that the signs are true and EU will not get the same treatment after launch.

[Shark131]

WHY ARE TWO DAYS MAKING EVERYONE GO INSANE?!?!? Two days, the world is not ending. Get over it, the two days will be over before you know it.

[tungstun]

I think alot of people are missing the point.

They likely want to do a second preview weekend so they can ease themselves into the insane rush that will be the open beta..... last PW has some issues when it opened and they just want it to be a smooth launch since so many people will see OB as being representative of the final product......

I think alot of people are being very silly and selfish crying fowl. This is still beta stuff guys.... this is NOT the final product you have payed for.... this is them making sure their stuff is working right and taking the time to do it.... would you rather have them not do this at all? and risk having a catastrophic launch failure?

No of course you wouldn't.... so please understand you are entitled to nothing at this point because the game is not released.... anything until it is is simply testing and finalizing.

They are doing the best they can to make sure EU is looked after just as well as the US base is from a launch and final product point of view.... Getting upset over not being invited to help "test" something is completely crazy..... as is getting upset at character wipes.......


and i have to say this was expected.... there's always something fishy about a sunday/monday launch of anything....

[Syri]

As much as i'm really looking forward to Warhammer i'd rather cut my balls off with a blunt knife than move to America.


=X That was a rather disconcerting mental image... that succeeded in provoking a gigglesnort. Off topic, but true. xD

[Twip]

You are wrong.

It's not beta. It's Preview Weekend.
It is for people to Preview the game before it launches.

I actually think 'Preview Weekend' was just a bad name. Everyone knows these are glorified stress tests for a larger amount of people. If it was really a Preview Weekend, then they wouldn't have limited the participation at all.

[Robertus]

Hey all,

This is an exciting time for all of us, and I want to be very clear on what the purpose is for Preview Weekend+

We want to be able to provide the best experience for both our EU and NA playerbases, we decided that the way to ensure that as best as possible would be to invite a sample of those joining us for Open Beta and really hammer on everything and check to be sure the game is tip-top and ready to rock.

It's important we're able to get the concise, focused feedback we need in this short period of time and be able to respond with speed and flexibility to any issues that might arise over 48 hours.

I think we can all agree that allowing a few players to get in and help us create the best experience for you come Sunday is the best thing for all of us.

WAR is Coming, and it's only 3 days away!

Thanks all :)

So exciting you're leaving the Europeans out. Oh to be American.

[deyogee]

EU players also now have the game downloaded, and if GOA had got a move a move and put up the account center, we too would have been ready to roll.

I stand corrected on the downloading part, but nonetheless PWers are an already defined, and apparently just the right size, sample.

[johndoe]

Anybody knows how can I change EU client to US client?

I live in EU, but I was in US closed beta but now I will be in EU open beta and I thought EU and US open beta will start in the same time so I deleted the US client and downloaded the EU one.
But now US got +2 days. The client comes down from torrent very slowly so I decided not to download it only for 2 plus days (may it wouldn't download as fast :) ). But if there is a way to change the EU client to US only with some editing or download some files from US client then I would be happy.
Or... Is there any alternative download option for US client? My internet is fast, only this torrent is slow as hell.

Thank you for your help!

[saw77]

WHY ARE TWO DAYS MAKING EVERYONE GO INSANE?!?!? Two days, the world is not ending. Get over it, the two days will be over before you know it.

How fun it would be if it was the other way around , you would never complain hehe ;)

[shazzy]

thats a huge croc because there have been a few other mmo's where euro got quite a bit more than us in canada/usa so don't even start buddy and suck it up its 2 days dont be emo

Odd I'm from the UK and I've not come across any to date.

[AngelofWar87]

James, can we expect a wipe before OB is set to take off on our preview weekend+ characters?

[tungstun]

I actually think 'Preview Weekend' was just a bad name. Everyone knows these are glorified stress tests for a larger amount of people. If it was really a Preview Weekend, then they wouldn't have limited the participation at all.


correct.... i mean how can it be a preview for people to see the finished game if the next phase coming up is open BETA....... well it's just a misnomer.

this is still testing and it's still a form of beta... they just want to ease into the insane flood OB will bring.

calm.

[Mhambe]

Once again US get the extra and us EU left in dark. WE still haven't got our accountsite of and we need to last patch for OB. And now its friday and im off to a house with no computer friday/saturday... Gaaah!!:confused:

[HiGHPLaiNS]

Sweet!
As the MOTD says.. The suspense is terrible. I hope it'll last.

[Joemode]

Yee haa! This is awesome! Thanks Mythic.
CE Closed Beta, Preview Weekend, Preview Weekend Plus, Open Beta, Headstart.
Starting tomorrow, I will have nonstop WAR all the way into the release.

[Scardydog]

I think alot of people are missing the point.

They likely want to do a second preview weekend so they can ease themselves into the insane rush that will be the open beta..... last PW has some issues when it opened and they just want it to be a smooth launch since so many people will see OB as being representative of the final product......

I think alot of people are being very silly and selfish crying fowl. This is still beta stuff guys.... this is NOT the final product you have payed for.... this is them making sure their stuff is working right and taking the time to do it.... would you rather have them not do this at all? and risk having a catastrophic launch failure?

No of course you wouldn't.... so please understand you are entitled to nothing at this point because the game is not released.... anything until it is is simply testing and finalizing.

