hi, whats your dwarven mount choice

[dwarfadin]

hi i read my replies to my previous post and if its ok id like to put all your thoughts intop a poll.
i might run out of space but ill make an attempt.
thanks goodluck in WAR.

[Tzathiel]

Rhinox' are faaar too big for dwarves.. hence why theyre used by Ogres.
I voted No Mount.. Mainly cos i dont feel dwarves should have a mount (obviously). But if they had to have something, it should be something small that they can get up on with ease. (like a go kart)

[Snorri]

I do not want dwarfs to have a mount.
But they WILL get a travel mount, so there is no point voting for that option. I may as well just show which of the mounts I would prefer...

I am leaning towards Yaks and Mules...
Mules are the most obvious choice.

[Julius]

If we all just vote "no mount" then maybe Mythic won't do it.

I mean, it's always worth the try.;)

[Snorri]

I am fairly surprised at how many people are voting for "barrel/cart pulled by an animal."
Yes, ok, they are not great riders. But that would just look utterly ridiculous on-screen.

Either no mounts at all - or something halfway decent and fitting. :p

[NoneSuch]

See rolling around in barrels ftw ! ( I have a feeling all the orcs are voting for that option)

You'z Cud Ride On Da End Of me Choppa.

[Krulltak]

When not ridin' on da end of me choppa, dem stunties shuld be ridin dem stinkin' oxes!

[Huckbuck]

I am fairly surprised at how many people are voting for "barrel/cart pulled by an animal."
Yes, ok, they are not great riders. But that would just look utterly ridiculous on-screen.

Either no mounts at all - or something halfway decent and fitting. :p


Think Santa. Now do you understand why everyone votes that?

[Flegler]

I think a sturdy mountain pony would be ideal, though it's not in the poll. It's a bit more dignified than riding a donkey.

I'm dead set against every dwarf haing a mechanical vehicle though, that's for sure. Gyrocopters, steam tanks and the like ought to be rare and expensive devices. I could tolerate high-tier engineers getting some sort of steam-powered toboggan or whatever though.

[Okri]

Well, I voted for mountain donkeys, but I think there was no need to make both a donkey and a mule option, as the differences are quite miniscule. Plus, as stated in the other mount thread, donkeys, and presumably mules too, are stubborn, ugly and smelly, just like your average dwarf.

[Krulltak]

Well, I voted for mountain donkeys, but I think there was no need to make both a donkey and a mule option, as the differences are quite miniscule. Plus, as stated in the other mount thread, donkeys, and presumably mules too, are stubborn, ugly and smelly, just like your average dwarf.

A mule is half horse, half donkey, and much more enduring than a donkey. Their is your difference.;)

[dutch_gamer]

I am fairly surprised at how many people are voting for "barrel/cart pulled by an animal."
Yes, ok, they are not great riders. But that would just look utterly ridiculous on-screen.

I am not really surprised by it. The people voting on that, are people who most likely have zero interest in playing a Dwarf. It is just an option for the people who RP to hate Dwarfs and want them to have a silly mount. Because for some reason it is considered cool to "hate" Dwarfs. But I want to see a cool mount for every single race, even those pesky Elves.

I do think that the poll has too many options. Like others have said, the OP could have put the mule and donkey under the same option and remove the steamtank.

I'm dead set against every dwarf haing a mechanical vehicle though, that's for sure. Gyrocopters, steam tanks and the like ought to be rare and expensive devices. I could tolerate high-tier engineers getting some sort of steam-powered toboggan or whatever though.

I agree. I think a mechanical vehicle is only fitting for an Engineer. I think the other careers should get a real animal. And no, no shieldbearer either. It makes no sense that a shieldbearer is carrying around a Dwarf and yet can walk way faster than a Dwarf on foot.

[NoneSuch]

Ohh someones being touchy :p

[Snorri]

No orcling, someone is using their brain. ;) :p

[Azagh Headbeata]

Originally posted by Snorri No orcling, someone is using their brain. :wink: :razz:

hes got a point .....

Bears would be nice a big brown bear my brother is an artist and he drew dwarves on bears and they looked really good

[NoneSuch]

Meh really dwarves don't need mounts , just give them.... er... Slayers?.... Hammers?....

:p

[Snorri]

Yea, I really like the idea of dwarfs riding bears - would look cool methinks. I was a supporter of that idea a while ago before this thread was created; hairy fat midgets riding around on hairy fat bears, each with short tempers and as subtle as a thunder storm!

But unfortunately, there is no reason for warhammer dwarfs to ride bears. :-\ And I believe those are the mounts of Kislev? Correct me if I am wrong. Which is why I think our likely candidates are Mules or Mountain Ponies... or Carts god forbid. :p

Yea, we dont need mounts, just give us slayers!!
And more axes n' hammers!
And of course more ale.

[NoneSuch]

You know the only reason people connect dwarfs and bears is due to the world of warcraft Intro movie where there's a dwarf with a bear pet :p

Most likley secretly embeded into the backs of peoples minds .

[Ripple]

Well I voted mule, but that isn't my real choice. I know Snorri thinks carts/wagons would be dumb, I argee. My idea was a "war chariot" (think Ben Her, only all Dwarfed out, ie, runes and such) or a beer cart. Seeing a mass of Dwarfs on chariots doesn't sound silly to me. But I fear Snorri may be right in thinking that it would be too difficult to put in the game. And so I voted mule.

P.S. I don't want a silly mount for Dwarfs, I honestly think war-chariots would be cool:(
And I think your mistaking other people's votes for Dwarf mounts. I think it's them putting their orcy sillyness on the Dwarfs. Just read the Orc Transportation thread in the Greenskin Army Discussion, you'll see what I mean. Orc players just think differently is all.:)

[Okri]

Well, chariots just don't do all that well up in the mountains, you know? And steam-tank shouldn't even be taken into consideration either, they're a manling thing. The rhinox can be excluded from the poll as well, as can the "no mount" option, since we are getting a mount, much as I'd prefer not to.
Mule/donkey/pony(the "epic" version being called a pwny?) are all good, if you ask me...

[arthurfoxshot]

I just voted for cart pulled by animal but as other peeps say
it woulndt do to well on the mountains.
So i would say Yaks beat all.

[Julius]

I hope Mythic looks here and sees that most people don't want a Dwarf mount. (Yeah, excluding the people who want to see silly stuff like the cart thingie.)

[NoneSuch]

I hope mythic could tell that we're about 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000.00000.00001 Of the playerbase before taking our opinion into account :p

[Okri]

Well, dwarfs will get a mount, end of discussion. I don't think Mythic is happy to put them in, but I think they realise they kind of have to, when bearing in mind that they do want to create a game that is enjoyable, not only by the ones who know the Old World, but also newcomers. And to them, dwarfs not having a mount would seem odd, and would perhaps scare them away from choosing dwarfs as a race. Remember, the game is not only for hard-core table-top gamers or roleplayers, it has to appeal to the casual gamer as well.

[Ripple]

I hope mythic could tell that we're about 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000.00000.00001 Of the playerbase before taking our opinion into account :p

Wow, I didn't know we were that small. :D

[Snorri]

We here on the dwarf forums are even smaller. :)

[NoneSuch]

Oh my that was terrible :p

[versuvius]

wouldnt a steam tank be damned expensie compared to a mule or yak....what do u think that dwarves are made of gold....or gold grows on trees....GOLD GROWS ON TREES! WHY DIDNT ANY ONE TELL ME

[Snorri]

Oh my that was terrible :p

Dwafs are not known for their grand humour. ;)

[versuvius]

speak for yourself

[Klitch]

speak for yourself

*looking at Versuvius's Sig"

Well...........

Editing for Clarification
I was hoping to draw attention to the fact that his sig was NOT in fact humorous at all, and bring light to his then ironic remark towards Snorri

[Smachaz]

*looking at Versuvius's Sig"

Well...........

BURN! .

[Krulltak]

*looking at Versuvius's Sig"

Well...........


That wasn't comedy, that was insanity. Anything realated to Versuvius is most likely related to insanity, thereby lowering your IQ by 3.

