[US Herald] - Live Game Headstart Dates Announced!

[Garthilk]

From the General News category we have: Live Game Headstart Dates Announced!

WAAAGH!!!

Can't get enough of Open Beta but ready to start your journey in the Age of Reckoning for good?

Starting Sunday, September 14th all Collectors Edition Pre-Order players will be invited to join us as we kick of WAR and officially end Open Beta.

On Tuesday, September 16th all Standard Edition Pre-Order players will join the ranks of Collectors Edition players as we prepare to release WAR to the world next Thursday, September 18th.

Make sure you've used your Open Beta code to download the client from FilePlanet (http://www.fileplanet.com/promotions/warhammeronline/keyauth_login.aspx) and have registered your Head Start code in the Mythic Account Center (http://accounts.eamythic.com) so you don't miss a minute of action!

WAR is Coming - We'll see you there!

Source (http://herald.warhammeronline.com/warherald/NewsArticle.war?id=241)

[Eagle]

Hot damn!


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[Estalian Knight]

2 day headstart?

Hmm.

[JBHarrop]

Yes! I love my CE! :D

[Viewtifuljay]

Girlfriend and I will be up at 5 central with our pot of coffee brewing and ready to go!

[Peter North]

nice. 14th here I come!!

[Rumski]

doesen't work for me as an european.
what now?

[Garthilk]

Sweet!

I can't wait. I'm glad the head start turned out to be meaningful. I cannot wait!

[Ayhan]

*Edited for content*

[funnehman]

*Edited for content*
Why? The people who got the collectors edition put down the extra money/effort to get it, should they get nothing in return?

That's like somebody who never preordered thinking it's unfair that us pre-order people get a head start.

[Geets]

It was suppose to be the 15th for se orders congrats you just lost 3 more orders..

[kyriul]

I'm not angry that I don't get to play the game for another day.
I'm just angry that Mythic caved to the whiny people who just took an extra day from all of their fellow faction members because they have a seriously messed up sense of entitlement, with no love in their heart for the actual collector's edition itself.

You people make me sick.

[Mogstah]

So now I can't play with my friends who're going to be level 20 by the time I get in on the 16th? Cool. I'm sure I'll have just as much fun playing the game by myself, I'm almost positive.

Why? The people who got the collectors edition put down the extra money/effort to get it, should they get nothing in return?

That's like somebody who never preordered thinking it's unfair that us pre-order people get a head start.

Get nothing? Last I recall it was already confirmed what they were getting, now they're just getting more. They paid for their stuff knowing full well what they were getting -- this is just a pleasant surprise for them now.

[Cowboy]

o noes, time to call the waaaaghmbulance

:D

[Siberwulf]

What, is everyone here 11?

You're getting to play 2 days before the people who didn't preorder. CE is playing 2 days before that. You should in theory have people to play with.

Cry more, nubs. Cry more.

(Seriously, this isn't the EU whinefest migrating here, is it?)

[Chaosforce]

NOW we need a server list before hand and we are all set!

[DeathsHorizon]

Yeah, so they change the date big deal, stop overreacting. Things change, lets just enjoy our headstart, weither it is 2 days or 4.

[Chaosforce]

It was suppose to be the 15th for se orders congrats you just lost 3 more orders..

btw where the hell are you getting these dates. the last time we heard about this is Expect 2 days for headstart and CE will be garunteed a day or two more.

God people more then ever, you canceled a game cause you couldnt play 1 day.:confused:

[Kxine]

I'm sorry, but I've got to chalk this up to EA's money hungry milk their consumers for all their worth scheming antics.

If I want to participate in server and guild firsts I have to shell out an extra $35 for those 2 days. I don't want the rest of the crap (yes Crap) that comes with the CE. That's stupid. Stupid!
Looks like I have to take 2 days PTO to catch up instead of just 1. LAME!
1 day was tolerable. It didn't give them that much of an advantage.
2 days? that's quite the gap to catch up on. Especially since they toned down leveling. Now not all head starters are going to be at cap for release, mostly just those with the CE.

<--Pissed.

I was still thinking about buying spore despite the DRM. But this is EA foul-up #2 within a week. I'm not buying spore now.

[Viewtifuljay]

If it means anything, the "official" post was from a GoA member who posted the dates, so many of the NA Folks didn't cross our fingers until we heard something from Mythic.

That's one of the reasons I waited to take off work, until we had an official Press Release or something confirming it.

[kyriul]

Yeah, so they change the date big deal, stop overreacting. Things change, lets just enjoy our headstart, weither it is 2 days or 4.

It really isn't about the amount of time I'm given, or that they're given. It's more the fact that SO many greedy people existed purely on these boards and whined SO hard about only having one additional day in the headstart that they effectively robbed their fellow players (IN A COOPERATIVE RVR GAME) the opportunity to play an extra day.

It's amazing, I don't care what you say. It's also pathetic.

[Ayhan]

It really isn't about the amount of time I'm given, or that they're given. It's more the fact that SO many greedy people existed purely on these boards and whined SO hard about only having one additional day in the headstart that they effectively robbed their fellow players (IN A COOPERATIVE RVR GAME) the opportunity to play an extra day.

It's amazing, I don't care what you say. It's also pathetic.

Agreed x10

[Viewtifuljay]

It really isn't about the amount of time I'm given, or that they're given. It's more the fact that SO many greedy people existed purely on this boards and whined SO hard about only having one additional day in the headstart that they effectively robbed their fellow players (IN A COOPERATIVE RVR GAME) the opportunity to play an extra day.

It's amazing, I don't care what you say. It's also pathetic.

Not to knock down any doors here.. but I really doubt it was because of the players that they pushed an additional day in. Most of these decisions come from the game's producer who isn't going to let a couple dozen people persuade them. I'm sure there are more reasons behind it then that.

[Siberwulf]

I'm sorry, but I've got to chalk this up to EA's money hungry milk their consumers for all their worth scheming antics.

If I want to participate in server and guild firsts I have to shell out an extra $35 for those 2 days. I don't want the rest of the crap (yes Crap) that comes with the CE. That's stupid. Stupid!
Looks like I have to take 2 days PTO to catch up instead of just 1. LAME!
1 day was tolerable. It didn't give them that much of an advantage.
2 days? that's quite the gap to catch up on. Especially since they toned down leveling. Now not all head starters are going to be at cap for release, mostly just those with the CE.

<--Pissed.

I was still thinking about buying spore despite the DRM. But this is EA foul-up #2 within a week. I'm not buying spore now.

Or, you can just enjoy the game, and not take time off a JOB to play it. Geeze.

[Geekcheck]

Thank you Amazon CE...thank you. :D

[AsheMan]

The earliest mention of CE/SE Head Start differences that I could find was from Mark Jacobs on Aug. 6th. Both CE and SE copies were on sale prior to this date, correct? Seems a little unfair to me. I wish it had been made more clear prior to anything going on sale.

[Kxine]

Or, you can just enjoy the game, and not take time off a JOB to play it. Geeze.

I could, but I have a lot of friends during in my guild and I know most of them have the CE. That would mean that while they're doing T2 content, I'll be doing T1. And once I catch up to T2 I'll have a day or so before most of them hit T3 content, and then once again I'm left behind.

I play MMO's because I like playing with people. Without catching up I'll be left behind and be stuck just listening to my friends instead of actually playing with them.

[turbulence]

That kind of sucks, I took time off of the 15th lol :p

[Kxine]

Or, you can just enjoy the game, and not take time off a JOB to play it. Geeze.

I'll also throw out there that I'm an achiever. Part of what makes the game fun for me is getting things done. The thought of being among some of the server and world firsts for keep taking and dungeon completion excites me. This really hurts the achiever gamer types out there.

[absynth]

Damn how did i get convinced SE head start was 15th? ( http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/43071) I'm not gonna say I
m pissed off but that Monday was the only day of the 4 headstart days that i woulda been able to play (even if i had CE which i don't) so kinda sucks to me me i guess :-( QQ whaaaah

[Baal]

Aw man, I'm going out of town for a week on the 18th and was hoping to get at least a few quality evenings in beforehand.. /sigh

[Viewtifuljay]

I'll also throw out there that I'm an achiever. Part of what makes the game fun for me is getting things done. The thought of being among some of the server and world firsts for keep taking and dungeon completion excites me. This really hurts the achiever gamer types out there.

I wouldn't worry too much. A lot of new servers will be popping up as more people come into the game. There's no saying that you can't hop into a new server for server firsts.

And what I tell everyone who wants to do "world firsts", 99% of the time if you can't dedicate an entire week off of a game at launch, your not going to be anywhere near world first.