They are doing the best they can to make sure EU is looked after just as well as the US base is from a launch and final product point of view.... Getting upset over not being invited to help "test" something is completely crazy..... as is getting upset at character wipes.......


and i have to say this was expected.... there's always something fishy about a sunday/monday launch of anything....

See, the thing is...IMHO EU people are not actually annoyed about the fact that NA has had 2 PW's, its a fair treatment issue. While I accept and understand, as I'm sure everyone does, that this IS a beta, it is a matter of principle.

Many people signed up for the beta's, many people have purchased CE's and SE's and signed up for beta keys because they WANT to HELP test the game. It is also understandable that Mythic want to throughly the game etc before the Ob and the release. But why treat the EU people any different? Didn't they sign up for beta like everyone else? So why then, don't they get a PW? Are they not capable of testing also?

Saying that you are doing something for the good of the community, but at the technical expense of someone else is simply not fair. It is this that is annoying everyone. Not the fact that they are "missing out on something", but that they are being "treated differently".

[Minerva]

Please calm down everyone :( I understand that people from the EU are very frustrated.. I would be too. But the unnecessary flaming and rude posts are not going to help anything or anyone solve the issue. It only riles people up further...

[Finubon]

Well, since everyone is posting their grievances, I'm going to post mine... Damn you EA! I could have been in the PW if you sent me my bloody codes earlier. Ten freaking days to get me codes - ten days!
:rolleyes:
Teehee, I really don't care whether I get to try the game tomorrow or Sunday. It's only two days, so no worries :cool:

[Zythen]

As happy as I am for everyone that got the first NA Preview weekend including me... and for as pissed as alot of the GOA people are ill trade you... you can have my 2 days of extra beta and you can be in the path of Hanna and Ike which I know imm getting hit with Hanna tomrow and it looks like Ike allrdy a catagory 4 is following the same path as Hanna

[Thrasher257]

YES! thank you EaMythic, you just made my pre-order so worthwhile...ooo I wonder what class I should play...

[DarknSweet]

want to here somthing crazy, me and 46 others all from a WoW guild decieded to preoder and move to this game together. The crazy thing is my friend called up and asked if i saw the post yet about the new PW weekend. He and 31 others all decided to cancel thier preorders and not buy the game now, and wanted me to do the same. I'm staying , but dang i can't bielieve they would get this mad over it, we all where going to be in open beta together:(

I can't do see why they got this mad over it:( I don;t want to play WoW anymore and now a huge chunk of them are staying over two days of game play:(

[Mhambe]

See, the thing is...IMHO EU people are not actually annoyed about the fact that NA has had 2 PW's, its a fair treatment issue. While I accept and understand, as I'm sure everyone does, that this IS a beta, it is a matter of principle.

Many people signed up for the beta's, many people have purchased CE's and SE's and signed up for beta keys because they WANT to HELP test the game. It is also understandable that Mythic want to throughly the game etc before the Ob and the release. But why treat the EU people any different? Didn't they sign up for beta like everyone else? So why then, don't they get a PW? Are they not capable of testing also?

Saying that you are doing something for the good of the community, but at the technical expense of someone else is simply not fair. It is this that is annoying everyone. Not the fact that they are "missing out on something", but that they are being "treated differently".

I think the problem is, as in all oder stuff, MONEY, oh glory money.

[melanieshaman]

Please calm down everyone :( I understand that people from the EU are very frustrated.. I would be too. But the unnecessary flaming and rude posts are not going to help anything or anyone solve the issue. It only riles people up further...


QFT

This thread has a feel of the WoW boards with all the qqing :P

Mel

[Syrek]

He's talking about providing the best experience for EU and US players when it goes to open beta. I know you're upset about EU missing out on this (I am too), but you're twisting his words to mean something else.
Honestly, what type of reaction did he expect from EU preorders reading this thread?

"Oooh, nice, you baked another pie for the kids next door, from which we will get absolutely nothing!"

So, let's hope that the printing factory did a godly job at printing all those OB codes right, because god knows how big the shitstorm will be if people will have to miss out on OB too.
There is no room for correction in that godawful timeframe of signing up less than one single day before the supposed OB start.

[Ulfaro]

What does GOA stand for?

GOA is the videogames department of France Telecom’s “Division Contenus”, and benefits from 6+ years experience in the management of massively multiplayer online role-playing games.

[shazzy]

As happy as I am for everyone that got the first NA Preview weekend including me... and for as pissed as alot of the GOA people are ill trade you... you can have my 2 days of extra beta and you can be in the path of Hanna and Ike which I know imm getting hit with Hanna tomrow and it looks like Ike allrdy a catagory 4 is following the same path as Hanna

*hug* hope everything turns out ok for you, stay safe out there. You make our problems seem miniscule. Thank you. :)

[HiGHPLaiNS]

want to here somthing crazy, me and 46 others all from a WoW guild decieded to preoder and move to this game together. The crazy thing is my friend called up and asked if i saw the post yet about the new PW weekend. He and 31 others all decided to cancel thier preorders and not buy the game now, and wanted me to do the same. I'm staying , but dang i can't bielieve they would get this mad over it, we all where going to be in open beta together:(

I can't do see why they got this mad over it:( I don;t want to play WoW anymore and now a huge chunk of them are staying over two days of game play:(

I have said it once and I will say it again..

Its tough having pals..

[Aximand]

Clear Sky, Preview Weekend+, and Open Beta, this weekend's gonna rock.

One question. I had access to PW, but wasn't able to participate at all because I was out of town Friday-Monday. I assume (hope) I'm still eligible for PW+?

