Why Orcs are just better

[Klitch]

Why?

Because we get this http://www.war-rvr.net/index.php?option=com_rsgallery2&Itemid=29&page=inline&catid=17&id=825&limitstart=29&limit=1&limitstart=30

Pretty much the best thing ever. :mrgreen:



Now if only Choppa's could get that skill too......

[Guido]

Naysayers will get it right in the jibblies.

[Duerghaul]

Jibblies, eh? At least we got em. Ya know, Greenskins dont mate. They're born from spores. Does that mean ya lads aint got no "equipment" down there? Yikes, no wonder theyre so angry...they dont get any "action".

[Robjamysan]

http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7439

[Klitch]

http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7439

Indeed, i felt the need to share this with the dwarves too, seeing as they might want to know exaclty what is coming their way once WAR beginnings

[AlienOverlord]

Awesome. Just freaking awesome.

You think you can spend ability ponts (or whatever they're called) to become the highest ranked expert in that one move?

I just noticed the icon for it too - ouch :)

[Snorri]

Ok, so you'll hit us in the jiggles and knock us down for two seconds.
We'll just rip your heads off.

I think that solves that....


Awsome ability though! :p

[Adamare_Von_Libervitz]

I'd have to agree with my comrade on this one, it is an aswesome ability but once you've kicked us and knocked us down for two seconds there's no stopping us tearing off yer limbs.

[Doom]

and what happens when i pic myself back up? ripping of the legs.

[Scirrocco]

This may be a primitive world, but the Cup has already been invented. Kick it all day, i won't feel a thing. i'll just cut your leg off when i get bored.

[DeathsHorizon]

Im glad im on their side, Id rather not get kicked in the jibblies

Now only if we could get something like that, but it invovles tentacles.

Chaos Reigns :chaos:

[Moonbane]

I'd have to agree with my comrade on this one, it is an aswesome ability but once you've kicked us and knocked us down for two seconds there's no stopping us tearing off yer limbs.

Black orcs are gentlemen, and always go two steps backwards after the crippeling shot to the jibblies, theres no way we would kick, chop or otherwise maime you while youre down and out... or is there!?

[Bloodball]

while your down on the ground Ill be makin you shorter, no legs then no arms and lets see if some classic Monty Python stuff happens maybe?

[Snorri]

Making us shorter? With what? A wet snotling?
Don't try and convince me that your weak arms could raise an axe. ;) :p

[vehemoth]

Sounds like a strategic way to cause your enemy great pain and destroy his ability to reproduce; even though he will get up and savagely maim your miscreated body and then slaughter countless other worthless greenskins, he won't have sons for you all to fear. :rolleyes:

I got this froma dwarf insult thread:

Girly Hanky Waving Sissy

:p

[Balthemor]

Yeah orcs are better than us at one thing and one thing only

BEING GIRLY ELF LOVING TROLL TURDS!

taken off insult thread

and don't make me laugh your so girly that you can barly lift a plastic axe let alone use it to cut anything stronger than air Hahahaha........

[Snorri]

I think the thread title should be changed to:
"Why Orcs are just dead."

:p

[Grrblt]

Ok, so you'll hit us in the jiggles and knock us down for two seconds.
We'll just rip your heads off.
Nonsense! You can't reach their heads, or anyone else's for that matter.

[Doom]

Nonsense! You can't reach their heads, or anyone else's for that matter.

Im sure he ment to rip his head off after he chops there legs. No need to reach. :p

[Grrblt]

Im sure he ment to rip his head off after he chops there legs. No need to reach. :p

Ripping off heads by first chopping off legs implies getting within reach, which, as I said, Dwarfs will find themselves unable to do because they die on the way.

[Balthemor]

Ripping off heads by first chopping off legs implies getting within reach, which, as I said, Dwarfs will find themselves unable to do because they die on the way.

Oh so you orcs have become so ugly that as soon as we get within range of sight we just die from the horrible mangirl uglyness of orks?

Who said we need an axe or hammer anyway? I'll blow ye ead off with mah pistol

[Klitch]

Oh so you orcs have become so ugly that as soon as we get within range of sight we just die from the horrible mangirl uglyness of orks?

Who said we need an axe or hammer anyway? I'll blow ye ead off with mah pistol

That just sounds a like a coward of a dwarf to me.

[Kazgut]

I bet right in the jibbles is exactly the reason why Dwarfs are now a dieing race. Back to the mountains wiv yuz gitz we'ze got da supa kickz an' yuz got no babiez!

[Balthemor]

That just sounds a like a coward of a dwarf to me.

How is that being a cowerd?

It's more convenient for me to blast your head to bits rather than crush ye with my hammer and get all ork bits and blood on me It's a bad look when ah'm drinking beer

Don't you dare talk about mating your fungus!

[Snorri]

Nonsense! You can't reach their heads, or anyone else's for that matter

Ripping off heads by first chopping off legs implies getting within reach, which, as I said, Dwarfs will find themselves unable to do because they die on the way.

I'll lift you from the floor with a trusty uppercut. As you fall I'll shred you like sliced salami with my axes, until there is nothing left of you but some very thin layers of green flesh.

Dwarfs die on the way? From what exactly? Fright?
Don’t make me laugh, we've sent Daemons back to their masters and Dragons back to hell - you are an insignificant bug and you will be treated as one; we'll squash you into an unrecognizable piece of sludge and smear your remains all over the walls.


We'll go back to our mountains when we’ve placed you all on a very large funeral pyre.

Until then, cry all you want... it's what you orcs do best.

[Grrblt]

I'll lift you from the floor with a trusty uppercut. As you fall I'll shred you like sliced salami with my axes, until there is nothing left of you but some very thin layers of green flesh.

Dwarfs die on the way? From what exactly? Fright?
Don’t make me laugh, we've sent Daemons back to their masters and Dragons back to hell - you are an insignificant bug and you will be treated as one; we'll squash you into an unrecognizable piece of sludge and smear your remains all over the walls.


We'll go back to our mountains when we’ve placed you all on a very large funeral pyre.

Until then, cry all you want... it's what you orcs do best.
"We orcs"? I'll be playing an Elf (who as a race, incidentally, have sent back way more Daemons and actually tamed Dragons which your ilk could never hope to do). But it comes to no surprise that a Dwarf would mistake me for an orc; those thick jungles you wear on your foreheads for no apparent reason are known to severely impair both your vision and your sense of smell.

Dwarfs die on the way from pretty much anything, but in terms of WAR it'll be mostly Waaagh! spells and Squigs. Or if none such are available, you just die from the longer arm of a Choppa. If you knew how to properly wield a spear or shoot a bow however, you might actually have a chance to fell a Greenskin.

[Warfield]

Dwarfs die on the way from pretty much anything, but in terms of WAR it'll be mostly Waaagh! spells and Squigs. Or if none such are available, you just die from the longer arm of a Choppa. If you knew how to properly wield a spear or shoot a bow however, you might actually have a chance to fell a Greenskin. If elves knew how to make proper armor they wouldn't be forced to fight at range. Fortunately for you, high elves and Dwarfs will be fighting on the same side, because this gross underestimation of what an organized group of Dwarfs can do would certainly be your undoing.