[Smachaz]

Hes either drunk 24/7, of fell on his head when his beard still didn't cover his chin.

[Black Razor]

I support my theory in the other thread of the same name .. giant badgers. They make perfect sense. They live underground, are ill tempered just like dwarves, and are low to the ground so dont require a foot stool to mount.

[Klitch]

fell on his head when his beard still didn't cover his chin.

What? Like 30 minutes ago? Nah he has been posting crazy talk before that....

[Snorri]

speak for yourself

Nope, its true. Dwarfs enjoy a good sarcastic jest, in fact they love sarcasm. But other than that; they do not have a very wide range of humour - we are not known for being great comedians, beardling. :p

Giant badgers?
Wow... I mean...
Well, its original, I’ll give you that!!

[Vegetta]

I would say either Mules or a cart and donkey/ pony

Remember there are dwarf farmers and they do rasie animals. I can see why they dont use mounts for combat as most of their battles take place in underground tunnels - not the best of conditions for riding a mount.

[versuvius]

but but but im hilarious.....

[Snorri]

but but but im hilarious.....

You're a Zaki - of course you think that.
:p

[GreyWarlord]

Correction on that signature, Zaki:

"How many dwarfs would it take to light a torch? None, dwarfs aren't afraid of the dark."

And I shall say it once more, my dwarf shall walk on foot (or maybe a mining cart if underground)! Mules make more sense than anything else here though.

[Okri]

Hah, I am starting to wonder who is more mad: The Deranged one, or the ones trying to talk some sense into him.

Anyhoo, as for the giant badger thing: Whether they live underground is debatable, as far as I know, since the only thing they actually do underground is sleep (and breed, I guess). Plus, badgers are generally nocturnal animals. But the idea is fresh and definitely worth the space it is written upon.

[TakkaTakkaTakka]

I vote bear(not in your list), mainly because I remember seeing a dwarf minature riding a bear once.

[Irakaz]

I declare no creature strong enough for my ironbreaker to ride and still be able to easily mount.

[Krulltak]

I declare no creature strong enough for my ironbreaker to ride and still be able to easily mount.


Trust me, if ANYTHING is strong enough to carry an orc(which are the boars who do it), or an ogre for that matter, than there must be somthing out there that can carry a dwarf.

[versuvius]

yes...a very big chiwawa

[Stormbrow]

No mount,if my legs can't get me there then I ain't gettin there.

[MageLite]

How about a yak? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:In_Tibet%2C_yaks_are_decorated_and_honored_b y_the_families_they_are_part_of.jpg)

[versuvius]

yeh well a few miles in, most dwarfs would probably stew it

[luy22]

:D http://store.us.games-workshop.com/storefront/store.us?do=List_Models&code=304509&orignav=300811&ParentID=254056&GameNav=300808

[versuvius]

in fact i could do with some beer stewed yak

[versuvius]

that blood bowl thing is funny

[Krulltak]

:D http://store.us.games-workshop.com/storefront/store.us?do=List_Models&code=304509&orignav=300811&ParentID=254056&GameNav=300808


My thought exactly......for engineers.

[versuvius]

like yours truly

[mongoose]

Might I qualify that the Rhinox should be a pigmy off shoot, bred from the Ogre variety specifically for the Dwarves.

[basdebeer]

i voted for tank becuase i don't care if the dwarfs don't have a mount but if the dwarfs have one it would be a liitle car loaded with guns and cannons (with high attention organ guns):P

[versuvius]

YEHZ YEHZ YEHZ!! awsome...kick weapons

[Krulltak]

i voted for tank becuase i don't care if the dwarfs don't have a mount but if the dwarfs have one it would be a liitle car loaded with guns and cannons (with high attention organ guns):P


You realize the bias of your post? Unless orcs get Gargantuan Squiggoths, steam tanks will not be a mount for anyone.

Not to mention steamtanks are owned and built by the Empire.

[versuvius]

dwarf ones are better

[Duerghaul]

A guildmate who attended Gencon asked one of the developers what kind of mount they're giving the Dwarfs. He replied that its going to be some sort of mechanized mount. Id rather get a ram or bear though.

[Darlos]

Ninja Pony!

[Nezumiiro Kitsune]

I chose that cart, cause in my opinion (and i hav alot o' that) its the'r closest to Wagon! It'd be good to carry yur ale and gold, an' you can ge' a young un' to drive, so you could sleep an' dream of Gold and Ale and Axe and Hammers an' GOLD! and more Ale! (and makin' Roadkill out'a the Slimey Skaven ~spits~) Although would like ta' see Feldûnost, it looks ta' me like they might be tha' property of that manling Christopher Paolini... goes to show how the Manlings think they are the elder race, with there inferior technologies and weak mind. Craftsmen's ships poor too, now I come to mention it! Nothi' on those ol' Dwarf relics, good as the day they wa' guilt I tells ya! Bah to there swords and bows! Aye I'm off to crush some filth ridden Skaven under my Iron boot! Been a slow day... :x ~Grumble~ Weak Ale... Bloody Bows... ~mutter mutter~ Too good for Dwarf Underwear eh?... ~grumble~

[versuvius]

iaye i agree with them manlings and some little dwarfs wearing silk undies...im going back to the steel and stone undies days...protection from everyting even yer mates boot!

[Duerghaul]

im going back to the steel and stone undies days...

don't ya mean Stone and Steel undies? sorry, a little shameless self-promotion

[Nezumiiro Kitsune]

Off Topic mates, buts its pointless making a thread about something so trivial. Has anyone ever seen a Dwarf wear a wide brimmed hat, like that of the Empire Witch Hunters and many Wizards? I need to see this, cause in my head it looks stupid, but that cause my head generally cant think rationally. So if anyone has any pics a link would be appreciated.

[Boulvae]

Does the rhinox option mean the transformers rhinox? Cause if so that would be wierd...cause your mount would have two machine guns with seemingly unlimited ammo.

[arthurfoxshot]

If we do get some machine instead of an animal then it better be somthing
good, I will hate the game if we get something like what the gnomes got in
WoW.

[mongoose]

I will hate the game if we get something like what the gnomes got in
WoW.

I will switch to the race I LEAST want to play, Greenskins, just to oppose and kill anyone riding a big mechanical Ostrich. :twisted:

[Okri]

I will switch to the race I LEAST want to play, Greenskins, just to oppose and kill anyone riding a big mechanical Ostrich. :twisted:

Nearly seconded.

A seriously stupid and unfitting mount is the only thing that might succeed in driving away from playing a dwarf. But it does have to be very very stupid, like Versuvius-stupid.

[versuvius]

what possesed WoW to make a mechanical ostrich...i mean...its a bird...whats that got to do with dwarfs

[Boulvae]

Actually they're for...for...gno-...them...the stunted stunties.

[V'raneth]

I can't help but notice pony is left off the list. Here, have some ponies.
pony (http://www.raresteeds.com/FellPonyWebRing/MurthwaiteBlackbird.jpg)
pony (http://www.raresteeds.com/FellPonyWebRing/TebayMagic.jpg)
pony (http://www.fellponies.com/images/balmgraze2.jpg)
pony (http://ukponies.com/dales-pony01.jpeg)
pony (http://www.ipcc.ie/kerrybogpony.jpeg)

[mongoose]

I can't help but notice pony is left off the list. Here, have some ponies.
pony (http://www.raresteeds.com/FellPonyWebRing/MurthwaiteBlackbird.jpg)
pony (http://www.raresteeds.com/FellPonyWebRing/TebayMagic.jpg)
pony (http://www.fellponies.com/images/balmgraze2.jpg)
pony (http://ukponies.com/dales-pony01.jpeg)
pony (http://www.ipcc.ie/kerrybogpony.jpeg)

no no no, THOSE arent ponies! Those are majestic beasts worthy of an Empire/High Elf rider.