[Minerva]

I'm happy for the CE people :) I'll be seeing you all in-game on the 16th! :D

People need to stop getting so riled up over something as small as this. :(

[SKYeXile]

umm times would be nice.

[Viewtifuljay]

umm times would be nice.

7am EDT (Think I typed that right).

It's on the official pre-order pages now as well :)

[Uggluk]

Ah, that kinda sucks, as I took the 15th-18th off of work. I reckon' I can use that 15th as butter-up time to the fiancee, so she'll let me play all day on the 16th. :D

No big loss for me, as most of my guildies got the SE, but I can see where it might suck for some.

[blackslime]

They only announced the 15th for SE customers in Europe. A lot of people just assumed that was the same for the US.

Anyway, it is just a day. See you there! 8)

[Rockfang]

If the Headstart code is entered, should it say "head start" in the account center? Currently mine only says closed beta.

[absynth]

So SE head start IS the 15th for EU people?

[Crazyeye]

So how about EA and wanting all the money they can get, let people pay the extra price equivalent to CE price and get the headstart? I never buy CE versions of games cause I don't care about art books and maybe a soundtrack cd or some crap and having a pc game box that awkwardly shaped. I will gladly pay the extra fee for the extra start. Come on EA, you give the option to do anything your games with a little payment for them. Stay true to yourself!

[Uggluk]

They only announced the 15th for SE customers in Europe. A lot of people just assumed that was the same for the US.

Anyway, it is just a day. See you there! 8)

I'm not sure about other places but, at my work, we have to have our vacation times in at least 14 days prior to our days off. :) I took a bet, and lost out a bit. Not to bad, since its only one day difference. :) Better than having no days off for it, I reckon'!

[DarkPaladin]

So because I own a CE means Im a crybaby, whinner? WHAT??? Recheck your posts, who's crying? The only CE people whinning are EU players, and for good reason. People get over yourselves. Good, cancel your orders. If this is how your going to act over HS, well GOOD RIDDENS!!!!

What is happening to this forum....

[absynth]

well i guess the EU guys dese4rve the extra day being as the got a royal screwing on the open beta.

[SPINAL]

It was suppose to be the 15th for se orders congrats you just lost 3 more orders..

Cut the BS, seriously. You know your still going to buy the game and play.

[absynth]

Cut the BS, seriously. You know your still going to buy the game and play.
shhh dont call him out on it jeez, maybe EA will change their mind over missing out on his 3 orders!....

[Red Asphalt]

It would have been seriously nice to, you know, announce this schedule more than seven days out.

I have to guess what happened is they looked at PW+ and open beta and saw that even after three days of PW+ well over 90% of the population was still in tier 1. So to smooth out the population a bit they made the SE headstart 2 days instead of 3, to make three waves (CE/SE/retail) with 2-day spacing instead if 1/3-day spacing.

[DogOfWar]

I'll also throw out there that I'm an achiever. Part of what makes the game fun for me is getting things done. The thought of being among some of the server and world firsts for keep taking and dungeon completion excites me. This really hurts the achiever gamer types out there.

And you know who is going to remember who did what years from now after the next big game comes along? Nobody.

Anything and everything you do in an MMO is temporary. All the time you spent leveling a character or getting that one piece of gear is going to be forgotten or wiped clean in a relatively short period of time.

It's a video game. It's an extra day. Get over it. If you're really an achiever, video game events is one of the last things you should obsess over.

[Crazyeye]

We make you sick? So because I own a CE means Im a crybaby, whinner? WHAT??? Recheck your posts, who's crying? The only CE people whinning are EU players, and for good reason. People get over yourselves. Good, cancel your orders. If this is how your going to act over HS, well GOOD RIDDENS!!!!

What is happening to this forum....

Come on now, you know MMOs are a legal form of crack. Watch when servers get taken down for a day here and there for some emergency fixes, watch the forums explode with hatred. The day difference pisses me off too, but not canceling or casting any hatred on CE owners.

[Kxine]

And you know who is going to remember who did what years from now after the next big game comes along? Nobody.

Anything and everything you do in an MMO is temporary. All the time you spent leveling a character or getting that one piece of gear is going to be forgotten or wiped clean in a relatively short period of time.

It's a video game. It's an extra day. Get over it. If you're really an achiever, video game events is one of the last things you should obsess over.

And that's where you're wrong. I'll remember what I did. I'll remember the time I spent. And I'll definitely remember if I end up having to level a bunch with PuGs instead of friends because they got the CE and I got the SE.

[Dozi]

It was suppose to be the 15th for se orders congrats you just lost 3 more orders..

BWAHAHAHAHA ..... yeaahhh no they didn't.

[hotsauceLUCY]

So thats 4AM for us West Coast? (pacific)

[Burli]

I'm happy for the CE people :) I'll be seeing you all in-game on the 16th! :D

People need to stop getting so riled up over something as small as this. :(

You gave me hope .

[Burli]

Make sure you've used your Open Beta code to download the client from FilePlanet (http://www.fileplanet.com/promotions/warhammeronline/keyauth_login.aspx) and have registered your Head Start code in the Mythic Account Center (http://accounts.eamythic.com/) so you don't miss a minute of action!
Source (http://herald.warhammeronline.com/warherald/NewsArticle.war?id=241)

I have a question for the Devs *cross fingers for a anwser * Is the closed beta version of the game ( Transform as a Open beta version ) is good enought for the game headstart ? thank you in advance .

[burfo]

I have a question for the Devs *cross fingers for a anwser * Is the closed beta version of the game ( Transform as a Open beta version ) is good enought for the game headstart ? thank you in advance .
Yeah; you will be able to patch your client that you have now.

[Satanous]

stop crying over the dates, you get to play the GAME be happy that your not a starving kid in some african country being preyed on by flys and maggots, there are alot worse things then a few days difference, so live with it and if you "friends" are a higher level and you have to play alone because of that you need to check your friendship

[kratox]

I'm sorry, but I've got to chalk this up to EA's money hungry milk their consumers for all their worth scheming antics.

If I want to participate in server and guild firsts I have to shell out an extra $35 for those 2 days. I don't want the rest of the crap (yes Crap) that comes with the CE. That's stupid. Stupid!
Looks like I have to take 2 days PTO to catch up instead of just 1. LAME!
1 day was tolerable. It didn't give them that much of an advantage.
2 days? that's quite the gap to catch up on. Especially since they toned down leveling. Now not all head starters are going to be at cap for release, mostly just those with the CE.

<--Pissed.

I was still thinking about buying spore despite the DRM. But this is EA foul-up #2 within a week. I'm not buying spore now.

How are people going to get to the cap in 4 days? Even playing 24 hours a day I don't see how that is possible, given what I have seen so far... unless the leveling curve is totally different from other MMOs.

[Viggo Vickers]

Little disappointed about the gap between CE and SE, as I was predicting at 1 day max. But I know a lot of CE purchasers were upset SE got OB and HS when they paid more (I'd be CE myself if I could find a copy), so can't complain I guess. Guess I'll just have to grind a little harder and RvR a little rougher :twisted:

[LPetersson]

Congrats to all you NA peeps.
Here in Europe we'll most likely have to wait several days before the official start before GOA sort their sh*t out and let us log on...

[Flashy]

SE PuGs will be ok. I doubt there will be many unskilled players who preordered. PuGing Tier 1 after regular launch will be rougher.

[Syri]

Ok... admittedly I'm bummed that we had a day taken away from our head-start. But at least we get one; Originally wasn't it only the CE preorders that were to have one at all?

I'll be more than a little behind some folk, but that'll just widen the gap a bit so that the lower-tiers are hopefully slightly less crowded.

I can wait an extra day. I don't want to, but I can.

At least the wait'll be over soon!


Edit: Besides... at least we know our head start will go off as planned. Got my fingers crossed for you EU folks! :)

[Drav3n]

Does the 14th mean 12:00 AM EST? :mrgreen:

Server list plus specific time equals thanks.

[Jafsasg]

Why? The people who got the collectors edition put down the extra money/effort to get it, should they get nothing in return?

That's like somebody who never preordered thinking it's unfair that us pre-order people get a head start.

My guess is that the short head-start for regular editions is solely to placate the complaints from the CE people. i.e., mythic could not figure out a way to give something of real value to the CE people so they had to take away something from someone else to increase the relative value of the CE edition.

Analogy: I complain that I am not getting enough value from my first class ticket on an airplane so the flight attendant goes to the regular section and takes away a drink and headsets from the regular people and comes back and says 'Do you feel better now?'. Huh? Noooo! Taking away something from somebody else does not make me feel better.