[Grrblt]

If elves knew how to make proper armor they wouldn't be forced to fight at range. Fortunately for you, high elves and Dwarfs will be fighting on the same side, because this gross underestimation of what an organized group of Dwarfs can do would certainly be your undoing.

Elves hardly need to fight at range (who has the most warmachines eh?), and we don't need "proper armor" either. We can simply dodge the intensely slow swings of something as primitive as an Orc. Fortunately for me, Dwarfs are on my team, so when the Greenskins grow tired of what the Dwarf capital looks like from the inside (it's Dwarf-made and ought to be pretty uninteresting), they will come to our fair Isle and we will have twice as many to cut down.

[Bloodstorm]

Fortunately for me, Dwarfs are on my team,

Oh aye, you'd best thank your Elf-god fer that.

so when the Greenskins grow tired of what the Dwarf capital looks like from the inside (it's Dwarf-made and ought to be pretty uninteresting), they will come to our fair Isle and we will have twice as many to cut down.

Meh, just because Elves are unaffected by 'Right in the Jibblies', and Goblins are afraid of ya for 'smelling funny', doesn't mean them Orcs will find other ways to chop ya down. And if anyone's invading Ulthuan, it's gonna be the Dwarfs! The girly Greenskins can wait in line, we've got grudges to repay!

[Snorri]

"We orcs"? I'll be playing an Elf (who as a race, incidentally, have sent back way more Daemons and actually tamed Dragons which your ilk could never hope to do). But it comes to no surprise that a Dwarf would mistake me for an orc; those thick jungles you wear on your foreheads for no apparent reason are known to severely impair both your vision and your sense of smell.

Dwarfs die on the way from pretty much anything, but in terms of WAR it'll be mostly Waaagh! spells and Squigs. Or if none such are available, you just die from the longer arm of a Choppa. If you knew how to properly wield a spear or shoot a bow however, you might actually have a chance to fell a Greenskin.

"I presumed you to be an orc for such stupid remarks.
I should have smelt your elfish arrogance from a mile away.

Wield a spear? What good is a wooden stick when you have a trusty axe?! Fire a bow?! What planet are you on?! This is the age of powerful rifles and immense firepower, not flimsy weapons which are as equally fragile as your bony arms, elfling.

You truly are foolish , for you simply deny the craft of the dwarfs. But who was it who constructed many of your walls back in the golden age? Walls that still stand to this day and have withstood more attacks than you've tied plaits.

And there will be nothing to dodge, daisy dancer, the dwarfs fight in a solid line of power- If you prance to one side you will simply fall under the swing of another hammer.
You must be a young pointy-ear indeed, for you display a distinct lack of intelligence... less so even than the orcs… but we dwarfs have come to expect that from your kin’s less experianced whelps.

Don’t expect any help when the dark elfs are tearing out your eyes and using your insides as ropes and twine - we'll be celebrating the orc's defeat within our mighty holds.
And you truly are ignorant if you believe your lands to be protected by the mountains - we dwarfs are the masters of the mountains... your little hills are nothing compared to tunnels we have dug in our time. There are many ways to pass through rock slop-breath, but you are naive in the workings of stone, you have yet to learn what we dwarfs have known for thousands of years concerning the earth.

And as for your superiority, hanky waver, we still have your crown within Karaz-a-Karak as a reminder for the last time one of your pathetic kind allowed his arrogance to get the better of him."

:p

[Warfield]

If you knew how to properly wield a spear or shoot a bow however, you might actually have a chance to fell a Greenskin.Those are your words not mine, elfling.

[Grrblt]

Oh aye, you'd best thank your Elf-god fer that.

Meh, just because Elves are unaffected by 'Right in the Jibblies', and Goblins are afraid of ya for 'smelling funny', doesn't mean them Orcs will find other ways to chop ya down. And if anyone's invading Ulthuan, it's gonna be the Dwarfs! The girly Greenskins can wait in line, we've got grudges to repay!

You're right, Orcs probably won't find other ways to chop us down.

Though I must say you've got the wrong idea about Jibblies. I understand that an Orc's knee is more likely to hit you in the head than anything, but Jibblies are actually situated between the legs. You may not know about them; seeing as you are quite fat and can't see them, and also how your legs are so short there's not much room to place any Jibblies of noticable size between them.

"I presumed you to be an orc for such stupid remarks.
I should have smelt your elfish arrogance from a mile away.
Yes, you should have, but you didn't. Not doing what you should is a common Dwarf trait, though.

Wield a spear? What good is a wooden stick when you have a trusty axe?! Fire a bow?! What planet are you on?! This is the age of powerful rifles and immense firepower, not flimsy weapons which are as equally fragile as your bony arms, elfling.
What good is a trusty axe when a wooden stick perforates you before you get into swinging range?

If your rifles are as powerful as you claim, it is truly a wonder how you manage to not deal any decent damage with them. Perhaps you need to install not only extra firepower but also automatic aim in your ranged weaponry?

You truly are foolish indeed, for you simply deny the craft of the dwarfs. But who was it who constructed many of your walls back in the golden age?
I don't doubt the craft of the Dwarfs, only their ability to use it in battle.
Who was it that taught your race to utter anything more than guttural substitutes for swearwords?

And there will be nothing to dodge, daisy dancer, the dwarfs fight in a solid line of power- If you prance to one side you will simply fall under the swing of another hammer.
You must be a young pointy-ear indeed, for you display a distinct lack of intelligence... less so even than the orcs… but we dwarfs have come to expect that from your kin’s less experianced whelps.

Don’t expect any help when the dark elfs are tearing out your eyes and using your insides as ropes and twine - we'll be celebrating the orc's defeat within our mighty holds.
I don't expect to get any help from either Dwarfs or Empire; in fact I don't expect to need any help because the scenario you described is clearly nothing but a figment of your wettest dreams.

Come to think of it, it's probably not a figment of your wettest dreams; it's the entirety of your dreams. I doubt any Dwarf could produce anything more indepth than that.

And as for your superiority, hanky waver, we still have your crown within Karaz-a-Karak as a reminder for the last time one of your pathetic kind allowed his arrogance to get the better of him."

:p
You mean, you have the crown as a reminder of the last time all of your pathetic kind allowed their ignorance to attack the innocent?

The Phoenix King lowered his sword for he saw that the bloodlust of the blind Dwarfs could not be satiated in any other way. But he did not foresee that the villainy of the Dwarfs would reach such immense heights that you would steal the symbol of our kingdom. I suppose you should find solace in the fact that your race is marvelous in at least one way.

[Accipiter]

Another perfectly good thread about the superiority of orcs ruined by dwarfs and elfs slapping each other and pulling each others' hair.

[Snorri]

Here you go again elfling.



Yes, you should have, but you didn't. Not doing what you should is a common Dwarf trait, though.
Dont get into an argument as to which race follows their duty more often than not, elfling backstabber, for you;ll it to be a veyrf ast plummet on your side.


What good is a trusty axe when a wooden stick perforates you before you get into swinging range?
Spears are sticks. Axes are metal. Chop the stick. Stick breaks.
Got that into your thick brain yet, pointy ear?

If your rifles are as powerful as you claim, it is truly a wonder how you manage to not deal any decent damage with them. Perhaps you need to install not only extra firepower but also automatic aim in your ranged weaponry?
Funny, for once again you sink into denile and make foolish claims. Dwarf's marksmanship and ranged power is accurate and deadly... they tend to produce more enemy corpses than your pointy twigs do - that's for sure.
Hit a man with an arrow, and he'll take a while to go down.
Fill a man with lead and he'll fly to the floor and not get back up.