[tungstun]

See, the thing is...IMHO EU people are not actually annoyed about the fact that NA has had 2 PW's, its a fair treatment issue. While I accept and understand, as I'm sure everyone does, that this IS a beta, it is a matter of principle.

Many people signed up for the beta's, many people have purchased CE's and SE's and signed up for beta keys because they WANT to HELP test the game. It is also understandable that Mythic want to throughly the game etc before the Ob and the release. But why treat the EU people any different? Didn't they sign up for beta like everyone else? So why then, don't they get a PW? Are they not capable of testing also?

Saying that you are doing something for the good of the community, but at the technical expense of someone else is simply not fair. It is this that is annoying everyone. Not the fact that they are "missing out on something", but that they are being "treated differently".


I can see how that is frustrating... the thing to remember though.... alot of people over here also got left out of the preview weekend..... so they are also being treated 'differently'.... i understand that a large group in one geographical location being excluded stings a WHOLE lot more..... but being that it's still a testing phase, i really believe in the right of the company to exclude anyone they choose to better serve their testing needs..... until the launch proper that is.... or unless they gave their word that it would be otherwise....

Since this PW+ was never talked about or mentioned I think you have to let them slide once again on it.....

I do indeed feel for you guys though, as I was left out of the initial CE wave.....
and being a CE preorder person I feel a bit dissappointed that I get very small and piddling benefits over an SE preorder customer even though I payed almost double..... Though I suppose some people enjoy artbooks and statues......

but whatever..... that's hardly the same and I won't belittle your complaints by comparing my nitpicking to what you guys are dealing with....

lets just hope together that GOA will get things rolling and that OB will start right and Headstart will start right and that post launch you guys will be equals or even treated better at times maybe to make up for some of this heartache hahahahah.......

believe me i want to play with you guys as the LCD of that side of the pond is infinitely more pallatable than the LCD of this side......

[LuShang]

I'm so excited! And I just can't hide it! I'm about to lose control and I think I like it!!!!!!!



LOVE YOU MYTHIC

[Syri]

As happy as I am for everyone that got the first NA Preview weekend including me... and for as pissed as alot of the GOA people are ill trade you... you can have my 2 days of extra beta and you can be in the path of Hanna and Ike which I know imm getting hit with Hanna tomrow and it looks like Ike allrdy a catagory 4 is following the same path as Hanna


Ouch, us too. Just hope it doesn't cut into our playtime! (oh man, how nerdy does that sound of me? Hahaha!)

Hope all works out well for you, and I hope your remembered your storm shutters! :o

[Minerva]

Clear Sky, Preview Weekend+, and Open Beta, this weekend's gonna rock.

One question. I had access to PW, but wasn't able to participate at all because I was out of town Friday-Monday. I assume (hope) I'm still eligible for PW+?

I would assume that all accounts that are flagged to have preview weekend access would be able to play through this one.

[Kiloria]

WooooooHoooooooo!!! :p

<starts sharpening blades>

[tungstun]

want to here somthing crazy, me and 46 others all from a WoW guild decieded to preoder and move to this game together. The crazy thing is my friend called up and asked if i saw the post yet about the new PW weekend. He and 31 others all decided to cancel thier preorders and not buy the game now, and wanted me to do the same. I'm staying , but dang i can't bielieve they would get this mad over it, we all where going to be in open beta together:(

I can't do see why they got this mad over it:( I don;t want to play WoW anymore and now a huge chunk of them are staying over two days of game play:(


y'know their beta keys will still be active..... so like... why deprive themselves of beta completely i don't get it... that's like punishing yourself to make someone else feel bad.... and likely they won't even notice..
not to mention we're talking about testing a game here.... PW+ was never mentioned and never part of any deal... as such they have a right to exclude whomever they please... it's pure stress test material if you ask me..by the book and expected.


the point being a few weeks from now i'm pretty sure your friends will be back.

[Sunofagun]

Actually do you guys think they will wipe between Saturday and Sunday or we consider this as a 2 day advance on the Open Beta?

[Zythen]

I would assume that all accounts that are flagged to have preview weekend access would be able to play through this one.

yah weve brought everything indoors and have the bords rdy if Hanna moves from a cat 1 to something stronger. Ike if it comes the way its looking could be somethign we have to evacuate for

[tungstun]

I'd say there will be a wipe
....
but it would also make sense for them not to have one so they can have a smoother launch with a big chunk of people already out of that first tier... not mucking it up still

and people established in the other tiers for games to be running up there already when new people rank in.


so i guess i'm saying we have no idea hahahahah both are slightly plausible. the wipe moreso i think.

[Scardydog]

I can see how that is frustrating... the thing to remember though.... alot of people over here also got left out of the preview weekend..... so they are also being treated 'differently'....

Thats not a matter of being treated differently, they actually had the option and ability to get in. Not getting selected for something is not the same as never even being invited in the first place.

The reasoning behind the "preview weekend" is a little flawed it seems to me also. By essence, surely a "preview" is a look at something, not a test. They have named it badly and I saw a post from one of the reps saying something like..."its not an extended OB, its a preview weekend". I can't find the quote, but you see what I mean?

[Kyrrah]

As happy as I am for everyone that got the first NA Preview weekend including me... and for as pissed as alot of the GOA people are ill trade you... you can have my 2 days of extra beta and you can be in the path of Hanna and Ike which I know imm getting hit with Hanna tomrow and it looks like Ike allrdy a catagory 4 is following the same path as Hanna

I'm in the path too. So while I get the PW+ I don't know if I'll be able to use it.