If you want pony look at these: pony 1 (http://www.natuur.nl/foto/data/511/medium/lieve-pony.jpg), pony 2 (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/2c/Shetland_pony_1.jpg/250px-Shetland_pony_1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pony&h=184&w=250&sz=14&hl=en&start=2&tbnid=ovP7eHctDGYhwM:&tbnh=82&tbnw=111&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dpony%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26rls%3DG GLD,GGLD:2004-36,GGLD:en%26sa%3DN), or pony3 (http://www.ginamarieentertainment.com/images/pony.JPG) but this one (http://www.bioscop.cz/_web/_filmy/p_my_little_pony_princezna/sekce_video-film/prebal-cz/my%20little%20pony%20-%20princezna-dvd.jpg) is THE best! (purple ftw! Wouldnt the Dark Elves be jealous! :mrgreen: )

[arthurfoxshot]

I can't help but notice pony is left off the list. Here, have some ponies.
pony (http://www.raresteeds.com/FellPonyWebRing/MurthwaiteBlackbird.jpg)
pony (http://www.raresteeds.com/FellPonyWebRing/TebayMagic.jpg)
pony (http://www.fellponies.com/images/balmgraze2.jpg)
pony (http://ukponies.com/dales-pony01.jpeg)
pony (http://www.ipcc.ie/kerrybogpony.jpeg)

I don't want some stinkin pony anymore than you want some pink pig!(i got that from
some one elses idea cant rember who it was but still its great for elfllings:D )

[Kazgut]

Two weeks ago I visited the "local" Games Workshop and saw the Pony carts, they really looked awesome in my opinion. Gold carts with barrels and a small brown pony pushing it.

Now when we think of a pony look at what the guy above me shows, the hairy ones especially they totally fit a hairy dwarf!

[arthurfoxshot]

Two weeks ago I visited the "local" Games Workshop and saw the Pony carts, they really looked awesome in my opinion. Gold carts with barrels and a small brown pony pushing it.

Now when we think of a pony look at what the guy above me shows, the hairy ones especially they totally fit a hairy dwarf!

Maybe a fully armoured up one pulling a cart would't be to bad but a normal lookin pony
would just be crappy:)

[Okri]

What is it with the whole cart-idea? I would imagine it being very hard to implement a cart/wagon/whatever as a single-person mount, that everybody would have. Animating the carts realisticly would be a very long process, probably taking more than twice the time it would take to give us ponies. Now, I'm not advocating using the easiests method in evert condition, but if you want Mythic to spend a crap-load of time on making a cart move, turn, pitch and so forth in a realistic manner in, almost, every given situation, rather than "just" giving us a more standard, yet perfectly fitting mount as a Pony/donkey/mule and using the spare-time to do some more truely awesome stuff that, then by all means go about your business shouting "Carts! Carts for everyone!"
I seriously doubt carts will appear as mounts, unless of course mounts will be used in a totally different way than other games.

I could see carts or stage-coaches or such being used as inter-settlement transportation, like in DAoC or the flightpaths of Wow, but not as personal mounts.

And mounts do not have to mirror the characteristics of their "master-race", if they do, then what does horses signalize? And do men, and most likely the High Elves as well, give off the same signals?

[mongoose]

I don't want some stinkin pony anymore than you want somepink pig! (i got that from
some one elses idea cant rember who it was but still its great for elfllings:D )

lol, I know who that was because........it was me! :mrgreen:

"Would you like to see High Elves riding around on sturdy overgrown pigs? :shock: That image dosent sit every well does it? Thats because it dosent match the character of a HE just as a pony dosent match a Dwarf :wink:"

http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/showpost.php?p=232642&postcount=136

[arthurfoxshot]

lol, I know who that was because........it was me! :mrgreen:

"Would you like to see High Elves riding around on sturdy overgrown pigs? :shock: That image dosent sit every well does it? Thats because it dosent match the character of a HE just as a pony dosent match a Dwarf :wink:"

http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/showpost.php?p=232642&postcount=136

With all the lfllings saying we should have some pony, i would love to see em
on a lil pig :p

[Doom]

Steam tank would make me happy but if not, any type of movment increase will do.

[Flegler]

I can't help but notice pony is left off the list. Here, have some ponies.
pony (http://www.raresteeds.com/FellPonyWebRing/MurthwaiteBlackbird.jpg)
pony (http://www.raresteeds.com/FellPonyWebRing/TebayMagic.jpg)
pony (http://www.fellponies.com/images/balmgraze2.jpg)
pony (http://ukponies.com/dales-pony01.jpeg)
pony (http://www.ipcc.ie/kerrybogpony.jpeg)
Thank you. At last somebody realises that there's nothing inherently undignified about a dwarf-sized horse.

Ponies really are the only option that makes sense. Exotic mounts like rhinoxes would be adding too much to established dwarf background while speed runes or steam tanks would be trivialising magic and technology, both relatively rare in the Warhammer setting. There are eight steam tanks in existence, for Sigmar's sake, and they all belong to the Empire.

Nowhere does it say that dwarfs are opposed to riding horses on principle. They just don't have any cavalry in their armies, as you'd expect of a people that live mostly underground and in the mountains. Just because they don't have a grand tradition of mounted warriors like humans do doesn't mean they mind sitting on a horse if they have to travel a long distance.

[Okri]

True, we could easily discard a number of the options as they are both unfitting and actually impossible to do without seriously damaging the Warhammer lore. Some can be scratched from the list because they're highly impractical to implement as a personal mount.
I disregard all votes given for the options; barrel/ cart pulled by an animal, chariot, mechanical mount and steam tank. The rest are all viable options to me, more or less.

[Snorri]

Why do all these pony fanatics keep overlooking the Mountain Donkey/Mule idea???

They make even more sense than ponies, as they are already used by the dwarfs as pack animals. Mules are short, stubborn, enduring, and are use to traveling over harsh/rocky terrain. And the dwarfs already have them at hand. :p

Other than that, I agree; Steam Tanks, Carts, Motorized Mounts, Rhinoxs, and little horse-drawn wagons - are all very silly ideas. ;)

[1337mojo]

Mule FTW!!!

[versuvius]

why do we want donkeys? we want rhinox, gyrocopters or steam tanks!! any mechanical ostriches and im bombing WAR HQ

[Okri]

We don't want Rhinoxes because they're far too big for us to ride and there's not too many of them around (Remember, having a creature as a mount means that more or less every person will get one). We don't want Gyrcopters because only a zaki like you would pilot it. We don't want Steam Tanks because there are only eight in existance, and they were made by men. Also, as Flegler said, having mechanical mounts is trivialising and simplifying such things to a too large degree.

[versuvius]

hmmm hows about gyrocopters for ppl like me....an isnt their mini rhinoxes? ne way i repeat NO MECHANICAL OSTRICHES! but if WAR announced a mechanical mount...what can it be without looking stupid

[Snorri]

Nothing.
No mechanical personal mount will look right for us.
No personal individual mechanical mounts.

No.

Just give us Mules - for reasons already stated twentygodzillion times.
Or just don't give us a mount at all.

No stupid carts, no personal gyrocopters, no steam buggys, no miniature Rhinoxs which don't even exists in the warhammer world, no mechanical creatures of any kind, no rocket powered walking boots, no jet packs, no steam tanks, no motorised go-carts, and no stupidity.

[versuvius]

i want a gyrocopter and maybe an offroader steam powered monsteer truck...ok maybe not the truck but i want a gyrocopter...wannazaki outa grudge bearer has one...he drinks the fuel alchohol lol

[zennon]

why do we want donkeys? we want rhinox, gyrocopters or steam tanks!! any mechanical ostriches and im bombing WAR HQ

why would anyone with a brain want a mechanical ostrich??

rhinox yes
gyrocopters yes
steam tanks yes
mules/donkeys maybe....

[Flegler]

Why do all these pony fanatics keep overlooking the Mountain Donkey/Mule idea???

Donkeys would be fine too, I just think horses make better steeds. Aren't they faster, or easier to keep your seat on or something? Certainly in the real world donkeys and mules are only really used for pack animals, but maybe it has more to do with tradition than anything else. Perhaps someone could breed a racing donkey.

I do think a dwarf on a donkey would look a bit ridiculous though. I guess this is how the rhinox-lovers feel about ponies.

[Warsaw]

I would think some type of boars. In the first versions of warhammer didnt dwarves ride boars/pigs?