I don't doubt the craft of the Dwarfs, only their ability to use it in battle.
Who was it that taught your race to utter anything more than guttural substitutes for swearwords?
You seem to overplay this one, elfling. Your lot didnt give us the gift of speech and communication; all your kind did was explain the importance of manners when dealing with other nations. Ironically it was something your arrogant elf king forgot all about.

I don't expect to get any help from either Dwarfs or Empire; in fact I don't expect to need any help because the scenario you described is clearly nothing but a figment of your wettest dreams.
Your arrogance will be the death of you, girl. The dark elfs will come and they will slaughter your people... and no matter how large your ego may be - its not going to stop them. You're gonna have to finally learn to swing a sword and wave a stick effectly, because so far you are showing an amzing lack of knowledge conerning warfare AND history - but what can you expect from an elf? They don't honour their past and they don't know snotlings about war.
Whislt you and your sisters are having your little handbag fight; we dwarfs will be causingc arnage amongst the grrenskins.
And the greenskins are a real enemy.


You mean, you have the crown as a reminder of the last time all of your pathetic kind allowed their ignorance to attack the innocent?
HAH!
Learn your history, longshanks.
The dwarfs mistook the darkelfs for the highelfs yes.
The dark elfs were disguesied as the high elfs.
And your stupid fool of a king decided he wouln;t bother telling us of the split in your fickle society.
And that misunderstanding was not not thec ause of the war, hanky kisser. The war began when your king deliberatly refused to cooperate and deliberatly chose to humilate thed warfs in the foulest fashion he could imagine. He knew of the dwarf's honour, and he knew the effect the shaving of a dwarf's beard would have.
And not just anyd wraf, a dwraf representing his kin.

The Phoenix King lowered his sword for he saw that the bloodlust of the blind Dwarfs could not be satiated in any other way. But he did not foresee that the villainy of the Dwarfs would reach such immense heights that you would steal the symbol of our kingdom. I suppose you should find solace in the fact that your race is marvelous in at least one way.
Incorrect.

Your king did not reason with the dwarfs, he explained nothing. It is a well known fact even amongst the elfs that your king was immature and arrogant, which is saying something for elfling standards... the wisest of your kind even admit to this.

The king insulted the dwarfs, sneered and mocked the ambassador, and deliberately provoked him into drawing his axe in outrage.
The king didn't even try and tell us what had happened; he just allowed his ego to get the better of him. Your king decided that he would rather insult an entire nation, than to simply apologise and inform us of your race's split. A wiser leader would have spoken to the dwarfs calmly, as opposed to widening the crack that lead to the avalanche of vengeance.

Your crown was not stolen. It was taken fairly by Gotrek Starbreaker in a duel to the death to avenge the dishonour you had dealt to his kin. The arrogant rumours spread by your holier-than-thou kindred were predictable to say in the least… but it is known that your king fell to his knees in self-pity and begged for his life as Gotrek’s hammer ended the dishonourable life in one final descent.

Your blinded whelp of a ruler knew very well the consequences of shaving a dwarf's beard would have - and not just any dwarf; a dwarf who was representing his whole land and fellows.

Your crown was taken as payment for your king’s foul, treacherous, provocative, immature, and dishonourable act and rest within our keep to this day as a reminder for that period of history. The fact stands that your king could have saved many lives, both dwarf and elf, and maybe of even kept the old alliance alive. But he chose to vent his anger and uncivil attitude towards us, and he paid for it with his life.

I understand why you make up these tales and falsehoods, for you are an arrogant race and refuse to see the truth. You neither age on the outside or on the inside, for you are young and foolish. A wise dwarf accepts defeat and victory and learns from both - which makes him stronger; an elf only see's what he chooses to believe and turns a blind eye to matters which he does not approve of... or understand.

So for all your talk of Calendor being wise and honourable, he was nothing but an immature whelp of a child, still wet behind those pointy ears of his.

[Klitch]

Ahem.


Orc > Dwarf
Orc > Elf
Orc > Dwarf + Elf


Thank you that is all

[Scarlet]

"Orkses are never beaten in battle. If we win we win, if we die we die so it don't count as beat. If we runs for it we don't die neither, so we can always come back for anuvver go, see!"

- anonymous Ork

[Balthemor]

"Orkses are never beaten in battle. If we win we win, if we die we die so it don't count as beat. If we runs for it we don't die neither, so we can always come back for anuvver go, see!"

- anonymous Ork


Sorry correct me if i'm wrong but isn't that a 40 k quote? and off topic for just a second what happens when you get assilimitated into the hive mind?

[Scarlet]

Sorry correct me if i'm wrong but isn't that a 40 k quote? and off topic for just a second what happens when you get assilimitated into the hive mind?

Yeah it is from 40k. was just trying to back up Klitch's statement. Plus c'mon orcs aren't known for the eloquent structure of their arguments. It's rare to be able to cite one as beautifully elegent as this.

[Zappa]

Hitting us "where it hurts" wouldn't really do anything. First off, we're aesexual, no junk. Secondly, Greenskin skin is extrordinarily calice and pain-resistant, even if we did have junk it probably wouldn't hurt too much.

[Krulltak]

Hitting us "where it hurts" wouldn't really do anything. First off, we're aesexual, no junk. Secondly, Greenskin skin is extrordinarily calice and pain-resistant, even if we did have junk it probably wouldn't hurt too much.


Well it seems this thread got kicked right in the jibbles and woken right back up!

Also, the ability is a Black Orc one I am certain.

[Pseudoman]

Hmm looks like im going to have to invest in a sharply spiked codpiece.
The only downsides i can see are walking and when i need to unzip my fly. Other wise its gunna be hunky dory. :D

[Oasis]

ew naughty word:p but nothing a bullet (maybe 2) between the eyes cant solve. If it doesnt we just get a bigger bullet to fill your head with :D

[Snorri]

No nonsense with us dwarfs, we'll just lop their limbs off and be done with it. :p

[Oddeye]

If you think about it, orcs are pretty much the ultimate lifeform (doubly so for the extra stuff added to 40k Orks) and in many ways the most advanced as a people and culture.

[Snorri]

If you really think about it; they're not. ;)

I would in fact say that dwarfs are - as they are hardy, strong, resilient, tough, superb craftsmen, witty inventors, and brave fighters. Unfortunately they have developed breeding problems ;)

Orcs are tough and all, but most advanced?
If you call pooping in your pants advanced... then sure. :p

[Glubtrak]

Heh, silly dwarfs...

On topic:
Orcs is made for fightin' and winnin'.
I mean, we are made to win, how can you beat that?
Also, instead of the old LFG (looking for group) orcs should say WTS (Want to smash).

[Krulltak]

If you think about it, orcs are pretty much the ultimate lifeform (doubly so for the extra stuff added to 40k Orks) and in many ways the most advanced as a people and culture.


Exactly.

"The Orks are the pinnacle of creation. For them, the great struggle is won. They have evolved a society which knows no stress or angst. Who are we to judge them? We Eldar who have failed, or the Humans, on the road to ruin in their turn. And why? Because we sought answers to questions that an Ork wouldn’t even bother to ask. We see a culture that is strong and despise it as crude."
Ulthan the Perverse

[Snorri]

Actually... fair point. :p

And why? Because we sought answers to questions that an Ork wouldn’t even bother to ask.
Brilliant quote..