[kaiserluger]

Lvl 11 and waiting for you in Nordenwatch

[arapas]

My guess is that the short head-start for regular editions is solely to placate the complaints from the CE people. i.e., mythic could not figure out a way to give something of real value to the CE people so they had to take away something from someone else to increase the relative value of the CE edition.

Analogy: I complain that I am not getting enough value from my first class ticket on an airplane so the flight attendant goes to the regular section and takes away a drink and headsets from the regular people and comes back and says 'Do you feel better now?'. Huh? Noooo! Taking away something from somebody else does not make me feel better.

QFE

GG Mythic.

[PROTEST the hero]

Be happy that you get to play early at all ?

Honestly, if one day makes such a huge difference, you need to re-evaluate your life :rolleyes:

[SirAether]

I've come to the conclusion that Mark Jacobs himself could deliver your game, a new PC from 10 years in the future, an account that starts every character maxed out, no lag, and 20 of the hottest cheerleaders (gender of your choice) to cheer you on as you play WAR and you would still have people complain.

My whole point is why can't people be happy with what they got.

[postmodernchris]

I have to say I don't like being lied to! I hope this isn't a pattern of things to come.

[postmodernchris]

My whole point is why can't people be happy with what they got.
well it is like this if i buy a car and they tell me me it has 40k miles, well it better have just 40k miles. When i bought this game i was told i got 3 days of headstart so i was lied to so it is my right to be upset.

[Thalui]

well it is like this if i buy a car and they tell me me it has 40k miles, well it better have just 40k miles. When i bought this game i was told i got 3 days of headstart so i was lied to so it is my right to be upset.

Sorry, but when did they ever explicitly state that you SE would get a 3 day head start. I think the post that you are thinking of was from a person at GOA and not Mythic. If you can find me a link were MYTHIC told you that you would get a 3 day head start then I will stand corrected.

[Kiloria]

Be happy that you get to play early at all ?

Honestly, if one day makes such a huge difference, you need to re-evaluate your life :rolleyes:

Exactly! Hush little children, or you won't be getting your bottles and you'll be forced to take an extra nap. This is a game, not a race to see who can power level the fastest. Enjoy it as it evolves. If you have friends behind you, then slow the leveling down for them to catch up. Form guilds and keep recruiting to have groups at all levels.

You whiners will be in about nerfing this and changing that before too long anyway, and will forget all about a freakin extra day. If you think life isn't fair, then deal with it or drop out. Enjoy the game and stop the whining. Mythic has done a great job so far, and they will continue to make improvements as we go forward. They will make mistakes, and they will make adjustments. That's a part of life, virtual or real. Life is not always fair. It's how mature you are in dealing with things that you don't like that shows your true character. The time that we've all been waiting for is nearly upon us and I'm so very psyched. I'M READY FOR WAR!!!!

Enjoy the game!! :p

OK whiners, you can start dishing on me now. Don't care. ;)

[Dreath]

First off I will say I don't understand why some of the CE people got upset in the first place. I have ordered the CE myself (for the TT mini, artbook, and graphic novel) and didn't see a problem with the SE getting into the headstart. In fact I would say if you bought the CE for just the Head Start that was a good waste of $40.

I don't like the fact that the SE preorders "lose" a day from their head start. However I don't see what is with all the people wanting to do all the firsts. I mean it is cool to be the first of something but the thing I like about the head start is that I get to play the game early...

EDIT: BTW I am really enjoying beta. The problem I have with it is there aren't enough people in the open RvR areas...I won't be able to wait til all the SE preorders get into the head start.

[Trueepower]

So how does File planet make your down loads faster? Do you have to download some where else? Or does it automatically make it faster?

[Jafsasg]

Exactly! Hush little children, or you won't be getting your bottles and you'll be forced to take an extra nap. This is a game, not a race to see who can power level the fastest. Enjoy it as it evolves. If you have friends behind you, then slow the leveling down for them to catch up. Form guilds and keep recruiting to have groups at all levels.

You whiners will be in about nerfing this and changing that before too long anyway, and will forget all about a freakin extra day. If you think life isn't fair, then deal with it or drop out. Enjoy the game and stop the whining. Mythic has done a great job so far, and they will continue to make improvements as we go forward. They will make mistakes, and they will make adjustments. That's a part of life, virtual or real. Life is not always fair. It's how mature you are in dealing with things that you don't like that shows your true character. The time that we've all been waiting for is nearly upon us and I'm so very psyched. I'M READY FOR WAR!!!!

Enjoy the game!! :p

OK whiners, you can start dishing on me now. Don't care. ;)

If the only response to a well reasoned argument is to call the person or persons 'whiners' then you have essentially conceded the point as you have no point other than to give someone a negative label. Game apologists always amuse me and complaining about complaining is especially ludicrous.

My point stands: "My guess is that the short head-start for regular editions is solely to placate the complaints from the CE people. i.e., mythic could not figure out a way to give something of real value to the CE people so they had to take away something from someone else to increase the relative value of the CE edition."

Notice the lack of whining, nashing of teeth, or hyberbole.

BTW: I do agree that complaining can be taken too far(especially about class balance)......but I have not seen that in this thread.

p.s. When does my computer from the future arrive? ;) Smiley face provided to prove what a relaxed and cool guy I am.

[Tinuva]

What I find entertaining is that all the people saying to stop whining are CE people. It's easy to point fingers when you have the goods all ready. Sux for me because I dont have a free day on tuesday as I did on monday. All the CE people will be t2 and some t3 before the se's even get into the game. 1 day would have been plenty to make a small gap in tiers, giving CE 4 full days now there will probably not be level 40's with the xp shrink down in OB but some people will be close.

On another note, I am really starting to dislike these headstart programs because it creates an unfair advantage for world first discoveries. I'm not sure if there will be actual world first titles for anything in WAR but it kind of makes these accomplishments nil when you get 4 days to play before anyone else.

[temuchin]

Exactly! Hush little children, or you won't be getting your bottles and you'll be forced to take an extra nap. This is a game, not a race to see who can power level the fastest.

Awwwww, mom! Cant I stay up another hour mom!!! Anyways, instead of posting with the kids shouldn't you be flirting in Elvish on vent with some 21 year old virgin and making excuses about your keybinds as to why your middle aged woman's reactions cant keep up on healing and your group keeps wipin

Not to impede the pollyanna Mythic butt-kissing on this thread but this is a classic bait-and-switch and has 0 to do with anything except marketing pure and simple.

A good number of the people who pre-ordered in the days before open beta did so SOLELY due to the widely publicized impression given by Mythic and its retailing partners that Open Beta and Head Start meant early adopters would play the game from the 7th until launch. Some noob is going to jump in here with irrelevancies about the star and the moon and "being lucky" to have the "opportunity to test" and other crap that doesn't have arse to do with elbows but dealing in reality, extra game time is the nuts and bolts of why most people pre-ordered, and Mythic definitely knew that and encouraged that perception. They purposefully omitted any concept that there would be 2 head starts or separate treatment for CE folks... hell the casual dude who walked into Best Buy or Target and saw the pre-order offer probably had no clue that CE even existed. Cannot get more textbook bait and switch. If this wasn't an MMO where crappy service and out-from-under-the-rug tactics are common people would be pissed about being purposefully mislead and manipulated

Is this a CHANGE like the one nerd posted? LOL by definition no. Change by definition means Mythic is doing something they didn't intend to do all along. People are simply stupid and Mythic has always been unabashedly about money. What other company makes you pay (prepay actually) to be in "Open" Beta??? I for one realized immediately when they started throwing around "head start" for normal pre-orders which obviously screws CE people that they were going to probably screw normal preorders as well down the line. It was pretty obvious that they were baiting both CE customers and normal pre-orders with anything they could say to just pump up the numbers before launch. I actually thought maybe they'd keep the beta going for everyone so everyone could play but set up special servers for CE a day early but looks like they're not even bothering to go that far.

They already have the hardware in place and Open Beta isn't even 100,000 people at this point. They're simply shutting off pre-orders for no reason other than to spite them for CEs knowing that MMO nerds are desperate enough to forget all about it once they're in game on the 16th playing, no matter how they've been mislead or manipulated. NOT A BIG DEAL. Annoying yes if you pre-ordered not knowing anything but if you've dealt with MMOs, it's a totally expected move by Mythic. ARE YOU BEING SCREWED? Yes but if you dont like it CANCEL YOUR ORDER. Hehe, let's see how many nerds have the balls to just not play the game because they've been screwed over... most dont have the lives to handle it... they'll take the more emotionally convenient out of making excuses for Mythic and convincing themselves they haven't been OWNED simply so they can play their precious game.