[fishboy1111]

James, can we expect a wipe before OB is set to take off on our preview weekend+ characters?

This is what I want to know. If there is gonna be a wipe I'm not gonna be playing very much but if the characters will carry over to open beta then I'm gonna be hitting it pretty hard :p

[KeyzerSoze]

Are people seriously getting butt-hurt over this? Look to yourself or your retailer to blame if you didnt preorder the game/get codes in time to get into preview weekend.

[Robertus]

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[Vresh]

Hello everyone.

First, I just want to say, YES. YES YES YES YES YES. PW+ AND OB ....

Now that that's out of the way, I want to recover from the kick in the nads that is the server uptime.

Friday, 9-5 ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????????????
Ok, scratch day 1, I have to pay my bills. Work > WAR.

Saturday, 9-6. Now, normally, I wouldn't have a problem with this, except for the fact that I have had saturday planned as quality time with the Mrs. for at least a few weeks now.
Ok, scratch day 2.

So, I guess no PW+ for me, although I did thoroughly enjoy the first Preview Weekend. And the CE Closed Beta too. Plus I still get to play all day on Sunday when Open Beta launches.


Grats everyone and a special grats to the Mythic team. Way to go guys! You all deserve a pat on the back and at least a week off for your monumental efforts to get this game going.

You're going to hit the ground running with this one, guys. Here's to a solid launch!

Three cheers for the WHOLE MYTHIC TEAM! Hip-hip! Hip-hip! Hip-hip!


- Vresh.

[tungstun]

Thats not a matter of being treated differently, they actually had the option and ability to get in. Not getting selected for something is not the same as never even being invited in the first place.

The reasoning behind the "preview weekend" is a little flawed it seems to me also. By essence, surely a "preview" is a look at something, not a test. They have named it badly and I saw a post from one of the reps saying something like..."its not an extended OB, its a preview weekend". I can't find the quote, but you see what I mean?


oh yes i agree very much it was very poorly named.... but regardless of what he said.... just looking at it logically... it's obviously still a beta... as OB is what follows...... which is still a beta... and as such it's testing. and i agree the people left out here compared to you guys is apples to oranges... but the stronger point i made was the bit about the companies right to exclude anyone they choose from a phase of testing. that's just how it works. including more people than the first PW would skew all the results of whatever test they will be running friday morning.... obviously there is a reason for wanting back the same number of people as the first run... they want to test that initial login and influx again... because that was probably the most rocky bit they had.

once again though.. I feel for you i really do, but i don't think you have a leg to stand on crying fowl quite yet....... this is just bringing up that old PW wound.... which you did have a right to be upset about..... they should have named it something else anyway. bad naming on their part.

once again.. OB and launch will be the true test of GOA... if they muck that up i side with you guys completely. even going retroactive to this point. hahahahah.

[Sn0wCrash]

all of this is exactly the reason why I preordered my copy the DAY they went on sale......

EDIT: and all my apologies to the EU players for GOA sucking

[Darth]

/agree 100%

[KeyzerSoze]

I met many Europeans in the PW, they obviously found a way in.

[Satia]

James, can we expect a wipe before OB is set to take off on our preview weekend+ characters?

This is what I'd like to know. It's not a big issue either way, but just curious.

[BlowFish]

GOA is the videogames department of France Telecom’s “Division Contenus”, and benefits from 6+ years experience in the management of massively multiplayer online role-playing games.

That always makes me smile. I wonder if they concider all those flash games MMO's?.....hmm anyone see a theme here.

[Artax]

Now that that's out of the way, I want to recover from the kick in the nads that is the server uptime.

Friday, 9-5 ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????????????
Ok, scratch day 1, I have to pay my bills. Work > WAR.

Saturday, 9-6. Now, normally, I wouldn't have a problem with this, except for the fact that I have had saturday planned as quality time with the Mrs. for at least a few weeks now.
Ok, scratch day 2.

So, I guess no PW+ for me, although I did thoroughly enjoy the first Preview Weekend. And the CE Closed Beta too. Plus I still get to play all day on Sunday when Open Beta launches.




not 9am-5pm but 9/5 and 9/6, but with what you said seems you still might not have time, unless u can play late in the night after you've completed those things

[itnar]

THANK YOU MYTHIC!! This is awesome news!!

[Tinuva]

want to here somthing crazy, me and 46 others all from a WoW guild decieded to preoder and move to this game together. The crazy thing is my friend called up and asked if i saw the post yet about the new PW weekend. He and 31 others all decided to cancel thier preorders and not buy the game now, and wanted me to do the same. I'm staying , but dang i can't bielieve they would get this mad over it, we all where going to be in open beta together:(

I can't do see why they got this mad over it:( I don;t want to play WoW anymore and now a huge chunk of them are staying over two days of game play:(

LMAO cancel their orders over 2 days of beta? its 2 days of playing thats gonna get wiped in 8 days. If they canceled over that then they didnt truly want to play any way. good riddance

[Scardydog]

oh yes i agree very much it was very poorly named.... but regardless of what he said.... just looking at it logically... it's obviously still a beta... as OB is what follows...... which is still a beta... and as such it's testing. and i agree the people left out here compared to you guys is apples to oranges... but the stronger point i made was the bit about the companies right to exclude anyone they choose from a phase of testing. that's just how it works. including more people than the first PW would skew all the results of whatever test they will be running friday morning.... obviously there is a reason for wanting back the same number of people as the first run... they want to test that initial login and influx again... because that was probably the most rocky bit they had.

once again though.. I feel for you i really do, but i don't think you have a leg to stand on crying fowl quite yet....... this is just bringing up that old PW wound.... which you did have a right to be upset about..... they should have named it something else anyway. bad naming on their part.

once again.. OB and launch will be the true test of GOA... if they muck that up i side with you guys completely. even going retroactive to this point. hahahahah.