[Pseudoman]

If you think about it, orcs are pretty much the ultimate lifeform (doubly so for the extra stuff added to 40k Orks) and in many ways the most advanced as a people and culture.

Im no David Attenbourough but wiping your with your hand and sniffing the results doesnt strike me as being an advanced culture. ;)

[Krulltak]

Im no David Attenbourough but wiping your with your hand and sniffing the results doesnt strike me as being an advanced culture. ;)


Read the above. Your human "emotions" are the weakness that does not let you see the genius. Also, orcs don't spend their time wiping their asses, they just crap on their enemies right before killing them.

[Scion]

You see, the irony is that the people who are speaking for the Orcs here would lack, and probably do lack, the capacity to defend the Orcs, expecially if they were one. Define life and culture. Then tell me that one can survive without the other, and I'll show you an Orc "society". Life without emotion is sociopathic. Only someone who WASNT a sociopath would see that form of living an "advancement". Just as only someone who WASNT an Orc would see their society as...a society.

The Orcs are an impressive weapon, a manufactured lifeform capable of self reproduction, basically unstoppable in large numbers which they are capable of achieving quickly, or quicker than any humanoid race at least. That makes them nothing more than an instrument of war, just because they mass in large numbers for a common goal doesnt make them a society, it makes them a parasite. A proverbial hive of destruction.

Plus, as always, I will disregard that quote. As it is Warhammer 40k. Any lifeform capable of space travel in their rickety and salvaged ships is intelligent. I think old Ulthan was just a little tired of Eldar arrogance and Human self-righteousness. The Orcs/Orks are undead, they live to die and kill, and they are nothing but walking meat shields.

"The world without independence, singularity and creativity is the world of the Ork. Long live the Imperium."

[Krulltak]

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[Bazerk]

I admit I do not know much lore.

Orcs dont have society, they just have packs, more or less. Groups who are led by the strongest at the moment. I wouldn't call them a parasite, because they do not fit the biological patterns of a parasite. They're just orcs. They live for combat. They're like a form of virus, and the host is the world. They will fight to annihilate all other life forms in their ecosystem. Granted their numbers are also limited by infighting and such, which u dont see in virus' (afaik) but that's as close as i can see it.

So if you ask: "Which race is best adapted to combat and warfare?" The answer would most likely be "Orcs."
They dont offer much else, like art, or sophisticated humor, but they do fight good. And they're green, and since green is best, orcs are best.

[Black Hammer]

I'll save my response for the battlefield. I'll see all you sorry green fungal sacks out there soon enough, hopefully you'll survive long enough to at least see my back as I walk away from your corpse.

[Krulltak]

I'll save my response for the battlefield. I'll see all you sorry green fungal sacks out there soon enough, hopefully you'll survive long enough to at least see my back as I walk away from your corpse.


You stunties is all talk, cuz ya all know ya kon't beat DA ORCS!

[Scion]

Scion. You being only 15...........can not speak up...........without embarrasing yourself in the process.
Live is about survival, not "emotion" or "culture".
Bloody hell! They are NOT TALKING ABOUT THE FACT THAT ORKS HAVE SPACE TRAVEL, they are talking about how perfectly the species survives to nigh unstoppableness without the time wasted by emotional species like humans, which really drags them down.

You are niave to the point you prove the point of the quote EVERY TIME YOU ARGUE AGAINST IT. Their society works in perfect chaos (which scientifically equates to order) that keeps the species from both destroying themselves completly or from being destroyed by other species.

That is the point of life, survival. Orks pull this off perfectly. But most humans don't realize this and they waste their life with stress and angst, attempting to answer questions which need no answering and waging war on each other for such petty things as money or religion despite the cost to their species' survival.

They may be built for war, but they work with it. They would die without war as well as be unnatural, for every creature wages war.

Humans, with their emotions, NEED life and culture to survive, but orks don't, therefore they have a major advantage. Get it through your thick skull. Go read some science, dang it!

You argue with (AND DON't YOU DARE PULL OUT THE "but it is a made up dude that don't exist" card ON ME, it won't work) an eldar thousands of years old and therefore intelligent enough to understand the truth.

1. Space travel = Intelligence = Survivability.

2. They arent unstoppable, they're inferior. If they were unstoppable, they would have won by now.

3. Chaos = Orc order. Peace = Human order. Orc order = Constant death. Human order = Advancement in science, technology, politics, etc.

4. This is you: "The meaning of life is survival, IN THE WARHAMMER WORLD." Lets look at that. The Orcs need war to survive, they live to survive, nothing else. Can we say the same about the humans? If there was no war, would the humans advance? Yep. Orcs? HAHAHAHA....AHAHAHA.

5. The Orcs would survive after war, yep. Cause they would kill eachother, and they would regrow, and so on and so on. The difference is thats not accomplishing anything, humans surviving without war would, like that science you've been telling me so much about. Humans = Advancement...Orcs = ??? = Superior!

6. Humans + Emotion/Society = way of life. Orcs + death = way of life. Now, lets look above and you can tell me how superior the Orcs are, in the end all they do is die.

7. The quote WAS made by a character made by a human. In fact, the Orcs were created by a human. I know, your head just exploded. The fact of the matter is, you dont become more intelligent or wise when speaking through a character, however old or whatever he or she may be. You look at what makes the Orcs the bad guys and somehow say that it makes them superior.

8. Orcs dont produce spores when enveloped by Chaos Flames. Chaos would win in the end, because humanity is the only thing that can defeat Chaos.

All in all, the moral of the story is: An Orc is superior in a world with constant war and chaos. The meaning of THEIR existence is to survive. Do not, ever ever ever, apply that to my race. Ever. Just because their existence is based on every one of their number being a walking piece of reproduction meat doesnt mean they are better than mine. We feel, and we think, and you'll never be better than that.

Now if you dont reply to this in Orc speak, and if you dont act like those 5 IQ points your character has is all he has, then Im just gonna go ahead and assume you think human culture and society is superior. Because...you're speaking human, and talking about a science which you just refer to as "just science".

First the heretic, then the alien, then the mutant, then the unclean.

[Krulltak]

You just don't get it do you? Everytime you try to argue against it you miss the point the quote is trying to make. I won't even bother anymore, don't waste my time.

[Oddeye]

Orcs ARE superior to the other races in almost every way. They have already won simply because they can never be defeated.

[Scion]

You just don't get it do you? Everytime you try to argue against it you miss the point the quote is trying to make. I won't even bother anymore, don't waste my time.

You're saying that Orcs are superior. Because they lack the capacity to feel and not think beyond their purpose, therefor being better than all others at what they do: destroy. They are unbeatable because whenever they die, a few more pop up. And that they basically are perfect beings, they are happy with what they do and their potential for destruction and domination is virtually unlimited.

You're wrong.

Orcs ARE superior to the other races in almost every way. They have already won simply because they can never be defeated.