[Chickenlips]

I'll also throw out there that I'm an achiever. Part of what makes the game fun for me is getting things done. The thought of being among some of the server and world firsts for keep taking and dungeon completion excites me. This really hurts the achiever gamer types out there.

Well, guess you should have bought the CE then. If you wanted to be such an achiever then you should have gone all the way.........

All this whining is pointless. It never ceases to amaze me how something good gets done for people and they still find something to whine about. sheesh.....

Mythic didn't have to have ANY head start, my god, stop the whining and enjoy what you get.

[temuchin]

On another note, I am really starting to dislike these headstart programs because it creates an unfair advantage for world first discoveries. I'm not sure if there will be actual world first titles for anything in WAR but it kind of makes these accomplishments nil when you get 4 days to play before anyone else.

Yeah I agree with you there. Head start of any kind is lame from every possible gameplay point of view. It's 100% entirely absolutely a Marketing driven concept and no dev or GM (say in a MUD or private server) would ever want that.

First of all it diminishes the experience of everyone who isn't head start. The first day of a game and of a server is a special experience, you're there with thousands of like-minded people experiencing it all together which everyone will remember for the rest of their time playing the game. Knowing that whatever you do and your realm does someone else has done it before... and not by ingenuity, skill or dedication but simply because they paid an extra 20 bucks diminishes that experience for everyone. Great way for developers to introduce the masses to their game on their first day...

Having played so many of these games and seen so many different realms, head start actually screws the head starters as well... experiencing the content with everyone else, forging those bonds with people in your realm creates much of the foundation for interaction later in the game. Head starters might get their level a day or 2 before someone else but they've missed all of that and whatever they do accomplish is tainted by the fact that they basically "cheated" in that they didn't have a level playing field

People need to understand that Head Start (and manipulating dates for head start and screwing this group or other in the name of Head Start) has nothing to do with anything except $$$. It's really impossible to justify in any manner from a gameplay perspective. That's why LOL@ people making grandiose moralistic remarks defending Mythic... LMAO. It's about money dude.

[Sifr]

A bunch of name-calling

I'm amused that you're here, on a videogame forum, upset over a videogame launch, calling other people nerds.


It's clear that you're upset; but most of what you use as justification for being upset are assumptions you made, rather than statements of fact from Mythic. Nobody said Head Start would begin on the 7th.

[temuchin]

Mythic didn't have to have ANY head start, my god, stop the whining and enjoy what you get.

Where is your elbow?

Where is your butt?

Do you know your butt from your elbow?

Mythic absolutely did need to have a head start, that's how they got another 10 thousand+ preorders for their game.

Why dont you stop whining about whining and get a clue about how the world works? Your post doesn't even make any sense to me, are you saying that "Mythic didn't have to have ANY head start" because even if they advertised it, nerds like you would be okay with them not having it?

Just try to focus and find the logic part of your brain. They ABSOLUTELY did need to have a head start, because it was a marketing tool for more pre-orders. And as a marketing tool for manipulating customers it did its job fantastically so not only did Mythic HAVE to have it, they are superbly glad they have had it. What you're TRYING to say is that they could have technically made head start an hour long and fulfill their contractual obligations, so be happy you have the 2 days or whatever. That's what you're trying to say... it's coming out wrong when you're typing though

[temuchin]

I'm amused that you're here, on a videogame forum, upset over a videogame launch, calling other people nerds.


It's clear that you're upset; but most of what you use as justification for being upset are assumptions you made, rather than statements of fact from Mythic. Nobody said Head Start would begin on the 7th.

I'm amused that a nerd would be offended at being called a nerd. You're on a forum at 12:24 in the AM talking about a game (not even playing the game but sitting around talking about a game that isn't even released)... yet OMG UMBRAGE at being rightly identified as a nerd. Face it either you're a nerd or you're interested specifically in the issue of the dollars and cents of Mythic's bait and switch. And from your comments you aren't the latter...

"Nobody said Head Start would begin on the 7th." actually EVERYONE explicitly knew Head Start would NOT being on the 7th, as that's when Open Beta was advertised to begin and every offer explicitly detailed Head Start and Open Beta as separate events. Ergo Head Start wouldn't start on the 7th now would it?

I'm not sure why you even included that in your post. Why not post "Nobody said WAR would be free to play..." okay random statement, correct in syntax but headscratch why add that random comment that doesn't have anything to do with anything in the thread

[Sifr]

I'm amused that a nerd would be offended at being called a nerd. You're on a forum at 12:24 in the AM talking about a game (not even playing the game but sitting around talking about a game that isn't even released)... yet OMG UMBRAGE at being rightly identified as a nerd. Face it either you're a nerd or you're interested specifically in the issue of the dollars and cents of Mythic's bait and switch. And from your comments you aren't the latter...

"Nobody said Head Start would begin on the 7th." actually EVERYONE explicitly knew Head Start would NOT being on the 7th, as that's when Open Beta was advertised to begin and every offer explicitly detailed Head Start and Open Beta as separate events. Ergo Head Start wouldn't start on the 7th now would it?

I'm not sure why you even included that in your post. Why not post "Nobody said WAR would be free to play..." okay random statement, correct in syntax but headscratch why add that random comment that doesn't have anything to do with anything in the thread


1. it's 9:30 here.

2. You stated that everyone assumed head start would begin on the 7th.

A good number of the people who pre-ordered in the days before open beta did so SOLELY due to the widely publicized impression given by Mythic and its retailing partners that Open Beta and Head Start meant early adopters would play the game from the 7th until launch.


...and then you go on to deride some hypothetical poster who was going to retort that being in the beta was good, as though being in the beta wasn't what you wanted to start on the 7th.

3. You've been fairly derogatory in all your posts. Please learn to converse without being insulting.

[Idioteq]

So now I can't play with my friends who're going to be level 20 by the time I get in on the 16th? Cool. I'm sure I'll have just as much fun playing the game by myself, I'm almost positive.



Get nothing? Last I recall it was already confirmed what they were getting, now they're just getting more. They paid for their stuff knowing full well what they were getting -- this is just a pleasant surprise for them now.

I dont know if anyone knew this but CE preorder were the only people supposed to be in any of the beta's or the headstart. not until recently did they add you regular fr33ks. One thing is that they want to spread out the amount of people making characters and probably thought that 1 day wasent enough..and for even those who will play 2 hours a day u can hit like 8-10 in those 2 days so who cares. acting as if not getting into the game until the RELEASE DATE is the wworst thing to ever happen.

lastly, the only thing i can agree on is not the fact that you cant level with friends because if i had someone in your position, i would wait a little bit but if the servers fill up on one side i dont understand what there going to do.

[postmodernchris]

I have to say I don't understand Mythic's logic, give into the 60,000 CE players and upset the majority of people that have the normal SE. Even if Mythic didn't say it all the stores say that you got 3 days they should honor the mass mistake then.

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_majority)

[Idioteq]

I'm amused that a nerd would be offended at being called a nerd. You're on a forum at 12:24 in the AM talking about a game (not even playing the game but sitting around talking about a game that isn't even released)... yet OMG UMBRAGE at being rightly identified as a nerd. Face it either you're a nerd or you're interested specifically in the issue of the dollars and cents of Mythic's bait and switch. And from your comments you aren't the latter...

"Nobody said Head Start would begin on the 7th." actually EVERYONE explicitly knew Head Start would NOT being on the 7th, as that's when Open Beta was advertised to begin and every offer explicitly detailed Head Start and Open Beta as separate events. Ergo Head Start wouldn't start on the 7th now would it?

I'm not sure why you even included that in your post. Why not post "Nobody said WAR would be free to play..." okay random statement, correct in syntax but headscratch why add that random comment that doesn't have anything to do with anything in the thread


Shutup now

[Breemy]

Or, you can just enjoy the game, and not take time off a JOB to play it. Geeze.

Oh i'm gonna enjoy it, but I still took time off my job to play it. :-D I know, I'm a nerd!!!

[Ravenlaw]

Make sure you've used your Open Beta code to download the client from FilePlanet (http://www.fileplanet.com/promotions/warhammeronline/keyauth_login.aspx)

I thought there'd be a separate download for the head start... damn it.

[Sparklehorse]

People are really upset about this? What's the problem here? A very large number of those collectors edition were pre-ordered MONTHS ago. The majority of them I would wager. That was back before the game was showing as much promise as it is now.

A large number of those folks have followed the game for years, literally. They faithfully plunked down nearly TWICE as much money for the collectors edition and remained faithful through several changes in the game. Not small changes mind you, huge changes that sent many scurrying for the hills. The majority of the CE people held steadfast, completely believing in Mythic and their promise. Most of them sat quietly by and didn't say a word.