I do have to agree with you that they are completely within their rights to exclude whomever they choose, however, we do currently have others issues in the EU. We, as yet, don't even have an accounts page. Even without being allowed into the PW+, there could still be many many problems ahead for us, with only 2-3 days to go the accounts page could break, the patchers could fail....this is only the latest in a long line of unfair/slow/unprofessional things that have happened. None of which are Mythics fault, i might add, but too many straws will break the camels back :(

[Grumble]

James, can we expect a wipe before OB is set to take off on our preview weekend+ characters?

Do us a favor and answer this, if you would please?

[Player Killer]

I guess the other option would have been a sample of CB players...but that is a whole different discussion

Don't know about you m8 but me and many other EU Cb players are here since 2007 and yet since we'r EU we'r apparently not good enough with feedback...
It might sound silly to you all but here we just feel like we get the left over once again and since WE ALL payed the same it kinda sux. But then again that's just my opinion.

~Pk

[afastrunner]

There will be no wipe after the PW+. The whole point of this extra 2 days is them wanting most people who have allready played the game some during PW to lvl out of the t1 content so that the real new people don't deal with too much overcrowding.

It's basicly the same thing early start is for.

As for my friends across the pond. Mythic is not at all responsible for GOA's choices. it's GOA's money that would be spent to put servers up early and GOA that is letting people down.

[Tools2Basic]

I met many Europeans in the PW, they obviously found a way in.
That's because they bought the US version.
I have never really bothered to complain about this but when the US folks get's a second PW and we don't even have a place to enter our codes, it makes me wounder how the servers will be handled at release. :rolleyes:
I hope GOA get's it's act together for when it matters (release date).

[Sigvard]

And for the EU players this weekend we got????

Ahh börjar bli förbannad, varken mer eller mindre.. :mad:

[Xstatik]

Christ on a bicycle, this sucks for us EU peeps, thanks again Mythic & GOA! Your awesome combined gankfest has really made us feel like 2nd rate customers...can't thank you enough!

[Syri]

I do have to agree with you that they are completely within their rights to exclude whomever they choose, however, we do currently have others issues in the EU. We, as yet, don't even have an accounts page. Even without being allowed into the PW+, there could still be many many problems ahead for us, with only 2-3 days to go the accounts page could break, the patchers could fail....this is only the latest in a long line of unfair/slow/unprofessional things that have happened. None of which are Mythics fault, i might add, but too many straws will break the camels back :(


Yeesh. Sounds like Mythic needs to find a new server/provider over there. GOA may end up costing them not only hours worth of paperwork/complaint handling/angry customers, but... could in the end cost them sales and subscriptions, too.

Oof. I hope GOA gets on the ball and gets things up and running for you guys. I'd be pretty pissed off too.



On a off note... can someone try to answer a question for me?

One of my very dear friends from wow is an Aussie player who wants to come to WAR with my honey and I. He preordered, and all that good stuff... but when it goes live, will he be able to play with us on the NA servers... or will we have to buy and ship him a NA copy of the game to accomplish that?

[Sleight]

Seriously EU peeps, is it really that big of a deal?

Seriously. Think about it.

Is it? It's not like we're getting an extra 2 days head start on our retail characters.

[Xstatik]

Btw no need to thank us for CREATING the IP

[tungstun]

I do have to agree with you that they are completely within their rights to exclude whomever they choose, however, we do currently have others issues in the EU. We, as yet, don't even have an accounts page. Even without being allowed into the PW+, there could still be many many problems ahead for us, with only 2-3 days to go the accounts page could break, the patchers could fail....this is only the latest in a long line of unfair/slow/unprofessional things that have happened. None of which are Mythics fault, i might add, but too many straws will break the camels back :(

i totally get that.

yeah... i really hope mythic gets on GOA about this.... like seriously reams them because you guys deserve better and if this OB and launch doesn't go smooth i anticipate lots of trouble.

they need to get those account pages up NOW.

i mean christ i'll help code it c'mon guys it can't be all that bad. is this more french labor law shenanigans?

[Artax]

Yeesh. Sounds like Mythic needs to find a new server/provider over there. GOA may end up costing them not only hours worth of paperwork/complaint handling/angry customers, but... could in the end cost them sales and subscriptions, too.

Oof. I hope GOA gets on the ball and gets things up and running for you guys. I'd be pretty pissed off too.



On a off note... can someone try to answer a question for me?

One of my very dear friends from wow is an Aussie player who wants to come to WAR with my honey and I. He preordered, and all that good stuff... but when it goes live, will he be able to play with us on the NA servers... or will we have to buy and ship him a NA copy of the game to accomplish that?

im pretty sure mythic is handling oceanic players as they had oceanic servers up in the PW and he can join you on a non-oceanic server but im sure it would be super laggy for him

[Xstatik]

Yeesh. Sounds like Mythic needs to find a new server/provider over there. GOA may end up costing them not only hours worth of paperwork/complaint handling/angry customers, but... could in the end cost them sales and subscriptions, too.