Humans can never be defeated. Dwarfs can never be defeated. Chaos can never be defeated. Warhammer is never going to completely destroy a main race. Its a game. Realistically things would go like this:

Humans, Dwarfs and Elfs beat back the Orc and Chaos forces to a stalemate.
Humans become corrupt from the inside, soon humanities greatest leaders are lured to Chaos with promises of power.
Humans join the Chaos forces with their technology and troops, making them the most powerful and populated force in the Warhammer world.
Dwarfs retreat to their mountain stronghold and disown all of humanity, a defeat at the hands of Chaos is almost ensured.
The Elves are the first to be defeated, the Dark Elves take back their lands while Chaos marches on the Dwarf strongholds and prepares for siege warfare.
Orcs and Chaos flank and utterly destroy the Dwarfs, with the former warriors of the Empire knowing Dwarven technologies, strategies and architectural weaknesses.
Orcs start their march on Chaos, the Dark Elves are called out of reserve and a bloody coup starts.
Chaos summons its greater daemon, the Orc forces are decimated, and Chaos quickly corrupts the very land preventing the Orcs from re-creating themselves.
Chaos ambushes the Dark Elves and destroys them.
Chaos wins.
The end.

[Oddeye]

Aside from the fact that, as pointed out, GW would never destroy a race they can make money from (wheres my damn Chaos Dwarves GW!?) your scenario is a little off.

Chaos are just as prone to in fighting as Orcs are, if all humans joint Chaos then whats to say they don't split into deity alignments and go after each other? Although they have banded together for a time to launch campaigns it ultimately never lasts because it is the nature of Chaos to destroy itself.

I find your ideas that all these races would all ally with each other and call each other "out of reserve" pretty funny to be honest. I'm not trying to be rude to you or anything, I can see your side of the arguement too in relation to the arts and humanitaries, the things we Humans take to be signs of advanced cultures.

However you have to ask yourself, does it take anything away from Orc society or impact their effectiveness as a race in anyway not to have wordsmiths spinning yarns about the nature of existance and how hell is other people?

[Doctor Spinner]

Simple math.

Orc < Everything.

Everything > Orc.

They are green, stupid and have nothing for them. Spacetards. They are Fungus based Spacetards.

[Pugslah]

Simple math.

Orc < Everything.

Everything > Orc.

They are green, stupid and have nothing for them. Spacetards. They are Fungus based Spacetards.

wots?

Da Boyz are da bestest!!
Waaaaagh!

[evanjellyman]

havent orcs always been strength in numbers?
and thus lacking in quality. So you could argue that an orc by himself is in fact inferior to other races liek dwarfs, elfs, chaos wahtever

[Krulltak]

havent orcs always been strength in numbers?
and thus lacking in quality. So you could argue that an orc by himself is in fact inferior to other races liek dwarfs, elfs, chaos wahtever


Wrong. This is not your LOTR or DnD. Get that through your thick elf helmet.

Orcs in Warhammer are a true power, a true plague, and it has been stated their destruction is second only to Chaos.

Yes they have large numbers, but do not let that fool you. They are born for war, being strong as hell, tough as nails, and furious as a tornado. They also have their incredibly powerful WAAAAAAAAAAAGH! energy which makes "the red ones go faster" or makes most of their other thoughts (such as the ability to cut through most armors like paper) become true, as well as holding up their primitive equipment from completly falling apart.

They are a war machine and expect nothing but power from them. They have their weaknesses, such as animosity and stupidity, of course, which comes as a given with a Darwinistic society.

This is Warhammer and it has been around for 25 years. It won't be leaving anytime soon and it certainly ain't going to change anytime soon. Learn about it.

http://uk.games-workshop.com/frontpage.aspx None of the main factions are any form of "cannon fodder".

Humans can never be defeated. Dwarfs can never be defeated. Chaos can never be defeated. Warhammer is never going to completely destroy a main race. Its a game. Realistically things would go like this:

Humans, Dwarfs and Elfs beat back the Orc and Chaos forces to a stalemate.
Humans become corrupt from the inside, soon humanities greatest leaders are lured to Chaos with promises of power.
Humans join the Chaos forces with their technology and troops, making them the most powerful and populated force in the Warhammer world.
Dwarfs retreat to their mountain stronghold and disown all of humanity, a defeat at the hands of Chaos is almost ensured.
The Elves are the first to be defeated, the Dark Elves take back their lands while Chaos marches on the Dwarf strongholds and prepares for siege warfare.
Orcs and Chaos flank and utterly destroy the Dwarfs, with the former warriors of the Empire knowing Dwarven technologies, strategies and architectural weaknesses.
Orcs start their march on Chaos, the Dark Elves are called out of reserve and a bloody coup starts.
Chaos summons its greater daemon, the Orc forces are decimated, and Chaos quickly corrupts the very land preventing the Orcs from re-creating themselves.
Chaos ambushes the Dark Elves and destroys them.
Chaos wins.
The end.

First of all, I did not state that "orcs are perfect". I mearly stated that they are better suited to survive than humanity.

Secondly, YES WE KNOW Games Worskhop won't kill anyone off, but realistically:

The Old World nations, dwarfs and elves will eventually be overrun and defeated by Chaos, greenskins, Druchii, and any other destructive force on the planet.

Most of the Old World will problably convert to Chaos, although I doubt the High Elves will turncoat in fear and join the Dark Elves. More likely they will fight to the last, as will the dwarfs of course.

Humans are not the most populous species(unless of course Chaos can find a way to permanently summon their daemons to the living realm), and CHaos never will no matter how many elves, beastmen or humans they have, outnumber Skaven or greenskins, but then again Skaven are Chaos property, they just don't know it.

Greenskins are practically unstoppable. They will never rule the planet, as orcs are just too stupid (and goblins to weak), but their numbers (as well as the Skaven) are so limitless and far spread across the planet that, with their form of reproduction, would take millions of years to wipe them to extinction.

If there was ever an end to Warhammer, it would be a stalemate between the mortals of Chaos, Skaven, and greenskins.

[Pugslah]

I dont know bout normal orcs.

but 1 Ork can create a entirely new Ecosystem on a planet, with his spores. Squigs, gretchins, and Spores that can be cultivated for food.
aslo Creates more Orks.


Orks make the perfect Army. Self Substanceing, The love for a good fight, and are trained for war at Birth. They dont complain, or show fear.

But with that, they will fight eachother if thers no one else to fight.

Correct me if im wrong but Orks dont get tainted by Chao or suffer mutations, stuff like that?
Might be the same with Orcs but GW never gives a yes or no on orcs being Sporeic.

[Krulltak]

I dont know bout normal orcs.

but 1 Ork can create a entirely new Ecosystem on a planet, with his spores. Squigs, gretchins, and Spores that can be cultivated for food.
aslo Creates more Orks.


Orks make the perfect Army. Self Substanceing, The love for a good fight, and are trained for war at Birth. They dont complain, or show fear.

But with that, they will fight eachother if thers no one else to fight.

Correct me if im wrong but Orks dont get tainted by Chao or suffer mutations, stuff like that?
Might be the same with Orcs but GW never gives a yes or no on orcs being Sporeic.

Exactly. We don't know about their reproduction in Fantasy, but I would assume it works the same way as in 40k, how else would they have thier numbers?

[Ashnari Doomsong]

Krulltak...
Orcs are not advanced, intellectual beings. Your quoted Eldar, though not a part of the Fantasy universe, is not called "the perverse" for nothing - his words are in practice: "Ignorance is bliss, and through their ignorance of everything, the Orks have achieved ultimate bliss".
Hardly the mark of an advanced culture. A happy "culture", yes.