The SE program is a fairly new program. The majority of people who pre- ordered the SE did so in the past 30 DAYS. There is nothing inherently wrong with this so don't accuse me of making a judgment. I'm just trying to illustrate the difference and to give a little perspective on the issue at hand. Sure, it's reasonable to be upset that you are going to get one less day than you THOUGHT you were going to get but in reality, it was just an assumption wasn't it? No need to blow a gasket over it. It's 24 hours.

So Mythic wants to give that loyal base an extra 24 hours and as well they should. They aren't taking anything away from anybody. We are all lucky to have been able to get access to the gameplay that we have gotten. All this sense of entitlement is disconcerting.

[Almeuit]

They only announced the 15th for SE customers in Europe. A lot of people just assumed that was the same for the US.

Anyway, it is just a day. See you there! 8)

Alot of people don't realize this sadly :(.

Mythic had not mentioned they would do a SE pre-order when the CE was around. So all you people who didn't get the CE obviously didn't care that much. Once the SE was out and you would get a HS you run and get it (which is fine) but then they annouce the days and since you only get 2 days you cry? Should of spent more on the CE for the extra days... since you didn't? Then you don't get it!

Everyone saying "ZOMGZ IT WAS THE 15TH LOL CANCEL" .... Go cry me a river honestly. That was for EU.

IS ur pre-order EU? If not then the 15th wasn't your date! Its the 16th... should of waited for the update on the herald. Don't hold the EU post to Mythic. GOA And Mythic can do their own things and Mythic never confirmed or denied the dates of the HS. They made us wait for the post ... you didn't so you got ur hopes up. Oh well.



/rant off

On a more positive note .... I can't wait to start the 14th :).

[ragecell]

i was wondering whats the go with living in Australia i bought the collector's edition so what time will i be able to get in.

In Australian times if anyone no's

[Logan Casius]

9pm Sydney time on Sunday night - adjust depending on where you are relative to that.

[ragecell]

thank you very much mate

[Grumble]

Damn how did i get convinced SE head start was 15th? ( http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/43071) I'm not gonna say I
m pissed off but that Monday was the only day of the 4 headstart days that i woulda been able to play (even if i had CE which i don't) so kinda sucks to me me i guess :-( QQ whaaaah

Hmm and thats the EURO date. GOA. Any questions?

Nobody from Mythic ever came out and said the SE Headstart was on the 15th. Everyone who is complaining just assumed. Its hilarious how so many people get all upset that a RUMOR didnt come true. If the rumor had been that you got only a days headstart from the regular live game, youd be thrilled that you got 2 days. Its all about expectations.

Why the big deal, anyways? The CE are going to be in ahead of you, you still have to wait to get the names you want (1 day vs 2 makes no diff) and a whole single day behind the CE isnt going to ruin or change your gaming experience in any way.

In about a week its all gonna be even in any case. And dont complain about level disparity. You are ALWAYS gonna find folks higher level then you in any given tier until you cap out, its the nature of the game.

[Grumble]

And that's where you're wrong. I'll remember what I did. I'll remember the time I spent. And I'll definitely remember if I end up having to level a bunch with PuGs instead of friends because they got the CE and I got the SE.

Gotta say one more thing. You are making the assumption that all of your friends are going to be impossibly far away from you level-wise by having an extra day.

You are completely wrong, and I assume this is because you havent played a great deal of time in the game, if at all. Its an understandable mistake.

Yes, leveling can be fast, but it has been my experience (from months in the beta with MANY wipes) that the first couple of days is spent getting a feel for the game, checking out zones, PQs, quests, and of course engaging in rvr. Open field RvR, in particular, is a great time sink and does NOT push you up rapidly in RR/Level. A mix of all the types is what kicks you up fast.

Unless your special group of friends are very experienced and plan on rushing to 40 as absolutely quickly as possible (little or no open rvr, straight grinding of Scenarios/PQs/Quests, playing only a single character) you will find most of them are in the 10-11 range when you get in, or at worst very low T2, which means you can still group with them in most situations. There may be a brief time when there is a Tier difference, but all that means is you might not be able to do the same scenarios, you can certainly go and rvr with them open field, do PQs with them, quest, etc.

So be at ease, it will all equalize very quickly.

[Arnull]

Well, guess you should have bought the CE then. If you wanted to be such an achiever then you should have gone all the way.........

All this whining is pointless. It never ceases to amaze me how something good gets done for people and they still find something to whine about. sheesh.....

Mythic didn't have to have ANY head start, my god, stop the whining and enjoy what you get.

So, if you buy a car and you discover the engine is missing because the salesman desided to take it out, you would be fine with that? No, Mythic hadn't have to give a headstart. But you know what? They did. They sold a product in which this was a part of it. And if they push the date further away, people get upset. Especially when the european beta went soooo smooth...

[Seregul]

It was suppose to be the 15th for se orders congrats you just lost 3 more orders..

lol, this is the first official announcement for US head start. It's your fault for assuming the SE's started the 15th.

[Spektrum]

Meh the post I was responding to has already had plenty responses.

[Mordrin]

This thread is so full of fail. I can't believe some of the whiners I'm seeing here. Oh my god they get to play two days before us? Who the **** cares? In time we are all going to hit the cap, I'm sorry if someone beats you there. Geez I wish my life was so easy or pathetic my major concern on a day to day was how unfair the WAR headstart is, sheesh. Grow up!

[Rockfang]

If the Headstart code is entered, should it say "head start" in the account center? Currently mine only says closed beta.

Anyone know?

[Gif]

Well for me personally its like this..... This game's poor performance *such as poor FPS the outstanding number of CTD's* on both of my machines which are both more than double the min req and the fact of mythic pulling this I am certainly debating just sticking with "That other Game that is currently dominating the MMO world". Even if the dev's at Blizz are sh@t heads at least they don't promise or seem to promise something and then not deliver. Yes they never announced the actual date of HS but they also never said that CE people would have different times than the SE people. Mythic knew what they were doing simply just trying to increase their sales because most people that play MMO's are playing WoW and from the looks of this thread i have a feeling a lot of people will continue to play it and just wait for WotLK because Blizz is taking the best parts of this game and adding it to their already brilliant game. Mythic i hope you are looking at this thread and noticing the SE people *which are gonna be the BIG part of your script* numbers are quite upset. Cry if you want CE people you paid for your little art book and a cool looking box. I have a large group of people friends/famliy/guildies that we all play together about 75 *150 active in Guild in WoW* of us total and we are all considering just stayin with WoW now because of Mythic's shadyness. Oh well sucks for Mythic GL with your game and i hope it does well and doesn't turn into another Deadguard / Age of Crapland.

[Sifr]

Anyone know?


GameStop Pre-Order Includes: Rittenbach's Portable Camp and Sentinel's Amber Band
Closed Beta Tester Closed Beta Tester
Reward: Email Validated Includes: Title - 'The Validated'
CE Head Start Provides access to the CE Head Start

[Link006]

I have an actual question about the preorder:

When will we get the boxes? I ordered off EA Store.com; will they be shipping the box so I will have it on the 16th to install and play or should I just patch the game with the OB client?

And... for the record... as an SE preorder, I have no problem getting two less days than the CE preorder; they never said the HS was going to be the same length. It's hard for Mythic to deliver on their promises when people keep putting words into their mouth.

[Sparklehorse]

I have a large group of people friends/famliy that we all play together about 15 of us total and we are all considering just stayin with WoW now because of Mythic's shadyness. Oh well sucks for Mythic GL with your game and i hope it does well and doesn't turn into another Deadguard / Age of Crapland.

I'm bringing 37 members from my guild in that other game to make up for this, don't worry :p. We'll be capping keeps and slaughtering greenies and chaos while you're playing your brilliant game.

There is absolutely zero, let me repeat this for emphasis ZERO chance that this game will go the way of Vanguard or AoC.

[Reaverr]

It would have been seriously nice to, you know, announce this schedule more than seven days out.

I have to guess what happened is they looked at PW+ and open beta and saw that even after three days of PW+ well over 90% of the population was still in tier 1. So to smooth out the population a bit they made the SE headstart 2 days instead of 3, to make three waves (CE/SE/retail) with 2-day spacing instead if 1/3-day spacing.


I think alot of people were in tier 1 still because everything was going to be wiped anyway so people were just dinking around.

I think the whole thing bites. What about those who bought CE and still haven't seen anything but an SE code. I really though Mythic was going to end up releasing to both at the same time since the retailers messed everything up sp bad.