[Krulltak]

I would think some type of boars. In the first versions of warhammer didnt dwarves ride boars/pigs?


not really. Orcs are the ones with the boars here, mister. Dwarfs never had mounts in Warhammer. Ever.

http://uk.games-workshop.com/orcsandgoblins/miniature-gallery/14/

[versuvius]

what about an underground steam pod for long range travel...like an underground tunnel and you get fired down it in a metal pod at high speed. STEAM POWERED!! or rune powered not fussed either way

[Snorri]

*Sighs*

Screw this.
I'm backing the overgrown badger idea. :p

[versuvius]

oh yeh...badger badger mushroom mushroom badger badger mushroom DWAAAAAAAAARF

not entirly accurate but you get the idea

[Woren]

I think giant spider would be a good dwarf mount. They both live underground and they are not typical mamal type mounts you see from the larger races.

[miber]

Cave bears all the way.

[Ulli]

I'd go for some kind of warhammerized mountain sheep.

I.e. An overly muscular ram with inconcievably large horns, a sour demeanour and an unerring tendency to headbutt things.

[versuvius]

and always steps on your foot at inconvinient times

[GreyWarlord]

I think giant spider would be a good dwarf mount. They both live underground and they are not typical mamal type mounts you see from the larger races.

Giant spiders are for forest goblins. Dwarfs on foot ftw.

[Rdin]

*Sighs*

Screw this.
I'm backing the overgrown badger idea. :p



[img=http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/8079/dwarfwz2.th.jpg] (http://img262.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dwarfwz2.jpg)

I would rather walk:)

[Snorri]

I want something sensible, or I too would prefer to walk. :p

Hey guys! Look! Its Miber!

[versuvius]

I HAVE IT!!!!!!!! ok its a beer powered car/tank...ok you put in everything and get some catalyst for the brewing, the fermentation will make gas and power the pistons and we can also drink the waste product...BEER!!

[Nezumiiro Kitsune]

I'm back! and some how woke up outside in teh snow? I'm buggered if I know what happened, but if I catch that elf coward git....

Beer Powered... Interesting... Beer... Mmm... Ahh... So it runs on my ale?... Then I get ta drink mi fuel? Aye I think I got it, Ork Ale gives you 1 hell of a hangover, tastes like crap though, and still not Bugmans quality. We could use it as cheap fuel, aye that'd work.

[versuvius]

and i propose to all dwarfs the phrase BEEEEEEEER!

[Smachaz]

Low flying Gyrocopters?

-Dwarfs already have those
-They could hover over water like Magus
-You can't fight in a Gyrocopter (well, ...with a hammer or an axe that is..)
-Cool factor.

Edit: Now that i think of it. Even if Paul said no mounted combat for Dwarfs, maybe it there ''mount'' is a Gyrocopter, Engineers could be the Mounted-combatants

[Blitz]

Could always fly-by and drop some explosive on yer foes....

I'm fer feet bein' my mount.

[mongoose]

Low flying Gyrocopters?

-Dwarfs already have those
-They could hover over water like Magus
-You can't fight in a Gyrocopter (well, ...with a hammer or an axe that is..)
-Cool factor.

Edit: Now that i think of it. Even if Paul said no mounted combat for Dwarfs, maybe it there ''mount'' is a Gyrocopter, Engineers could be the Mounted-combatants

Sorry, you will never get me inta one o them contraptions! It just aint normal to be flyin around all willy nilly I tell ya! Dwarfs were mant to keep their feet firmly planted on the ground!

<in a low whisper> And I hear tell that those engineer types are just not right in the head anyway:mrgreen:

[Gorrr]

The only dwarf mounts are pikes.
waugh!?

[Smachaz]

waugh!?

*Shakes head in disappointment*
______
http://uk.games-workshop.com/orcsandgoblins/miniature-gallery/images/black_orc_cmd.gif

Did you mean like this? Although it is a good idea, the living stunties will need means of fast travel also. :p

[Shapechanger]

I voted for a wagon or cart being pulled by an animal - a pony would be fine.

It should look something like this (http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i160/Violeter/lol.jpg).

That way, when the Dwarfs come rolling up so very slowly in their pony-pulled cart, they'll all be really really angry from moving so slowly!

And I'll have a great and tremendous laugh as I go riding past swiping their heads off for looking so damned ridiculous in that cart!

[Rik Riorik]

A subdued Goblin. And with that said you get out of this thread right now Shapechanger!

*growl*

[Baldaran]

Steamcycle!!


Id call mine Hairy Davidson...



and the elves should have this: elven mount choice (http://www.amazon.com/Barbie-Radio-Control-Convertible-Corvette/dp/B00005QDT7)


^
Dwarf Humor..

[Thargan]

None of the above.

I know the humans of Kiev(sp?) use bears as mounts, but I also think that would be the most badass mount a Dwarf could have if they have to have one. You don't want to go charging in to battle with a Dwarf on a Grizzly, now do you?

Which reminds me of this picture.....(Includes Vulgarity)

http://img489.imageshack.us/img489/9422/1155558284500zr5.jpg

[mongoose]

I voted for a wagon or cart being pulled by an animal - a pony would be fine.

It should look something like this (http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i160/Violeter/lol.jpg).

That way, when the Dwarfs come rolling up so very slowly in their pony-pulled cart, they'll all be really really angry from moving so slowly!

And I'll have a great and tremendous laugh as I go riding past swiping their heads off for looking so damned ridiculous in that cart!

I cant believe it took you so long to post your now infamous link. What was the hold up? :rolleyes:

[Black Hammer]

I was just playing the Lord of The Rings Online beta (definitely not buying it) and they had these little oxen called Aurochs in them. Since boars are ork mounts, smallish snow oxen would fit the dwarf style. The only problem is that oxen have that big hump, making them awkward mounts in combat...

[Arbite]

Gyrocopters maybe? Other than that, none of those options really fits in to what they've done with dwarves in the tabletop game besides the "no mount" option.

[Okri]

I was just playing the Lord of The Rings Online beta (definitely not buying it) and they had these little oxen called Aurochs in them. Since boars are ork mounts, smallish snow oxen would fit the dwarf style. The only problem is that oxen have that big hump, making them awkward mounts in combat...

Which wouldn't matter since dwarves don't do mounted combat.

[Tysar]

I agree that bears would be cool (although seriously doubt that they would be chosen for the game). GW could come up with something, perhaps some longbeard rangers could change their minds about animals being in contact with them more often, and could tame bears as mounts seeing that they are more sure-footed and steadier than other beasts, and as fierce and stubborn as dwarfs themselves... You know, some BS like that :D It could also act as a -slap to Nival who pretty much ripped off Warhammer (visually, at least) in HoMM 5... (their dwarven bear riders: http://www.celestialheavens.com/homm5/images/artwork/Fortress/HeroesV_HF_Dwarves_03_Bear%20Rider.jpg ; http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/49255795/?qo=2&qh=special%3Add)
Also, the TT dwarfs wouldn't suffer from a cavalry choice :D

[luy22]

Said it before, will say it ONCE more...

http://store.us.games-workshop.com/storefront/store.us?do=List_Models&code=304509&orignav=300811&ParentID=254056&GameNav=300808

'Nuff said ppl...

[Arin]

A dwarf on a wolf would be awesome =]

[Black Hammer]

A dwarf on a wolf would be awesome =]

Refute! Refute! Decidedly not awesome.

[Pytho]

Slayers should be Dwarf mounts seeing as it would satisfy everyones need to have a Slayer in the game.

[versuvius]

not a wolf alive could handle the weight of a dwarf over 15 miles

[tiurke]

Muskox! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muskox)

I who’d love to see a dwarf riding a Muskox.

[versuvius]

if i ever mount one of those...snorri or krulltrak kill me...ur the only 2 id trust to do it right

[tiurke]

I just think they are similar whit the dwarfs:

Muscular
Strong
Slow
Hairy!!
Live in mountains/ snow
Short
Old
Heavy
Defensive


Just think about it….