As for Orcs, they're bigger and stronger than humans, but they're a lot dumber and they're sluggish as well as untrained. And there are a lot of'em. An army of orcs has sheer brute strength and a lot of numbers, but it does not have discipline.

[Krulltak]

Krulltak...
Orcs are not advanced, intellectual beings. Your quoted Eldar, though not a part of the Fantasy universe, is not called "the perverse" for nothing - his words are in practice: "Ignorance is bliss, and through their ignorance of everything, the Orks have achieved ultimate bliss".
Hardly the mark of an advanced culture. A happy "culture", yes.

As for Orcs, they're bigger and stronger than humans, but they're a lot dumber and they're sluggish as well as untrained. And there are a lot of'em. An army of orcs has sheer brute strength and a lot of numbers, but it does not have discipline.


What, did I not already say that? Or must i repeat myself?

The point I was trying to make is that orcs as a species are a lot better at surviving and avoiding extinction then humans.

Also, on the last part, yes I know, but that does not mean they will lose just from their sluggishness. They last long so fancy moves will get your weak elfy body nowhere, or at least you will be fightin the orc for quite some time, until you cut him up enough or he breaks you in two with a single massive hit, but considering what you said and what I already knew, orcs are not very accurate......

Their animosity often breaks their own hordes apart better than the enemy can damage it.:rolleyes:

[NoneSuch]

However good your culture is , it dosn't matter when you are dead. The race which is best at killing and survivng , reproducing and spreading is superior to the others.

[Krulltak]

However good your culture is , it dosn't matter when you are dead. The race which is best at killing and survivng , reproducing and spreading is superior to the others.

Oh sweet Jesus you finally managed to get my point down in a way the most simple-minded person can understand:p .

[NoneSuch]

It's what Orcs do best

[mouldylock]

orcs are good because:

built to fight, literally, feel no pain, can survive crazy things, can have their arms chopped off, then sewn back on good as new in a few days (even someone else's arm)
no need for education or training- born with all the skills they need(fighting/building/talking)
the more they fight, the bigger and stronger and more powerfull they get
can make things happen with the power of thought ie. guns
love to fight
are absolutly impossible to get rid of, only way would be to burn the entire planet several feet deep into the ground
incorruptable by the powers of chaos
no faffing about, romance, fluffy fairy nancy boy etc (elfs)
GRIMGOR IRONHIDE, defeated Archon the Everchosen by headbutting him in the face:cool:

[Krulltak]

orcs are good because:

built to fight, literally, feel no pain, can survive crazy things, can have their arms chopped off, then sewn back on good as new in a few days (even someone else's arm)
no need for education or training- born with all the skills they need(fighting/building/talking)
the more they fight, the bigger and stronger and more powerfull they get
can make things happen with the power of thought ie. guns
love to fight
are absolutly impossible to get rid of, only way would be to burn the entire planet several feet deep into the ground
incorruptable by the powers of chaos
no faffing about, romance, fluffy fairy nancy boy etc (elfs)
GRIMGOR IRONHIDE, defeated Archon the Everchosen by headbutting him in the face:cool:

Add to that the fact that the greenskins have been more successful in the sieging of major cities of the Empire, dwarfs, and High Elves than Chaos has ever been.

[Oasis]

orks are good for: target practice, trophies(dwarf heads are better but harder to find), making a warm green costume, and using their heads to fill a bunch of bullets inside.

Ah nothing a lot of bullets(or chopping off limbs) can't solve(except meaning of life);-)

btw before you do Krulltakk its sarcasm so dont make a post about this of why this is all wrong and crap like you always do.

[versuvius]

i dont know why this popped up in the dwarf ara but im sure it will end badly for everyone non dwarf *psst* *cannon ready yet?* *good* errrm orcs just stand still for one moment...

[Okri]

Which leads to my next question: Why -is- this discussion taking place here?

[versuvius]

because orcs are very dim..and dont know where they are, even knee deep in angry dwarfs

[Snorri]

If orcs are so great, how come ah'm still breathin?

'Cos yer all a bunch of scrawny little sissies - that's why.
My axe and hammer tell a different story; they say yer bones crack like an Elgi's flimsy neck.

[versuvius]

nah, an elgi's neck would far serpass these flimsy green fungi cannon fodder

[Accipiter]

If orcs are so great, how come ah'm still breathin?

'Cos yer all a bunch of scrawny little sissies - that's why.
My axe and hammer tell a different story; they say yer bones crack like an Elgi's flimsy neck.

Because the game isn't out yet. :(

By the way I really like the way the Greenskin starter area is an area we took over from the dwarfs. Lots of dead dwarfs. :)

[Snorri]

Aye, we'll be correcting that soon enough.

[versuvius]

i look forward to sporadically firing into the orc ranks!

[Krulltak]

Aye, we'll be correcting that soon enough.


In ya dreams, stuntie! You iz all talk and no scrap, like stunties always are, and when da fightin' starts deyz kon't eva prove 'emselves roight on all der fancy talk!

[versuvius]

care to prove a point, gobbo!

[Ashnari Doomsong]

Hold on, Krulltak, you're talking about their survival as a species and their place in natural evolution, not their culture. In fact, I'd argue that culture does matter if you're dead; if you're an orc, there's no-one to remember you. When Grimgor Ironhide finally kicks the bucket, he's not gonna be revered by the rest of the Orcs, because they have no culture - they're just gonna shrug and say, "Sure. What's for breakfast?". On the opposite side, when Thorgrim Grudgebearer does the same, he will be remembered and respected until the end of his species' days - culture is, in a way, a means for people to survive after their deaths(in a manner of speaking).

Also, culture brings a lot of benefits for survival such as tactics, education and stuff; the Empire doesn't have to relearn its tactics with every halfway successful general; and they have survived as a civilisation in the process of retaining a culture.

The point is, Chaos will win eventually. But when it does, it will not be having the most difficulties in wiping out the Orcs - it will be in tearing down the cultures of the Old World and beyond. Already, Imperial technology is outpacing that of all other nations, which will have to adapt to survive. The Orcs, I think, do not posess that ability for adaption. Now which is the weaker species?

[versuvius]

despite that fact, i will have a damned good go at killing every single orc and chaos scum before i croak it! im sure every dwarf would agree

[Accipiter]

despite that fact, i will have a damned good go at killing every single orc and chaos scum before i croak it! im sure every dwarf would agree

*pat* That's the proper dwarfen spirit. You prepare to croak. And we Greenskins will prepare to make sure it happens. :)

[versuvius]

prior to what i said, ill take you with me!!!!!

[Krulltak]

Hold on, Krulltak, you're talking about their survival as a species and their place in natural evolution, not their culture. In fact, I'd argue that culture does matter if you're dead; if you're an orc, there's no-one to remember you. When Grimgor Ironhide finally kicks the bucket, he's not gonna be revered by the rest of the Orcs, because they have no culture - they're just gonna shrug and say, "Sure. What's for breakfast?". On the opposite side, when Thorgrim Grudgebearer does the same, he will be remembered and respected until the end of his species' days - culture is, in a way, a means for people to survive after their deaths(in a manner of speaking).