Releasing on Monday at the latest for SE still would have cleared things out. A bunch of people, myself included, took off from work. Additionally these are going to be slow leveling days anyway. You have a group of people who took off and won't be there more than 1 day away and all the others who are working or going to school who probably won't be out of tier 1 before release within 2 days.

I think they will just end up with more tier 1 clutter now on release. Being headstarted on weekdays for only 2 days probably won't give anyone working time to get out of the area.

i know....wwwaaaahhh

paying for a CE though and having SE codes has made me a little upset over the whole thing though. Being we had multiple threads going on trying to solve this for many of us, my faith was really in Mythic not the retailers when it came to the headstart.

[Malvolio]

Why all the wailing and gnashing of teeth over headstart? Evidently, not many have figured out that headstart doesn't give any player a lasting benefit. Within a month, any level advantage you have gained will be gone. People are really carping over ephemeral crap.

[ProjectMercy]

I doubt it has anything to do with whining. My gutt says it has to do with server load.

They know CE is 60k copies. They know the # of servers they want to release at start. They found out during OB that it takes people 1-2 days to get to T2. Consequently, they want the CE people out of the noob zones before the SE people get in, and they needed 2 days to do it.

They don't want you all hitting the servers at the same time. There's no reason for them to scale a system out to deal with a 1-time cost of 500k people creating at once.

Though a sick side of me hopes they have some failure on CE release day that keeps them from playing, so that when those people who whined about not getting "anything" for the CE, come here to complain, you can rub their faces in their hypocrisy. "You're lucky to have gotten to play before the 18th!" Then again, I love to read forum drama.

[Malloryn]

My concern affects both CE and SE pre-orders regarding what was said about the retail product key (not to be confused with the codes sent under a separate email):

http://www.warhammeronline.com/ce_preorder/ (http://www.warhammeronline.com/ce_preorder/) for CE

http://www.warhammeronline.com/preorder/ (http://www.warhammeronline.com/preorder/) for SE

* Please note that the 30-day billing period for Head Start accounts will begin on Thursday, Sept. 18th, but players will have until 9am EDT on Monday, Sept. 22nd to input their retail product key. If a retail product key has not been entered by that date, the account will be closed until it is added.

I preordered from the EA Store a while ago and I have no idea how many days it will take to ship the retail box (the invoice doesn't provide this information either). This is a very small window for something that is out of our hands.

[Tomar]

It really isn't about the amount of time I'm given, or that they're given. It's more the fact that SO many greedy people existed purely on these boards and whined SO hard about only having one additional day in the headstart that they effectively robbed their fellow players (IN A COOPERATIVE RVR GAME) the opportunity to play an extra day.

It's amazing, I don't care what you say. It's also pathetic.

I'm a CE person--I think 1 extra day was fine. I wish you guys were starting on Monday cause there will be very little T2 RvR for a long time (I might be in T3 by then). At least the 50k extra starting on Monday would be nice.

[tungstun]

it's awesome that despite there never having been an announcement on the headstart dates until this point, people are still trying to claim they've been "robbed" a day...... the start dates that were "leaked" were "EU Headstart Dates" ........ and they were not supposed to have been announced to my understanding.....


anyway.... people freaking out about this make me very very sad.

CE people enjoy your days i think it's mighty nifty you get them..... i have no problems with it at all.... it just ensures that when everyone else gets to T2 there will already be some scenarios and rvr lake things going on... instead of just a great nothing of nothing....

[tungstun]

although... thinking about this again...

with the projected server sizes you guys really are freaking out about even less than nothing... most likely there will simply be CE servers..... because there will be more than enough CE people to fill up multiple servers..... so the whole server will be playing two days ahead of time.... it won't be all spread out unless mythic spreads it out themselves....

so yeah.... it's just a CE server headstart program more than just a group of players....

and they can all run around with their "unique" faces and items.... hahaha.

[Hinzu]

I've come to the conclusion that Mark Jacobs himself could deliver your game, a new PC from 10 years in the future, an account that starts every character maxed out, no lag, and 20 of the hottest cheerleaders (gender of your choice) to cheer you on as you play WAR and you would still have people complain.

My whole point is why can't people be happy with what they got.


QFT. :mrgreen:

[tungstun]

it's this generation Y... they are gross and have a wicked fat sense of entitlement.

[Blinx]

we may of lost a day of gaming but imagine if everyone registerd on the 15th. we wud get a repeat of the open beta registration which would mean we woudl start playing even later. so stop whineing if they hadn't off done this we wud be playing even l8er due to registration downtime.

[Link006]

My concern affects both CE and SE pre-orders regarding what was said about the retail product key (not to be confused with the codes sent under a separate email):

http://www.warhammeronline.com/ce_preorder/ (http://www.warhammeronline.com/ce_preorder/) for CE

http://www.warhammeronline.com/preorder/ (http://www.warhammeronline.com/preorder/) for SE

* Please note that the 30-day billing period for Head Start accounts will begin on Thursday, Sept. 18th, but players will have until 9am EDT on Monday, Sept. 22nd to input their retail product key. If a retail product key has not been entered by that date, the account will be closed until it is added.

I preordered from the EA Store a while ago and I have no idea how many days it will take to ship the retail box (the invoice doesn't provide this information either). This is a very small window for something that is out of our hands.

I went ahead and shelled out for 1-2 day shipping... but the question is... 1-2 days from when?

[Grunkaz]

I've booked in Annual Leave for the first day of CE headstart. :) :)

[Fafurion]

Overall i was upset with the changes. I was convinced it was the 15th for the SE customers, even my D2D preorder said the headstart would be "several days in advance" so some false advertisement there. Amazon stated it would be 3 days in their ads, false advertisement. Even tentonhammer said it was the 15th.

Also what does this really mean? Will we actually have a free month of gameplay or not? It sounds like we have to pay right away.

* Please note that the 30-day billing period for Head Start accounts will begin on Thursday, Sept. 18th, but players will have until 9am EDT on Monday, Sept. 22nd to input their retail product key. If a retail product key has not been entered by that date, the account will be closed until it is added.

[Yarth]

Also what does this really mean? Will we actually have a free month of gameplay or not? It sounds like we have to pay right away.

* Please note that the 30-day billing period for Head Start accounts will begin on Thursday, Sept. 18th, but players will have until 9am EDT on Monday, Sept. 22nd to input their retail product key. If a retail product key has not been entered by that date, the account will be closed until it is added.

It means that you can start playing the 14/16th with a Headstart Code. But, if you want to play with your account past the 22nd you have to enter the Retail Key (Code that is shipped with the Discs). HOWEVER, as I understand it; you don't have to pay until the 18th of October.

Personally I ordered a CE because I really want the Concept Art book (I like to draw and I like to look at stuff other people have drawn; and I particularly want to see what other people have drawing based upon WAR). Though getting into the game a few days early is a great bonus. And seeing how I have brought more than a few characters through the first 10-15 levels I reckon I should be able to do it in no time (yes I am a powerleveler). The most important first milestone for my permanent character (just thinking about the fact that THIS TIME my character WILL NOT be deleted makes me giddy) is to get a mount. So go go level 20 here I come. Time to buckle up and save up all those copper pieces.

[Grumble]

although... thinking about this again...

with the projected server sizes you guys really are freaking out about even less than nothing... most likely there will simply be CE servers..... because there will be more than enough CE people to fill up multiple servers..... so the whole server will be playing two days ahead of time.... it won't be all spread out unless mythic spreads it out themselves....

so yeah.... it's just a CE server headstart program more than just a group of players....

and they can all run around with their "unique" faces and items.... hahaha.

You make a very good point, but it might not matter.

The likely truth is, the CE HS servers will be crammed full, and then a whole wave of SE/retail players will come looking for thier friends and guildies from the headstart, making those same servers even more impossibly crowded.

I just hope and pray Mythic comes out with enough servers during the headstart to mitigate this potential problem.

[Schmidty]

This thread makes me happy for some reason.

I only have the SE, and took the 15th off of work to play WH a bit. I'd be a little disappointed, but I just got a new set of golf clubs last week. So instead of sitting inside hunched over my computer all day, I'm looking at this scenario:

1. Dust off the old Mustang, and go for a nice drive up to little Everson, WA, and go golfing at Raspberry Ridge.

2. After the round, have some beers and a burger.

3. Go home and play with my kid on the trampoline.

4. Grill some baby back ribs. Eat them.

5. Watch a movie with my family.

5. Make love to my beautiful wife.

6. Sleep.

Heck, that sounds even better than the original reason I took the day off!!! :mrgreen:

[Danlo]

If the Headstart code is entered, should it say "head start" in the account center? Currently mine only says closed beta.