[miber]

I just think they are similar whit the dwarfs:Great reasons for bears if you ask me! And some bears even live in caves, so they'd probably get along better with the underground nature of Dwarfs.

[versuvius]

you callin me slow? i aughta take an organ gun to yer head

[tiurke]

Great reasons for bears if you ask me! And some bears even live in caves, so they'd probably get along better with the underground nature of Dwarfs.

Bears live almost alone. I can’t imagine lots of dwarfs on an animal that doesn’t live in a bunch, if u know what I mean.
I dont think of bears as "mounts", i just don't.

[Black Hammer]

Muskoxen are good, if scaled to the right size.

[lonekeeper]

I think I saw a video saying there will be no mount for the dwarf because of the warhammer ip...

[miber]

I think I saw a video saying there will be no mount for the dwarf because of the warhammer ip...Paul Barnett said there would be Dwarf mounts in this interview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5-UwOYyL24&mode=related&search=):The answer is 'mounts will be in' - hooray! Mounts will be fantastic, they'll be charactful, they'll be colorful. It'll be the right mount, for the right career, for the right race. We're not going to put Orcs on Elven ponies - it's not going to happen.

Will Dwarfs get something to ride? The plan is, yes, at the moment. What will it be? I don't know. Actually, that's one of the things where Mark (Mark Jacobs) is working that out with Games Workshop. We want an answer, but we want an answer that's right and proper for the IP. That we can do technically within the game. That feels like it's right for what the players want. The only thing I can tell you, is whatever it is we come to the solution with on Dwarfs - they will not be allowed to fight while they're mounted.

[versuvius]

OK! that video clearly says gyros will be in! OH GODS THANG GRUNGNI AND GRIMNIR!

[Snorri]

Verv how many times do I have tot ell you this? :p

Did you ever play WoW?
Gyrcopters will be the dwarfen form of "flight paths" (albeit slightly different to WoW, i.e. we don;t have to discover the place we want to fly to first..)

We have known this for some time; Gyroptoers are in, but they are not our personal mounts. They just fly between fixed points.

I.e. from the Karaz-a-Karak fligh point to the skull pass flight point.

We also have an underground steam train which links all of the dwarfen cities. and we can use to ride between each hold.

We do not know what our actual mounts are yet, but dear god I hope they are mules; and if not that; Mountain Ponies.

Anyone asking for heavily armored cannon-sprouted warmachines with an elephant attached; should be shaved, flayed, and hacked into tiny little pieces IMO. :p

[versuvius]

oooooh right....i like the one where he was tellin em that cannons wasnt stealth...its still a cannon even with a bush on its still a cannon

[Rdin]

Ibex would be cool, but they so darn small...

[Pseudoman]

Fear the Mountain goat cavalry.

[arthurfoxshot]

I would't mind a mule for dwarf mount and I know now that it would be best with the lore but I don't think they look study enough;) A shorter and hairy mountain pony would look cool I guess, even tho its not Snorri's first choice:p Maybe like a mini shire horse since they got lots of hair round there hoves etc and lots of muscles, and stick a few barrels of ale around the sides:D My first choice has got to be a cave bear but nope it does't fit with lore so we can't have it I guess. Come on snorri ya got to admit a big black cave bear would look cool:cool:

[Snorri]

I do admit, it; a bear was originally my top choice. Until I came to terms with how silly, out of place, and wrong it would be for dwarfs. Especially as it has been stated we are getting non-combat mounts... if I had a bear I'd expect it to lash out.
But I do admit it would look cool. :p

And if anything, Mules look sturdier than mountain ponies. And IMO they look cooler too. :D Darker, stronger, a glint of stubborness in their eyes, and bulked up in the right places. :p

But if mountain ponies are chosen - I will certainly not complain.


Its if we get anything coated in armour, weapons, mechanical bits, or towed along in a cart - then 'll rant until my tankard runs dry and my beard grows white.

[Vimes]

To be honest, I can´t see Warhammer Dwarfs riding on anything at all.

My vote would have been on "Marching Rune" or something along the lines, because that is the thing with most dwarvish feeling for me.

[Snorri]

I agree with you whole heartedly Vim; dwarfs shouldn't have mounts - they should walk!!! :(

But a marching rune would be incredibly unrealistic - as I personally don't want my dwarf running at the speed of a horse whenever he fancies. Dwarfs are renowned for their legendary stamina which allows them to march for weeks without rest - but they do not outrun horse.
I wouldn't have minded no mount at all though, meaning we'd have to make use of things like the Gyrocopters, Steam Trains, and Airships (if we have airships that is, lorewise I doubt it.)

But Mythic disagree, and I suppose they have reasons for it.
They'll be giving us a mount.

I hope they use their brains and give us mules - as they are creatures which reflect the dwarfen personality (strong, sturdy, enduring, stubborn as hell) and are specially adapted to traveling the rocky mountain territory, and the dwarfs already use them as pack animals.

Failing that, I'll settle for mountain ponies.

What I DO NOT want to see is a mechanical mount, or a horse+cart style mount. Or any unrealistic or combat-orientated animals.

Even if I opt to walk regardless, I still have to see by fellow dwarfs riding around on their mounts - so they better be sensible.

[Duerghaul]

One of the things i liked most about WoW's Dwarves was their mount. I really thought the Ram was the most appropriate beast of burden for Dwarves, as it compliments their basic essence. Dwarves are tough and sturdy, with alot of defensive abilities. Rams are tough and sturdy, and have horns on their head for defense and butting. A couple other fantasy themes have Dwarves on rams, so i don't think it would be an infringement on WoW or look like theyre stealing their ideas.

My vote is for RAMS.

[Black Hammer]

Rams are the right shape. I would go with that just with a better model than WoW's.

[Oasis]

If we all just vote "no mount" then maybe Mythic won't do it.

I mean, it's always worth the try.;)
lol yea they get to run very very fast but saw a vid..forgot where but saw a dwarf on a chicken mount..sorta like the gnome mounts in wow on a loading screen or something

[Nurglewilldestroyyou]

Dwarves do not ride mounts...they hate mounts...they hate magic...they hate elves. The only things dwarves ride are gyrocopters or mechanical marvels of their engineering prowess.

[Black Hammer]

Dwarves do not ride mounts...they hate mounts...they hate magic...they hate elves. The only things dwarves ride are gyrocopters or mechanical marvels of their engineering prowess.



Don't forget lightning. They also ride the lightning.

[versuvius]

and beer carts...i need beer...BEER!

anyways but i dont think a beer cart would be appropriate, no matter how cool they looked on BFME2

[Rdin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rbNGcQeD7w

hmm? hmm?

[versuvius]

if i ever get seen doing that i give the nearest dwarf permission to WAX every hair off my body...

[Krulltak]

if i ever get seen doing that i give the nearest dwarf permission to WAX every hair off my body...

Don't worry, dwarfs will be doing that alot, but they will be inside the barrel, and the orcs will have painfully shaved their beards off with a rusty choppa.

[versuvius]

yes...and you will lose your knees and heads

[Sjofn]

Rams are the right shape. I would go with that just with a better model than WoW's.


I hope you only mean the epic rams there. The regular rams are so cute. The epic rams ... are not.

[versuvius]

HOW in hells name are rams supposed to be cute???

[Snorri]

I hated the rams in WoW and felt silly riding atop one. :p

Dwarfs are not suppose to be cute.
We are dirty, menacing, and downright gritty. We are stubborn, strong, enduring, and as ugly as we are deadly. We are angry drinkers and furious fighters, unbreakable and determined to the core. We are often underestimated by larger enemies, yet we show them the error of their judgment once we remove all their limbs after a bloody flurry of blows. We do not ride about on pansy cute creatures. We want something tough to match our nature.

:p ;)

[Sjofn]

Oh whatever. Dwarves ARE cute. <3

[Snorri]

Oh alright, they are.
They're so furry and cuddly.

:p ;)

[Gorrr]

I hated the rams in WoW and felt silly riding atop one. :p

Dwarfs are not suppose to be cute.
We are dirty, menacing, and downright gritty. We are stubborn, strong, enduring, and as ugly as we are deadly. We are angry drinkers and furious fighters, unbreakable and determined to the core. We are often underestimated by larger enemies, yet we show them the error of their judgment once we remove all their limbs after a bloody flurry of blows. We do not ride about on pansy cute creatures. We want something tough to match our nature.