Oof. I hope GOA gets on the ball and gets things up and running for you guys. I'd be pretty pissed off too.



On a off note... can someone try to answer a question for me?

One of my very dear friends from wow is an Aussie player who wants to come to WAR with my honey and I. He preordered, and all that good stuff... but when it goes live, will he be able to play with us on the NA servers... or will we have to buy and ship him a NA copy of the game to accomplish that?

To be fair its not just GOA, its a lack of communication between GOA and Mythic - this has been stated and come to light many times, i.e the recent patch notes leak etc etc

[Demonfetus]

yea I was also wondering about the PW characters carrying over to the Beta from this friday/sat.

[Xstatik]

Seriously EU peeps, is it really that big of a deal?

Seriously. Think about it.

Is it? It's not like we're getting an extra 2 days head start on our retail characters.

You know please don't ask redundant questions, of course its a deal, otherwise you wouldn't have asked the question...

[tungstun]

Btw no need to thank us for CREATING the IP


hahahahahhahaha....

+20 renown!

[Xstatik]

hahahahahhahaha....

+20 renown!

hehe thanks, that's slightly aleviated my frustration - now i just need to find a small child and steal his/her/its candy

[Grumble]

There will be no wipe after the PW+. The whole point of this extra 2 days is them wanting most people who have allready played the game some during PW to lvl out of the t1 content so that the real new people don't deal with too much overcrowding.

It's basicly the same thing early start is for.

As for my friends across the pond. Mythic is not at all responsible for GOA's choices. it's GOA's money that would be spent to put servers up early and GOA that is letting people down.

Your analysis sounds plausable, and I hope you are right, but I think you could interpret the information either way. Unfortunately to me it sounded more like they wanted to stress test BEFORE the regular OB begins fresh.

[Teeto]

First to Mythic... YOU... GUYS... ROCK!

Second to the EU testers... Yes, it sucks. But look on the bright side, this is all playtime that's just going to get wiped out anyway. I seriously can't believe that people would get so worked up over this to cancel their preorders.

In fact, the majority of the dev posts anymore are dealing with the EU version. It's not like Mythic is ignoring EU players or saying their concerns aren't valid. They're doing the opposite. Why punish the studio over percieved deficiencies of the middle man that has nothing to do with development or production?

[Gordonheim]

Do I have to Download a new client or will the first preview weekened client just be patched?

[Deadman]

Your analysis sounds plausable, and I hope you are right, but I think you could interpret the information either way. Unfortunately to me it sounded more like they wanted to stress test BEFORE the regular OB begins fresh.

Time to call Kari! Oh, and I guess Jamie and Adam can come along as well...

[speeddemon123]

i love you mythic

[Vahsyl]

Proof positive the game rocks is that people who can't play post in such an angry way. ;)

Anyway, so excited, but my heart goes out to my EU brethren. I hope GOA comes through, but remember to treat this more like Mythic doing all they can to make the game great for EVERYONE.

After all, two extra days of hammering and testing will only make Open Beta that much better for you guys once you get in. (I.E., issues that would have normally cropped up Sunday will now have a headstart on being fixed before then, and furthermore, it's two more days to make everything better before Headstart/Release).

All in all, it's a good decision. The alternative would be to say "Well since we can't let EVERYONE in, we shouldn't test two days early."

Frankly I do not see how that alternative answer would help the game. This special PW+ only helps the game.

[Randell44]

Don't get mad at Mythic folks, GOA is your culprit. Mythic is the American side of the issue and has done their job splendidly. GOA however seems to have fallen down at every turn.

[Demonfetus]

You know Mythic made a kick game when people are fighting to play the game like 7 days before release. I do feel for the Euro people because frankly, free or not they are kinnda missing out.

To counter argue the lack of EU PW days. Mythic is an American company right? Maybe they are biased towards American testers. Americans are their homies after all.

Again, I love everyone equally so I hope everyone gets the same bonuses but sometimes people have to make tough decisions. I am sure Mythic would want everyone in the galaxy to play their game TODAY and RIGHT NOW.

[Syri]

im pretty sure mythic is handling oceanic players as they had oceanic servers up in the PW and he can join you on a non-oceanic server but im sure it would be super laggy for him

Hmm, I do sincerely hope so that he can join us.... but I hope it WONT be too terribly laggy! We want him to enjoy the game so he stays and plays with us, not leave because it's as bad as an IF horde zerg.... >.>


To be fair its not just GOA, its a lack of communication between GOA and Mythic - this has been stated and come to light many times, i.e the recent patch notes leak etc etc

Hmm. Still strikes me as odd that the company hasn't even gotten your account forums up yet though. Either way... whoever's fault it is.... I hope it gets rectified. Life may not be fair, but it sucks when stuff that should be isn't.

/carebear hug to EU folks...?

[Sleight]

You know please don't ask redundant questions, of course its a deal, otherwise you wouldn't have asked the question...

Seriously though man, it's a dang video game. People act like missing out on 2 days of playing a video game BETA is some atrocity that happened in World War II or something. My friend and I both ordered new PCs for this game, and hers is going to show up late for open beta and mine came 3 days ago. It's not really cool but there's no use crying and screaming at Mythic for something that isn't even likely their problem to begin with. I mean, I feel you and know you really want to play but step back and take an objective look at it.

One week after retail and you won't even care about it anymore.