Thats how mine worked when I activated my Headstart code a few hours ago. My account now says its flagged for CE Headstart, Ingame Item, Player Title, and Open Beta, where it was only flagged for Open Beta prior to me activating my headstart code.

[CoSMasterkiller]

They have said over and over and over that SE would launch on the 15th. Myself and many guildies have taken off of work or rescheduled work to launch on the 15th together. Now that it has been CHANGED to the 16th we are going to be doing nothing on the 15th and then again little on the 16th as we are back to work. SE vs CE aside, if they said SE's on the 15th they need to stick with it. http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1263326#post1263326

[L2eatsushi]

Well, I have the CE head start, but it starts Sunday, which sucks because I'll be switching back and fourth between Football and WAR which will slow my playing down. I'll be working Monday until 6 pm, and then Watching the Eagles vs. Cowboys so I don't think i'll level much again.

It also sounds like many people took days off of work to actually smoke crack... er, I mean play a game. So my CE is kinda useless to me at this moment since I see most SE players will out level me probably in a day.

[Grumble]

They have said over and over and over that SE would launch on the 15th. Myself and many guildies have taken off of work or rescheduled work to launch on the 15th together. Now that it has been CHANGED to the 16th we are going to be doing nothing on the 15th and then again little on the 16th as we are back to work. SE vs CE aside, if they said SE's on the 15th they need to stick with it. http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1263326#post1263326

Im not putting you down in any way here, I feel your pain. And actually I kinda wish it was just a one day difference myself so my friends can join me sooner.

But what you are looking at is the EU start date, NOT the US start date. Mythic has never, ever ever said, hinted or implied that the SE would start on the 15th. We are the ones that assumed, and while it was a GOOD assumption that seemed reasonable, we were WRONG.

[Arfeiniel]

I'm really bummed about the 16th being the SE start date instead of the 15th. I have the CE but all of my friends and my husband have the SE, so that means 2 days of playing an alt for me so I don't get ahead of them. Plus my husband took off for the 15th, not the 16th, and yes I know that's his fault for ASSUMING.

I am also concerned that Mythic will pull the same server stunt they did with OB and not release all the servers at the same time, meaning if the server we've agreed to play on is not up for CE, then I won't be able to make my character anyway. I really hope they put up all servers at once!

[CoSMasterkiller]

I'm really bummed about the 16th being the SE start date instead of the 15th. I have the CE but all of my friends and my husband have the SE, so that means 2 days of playing an alt for me so I don't get ahead of them. Plus my husband took off for the 15th, not the 16th, and yes I know that's his fault for ASSUMING.

I am also concerned that Mythic will pull the same server stunt they did with OB and not release all the servers at the same time, meaning if the server we've agreed to play on is not up for CE, then I won't be able to make my character anyway. I really hope they put up all servers at once!

Many of us are in the same boat Arfeniniel, having CE's 2 days ahead of SE's doesn't help ANYONE except the solo players that are just going to try and grind out max level fast as they can. Either guildies and friends are going to have to do nothing for 2 days (seriously why 2 whole days??) or they have to experience the game and content in an underpopulated realm. If they do release limited servers at CE launch, and then fill up before friends/guildies can join, they will have to reroll on another server anyway. 2 days between CE/SE is not a win for anyone.

[KillaManiac]

They have said over and over and over that SE would launch on the 15th. Myself and many guildies have taken off of work or rescheduled work to launch on the 15th together. Now that it has been CHANGED to the 16th we are going to be doing nothing on the 15th and then again little on the 16th as we are back to work. SE vs CE aside, if they said SE's on the 15th they need to stick with it. http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1263326#post1263326


Too bad thats for EU players. Not to mention its Goa, so they won't get to play till 16th anyways because of messups.

You SE people complaining SO much need to calm down. The SE preorder used to not come with anything. Only recently did they say they get HS also (which pissed off CE people ALOT).

2 days isn't much time....if anything the 2 days will get CE to Tier 2, then SE people come...after 2 days they goto Tier 2...and finally the retail buyers with no preorders come in.

It all works better this way for server load on Mythic's end.

[CoSMasterkiller]

Too bad thats for EU players. Not to mention its Goa, so they won't get to play till 16th anyways because of messups.

You SE people complaining SO much need to calm down. The SE preorder used to not come with anything. Only recently did they say they get HS also (which pissed off CE people ALOT).

2 days isn't much time....if anything the 2 days will get CE to Tier 2, then SE people come...after 2 days they goto Tier 2...and finally the retail buyers with no preorders come in.

It all works better this way for server load on Mythic's end.

SE complains to much? That is hillarious, remember these forums when CE's found out SE's got headstart also? Kettle meet pot? Headstart was originally a 3day HS, then they added an extra day for CE's, now they pushed back SE's and no one is getting a 3day HS.

[Gauge]

I doubt it has anything to do with whining. My gutt says it has to do with server load.

They know CE is 60k copies. They know the # of servers they want to release at start. They found out during OB that it takes people 1-2 days to get to T2. Consequently, they want the CE people out of the noob zones before the SE people get in, and they needed 2 days to do it.

They don't want you all hitting the servers at the same time. There's no reason for them to scale a system out to deal with a 1-time cost of 500k people creating at once.

Though a sick side of me hopes they have some failure on CE release day that keeps them from playing, so that when those people who whined about not getting "anything" for the CE, come here to complain, you can rub their faces in their hypocrisy. "You're lucky to have gotten to play before the 18th!" Then again, I love to read forum drama.

I agree on the last paragraph! :) War CE players are lucky, I ordered the Burning Crusade CE and all I got was a crappy in game dragon.

[KillaManiac]

SE complains to much? That is hillarious, remember these forums when CE's found out SE's got headstart also? Kettle meet pot? Headstart was originally a 3day HS, then they added an extra day for CE's, now they pushed back SE's and no one is getting a 3day HS.


Did you not even read what I posted? I said CE people did complain alot, but had a legit reason to complain.

Headstart was never announced as a 3 day HS, and they never pushed back SE's headstart as the dates have only been announced ONE time..which was yesterday.

You need to learn the difference between NA territory and EU territory and also while your at it...Mythic and Goa. When Mythic says a date...believe it. When Goa says a date...hope for it (I know people in EU are hoping to not get a delay of some sort).

[Ragenrok]

Well if your a CE pre-order but have SE friends do what I plan.

Make your main and level him as much as you can in the first 2 days, then make an alt you really want to play as well and use that to level with your friends. When you and your friends hit the same level as your first char you now have a choice of which one you like more and have a alt already started :D

Honestly all the SE pre-orders should be happy, I mean they never even had to give you OB/Head start bonus' in the first place as it was originaly promised to CE's and enevr mentioned SE's at all.

[postmodernchris]

it's this generation Y... they are gross and have a wicked fat sense of entitlement.

Sorry but it is you the younger generation that is easily complacent, now days if you voice your opinion your a whiner or a troublemaker. This forum was made to do just for that purpose to voice your opinion, but most of you use it to butt kiss the game developers hoping they will give you something for you efforts. This younger generation has no Individual thought they do as the media says. Most of you would eat dog poo if a TV star or singer said it was a cool thing to do. I am not mad about the push back, my grief is it was very much implied by Mythic and all the game stores (and if you people say they never heard of the 3 day they are lying) that you got 3 days, going as far as to the point of people (friends) in my guild that bought the game online having their email saying they would get 3 days. It just comes do to this I like the game it is a the best MMO I have played, so I am not going to be like the guy who said you lost 3 subscribers. People should be able to post thier griefs with all the name calling which is kind of grade school, I mean come on really people! see yah all monday =)

[Raistaran]

Sorry, but unless you can show where Mythic themselves officially said the SE head start would be 3 days long, then you are guilty of assuming. End of story. Not saying that proof doesn't exist, but if it does I haven't seen it yet.

Just be glad you'll be able to take advantage of the head start. Some of us have spouses that planned a vacation for next week and won't get to play until Saturday. :(

[Falinil]

Grats CE guys, I will see you folks on the 16th and then....


WAAAAAAAAAGGGGHHHHH!!!!!


/smirk

[MrOblivious]

Half of the posts in this thread are people who pre-ordered CE bashing on people that pre-ordered SE because said people are complaning because they got screwed of one day of headstart.

Nerds are cruel sometimes.

[Rampage]

Some of you people seriously need lives if playing a game for 2 days straight are your plans for next week. Bickering about how people are going to be level 20 is just stupid. Itd be much healthier for you guys to quit playing games altogether.