Also, culture brings a lot of benefits for survival such as tactics, education and stuff; the Empire doesn't have to relearn its tactics with every halfway successful general; and they have survived as a civilisation in the process of retaining a culture.

The point is, Chaos will win eventually. But when it does, it will not be having the most difficulties in wiping out the Orcs - it will be in tearing down the cultures of the Old World and beyond. Already, Imperial technology is outpacing that of all other nations, which will have to adapt to survive. The Orcs, I think, do not posess that ability for adaption. Now which is the weaker species?


Wrong. First of all, orcs do have culture, albeit "crude". The most powerful of warlords from ages past are still remembered today and orcs strive to be like those guys, because they were so deadly and frightening. Orcs do remember the most powerful of their own, AS WELL as the most powerful of the enemy's, because fear for orcs is non existant and is replaced by respect, for the strong and powerful, whether he be Greenskin or he be somthing else, he will be respected..........the kind of respect in which you hope to kill that powerful dude someday and take his place.

The Empire must teach it's tactics to every new generation born, while the orcs do not, as they already know what they need to, as well as reproducing much faster.

Orcs DO poseess the ability to adapt. However, they will only adapt if it serves a martial purpose. Say if, they have to get past an inpenatrable wall with plenty of stunties to smash on the other side. They will not just stand there getting shot, they will find a way around, such as digging under the wall, or stealing some cannons and blowing the wall up(yes they do use looted cannons). So greenskins will adapt, but only if it improves the war-mongering in their Darwinistic culture.

Also, when you consider how corrupted the Old World's governments are, are how so many of thier citizens join Chaos, with the ones that don't being whipped like dogs by their own nation, I doubt they will last long against CHaos for much longer.

Although, Greenskins have had much more success in their rampaging of the Old World than Chaos ever did anyway.

Oh, and, it may be 40k, but the situation in both is similair enough that I can use this quote.

"The Orks plague the galaxy from end to end with their ceaseless warring and strife. They are a race rooted so deeply in war that peace is utterly incomprehensible to them. They cannot be bargained with or bought save with weapons which they will inevitably turn against those who tried to bribe them. I pray with all my faith that some great catastrophe will annihilate them but I fear that ultimately it is they, not we, who will rule this galaxy."
- Imperial High Lord Xanthias



Yeah, the "highly advanced" Imperial, as you call them, admitted to the fact that the orks are indeed ultimatly superior.

[Accipiter]

prior to what i said, ill take you with me!!!!!

Hey, we're not dating. I don't believe in mixed marriages and besides, I have no gender. I'm sorry. It's just not going to work out between us.

[versuvius]

there was an eldar farseer who said only orks are the truly good race. they only fight because they know no better, while all other races kill for personal gain

[Accipiter]

there was an eldar farseer who said only orks are the truly good race. they only fight because they know no better, while all other races kill for personal gain

Yes, we're like widdle angels. Now hold still while I shoot you.

[versuvius]

fat chance squig breath!

[Krulltak]

there was an eldar farseer who said only orks are the truly good race. they only fight because they know no better, while all other races kill for personal gain


Heh, from a scientific point of few that IS true, and I have been saying it all along.

But from that logic you can say Tyranids are the only truely good race, as they only fight to survive just as any animal would.

P.S. Do not dare to argue against scientific statments without scientific knowledge.

[Accipiter]

fat chance squig breath!

You can smell my breath? I TOLD you a minute ago that we're not dating.

[versuvius]

aye, but no one likes big bugs so it doesnt count. and actually the eat to take over. so they ARE evil.

[Krulltak]

aye, but no one likes big bugs so it doesnt count. and actually the eat to take over. so they ARE evil.


They eat to eat.

[versuvius]

they eat to make more tyranids, to eat more, to make more tyranids, to eat more ECT ECT all becuase they want to rule EVERYWHERE to get everything to eat.

[Krulltak]

they eat to make more tyranids, to eat more, to make more tyranids, to eat more ECT ECT all becuase they want to rule EVERYWHERE to get everything to eat.


Is that not what all animals do?

[versuvius]

well you dont...i have made your point invalid!

[Krulltak]

well you dont...i have made your point invalid!


That is because I am a highly advanced, sentinent human, and therefore no longer have to cope with hunting/gathering.

Humans however, DO want to expand and literally take over it all.

[versuvius]

wernt you an orc a moment ago...i see you have massive brain damage. i will take account of this when i am hitting it!

[Krulltak]

wernt you an orc a moment ago...i see you have massive brain damage. i will take account of this when i am hitting it!


What? A moment ago I was still human, talking about a fantasy world.

[versuvius]

when your as far gone as i am it sorta merges into boring and not boring

[Eldrik]

No "Right in the Jibblies" can pierce my impenetrable groin armour!! RAWR!

[versuvius]

see? even he is as far gone as i am!!

[Krulltak]

No "Right in the Jibblies" can pierce my impenetrable groin armour!! RAWR!


Yes it can.

[Eldrik]

I highly doubt its piercing ability.

[versuvius]

i really doubt its ability to hit a stationary mountain

[Krulltak]

If an orc thinks he can pierce your armor, then he can. A large Black Orc will be strong enough to crush your groin armor and thus crush your jibblies.

[Eldrik]

True, If only an Orc had the capacity to think... If a black Orc wants to hit my "Jibblies" then he is going to have to do it with my axe in its forehead Im afraid.

[versuvius]

OR we could give him a few weeks to prepare...

[Krulltak]

True, If only an Orc had the capacity to think... If a black Orc wants to hit my "Jibblies" then he is going to have to do it with my axe in its forehead Im afraid.


The orcs do have the capacity to think. They think about war, and how they are going to brutally slaughter thier next enemy, and how they are going to do in the boss and take over the tribe.

And I doubt you can reach it's forehead.

[versuvius]

heh...we could if i removed its shins first..an exelent idea if i do say so!

[Eldrik]

That's mighty strange as I thought they normally only have the only Orc in the whole tribe with a brain cell to tell them what to do which normally involves petty slaughter of each other, a true sign that Orcs are great thinkers.

Also, an axe can be thrown.

[versuvius]

every single orc ha the WAAAAAAAAAAAGH!...which indiactes one braincell being shared on a sub consious level

[Krulltak]

An axe can be thrown, but can it penatrate both the orc's thick skull as well as armor?

And no, you'ze gotta be a clever git if you'ze wanna stay alive and in charge, and smash some stnutie skullz.

[Eldrik]

When the Axe hits the Orcs face I belief that the impact will leave the Orc dazed on the floor with me just needing to walk up to the Orc and commence the simple act of beheading the green miscreant.

[versuvius]

dont forget we have some nice blackpowder weapons like this *raises musket* plus with the runes, i think that orc wont be able to go for a second run up

[Krulltak]

When the Axe hits the Orcs face I belief that the impact will leave the Orc dazed on the floor with me just needing to walk up to the Orc and commence the simple act of beheading the green miscreant.


Not going to happen. Orcs are so big and tough they will just keep fighting like wildfire with an axe in their head, and orcs don't "daze".

[Eldrik]

Maybe a cannonball would persuade the Orc to become "Dazed".

[versuvius]

or a few grenades

[Eldrik]

Or a bolt from a crossbow...

[versuvius]

or my axe in general

[Eldrik]

With some lovely runes sprinkled on.