And if you guys are so upset about it then start a gaming company and bust your butts like Mythic and create a better "GOA" instead of working 6 hour days and taking siestas all the time ;) Better yet, complain to GOA, since that's where the problem obviously is.

[zbis]

so are our characters for friday, saturday gonna be deleted or not? answer...please...

[tungstun]

First to Mythic... YOU... GUYS... ROCK!

Second to the EU testers... Yes, it sucks. But look on the bright side, this is all playtime that's just going to get wiped out anyway. I seriously can't believe that people would get so worked up over this to cancel their preorders.

In fact, the majority of the dev posts anymore are dealing with the EU version. It's not like Mythic is ignoring EU players or saying their concerns aren't valid. They're doing the opposite. Why punish the studio over percieved deficiencies of the middle man that has nothing to do with development or production?

welll to be fair they are not just getting worked up over that.... there's been a perpetual air of grievance with GOA and the communication between Mythic and GOA in general... the problem is the naming of this event is just opening an old wound.... hopefully things are already improved between the two and the launch and OB will go smashingly for the EU crowd and all will be forgiven....

all we can do now is wait and see what they do.
and pray to sigmar or tzeentch or whoever you want.

[Xstatik]

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[Sleight]

so are our characters for friday, saturday gonna be deleted or not? answer...please...

Well one thing is for sure, they'll be deleted before the Head Start.

[Syri]

Do I have to Download a new client or will the first preview weekened client just be patched?


It will probably just be patched.

[Deadman]

Do I have to Download a new client or will the first preview weekened client just be patched?

Patched.10

[Bleeder]

umm.. is that friday 12:01 AM ?

:cool:

[Darth]

I seriously can't believe that people would get so worked up over this to cancel their preorders.


It really simple actually. In a nutshell, with $1 i can buy 3 apples in the US, in the EU with that SAME $1 I get ****

[Player Killer]

want to here somthing crazy, me and 46 others all from a WoW guild decieded to preoder and move to this game together. The crazy thing is my friend called up and asked if i saw the post yet about the new PW weekend. He and 31 others all decided to cancel thier preorders and not buy the game now, and wanted me to do the same. I'm staying , but dang i can't bielieve they would get this mad over it, we all where going to be in open beta together:(

I can't do see why they got this mad over it:( I don;t want to play WoW anymore and now a huge chunk of them are staying over two days of game play:(

Same happened here man.. I'm on Ts right now with 40 members of MY tribe we'r right now playng LOTRO and we wanted to move to WAR all togheter, we all got CE preorder and just too many things have happened for EU (not getting into CE, not getting PW, not having the possibility to insert codes and DWN the client the 15th of august like the US guys and now this PW+... Oh did i forget to mention the flash eu site and the fact that at 2 days from OB theres still nothing about the codes?).
Out of 40 we'r 2 left... and i'm afraid by tomorrow we are going to cancell the preorder.
Now don't get me wrong here.. Its not about all the cookies... And certanly not cuz of this 2 days, its just that as customers we don't feel to have the same treatment, and for sayng this as 1 of the older CB eu players you really have to understand.
I personally don't want to point my finger at Mytich or GOA cuz the way i see it they'r partners and for the way its looking it looks like they'r passing over the fault to eachother but at the end of the day, EU players NEVER up to 2day have got the same treatment as NA.
By sayng this, good luck to everyone, its been nice to hang around with you all and i hope it was worthit after, would be bad seing War fail after the first 6 months.

~Pk
/waves.

[Deadman]

umm.. is that friday 12:01 AM ?

:cool:

Friday morning. So probably some time between 8am and 11am. IIRC the first PW started around 10am.

[Sleight]

It really simple actually. In a nutshell, with $1 i can buy 3 apples in the US, in the EU with that SAME $1 I get ****

The Euro is at 1.5ish dollars right now. Please don't act like that's some big difference.

[Satia]

want to here somthing crazy, me and 46 others all from a WoW guild decieded to preoder and move to this game together. The crazy thing is my friend called up and asked if i saw the post yet about the new PW weekend. He and 31 others all decided to cancel thier preorders and not buy the game now, and wanted me to do the same. I'm staying , but dang i can't bielieve they would get this mad over it, we all where going to be in open beta together:(

I can't do see why they got this mad over it:( I don;t want to play WoW anymore and now a huge chunk of them are staying over two days of game play:(

So they're canceling over something that was never promised to them to begin with? C'mon that's just silly. Come, play warhammer (a whole 2 days later, at the time that it was originally promised) and you'll have fun.

[EvilDruidNE]

so are our characters for friday, saturday gonna be deleted or not? answer...please...

yeah i want to know this too, i dont feel like losing characters 4 times before head start

[Xstatik]

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[Red Asphalt]

This comes as a bit of a surprise, but really makes a lot of sense. They obviously want to test how much things get spread out if a certain percentage have a few days of head start.

Think about it -- announcing at the last minute ensures a larger percentage of people are going to have conflicting plans, so it breaks up the OB into "head start" and "not head start". Just like real release is going to be.

This way they get a good feeling for how crowded/overloaded tier 1 is going to be with the release head start splitting people into 2/3 waves (depending how you count the CE day). If t1 stays more crowded than they expected it would given a headstart, they might see about dividing up server resources differently come the first day of release. This also lets them get a handle on how quickly they should open up new servers to keep things as close to even as possible, to avoid early servers being swamped with queues and later ones being deserted.