[Hydraa]

Group hugs!! :mrgreen:

[Setholamuel]

BTW any tentative time for HS on the 14th?

[AngelofWar87]

It's updated on the CE pre-order information:

Collector's Edition pre-order customers will be granted Head Start access on September 14th at 7am EDT. Characters created in the Head Start program will carry over when the servers officially go live on the Day of Reckoning - September 18th. http://www.warhammeronline.com/ce_preorder/

[Karosse]

Nice find Angel.

[Zythen]

And you know who is going to remember who did what years from now after the next big game comes along? Nobody.

Anything and everything you do in an MMO is temporary. All the time you spent leveling a character or getting that one piece of gear is going to be forgotten or wiped clean in a relatively short period of time.

It's a video game. It's an extra day. Get over it. If you're really an achiever, video game events is one of the last things you should obsess over.

truer words have not been spoken ... I rember back in the day in WoW before BC and before the server groups for the BG's when on the WoW homepage it showed the name of the person who was the # 1 pvper on your server my main was on that page for MONTHS and at the time I was the most known player on aerie peak I could go anywhere and do anything I wanted I could tell guilds I was not a part of that I wanted to go with them and BANG a spot opend, I never had to pay for enchants or potions or anything just so I would notice them everyone wanted to eather have me in there guild or be in my guild Prodigy. ... then I went away for 6 months... I came back and it went from rockstar status to that old D list celeb who does reality shows to keep his name barely reconizable.

[Zythen]

It's updated on the CE pre-order information:

http://www.warhammeronline.com/ce_preorder/


ung Ill prolly wake up save some names then go back to bed.

[mikeohara]

shame I'll be out of town when the headstart kicks up ... still can't wait to play!

[Kamaul]

God im ing sick of the SE people complaining that CE is longer.

Until a month of so ago there wasnt even a SE head start so stop being crying little kids and be happy u get 2 days ahead.

Plus its a good thing, the starting areas well be less populated so you can level faster.

so suck it up and be glad you get anything at all.

[Jafsasg]

it's this generation Y... they are gross and have a wicked fat sense of entitlement.
Kids these days, back in my day I had to walk 3 miles in the snow uphill to play a FRPG. We had to actually roll dice and the death penalty was permanent.


Overall i was upset with the changes. I was convinced it was the 15th for the SE customers, even my D2D preorder said the headstart would be "several days in advance" so some false advertisement there. Amazon stated it would be 3 days in their ads, false advertisement. Even tentonhammer said it was the 15th.
.....

Why did Mythic decrease the length of the headstart from the implied(perhaps overtly communicated to the above retailers) for the regular pre-orders? "My guess is that the short head-start for regular editions is solely to placate the complaints from the CE people. i.e., mythic could not figure out a way to give something of real value to the CE people so they had to take away something from someone else to increase the relative value of the CE edition."

No one was robbed but there has been some miscommunication on the matter and a reasonable expectation of a longer headstart. A day or two is not going to kill anyone but then again posting your dissatisfaction on the issue in a game forum is a reasonable response. I don't see a need for a lot of drama on this issue on way or another. Some posters may want to avoid complaining about complaining or whining about whining.

I am looking forward to the release of the game.

[Zain]

I for one pre-ordered the SE and I am perfectly fine with the headstart date. Since Mythic never actually stated that the SE headstart would be on the 15th, I don't see why everyone here is so pissed. Grow up guys.

[Cyrean]

I had in my head for some reason that all the headstarts were today :/
Ill have to wait till next weekend to get some serious playtime in since ive got classes all week.
and i would have bought the CE if there was any left anywhere i looked. :/
oh well, 5 years from now a couple days wont mean anything.


oh and for those of you who are whining that you are getting left in the dust, the game only goes to lvl 40, in a few weeks when all the CE players are lvl 40 and you are lvl 39 do you seriously think that those two days meant much in the short long run? you will probably be rolling another toon by then anyway!

[Vanderghast]

PQ's should be alot of fun for you CE people. All 2 of you trying to finish one, should be a hoot. RVR scenarios should be fun too, probably 2 hour queue's.

This is a team RVR game, they should have started all pre orders the same day.

[ThePlague]

PQ's should be alot of fun for you CE people. All 2 of you trying to finish one, should be a hoot. RVR scenarios should be fun too, probably 2 hour queue's.

This is a team RVR game, they should have started all pre orders the same day.

omg do i agree with this. I am listening to some of my guild friends play and i am a little jealous.

[Zyrena]

Lost the link in poking around more, but did I see right, EU SE Pre-Orders get to start Monday and US SE Pre-Orders are still Tuesday? Not meaning to start any drama, just trying to clarify dates as I have to direct my guild as best as possible in server selection.

[Sidgar]

I'm not sad that I can't start the game 2 days earlier...I'm just sad that I can't play WAR for 2 days ;_;

Open beta plox?

[WitchRose]

This has been an amusing thread to read. People bashing each other left and right with all the standard MMO forum name calling and poor behavior.

I do not have a problem with starting on the 16th, but I do agree it has been said (maybe not by Mythic) that headstart would be 3 days for SE pre-orders. If this was not true then Mythic should have put a stop to it. Since they did not, it would show how much they value all of the customers by making it the 15th. In many pre-order stores it has been posted it would be 3 days when people went to purchase the pre-orders. So yes there is proof that it has been said the headstart would be 3 days. It does not matter that Mythic did not post this themselves. They knew about it just like everyone else and did not put a stop to it or correct anyone with a post on the matter.

Like I said before, I have no problem with waiting another day but that does not mean people should not voice complaints on the matter. The childish name calling and constant oh you are babies or whinners should stop. I thought the forums had rules against such things like personal attacks. I guess that only applies to people who insult the mods friends. Now if they have sent out warnings or such then this should be ignored. If not then they should they should put a clamp on this poor behavior in here.

(Ideas and thoughts are welcome. Insults and disparaging remarks will not be tolerated.) Straight from the forum rules.

[Spiggy]

This has been an amusing thread to read. People bashing each other left and right with all the standard MMO forum name calling and poor behavior.

I think you will find that as usual the majority of people posting with such abusive attitudes to SE HS people are people that are in CE HS and therefore have no problems. If however they hadn't managed to get a CE then they too would be the ones posting whining about it being a day longer than expected, LOL

[Tudana]

From the General News category we have: Live Game Headstart Dates Announced!

WAAAGH!!!

Can't get enough of Open Beta but you're ready to finally start your journey in the Age of Reckoning?

Starting Sunday, September 14th all Collectors Edition Pre-Order players will be invited to join us as we kick off WAR and officially end Open Beta.

On Tuesday, September 16th all Standard Edition Pre-Order players will join the ranks of Collectors Edition players as we prepare to release WAR to the world next Thursday, September 18th.

Make sure you've used your Open Beta code to download the client from FilePlanet (http://www.fileplanet.com/promotions/warhammeronline/keyauth_login.aspx) and have registered your Head Start code in the Mythic Account Center (http://accounts.eamythic.com/) so you don't miss a minute of action!

WAR is Coming - We'll see you there!



Source (http://herald.warhammeronline.com/warherald/NewsArticle.war?id=241)

I know the CE headstart time was at 1:00pm EST, has anyone heard what the start/accessable time will be for the SE folk stomorrow (16th)

Thanks

[fatfingers]

truer words have not been spoken ... I rember back in the day in WoW before BC and before the server groups for the BG's when on the WoW homepage it showed the name of the person who was the # 1 pvper on your server my main was on that page for MONTHS and at the time I was the most known player on aerie peak I could go anywhere and do anything I wanted I could tell guilds I was not a part of that I wanted to go with them and BANG a spot opend, I never had to pay for enchants or potions or anything just so I would notice them everyone wanted to eather have me in there guild or be in my guild Prodigy. ... then I went away for 6 months... I came back and it went from rockstar status to that old D list celeb who does reality shows to keep his name barely reconizable.


lol @ troll or =/= troll /fail

[Skarchasm]

I know the CE headstart time was at 1:00pm EST, has anyone heard what the start/accessable time will be for the SE folk stomorrow (16th)

Thanks


I have seen it written, on the www.warhammeronline.com/preorder (http://www.warhammeronline.com/preorder) page that it is going to be 7am EDT. Here is a quote from that page,

<<<Pre-order customers will be able to log into the game starting September 16th at 7am EDT. Characters created in the Head Start program will carry over when the servers officially go live on the Day of Reckoning - September 18th. Use your OPEN BETA pre-order code to download the client from FilePlanet.com (http://www.fileplanet.com/promotions/warhammeronline/keyauth_login.aspx). >>>