[versuvius]

aye...and beer...we need beer!

[Krulltak]

The bigger orcs would just headbutt the cannonball, and the smaller ones can headbutt grenades back at ya, your puny lil toothpicks can't hurt us, we will steal your rune axes as well as your bear.

[versuvius]

yeeeah...sept the grenades go off on impact...and the rune cannon ball would take of the head...no matter how thick skulled

[Krulltak]

yeeeah...sept the grenades go off on impact...and the rune cannon ball would take of the head...no matter how thick skulled


We can fight on without heads, or at least have it stiched back up.

And grenades are just weedy snotlin' punches.

Although, a rune cannonball may just do the trick, but what is that compared to have a massive green foot of energy slamming down and splattering half your army?

[Eldrik]

Our ale is too strong fer ye. It'll make ye run off 'n' cry like them Elfies!

[versuvius]

meh...im sure our rune priests and a few nice rune weapons could unravel that in a hearbeat

[Eldrik]

A green foot of energy is no match for the anvil like formation of a dwarf army!

[versuvius]

no, itd stub its big green energy toe

[Krulltak]

A green foot of energy is no match for the anvil like formation of a dwarf army!


That's what you think, but you dwarfs are always exagerating so most of what you say is false.

[versuvius]

HAH! hark at this un...i dont think hes ever faught a dwarf...never mind an army

[Eldrik]

That's what you think, but you dwarfs are always exagerating so most of what you say is false.

Same with you Orcs, I highly doubt that after recieving a rather hench axe in the face, that an Orc would be a tad inconvenienced in a battle situation making it easier to kill.

[Krulltak]

Same with you Orcs, I highly doubt that after recieving a rather hench axe in the face, that an Orc would be a tad inconvenienced in a battle situation making it easier to kill.


Well, I am quoting canon, but a dwarf army is not going to survive the Foot of Gork.

[versuvius]

course we will! we survived the last chaos incrusion! a big stinky foot is a pisswalk!

[Eldrik]

The odour of the foot is probably more dangerous than its stomping. (Meaning a very weak foot.)

[Krulltak]

course we will! we survived the last chaos incrusion! a big stinky foot is a pisswalk!


Wait, did the last Chaos incursion even bother attacking the dwarfs?

Also, if you can't handle the Greenskins and Skaven taking over your holds all the time, then I dout you can survive the foot.

[versuvius]

WHAT! *splutter* they came up from beneath! *cough* how were we to expect that!!
with you, its a green roaring mass we can see from 100 leagues away

[Krulltak]

WHAT! *splutter* they came up from beneath! *cough* how were we to expect that!!
with you, its a green roaring mass we can see from 100 leagues away


HOW WERE YOU TO EXPECT IT?! Dwarfs life more than half their life underground in mines, fer cryin out loud! And if your warriors are as tough as you boast, then should your Ironbreakers not have held the rat boys off?

Yes, a green roaring mass which according to you is easily defeated, yet you did not defeat it see, and you lost, unless of course the orcs happened to start beating the crap out of each other because "dem uvva boyz got mo' foods dem me".

[versuvius]

we are driving back the skaven scum! and you orcs are the ones losing foot holds once again

[Krulltak]

we are driving back the skaven scum! and you orcs are the ones losing foot holds once again


Not really. We have been an endless horde eroding your civilization away for years and you have not yet become waterproof to the Green Tide...........or giant rats drugged up on magic for that matter.

[versuvius]

*grumble* *pulls out small cask* *drinks* yeh welll...errrr...your green!

[Krulltak]

*grumble* *pulls out small cask* *drinks* yeh welll...errrr...your green!


Which means I'M BEST!

[versuvius]

an you smell *drinks more* and and and...errr...your err...an elf!!

[Bludtusk]

Youz stuntiez fink yer so smartz. But Ol' Bludtusk ben finkin, and 'e knowz sumfin. But tuh tell it, 'eez gonna have tuh make it uh story.
Well, one day Ol' Bludtusk wuz walkin 'ome tuh 'iz towa. Dere wazn much trubble on da way, juz uh few 'o dem stuntiez, but Bludtusk stomped 'em tuh bitz! Dey wuz like 'Oi, you fink youz cin git tro'ere? Oi dun fink so!' and Bludtusk wuz loik 'Ha! youz stuntiez fink youz cin stop 'Ol Bludtusk? Youz all pretty dumb, even fuh stunties!' Soz I stomped em all, and dey wuz screamin and cryin and shtuff. It wuz funny, iv youz wanna knowz.
But back tuh da story. I git tuh me towa, and dere wuz uh 'ole bunch o' stuntiez all ova da place. So oi wuz loik 'Oi! Wut da youz stuntiez fink yer doin'? Diz 'ere iz moi towa! Youz fink youz cin juz in 'ere 'n take me towa? Cuz 'Ol Bludtusk dun fink so!' Dey wuz all loik 'Oi, datz Bludtusk, 'eez pretty stompy oi 'ear. Maybe we should go!' Datz a smurt stuntie. But 'o couz dey wuz moztly dumb unz agin. Soz dey attack 'Ol Bludtusk, 'n oi wuz loik 'Oi! Diz iz moi towa. Youz stuntiez dun git moi towa.' Dey juz kep comin tho', soz oi stompied 'em, and oi choppied 'em, oi even 'eadbutted sum uv dem! But deez 'ere stuntiez wuz dumb. Oi fink Bludtusk muz'da stomped a 'undred uv 'em. Den dere wuz only a few uh dem left, soz oi wuz loik 'Oi! Diz iz moi towa! Youz stuntiez git away frum moi towa!' Dey dun run at firzt, but den oi grabbed one 'o dem and ripped iz arm ov. Da rez uv em got it, 'n dey runned. Da one oi picked up wuz loik 'Bludtusk, youz da strongest! 'N da biggest, 'n da greenest! Fact, oi fink youz da bezt ork eva!' 'n oi wuz loik 'shuddup ya stuntie, youz all talky 'n shtuff. Bludtusk dun loik dat. So shaddup ya dumb stuntie!'
Soz now youz stuntiez git it? We'ez da orkz, 'n we'ez betta den youz all! WAAAGH!!!

[versuvius]

taht never hapened did it...you sure it wansnt some elves yeh saw...

[Bludtusk]

wut'dya fink oi am? uh stuntie? Bludtusk knowz wut 'eez stompin. it wuz a bunch uh stuntiez... in fact, oi fink it wuz yuh muva... or maybe yuh fatha... oi dun knowz, dey bof 'ave beardz.

[versuvius]

looks like this one wants to lose his shins too! my mother or father wouldnt comment or die to a common orc!

[Bludtusk]

Wut? Dat dun make no sense! Youz stuntiez iz juz az dumb az eva.

[Oasis]

eh..this is starting to depress me..*takes out some booze and start drinking*:sad:

[JD_Brett]

Im glad im on their side, Id rather not get kicked in the jibblies

Now only if we could get something like that, but it invovles tentacles.

Chaos Reigns :chaos:


I see it know. A skill exclusive to the Chaos Maraudar.

1. Your hand morphs into a giant tentacle with a mouth on the end.
2. You build up your moral meter.















3. GROIN CHOMP!!!!

>.>
<.<

[versuvius]

i wish yehd stop with th big red lettering..yeh needs BIG GREEN lettering