:p ;)
hmm i didnt find rams from wow "cute" ,expecially epic ones.They looked ok and if WAR would have ram mounts for dwarves,they would only need more armor and grim looking stuff.

[Mortar]

I liked the epic rams from WarCraft - they seemed fitting to the Ironforge Dwarves. I wouldn't mind seeing another variation of the ram in Warhammer, as long as it looks menacing and sturdy. Otherwise, a mule is probably the next best choice.

[Black Hammer]

I hope you only mean the epic rams there. The regular rams are so cute. The epic rams ... are not.

They just looked kind of slim for Dwarfs, they need to be broader and tough looking. This is why Boars are really the best Dwarf mount, but it doesn't work in the Warhammer world.

I'd actually somehow never seen an epic ram until I just looked it up... they look perfect for Dwarfs.

[Julius]

They just looked kind of slim for Dwarfs, they need to be broader and tough looking. This is why Boars are really the best Dwarf mount, but it doesn't work in the Warhammer world.

I'd actually somehow never seen an epic ram until I just looked it up... they look perfect for Dwarfs.

Still a bit too thin.

[versuvius]

anything that doesnt resemble one of the big redwood trees with a spike on the front is too small

[Mortar]

Still a bit too thin.

Then they should bulk them up a bit - it's not like we're asking for exact models stripped from WarCraft. While I prefer the ram concept, it would probably detract from their whole "we're not a carbon copy of WoW" argument. A fat mule would probably be best, or rather, have the mule slightly too small for the dwarf so he looks awkward mounted. Might add a comical twist to a mounted dwarf.

[Rurik]

Ive always liked the idea of dwarves on boars ... I know that is an Orc thing in Warhammer but I just think boars are dwarvish *shrug*

id have to say mountain goat if I had to choose.

[Black Hammer]

Ive always liked the idea of dwarves on boars ... I know that is an Orc thing in Warhammer but I just think boars are dwarvish *shrug*

id have to say mountain goat if I had to choose.

Agreed!

As for comical mule mounts... I don't want to see Dwarfs become a joke race. Look what happened to Squats. Greenskins provide all the comic relief necessary just by being weird, we don't need to have armies of Sancho Panzas riding around on the Dwarf side.

[Eadhurtz]

well the only kinda mount for dwarf's as i recall mainly for the Kings etc was Shields carried by 2 dwarves, replace those dwarves for captured gobbos maybe??? lol ;) Pic (http://uk.games-workshop.com/dwarfs/special-characters/images/king-ranulfsson.jpg)

Bet GW are racking thier brains about this quite a tough thing to come up with but ive every faith it will be something that will make sense.

Steampowered scooter/sled sounds cool or maybe a lizard/croc type (not raptor/coldone lookalikes eigher) Komodo Pic (http://www.kutz.com/komodo/kmd_drag.htm)

tbh who noes, will be really interesting to see what GW comes up with. :-P

[versuvius]

oh yehs...im sure we would all appreciate dwarfs on bloody mopeds

[Black Hammer]

Hahahaha, a war scooter. Hilarious.

[Unstoppable]

Steam tank all the way baby woo!

[Eadhurtz]

oh yehs...im sure we would all appreciate dwarfs on bloody mopeds

I was thinking the scateboard with stearing scooter not moped
Electric Scooter (http://www.sz-wholesale.com/uploadFiles/Electric%20Scooter%20WYES-009_557.jpg)
or even something simular to This (http://mayhem-chaos.net/photoblog/images/scooter.jpg)

[Arijharn]

what possesed WoW to make a mechanical ostrich...i mean...its a bird...whats that got to do with dwarfs

But, the mechanical ostrich is for the gnomes, not the dwarf.

[versuvius]

really? the pic i saw waaaaaaaaaaaay back near the beggining on thi subject their was a dwarf on one

[Black Hammer]

really? the pic i saw waaaaaaaaaaaay back near the beggining on thi subject their was a dwarf on one

I think he means the mechanical mounts in WoW, not WAR.

[versuvius]

isnt that what i said? oh sorry if i caused any confusion

[Steel*Faith]

No orcling, someone is using their brain. ;) :p

No he's a Dwarf so he's hot headed and grumpy when not drinking, and obviously has a grudge to bear with lots of people lol.

[versuvius]

you know...when a dwarf is truly sober they almost wnt to commit suicide... heres my scenario

*dwarf meeting hall*
Dwarf lord: ok to the business of the orcs, AYE! to attack and AYE! for hiding in the hold

Dwarf 1,2,3: AYE!!

Dwarf 3,4,5: AYE!

Dwarf lord: hmmm it seems we are one vote short, wheres versuvius?
*all dwarfs look to end of the table and see a slumped of dwarf, hardly breathing. they all rush over*

Dwarf 1: whats wrong with him? is he dead? CALL A DOCTOR!
*versuvius groans*
Dwarf 3: SCREAM!!
Dwarf 5: my gods! call a doctor hes sober!
Dwarf lord: NO wait, call a bartender! and 500cc of bugmans XXXXXXX, a needle and a funnel stat!!

the point is a sober dwarf is an ill dwarf and only dwarfs can tell the difference between AYE! and AYE!

[Snorri]

*Looks at above post*

*Rubs his eyes*

... Yes.

[versuvius]

well anyway, there was a point to that, but i couldnt remeber it by the end

[dutch_gamer]

http://sephice.net/dl/enl/rpc-coverage-eng.html

Almost at the bottom of the page

In the following question period it was confirmed that there will be loading screens when entering the next zone, but that therefore these zones will be really huge (30 minutes to cross them without a mount).
Each race has a different type of mount as for example Orcs will ride on wild pigs, Dwarves will use something mechanical and the Magus modifies his disc.

I honestly hope that GoA is mistaken. Please NO mechanical mount, Mythic. You will do a disservice to a lot of Dwarf fans this way. Not every single Dwarf in the Dwarven world likes mechanical devices. Not every Dwarf is an Engineer.

/off topic. I also find it hard to believe a zone is that big that takes one 30 minutes to walk across. Even if they mean two same Tier zones, then I still think this is a huge exaggeration.

Note: I have interviewed GoA before and I noticed that they don't really know a whole lot about the game. Most of the time know the same things as we do on the forums. So right now, I am not buying it. But I do am fearful that they may give us mechanical mounts. :mad:

[LastHeretic]

mmm, dont think a mountain goat would really work : \

personally i like the idea of a bear though i suppose that is overly kislevite, it seems to suit a dwarf really well
believe i saw a piece of artwork somewhere with a picture of a dwarf on a bear firing a pistol, caption was along the lines of "dwarf on a bear, yeah you're screwed!"

high level engineers should be able to pilot a gyrocopter, NOT spontaneously create one as if by magic, but acquire one from a major city.

T

[versuvius]

i put that idea through but it was rejected as still being over powered...even with fuel charges and air tax

[mouldylock]

hey what about choppas, as in motorbikes?
http://www.hells-angels.com/pictures/hells_angels%20(40).jpg

http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.fateye.com/bw6.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.fateye.com/silver.htm&h=432&w=280&sz=45&hl=en&start=8&tbnid=t3yBuc-wznw0CM:&tbnh=126&tbnw=82&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dbeard%2Bbike%26gbv%3D2%26svnum%3D10%2 6hl%3Den

http://www.shamwarie.nl/images/images/hffbm.jpg

I mean seriously they even look like dwarfs
fat-check
beardy-check
seriously I'm actually serious I think it's the best option, they're mechanical, low to the ground:wink:, sturdy, cool:cool:
imagine a rune engraved choppa with golden dwarf symbols allover- sounds pretty awsome to me
especially if they made a harsh low rumbling sound, that's be awsome

[Ruriktheoneeye]

If we get motorbikes GW may well have a fit! That part of the reason the Squats disappeared.

[versuvius]

maybe steam or beer powered motor bikes?