Given all this, I doubt we'll see a wipe between PW+ and OB. Unless they had a late wipe a day or two into OB, it would throw away the chance to see what a couple-day head start does to populations.

[Syri]

It really simple actually. In a nutshell, with $1 i can buy 3 apples in the US, in the EU with that SAME $1 I get ****

Well of course not, silly.... you have to go to the bank and get it exchanged first! ;)

[Minerva]

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[Sn0wCrash]

Same happened here man.. I'm on Ts right now with 40 members of MY tribe we'r right now playng LOTRO and we wanted to move to WAR all togheter, we all got CE preorder and just too many things have happened for EU (not getting into CE, not getting PW, not having the possibility to insert codes and DWN the client the 15th of august like the US guys and now this PW+... Oh did i forget to mention the flash eu site and the fact that at 2 days from OB theres still nothing about the codes?).
Out of 40 we'r 2 left... and i'm afraid by tomorrow we are going to cancell the preorder.
Now don't get me wrong here.. Its not about all the cookies... And certanly not cuz of this 2 days, its just that as customers we don't feel to have the same treatment, and for sayng this as 1 of the older CB eu players you really have to understand.
I personally don't want to point my finger at Mytich or GOA cuz the way i see it they'r partners and for the way its looking it looks like they'r passing over the fault to eachother but at the end of the day, EU players NEVER up to 2day have got the same treatment as NA.
By sayng this, good luck to everyone, its been nice to hang around with you all and i hope it was worthit after, would be bad seing War fail after the first 6 months.

~Pk
/waves.

this seems to me like a sad and convoluted attempt (as does the previous post of i have 40+ players that are going to quit blah blah blah) to try to get mythic to bend to your guys' wills. i have an idea, why dont all of you hop in your cars and go TO france and go to the GOA headquarters and ask THEM wtf is going on instead of blaming MYTHIC, MJ has stated REPEATEDLY that what GOA decides to do has NAUGHT to do with mythics decisions.

I really am sorry that you guys are missing out on PW+ and that GOA has proverbially humped the dog on this one, but WHY go and blame MYTHIC for it?

2 cents. This is not meant to be rude or a flame, just DONT YOU THINK 17 PAGES OF THIS CRAP IS ENOUGH!?!?!?!?!?!?!? THIS IS A NA FORUM, NOT EU.

edit for spelling edit again because i cant count >.<

[Mathis]

lol, i had a paper i was gonna write 2morrow... hopefully the teacher understands.

[Red Asphalt]

It really simple actually. In a nutshell, with $1 i can buy 3 apples in the US, in the EU with that SAME $1 I get ****
Yeah, but with the exchange rates with 1 euro you can buy 3 apples in the EU, but in the US with that same 1 euro you can buy a small orchard and pay the staff for a month.

[johndoe]

Anybody knows how can I change EU client to US client?

I live in EU, but I was in US closed beta but now I will be in EU open beta and I thought EU and US open beta will start in the same time so I deleted the US client and downloaded the EU one.
But now US got +2 days. The client comes down from torrent very slowly so I decided not to download it only for 2 plus days (may it wouldn't download as fast :) ). But if there is a way to change the EU client to US only with some editing or download some files from US client then I would be happy.
Or... Is there any alternative download option for US client? My internet is fast, only this torrent is slow as hell.

Thank you for your help!

Sorry, for reposting my post, I would like to give it another try. I hope you won't be angry, but I go to sleep now and I wanted to give this another chance.

And.... sorry for awful english...:sad:

[oaag]

lol, i had a paper i was gonna write 2morrow... hopefully the teacher understands.

good luck with that :p

[Minerva]

Sorry, for reposting my post, I would like to give it another try. I hope you won't be angry, but I go to sleep now and I wanted to give this another chance.

And.... sorry for awful english...:sad:

Your English is fine :)

As for your question.. I think that you'll have to redownload the US client if you want to play on US servers. :( Unless someone more educated on this subject can state otherwise.

[Hexcaliber]

A number of the NA posters on this board need to back up and stop taking this extra pw in isolation and using it as an excuse to wag fingers in the direction of the EU. Long before launch, there was a great deal of trepidation about GOA being Mythic's partner in this venture. Their handling of daoc was a sham, with the EU getting patches weeks after the US, longer server downtimes to patch, and the list goes on and on.

Then we have the run up to this launch, we have Mythic promising we will be treated as equals and receive the same standard of service. Then the NA CE pre order program is launched, and the EU is left in the dark scratching around for any info it can find, Meanwhile in NA the first ppl to register their pre order keys get into CLOSED Beta and the EU still doesn’t know what the score is with our CE.

Move forward in time a little and communication from goa has been severely lacking, the website is not being updated, EU pre orders find out they get NO closed beta access like the NA pre orders, and discover that a preview weekend is also in the offing across the pond. Meanwhile, months after pre ordering has been going on in the EU, the euro website still has not been updated and there still isn’t any provision for pre orders to consume their pre order keys and set up an account.

During all this, confidence has been slipping ever downward in the EU over this launch, it became clear weeks ago that equal treatment was just a pipedream and an empty promise. Then we have this latest kick in the balls, there is nothing else to call it for that’s exactly what it is, when it comes on the back of everything else.

This isn’t an unexpected unprovoked uproar over 2 days of PW, it is the culmination of the differences in treatment between the EU and NA thus far after being promised that the farce that was goa+ daoc would not be repeated. This whole thing is leaving a bad taste in player’s mouths and it is already resulting in lost accounts for mythic.