[dutch_gamer]

From war-rvr interview which can be found in the General Discussion(Adam Gershowitz, Lead Design Careers/Combat, formely Lead Character Artist):

Q. It was revealed at the Paris GamesDay that Gyrocopters might be a method of transport for the Dwarfs, will these be player controlled or an automated method of fast transport?
A. The final Mount selection, and how Mounts are working, we're not done with yet. I would generally say, it's probably a better bet to say that Gyrocopters won't be player controlled in most scenarios, but once again, Mounts aren't done yet so it's not something that I can go Yes or No.

So GoA was indeed wrong. It seems that Mythic didn't even make a decision yet. And yet GoA's response made people think they were absolutely certain.

/offtopic

One thing this does tell me, is that I doubt there will be any mounted combat for the other races. They aren't even done with the normal mounts. When you want to add mounted combat, you have got to add it right away, not later. Mounted combat should be approached in the same way as ranged or melee combat, in my opinion. Mounted combat doesn't work as an afterthought.

[Maxmus]

If dwarfs will get a mount i like to see Bears.
as i remember good then on the tabletop game it was the same dwarfs had something whit bears.

[versuvius]

i refuse to ride a bear...i want a gyrocoptr

[Duality]

id of thought either a Pony, A Bear, Or a Gyrocopter

[Maxmus]

i refuse to ride a bear...i want a gyrocoptr

Ye but thats strange if ur fighting whit a cyrocoptr fighting a horse or a wolf
I mean Gyrocoptr can fly

[versuvius]

and have cannons...grnade laungers and fully automatic guns...wolf or gyro? wolf or gyro? you choose

[Thargan]

Bear mounts make me think of this picture....

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/9186/1154409567926vi4.jpg

[Skalding]

I don't know about everyone else but I'm psyched to be riding around on a giant bear, hopefully it'll eat stuff too. Mostly Goblins, though I wouldn't object to it devouring Halflings. We won't be able to fight on them, since Dwarfs would never fight from...bear-back? But still, Giant Bears for a mount? Awesome.

[Laser]

Dwarfs on mules just to get from one place to the other on a cart sounds good enough for me

[Snorri]

Bears definitely sound awesome, and would look immense.
Lore-wise though, I''m still with the mule. ;)
With no damn cart.

Verv, you'll be able to fly around on a gyrocopter, you just won't get your own personal player-controlled one. Not only would it be considerably un-dwarfish to give all dwarfs personal gyrocopters, but quite frankly I think the world is a safer place without you flying around in a mechanical anything. :p

[versuvius]

that sent me into hysterics....laughter

[The Grudgebearer]

No mount for me, the enemy will come to me!;)

[Medivek]

You should be able to vote again after a certain amount of staring at the same poll at the top of the Dwarf forums for weeks on end. It just seems to rotate, mule, bear, cart, mule, bear, cart. Must be something like getting a glimpse of the chaos the zaki must be going through on a daily basis, circles circles.

I'm content to wait until I find out what Mythic has planned and then rant/rave/complain all over the place at the poor choice ;) Cheers.

[Smashor]

Wheres the option ''a female Dwarf'' giddy'up lassy!

.. i think they should have access to all of those mounts being able to buy them from different regions of dwarven territory.

[versuvius]

any more comments like that and you will end up with an axe in your head...or my gyrocopter on your back

[Anders8989]

I voted no mount, as Dwarfs don't have mounted units in the TT,
but what would be cool is it dwarfs have loads of public transport... ot maybe some thing on the lines of a pack mule to ride on... or a yak... that acts kinda like one big bag or something... i dunno.... Travel mount yes... but no mounted combat

[Medivek]

Aye Anders, neither Dwarfs nor Greenscums will get mounted combat. They've already established that. The only classes known to date that have the 'mounted combat' feature are the KotBS and Chosen classes (for reference see Paul Barnett's Chosen rant). So at very least mounted combat shouldn't play that large a role in the Greenscum/Dwarf pairing.

[versuvius]

i have said it wence and ill say it agen...GYROCOPTER!

[Anders8989]

Well we can't all be flying around in lil copters... or else the skys of the old world will become over populated :p... It would make sense for use to have some kind of mount... something yaky... not a mule... but yeah nothing noble like a horse... something more utilitarian, oly there to get us from point A (Ekrund) to point B (Eight Peaks)... you see what i mean dwarfs?

[Okrot]

If they get a mount they'll just be done for drunk driving all the time. It's for the best that they dont have one.

[Bowdin]

Riding an animal just does not make sense to me as a former TT player.

That leaves mechanical or nothing. A steam tank or gyrocopter would be interesting for the more techno dwarf and means we can get around the place quicker, but the purist is going to go for nothing at all.

I am torn between tank/copter or nothing on that basis. As a computer game player I would like the former, as a dwarf fan for years the latter.

[Snorri]

If it is between mechanical mounts or nothing...

Then by Grungni it should be nothing.

Hopefully it won't come to such a lame choice however (as it has been stated we are getting mounts), and we'll get mules, or something else suitable. :p

Or something unsuitable but cool (bears) :lol:

[Okri]

Riding an animal just does not make sense to me as a former TT player.

That leaves mechanical or nothing. A steam tank or gyrocopter would be interesting for the more techno dwarf and means we can get around the place quicker, but the purist is going to go for nothing at all.

I am torn between tank/copter or nothing on that basis. As a computer game player I would like the former, as a dwarf fan for years the latter.

There's a difference between riding a mount and fighting on a mount. You wouldn't see a dwarfs riding in TT games, because dwarfs don't ride on the battle field. However, they do use mules as pack animals, and as such it is not unlikely that they might ride one as well.

And I shiver at the mere thought of having the entire dwarf population riding around on their own little (or even worse, big) tank/copter. Wih CD it would lead to room issues, and if the tanks/copters were made smaller as to nullify any such problems, then they would look silly and would not be realisticly portrayed, since they are quite bulky constructions, both of them.

[inquisitor17]

Aye Anders, neither Dwarfs nor Greenscums will get mounted combat. They've already established that. The only classes known to date that have the 'mounted combat' feature are the KotBS and Chosen classes (for reference see Paul Barnett's Chosen rant). So at very least mounted combat shouldn't play that large a role in the Greenscum/Dwarf pairing.

the dwarfs dont use mounts on battlefield but they should give orcs mounted combat after all theyve got wolf riders and boar boyz=P

[Krulltak]

the dwarfs dont use mounts on battlefield but they should give orcs mounted combat after all theyve got wolf riders and boar boyz=P


That has nothing to do with it. Mounted combat is not an all too common mechanic in most modern MMOs.

[Stephen]

I trust my own two feet more than some wild beasty or a mechanical contraption.

[versuvius]

ah yehs a scared little shortbeard. gyrocopter all the way! possibly a tank

[Stephen]

I'll be laughing last, lad, when that 'copter o' yours is a smoking wreck on the mountain side.

[versuvius]

the day that happens is the day i fly sober!

[Wulfhelm der Rote]

This. (http://www.battlefield-berlin.de/shop/index.php?cat=WG97&product=MG12)
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[Snorri]

This. (http://www.battlefield-berlin.de/shop/index.php?cat=WG97&product=MG12)
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No.

And a true dwarf prefers his two feet firmly on the ground!!! ;-p

[Ravana]

Dwarves dont like mounts. They prefer to have their feet on the ground.

[rheinberger]

if there is to be a mount, a bear would be nice.

[farfignewton]

Crag boars would be the best mount for dwarves in my opinion, your thoughts?

[versuvius]

gyrocopter....

[Tysar]

Crag boars would be the best mount for dwarves in my opinion, your thoughts?

Boars are more of a greenskin (especially orc) mount. Besides, they're aggressive and kinda crazy when wounded - a dwarf would prefer a steadier mount (if he was forced to ride one, of course).

[versuvius]

im sure a steam tank wont go berserk at the first scratch

[Anders8989]

I still say mule... it's nothing fancy... sturdy stuborn and tuff (in my good orc) which is all good for dwarfs.... and it fits the lore as Snorri, i think, has pointed out many a time

[Tysar]

im sure a steam tank wont go berserk at the first scratch

Steam tanks and gyrocopters shouldn't even be on the list. Gyrocopters are rare machines used only by "lunatics" from the Engineers guild - a "sane" dwarf wouldn't even think of steering one of them. Besides, seeing anyone else than an engineer inside of a gyrocopter would be stupid. Oh, and they FLY!

Steam Tanks are not even a dwarf invention, and dwarfs don't use it - that's first of all. Second, even IF they used Steam Tanks, a crew is needed for running them, and also it only be an appropriate choice for engineers. They're big and slow. There's only eight of them left in the Empire (from the twelve originally built) and the're the most precious weapons of the College of Engineering. It's the most unrealistic mount choice for dwarfs.

I agree that it should be mules or bulky mountain goats, if anything.

[versuvius]

you said lunatic right? well, im the biggest lunatic in this forum, maybe mad caddie is worse and on madcaps...but that isnt the point!

[Odro]

i'm hoping for something like a bear or a mini rhinox which would be awesome, but it probably wouldn't work. :mad:

[Anders8989]

Maybe a kind of yakish ocish thing woiuld be cool too... but yeaj we will see

[versuvius]

the deadly battle cow! with mounted rotar blades and an engine! gyrocowpter!

[Anders8989]

So all in all... a flying cow? why do i like that? :p

[Okri]

So all in all... a flying cow? why do i like that? :p

Because you're daft.

Anyhoo, I have stumbled upon a little something, make of it what you will. http://us.games-workshop.com/games/warhammer/dwarfs/painting/miners/1.htm

[Zeetchmen]

A steam powered motocycle or something like that would be cool :dwarf:

[Hatemonger]

The image of a cloaked-dwarf with a large rifle riding atop a bear is just awesome to me.

[Darguth]

I'm hoping for something practical, like a donkey, mule, or pony. There is obviously reasons why these would be around in the mines and what have you so it wouldn't be a huge stretch. Dwarves riding huge mountain goats/rams is too WOW IMO, even though I do like them, and the monstrous bear just seems too unfluffy. I hope we get a simply and dependable mini-horse of some kind.

[Hatemonger]

WoW also had humans riding horses, so I guess those are out too.

Wait a minute, it also had armor! Damn, my Chosen character is really going to look silly without all his plate...oh well, it was a bit WoWish. ;)

C'mon man, bears are awesome. Technically, any animal would be "un-fluffy" right? Bend to my will! Bend to it!

[Darguth]

WoW also had humans riding horses, so I guess those are out too.

Wait a minute, it also had armor! Damn, my Chosen character is really going to look silly without all his plate...oh well, it was a bit WoWish. ;)

C'mon man, bears are awesome. Technically, any animal would be "un-fluffy" right? Bend to my will! Bend to it!

No! No riding bears!

[Thargan]

I really don't care if the Kislevites ride bears, I want dwarfs to ride them. You know why?

This is why (http://img489.imageshack.us/img489/9422/1155558284500zr5.jpg)

[Okri]

I really don't care if the Kislevites ride bears, I want dwarfs to ride them. You know why?

This is why (http://img489.imageshack.us/img489/9422/1155558284500zr5.jpg)

That is the third or fourth time somebody posts that picture here. However, it still fails to convince me that the Dwarf mount should be bears.

[Rabbitman]

Just to make things clear, it isn't a problem if things are too WoW, but it sure as heck is if they aren't Warhammer enough. As Okri showed with the miniatures pics from the miner sprue, GW has already incorporated mountain ponies into the Dwarf lore. They pull carts in the mines and on the roads, so why shouldn't they be the mount choice?

In RP, my Dwarf has always driven a cart pulled by either ponies or an ox, depending on the size of the cart and how heavy the delivery load in the back. Of course, as Snorri has already mentioned on the first page, every single Dwarf driving a full sized cart in-game would look ridiculous.

As far as the bear cavalry argument goes... where to start?
Firstly, what part of "small, short legs, live underground" would suggest a bear would be a suitable ride?
In that picture, the riders are in no way Dwarfs, they are tall men with beards and submachineguns.
And as far as "it looks freakin' awesome" as a reason for implementation, that reasoning would have all races flying around on Dragons!
If ponies seem too bland, go with Oxen, but nothing else makes any sense.

[noname-.-"]

Just to make things clear, it isn't a problem if things are too WoW, but it sure as heck is if they aren't Warhammer enough. As Okri showed with the miniatures pics from the miner sprue, GW has already incorporated mountain ponies into the Dwarf lore. They pull carts in the mines and on the roads, so why shouldn't they be the mount choice?

In RP, my Dwarf has always driven a cart pulled by either ponies or an ox, depending on the size of the cart and how heavy the delivery load in the back. Of course, as Snorri has already mentioned on the first page, every single Dwarf driving a full sized cart in-game would look ridiculous.

As far as the bear cavalry argument goes... where to start?
Firstly, what part of "small, short legs, live underground" would suggest a bear would be a suitable ride?
In that picture, the riders are in no way Dwarfs, they are tall men with beards and submachineguns.
And as far as "it looks freakin' awesome" as a reason for implementation, that reasoning would have all races flying around on Dragons!
If ponies seem too bland, go with Oxen, but nothing else makes any sense.


well is you ask me this looks pretty good to be bears and some other animal in the background i don't know of :cool:
http://www.maps4heroes.com/heroes5/pictures/dwarves/dwarves.jpg

[Darguth]

Dwarves riding bears is amazing. Warhammer Dwarfs riding them is not.

[noname-.-"]

whats the difference? a dwarf is a dwarf. a person is a person.

[Barundin]

whats the difference? a dwarf is a dwarf. a person is a person.

There are Dwarves
http://www.michaelmartine.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/pipe-smoking-dwarf6.jpg who can ride whatever you want, cause they're just there for a laugh

and there are Dwarfs
http://uk.games-workshop.com/download/popup.htm?/dwarfs/artwork/images/art-15.jpg
who have got tonnes of lore removing the possibility of them having bear pens in their holds, or some other freakish explanation.
And while a cart may fit the Dwarves as for a mount, it doesn't stay in character with the Dwarfs. Ponies or mules are the only real available mounts IMO, at least bears and go-carts are out of the question.

[noname-.-"]

It don't have to be ponies or mules or whatever. The people makeing the game decided what the dwarf wants to ride even if you think thats not right. Just cause you "say" those are the only possiblities don't mean nothing. Lore means nothing cause thats just something to give you a overview of what the race/class/etc is...Just cause lore say one thing means nothing cause it is like a rule book.
Rules were made to be broken. So WAR can do really whatever they want to the game and you can complain, cry, tell them it's not in the lore, (whatever rocks your boat) or not play that race/buy the game.

[Okri]

No, Mythic can't do whatever they please, because if they do then Games Workshop will pull the plug on them. This is Warhammer, and Warhammer has a very defined lore. And dwarfs riding bears is not part of that. Quite the opposite, actually. Lore is important. It might not be to you, and frankly, that tells me everything I need to know about you.
There is more to this than just what looks "cool" or "awesome", it needs to be right. That excluded bears, carts, steam-cars or whatnot. A "normal" fourlegged mount is what it'll be. I wage my beard on it.

[noname-.-"]

Yes WAR can do whatever they want as long as GW approves. So they can really do whatever they want they just on a leash with it.
You know nothing of me.....last i check you weren't in my family so you know jack.
Still lore means nothing but a DMV book -.-" which no one "really" reads.
Wageing a beard on something is pretty poor man....get a job

[versuvius]

damn, i really hope garth gets rid of you next...

[noname-.-"]

Get rid of me all cause i see thigns a different way? And someone who doesn't respect the lore? You act like i said **** the bible. If this "Garth" person gets rid of me is only cause he/she see things the same way you do and doesn't like "Democracy"

[Reenala]

My bet is on Fred Flintstone's car.

[versuvius]

i want this game totally immersed in lore, but i do not like it when you throw abuse around because people disagree with you

[noname-.-"]

If i was to throw abuse around you "would know". And i could careless if people didn't like my idea cause none of you put food on my table. I work for mine.